Re: Stus-List Fresh water flush of engine
West Marine has a product called Salt Away. I used it but the ultimate cause of the problem was elsewhere so I cannot attest to its effcacy. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:43:37 -0500 To: aserrat...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fresh water flush of engine From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Salt can precipitate and plug coolant passages along with other gunk so a good chemical cleaning might be in order from time to time. You could probably get an idea how bad things are the next time you replace zincs or check the thermostat. I've heard of using vinegar. Prestone and Peak make products using sodium citrate (IIRC). Chemical cleaning is kinda risky but so is a blown head gasket or warped heat because of blocked coolant channels. Josh On Jan 19, 2015 8:59 PM, Al Serrato via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 1981 '34 with a Yanmar 3GMD engine with seawater cooling. A mechanic recommended that I install a t-valve for the raw water intake so I can flush the engine with fresh water occasionally. The engine appears to be in good condition and runs well in the two years I have owned the boat but I suspect that it is the original, making it 33 years old. While this makes sense, I'm wondering whether it's necessary at this point, given the age of the engine. in other words, is the damage already do Everything? Also, I'm wondering what the long term effect of seawater cooling is and what failures or problems result from the seawater over long periods of time. What is the likely useful life of a marine Yanmar diesel? Thanks for any advice or suggestions. Al SerratoFidelity1981 C C 34San Francisco Bay ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger
Ok, so I sent our local MP a message with a plea to put this process on hold, and a link to the article, but I don't hold out much hope. All he ever does is tell us how much we should appreciate what the Conservative party is doing for us. Hail the dear leader, etc. Steve Thomas Port Stanley, ON Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:41:01 -0800 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/why-is-ottawa-sinking-kingstons-marine-museum/article22515252/ Time to write your MP's. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
So far not so good though he has to give time to the Far 280. PHRF_Triple_ToD_2_ToT Division PHRF 1 1. GBR 007 Red Farr 280 Joe Woods 1 1 2.0 2. USA 41 Rhumb Punch Farr 30 John and Linda Edwards 4 2 6.0 3. USA 006 Decision Farr 280 Stephen Murray 2 4 6.0 4. USA 52939 Teamwork J 122 Robin Team 3 6 9.0 5. USA 005 D I E S E L Farr 280 Tate Russack 8 3 11.0 6. USA 001 Ragin' Farr 280 Bob Moran 6 5 11.0 7. USA 52902 El Ocaso J 122 Richard Wesslund 5 7 12.0 8. USA 30002 SALT CC 30 Oleksandr Ivanov 7 8 15.0 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
The Canadian Yachting magazine article on the photoalbum says more than 800 CC 30-1's were built - the second highest production number (more than 1,000 27's). Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 (#602) Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger
Rob, is there anything we can do as an organization? Obviously, a large portion of us are south of the border, but we want to see the museum be successful in this as well as our Canadian brethren; what would you recommend? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com Cc: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 7:46 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger Harry, Pdfs of all drawings can be obtained from the Museum Curator, Sandrena Raymond, at (cura...@marmuseum.ca). Let's hope that the drawings will still be available for many years to come. However, all Canadians should drop a note to their Conservative MPs, if they want to help. Rob On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Rob, Truly a critical period in the history of the museum...wish i could write a huge check! Fearing losing forever the opportunity to acquire the drawings for MIRAGE, i would like to initiate the process buy them. She is a 1985 CC Northeast 39 built in the Bruckman yard. Would you be able to point me in the right direction to get this rolling? Harry Hallgring Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Jim, Thanks for letting everyone know about this. As you might know, I serve on the Board of Trustees of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston, and I was the co-curator of the New Age of Sail exhibit at the Museum last year, one of the high points of which was inducting George Cuthbertson and Bruce Kirby into the Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame. Your attached piece by Mr. Granatstein is quite accurate. The Marine Museum is facing extinction if the Federal Government doesn't change its mind and hangs on to this historic piece of waterfront property, or if they don't work more closely with the City of Kingston to help them acquire the land. Otherwise it will be sold to private developers who will evict the Museum to build more condos. The Museum does not have enough money to finance a relocation, even if a suitable location was available. Yes, please write your MPs, especially the Conservative ones. This is very serious stuff. The Museum holds the entire CC Collection of drawings, as well as drawings from German and Milne, and many other prominent Canadian Naval Architects and shipbuilders. Rob Mazza On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/why-is-ottawa-sinking-kingstons-marine-museum/article22515252/ Time to write your MP's. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Teak stain?
On my new cabinets I've use Watco Danish Teak Oil ( which my friend who does wooden boat restoration says is the very best you can buy) and one or two coats on the new teak exactly matches the old factory. All the teak on my 38 mkII is oiled, not stained and varnished. I have been using Starbright teak oil from WM to maintain the teak on both the 25 and the 38, but wil use Watco in the future. Particularly since I found someone who sells quarts on EBay for half the local price and less than the Starbright. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 09:21, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: A lister (whose name I've lost) posted this hard-won formula a few years ago. I have used it several times, and its a perfect match to the factory finish (which is definitely a warm brown stain) on my 1980 30-1. Minwax Wood Finish (Stain) 1 part Provincial (211) 2 parts Golden Pecan (245) 2 parts Colonial Maple (223) Mix, apply, wipe off. Nate Sarah Jean Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:19 AM, David Blair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Jim I had the same question as one could see bits of stain onto the backs of some pieces. The old guy at the Lumberworld on Quadra took one look at it and reached for the Watco Danish Oil Cherry and it matched perfectly on the unstained back of an original piece. Likely they used that product to get more consistent color across the varying teak tones. I used it on my last little teak project – 1 or 2 coats – excellent results. Cheers From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:27 PM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Stus-List Teak stain? I have our companionway steps home for refinishing, and have just had to sand through a layer of what appears to be mahogany(ish) stain to get to the bare teak. Looking around the boat, it looks like it may have the stain on every teak surface. Anyone know anything about what particular stain they used? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List handicap for after market sprits
LMPHRF, our local handicap governing body, is making adjustments to the credit and penalties of handicaps for displacement hull boats that fly asyms, with and without the addition of sprits. I'm interested in what other regions are using for regs, amount of participation, and observations of performance changes. Thanks for your help. Pete ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Curtis, I agree with you. I race on a J-80 (and on my 30-1), and I cannot imagine that the new 30 will ever be a 'legend'. Our boats are excellent all-purpose boats - race, cruise, camp, sturdy, etc. The new 30 may have 100 takers in a sea of similar one-design sportboats. We have over 600 of us and I'll bet most of them are still on the water, 30 years after the last was built. Gary - Original Message - From: Curtis via CnC-List To: D.J. Platt ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design My old 30-1 is a legend, Not sure the new 30 will ever be that. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:34 PM, D.J. Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Can't argue with you there. Best I ever saw as 8.2 and that was in a lot more than 15 knots. -- From: Tim Goodyear timg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:00 PM To: David Platt w7...@yahoo.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design I bet your old Mark 1 doesn't do 12 knots in 15 knots of wind either. It was a blast to sail in NYC. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Jan 19, 2015, at 5:03 AM, David Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: saw it at the Toronto boat show yesterday. Doesn't look much like my old Mark 1. david On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 19:05 -0500, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List wrote: Funny. I posted this on the list in Oct 2013 when the first drawings of the Redline were released. SR was purchased by CC from Glen Henderson. A drawing of the first boat to be produced by the new Cc company was shown at the Newport Boat show. It's the Redline 41 similar to a King 40 by Summit yachts. You can see a drawing of it at http://summit-yachts.com/. The new line is described below Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This from Sailing World: the CC Redline 41 is deemed an updated King 40. BOTY rules require original tooling, so the 41,although well built, is excused. Based on the CC website I was lead to believe this was a new hull. Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Redline was a huge disappointment. They should take a chainsaw to the interior and the price tag. Joel On Sunday, January 18, 2015, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: CC 30 OD I just shipped 3 of these boats (hull nos: 05, 06 08) to USWatercraft's Japanese dealer. All 3 boats were pre sold. The dealer has 3 more hulls on order for delivery by the end of May 2015. There is also a lot of interest from Australia we well. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 CC 39 TM On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Looking forward to finally seeing one at the Seattle Boat Show next week. Hoping they'll have the a Redline 41 though I doubt it. Oh yeah...go Hawks! Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 20:15:30 -0500 From: Jerome Tauber jrtau...@aol.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC30 one design at Key West There will be a CC 30 one design competing in Key West Race Week starting tomorrow. Jerry cC 27 v JJ Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address:
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
I hate racing under a rating system. That being said, I'm not sure the skipper of the boat is terribly experienced, and he is racing against some very good teams. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Curtis, I agree with you. I race on a J-80 (and on my 30-1), and I cannot imagine that the new 30 will ever be a 'legend'. Our boats are excellent all-purpose boats - race, cruise, camp, sturdy, etc. The new 30 may have 100 takers in a sea of similar one-design sportboats. We have over 600 of us and I'll bet most of them are still on the water, 30 years after the last was built. Gary - Original Message - *From:* Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* D.J. Platt w7...@yahoo.ca ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 8:40 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design My old 30-1 is a legend, Not sure the new 30 will ever be that. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:34 PM, D.J. Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Can't argue with you there. Best I ever saw as 8.2 and that was in a lot more than 15 knots. -- From: Tim Goodyear timg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:00 PM To: David Platt w7...@yahoo.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design I bet your old Mark 1 doesn't do 12 knots in 15 knots of wind either. It was a blast to sail in NYC. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Jan 19, 2015, at 5:03 AM, David Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: saw it at the Toronto boat show yesterday. Doesn't look much like my old Mark 1. david On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 19:05 -0500, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List wrote: Funny. I posted this on the list in Oct 2013 when the first drawings of the Redline were released. SR was purchased by CC from Glen Henderson. A drawing of the first boat to be produced by the new Cc company was shown at the Newport Boat show. It's the Redline 41 similar to a King 40 by Summit yachts. You can see a drawing of it at http://summit-yachts.com/. The new line is described below Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This from Sailing World: the CC Redline 41 is deemed an updated King 40. BOTY rules require original tooling, so the 41,although well built, is excused. Based on the CC website I was lead to believe this was a new hull. Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Redline was a huge disappointment. They should take a chainsaw to the interior and the price tag. Joel On Sunday, January 18, 2015, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: CC 30 OD I just shipped 3 of these boats (hull nos: 05, 06 08) to USWatercraft's Japanese dealer. All 3 boats were pre sold. The dealer has 3 more hulls on order for delivery by the end of May 2015. There is also a lot of interest from Australia we well. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 CC 39 TM On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Looking forward to finally seeing one at the Seattle Boat Show next week. Hoping they'll have the a Redline 41 though I doubt it. Oh yeah...go Hawks! Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 20:15:30 -0500 From: Jerome Tauber jrtau...@aol.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC30 one design at Key West There will be a CC 30 one design competing in Key West Race Week starting tomorrow. Jerry cC 27 v JJ Sent from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 301%20541%208551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:
Stus-List handicap for after market sprits
Peat, This Email below is from my FH in NE but the implementation of the rule was delayed for public comment from our members. Essentially the new matrix adds three seconds to my old rating (IMX40) with the same configuration. There was an extensive study done that revealed asymmetrical spinnakers have been able to rotate further to Windward to allow deeper downwind angles then the initial rating system accounted for this?? Other members don't understand why boats that were built with Sprint are not penalized or adjusted the same as the boats with sprint added to them after-the-fact? Our PHRF region has two main groups one more competitive group in the Marblehead area and one less competitive group comprised of older vessels in Maine. The boats in MH are 70-80% AS in the race fleet. There are a group of older WELL maintained (Nelson Mrek,Frers, Taylor, and a newer 36.7 beny) that go SM and class 5/6 are SM. but all the big boats that are racing have purchase or converted their boat to AS. And of course all the new one design fleets are asymmetrical j70…. In Maine its SM except for the j/105’s and we have limited participation from a few AS Race boats Farr395, 1D35, Swan club 42… There are 2 conversion sprit boats participating in Maine next year IMX40 and a Farr43. I feel that asymmetrical is the way of the future easier to sail and more fun. go at least 20% or their pain to jibe. The new matrix proposed is provided in the table below: D/L=(dis (lbs.)/2240)/((0.01*WLL(ft))3) %=J*X for sprint length # are adjustment to your rating D/L bow 10% 20% 30% 2209 6 3 0 150-220 6 3 0 -3 100-150 3 0 -3 -6 1000 -3 -6 -9 Good morning Ryan Yes, I was there and a new rule has been passed for 2015. The heart of the issue, as you probably already know, is that for a number of years boats which changed from a symmetrical spin to an asym were given a credit of up to 9 sec/mile. PHRFNE is finally recognizing that the credit was a mistake in some cases. I don't know how it will impact your handicap because I don't have access to the 2014 cert for your boat (I can access only those boats that were in the GMORA fleet in 2014). But the rule is essentially based on the ratio of your displacement to LWL. Then depending on that ratio and the length of your sprit relative to the J measurement, you may see a reduced spinnaker credit of 3, 6 or 9 sec/mile. By the way, the displacement used will be based on an empty boat and that number may not be what is on the boat's 2014 certificate. PHRFNE will be publishing, shortly, an explanation of the new rule in layman's terms so that you can understand what has transpired. I recognize that the above has probably created more questions than answers but more will follow soon. Ryan Raber 207.841.7881 r...@fvprovidian.net ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Thanks folks. Over 800 is amazing especially given the time frame. The article was right on. The boat is beautiful, sails well, and hard to make one's time in light air. I've replaced the mast step twice; the second time only because I didn't do a good job the first time. And I've now found a soft spot on the starboard side which I think is from a leaking genoa track. Ron Wild Cheri ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Where is my old 30' CC now
I was wondering where my original CC 30' is now. I purchased her in 1975, brand new, from Havre de Grace Marina in Maryland. What a beauty, chocolate brown hull with a cameo deck. It had the Atomic 4 engine that ran like a dream. I had never sailed in my life when I purchased her and Arvid, the marina owner, took me out several times to show me what everything was for. Needless to say I have been hooked ever sense. Fusty, the name I gave her, was the 30 footer that CC had at the boat show that year in either Montreal or Toronto. She was totally decked out with all the goodies because of the show. I sailed her on the upper Chesapeake the first year and gradually started sailing with a larger head sail, she came with a 110, 135, and 170 headsail. Not knowing anything I started with the 110 and worked my way up to the 170. I loved the thought of racing and during the first winter on the hard I had spinnaker gear installed, BG hornet series gauges, and had a spinnaker and tallboy made at Concord Point Sail maker. Unfortunately, I can not find any info with the hull number and the marina has changed ownership and they have no record. Is there a way to find Fusty now? Tom Vincent 1979 CC 36 cb Chesapeake City, MD ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Where is my old 30' CC now
If you can provide the HIN, we can see if she is now documented, and perhaps her location. Bill Bina On 1/20/2015 12:22 PM, TOM VINCENT via CnC-List wrote: I was wondering where my original CC 30' is now. I purchased her in 1975, brand new, from Havre de Grace Marina in Maryland. What a beauty, chocolate brown hull with a cameo deck. It had the Atomic 4 engine that ran like a dream. I had never sailed in my life when I purchased her and Arvid, the marina owner, took me out several times to show me what everything was for. Needless to say I have been hooked ever sense. Fusty, the name I gave her, was the 30 footer that CC had at the boat show that year in either Montreal or Toronto. She was totally decked out with all the goodies because of the show. I sailed her on the upper Chesapeake the first year and gradually started sailing with a larger head sail, she came with a 110, 135, and 170 headsail. Not knowing anything I started with the 110 and worked my way up to the 170. I loved the thought of racing and during the first winter on the hard I had spinnaker gear installed, BG hornet series gauges, and had a spinnaker and tallboy made at Concord Point Sail maker. Unfortunately, I can not find any info with the hull number and the marina has changed ownership and they have no record. Is there a way to find Fusty now? Tom Vincent 1979 CC 36 cb Chesapeake City, MD ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Not saying the CC 30 will not do well - just that there are only enough racers with $$$ to support so many of these classes. Also note the Farr 30 seems to be embarrassing the newer Farr down at Key West. The CC seems to be rated much faster than it is on the water so far, which won't make for happy PHRF campers. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:30 AM To: Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Joe The Farr 30 has stuck around a long time and is still going strong. You never know how these things will play out. One thing is that they have to make a lot of them if they are to stick - like J70 _ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 12:02 PM To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design The new 30 looks just like all the other hot-racer-of-the-month boats. It may or may not succeed as a racing boat, but I can't see it ever accomplishing what the original CCs did. I can't see them having second and third and fourth lives being family daysailors, cruisers, live-aboards, ocean voyagers, beercan racers, etc. I hope they do well racing. They won't sell enough to non-racers to be viable. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:40 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Curtis, I agree with you. I race on a J-80 (and on my 30-1), and I cannot imagine that the new 30 will ever be a 'legend'. Our boats are excellent all-purpose boats - race, cruise, camp, sturdy, etc. The new 30 may have 100 takers in a sea of similar one-design sportboats. We have over 600 of us and I'll bet most of them are still on the water, 30 years after the last was built. Gary - Original Message - From: Curtis via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: D.J. Platt mailto:w7...@yahoo.ca ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design My old 30-1 is a legend, Not sure the new 30 will ever be that. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:34 PM, D.J. Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Can't argue with you there. Best I ever saw as 8.2 and that was in a lot more than 15 knots. -- From: Tim Goodyear timg...@gmail.com mailto:timg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:00 PM To: David Platt w7...@yahoo.ca mailto:w7...@yahoo.ca ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design I bet your old Mark 1 doesn't do 12 knots in 15 knots of wind either. It was a blast to sail in NYC. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Jan 19, 2015, at 5:03 AM, David Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: saw it at the Toronto boat show yesterday. Doesn't look much like my old Mark 1. david On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 19:05 -0500, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List wrote: Funny. I posted this on the list in Oct 2013 when the first drawings of the Redline were released. SR was purchased by CC from Glen Henderson. A drawing of the first boat to be produced by the new Cc company was shown at the Newport Boat show. It's the Redline 41 similar to a King 40 by Summit yachts. You can see a drawing of it at http://summit-yachts.com/. The new line is described below Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This from Sailing World: the CC Redline 41 is deemed an updated King 40. BOTY rules require original tooling, so the 41,although well built, is excused. Based on the CC website I was lead to believe this was a new hull. Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Redline was a huge disappointment. They should take a chainsaw to the interior and the price tag. Joel On Sunday, January 18, 2015, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: CC 30 OD I just shipped 3 of these boats (hull nos: 05, 06 08) to USWatercraft's Japanese dealer. All 3 boats were pre sold. The dealer has 3 more hulls on order for delivery by the end of May 2015. There is also a lot of interest from Australia we well. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 CC 39 TM On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Re: Stus-List Teak stain?
I have also found that Watco Danish Oil Cherry is an exact match for the original on my 1990 34+. They may have used something else earlier as mine seems to have more of a reddish hue than I have seen on other older CCs. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:51 AM To: Nate Flesness; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Teak stain? On my new cabinets I've use Watco Danish Teak Oil ( which my friend who does wooden boat restoration says is the very best you can buy) and one or two coats on the new teak exactly matches the old factory. All the teak on my 38 mkII is oiled, not stained and varnished. I have been using Starbright teak oil from WM to maintain the teak on both the 25 and the 38, but wil use Watco in the future. Particularly since I found someone who sells quarts on EBay for half the local price and less than the Starbright. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 09:21, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: A lister (whose name I've lost) posted this hard-won formula a few years ago. I have used it several times, and its a perfect match to the factory finish (which is definitely a warm brown stain) on my 1980 30-1. Minwax Wood Finish (Stain) 1 part Provincial (211) 2 parts Golden Pecan (245) 2 parts Colonial Maple (223) Mix, apply, wipe off. Nate Sarah Jean Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:19 AM, David Blair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Jim I had the same question as one could see bits of stain onto the backs of some pieces. The old guy at the Lumberworld on Quadra took one look at it and reached for the Watco Danish Oil Cherry and it matched perfectly on the unstained back of an original piece. Likely they used that product to get more consistent color across the varying teak tones. I used it on my last little teak project – 1 or 2 coats – excellent results. Cheers From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:27 PM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Stus-List Teak stain? I have our companionway steps home for refinishing, and have just had to sand through a layer of what appears to be mahogany(ish) stain to get to the bare teak. Looking around the boat, it looks like it may have the stain on every teak surface. Anyone know anything about what particular stain they used? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Joe The Farr 30 has stuck around a long time and is still going strong. You never know how these things will play out. One thing is that they have to make a lot of them if they are to stick - like J70 From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 12:02 PM To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design The new 30 looks just like all the other hot-racer-of-the-month boats. It may or may not succeed as a racing boat, but I can’t see it ever accomplishing what the original CCs did. I can’t see them having second and third and fourth lives being family daysailors, cruisers, live-aboards, ocean voyagers, beercan racers, etc. I hope they do well racing. They won’t sell enough to non-racers to be viable. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:40 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Curtis, I agree with you. I race on a J-80 (and on my 30-1), and I cannot imagine that the new 30 will ever be a 'legend'. Our boats are excellent all-purpose boats - race, cruise, camp, sturdy, etc. The new 30 may have 100 takers in a sea of similar one-design sportboats. We have over 600 of us and I'll bet most of them are still on the water, 30 years after the last was built. Gary - Original Message - From: Curtis via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: D.J. Plattmailto:w7...@yahoo.ca ; cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design My old 30-1 is a legend, Not sure the new 30 will ever be that. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:34 PM, D.J. Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Can't argue with you there. Best I ever saw as 8.2 and that was in a lot more than 15 knots. -- From: Tim Goodyear timg...@gmail.commailto:timg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:00 PM To: David Platt w7...@yahoo.camailto:w7...@yahoo.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design I bet your old Mark 1 doesn't do 12 knots in 15 knots of wind either. It was a blast to sail in NYC. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Jan 19, 2015, at 5:03 AM, David Platt via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: saw it at the Toronto boat show yesterday. Doesn't look much like my old Mark 1. david On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 19:05 -0500, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List wrote: Funny. I posted this on the list in Oct 2013 when the first drawings of the Redline were released. SR was purchased by CC from Glen Henderson. A drawing of the first boat to be produced by the new Cc company was shown at the Newport Boat show. It's the Redline 41 similar to a King 40 by Summit yachts. You can see a drawing of it at http://summit-yachts.com/. The new line is described below Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This from Sailing World: the CC Redline 41 is deemed an updated King 40. BOTY rules require original tooling, so the 41,although well built, is excused. Based on the CC website I was lead to believe this was a new hull. Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Redline was a huge disappointment. They should take a chainsaw to the interior and the price tag. Joel On Sunday, January 18, 2015, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: CC 30 OD I just shipped 3 of these boats (hull nos: 05, 06 08) to USWatercraft's Japanese dealer. All 3 boats were pre sold. The dealer has 3 more hulls on order for delivery by the end of May 2015. There is also a lot of interest from Australia we well. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 CC 39 TM On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Looking forward to finally seeing one at the Seattle Boat Show next week. Hoping they'll have the a Redline 41 though I doubt it. Oh yeah...go Hawks! Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200tel:206.463.9200 On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 20:15:30 -0500 From: Jerome Tauber jrtau...@aol.commailto:jrtau...@aol.com To:
Re: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger
Hi Richard, I'm not sure how effective it might be, but dropping a quick email to the Mayor and the seven councillors who voted against the motion to acquire the property from the Federal government upon which the museum sits would be greatly appreciated. I think it is important to remind them that the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston has a much broader constituency than just Kingston. Emails from far afield might emphasise that. The New Age of Sail exhibit, the founding of the Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame, and the preservation of the history of recreational sailing in Canada and the Great Lakes are all initiatives in which the Marine Museum has been involved. Just letting them know that the whole world is watching might be very beneficial! Rob Mayor Brian Paterson: bpater...@cityofkingston.ca Peter Stroud: pstr...@cityofkingston.ca Jeff McLaren: jmcla...@cityofkingston.ca Liz Schell: lsch...@cityofkingston.ca Rob Hutchinson: rhutchin...@cityofkingston.ca Lisa Osanic: losa...@cityofkingston.ca Kevin George: kgeo...@cityofkingston.ca Ryan Boehme: rboe...@cityofkingston.ca On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com wrote: Rob, is there anything we can do as an organization? Obviously, a large portion of us are south of the border, but we want to see the museum be successful in this as well as our Canadian brethren; what would you recommend? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com Cc: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 7:46 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger Harry, Pdfs of all drawings can be obtained from the Museum Curator, Sandrena Raymond, at (cura...@marmuseum.ca). Let's hope that the drawings will still be available for many years to come. However, all Canadians should drop a note to their Conservative MPs, if they want to help. Rob On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Rob, Truly a critical period in the history of the museum...wish i could write a huge check! Fearing losing forever the opportunity to acquire the drawings for MIRAGE, i would like to initiate the process buy them. She is a 1985 CC Northeast 39 built in the Bruckman yard. Would you be able to point me in the right direction to get this rolling? Harry Hallgring Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Jim, Thanks for letting everyone know about this. As you might know, I serve on the Board of Trustees of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston, and I was the co-curator of the New Age of Sail exhibit at the Museum last year, one of the high points of which was inducting George Cuthbertson and Bruce Kirby into the Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame. Your attached piece by Mr. Granatstein is quite accurate. The Marine Museum is facing extinction if the Federal Government doesn't change its mind and hangs on to this historic piece of waterfront property, or if they don't work more closely with the City of Kingston to help them acquire the land. Otherwise it will be sold to private developers who will evict the Museum to build more condos. The Museum does not have enough money to finance a relocation, even if a suitable location was available. Yes, please write your MPs, especially the Conservative ones. This is very serious stuff. The Museum holds the entire CC Collection of drawings, as well as drawings from German and Milne, and many other prominent Canadian Naval Architects and shipbuilders. Rob Mazza On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/why-is-ottawa-sinking-kingstons-marine-museum/article22515252/ Time to write your MP's. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo
Re: Stus-List Teak stain?
It's quite possible that many layers of teak oil can impart that reddish hue, or like David says, cherry flavoured oil. The older boats do seem to have darker teak than the later ones, whether because of age or because the process was changed as tastes went away from the teak cave look. I want to varnish the steps, not oil them, so a pre-stain is necessary. I was considering an oxalic acid bath to lighten up the steps a bit, but after due deliberation, I quite like the richness of the current stain. First coat of varnish goes on today. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 09:17, David Blair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have also found that Watco Danish Oil Cherry is an exact match for the original on my 1990 34+. They may have used something else earlier as mine seems to have more of a reddish hue than I have seen on other older CCs. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Brass via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:51 AM *To:* Nate Flesness; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Teak stain? On my new cabinets I've use Watco Danish Teak Oil ( which my friend who does wooden boat restoration says is the very best you can buy) and one or two coats on the new teak exactly matches the old factory. All the teak on my 38 mkII is oiled, not stained and varnished. I have been using Starbright teak oil from WM to maintain the teak on both the 25 and the 38, but wil use Watco in the future. Particularly since I found someone who sells quarts on EBay for half the local price and less than the Starbright. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 09:21, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: A lister (whose name I've lost) posted this hard-won formula a few years ago. I have used it several times, and its a perfect match to the factory finish (which is definitely a warm brown stain) on my 1980 30-1. Minwax Wood Finish (Stain) 1 part Provincial (211) 2 parts Golden Pecan (245) 2 parts Colonial Maple (223) Mix, apply, wipe off. Nate Sarah Jean Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:19 AM, David Blair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Jim I had the same question as one could see bits of stain onto the backs of some pieces. The old guy at the Lumberworld on Quadra took one look at it and reached for the Watco Danish Oil Cherry and it matched perfectly on the unstained back of an original piece. Likely they used that product to get more consistent color across the varying teak tones. I used it on my last little teak project – 1 or 2 coats – excellent results. Cheers *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Watts via CnC-List *Sent:* Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:27 PM *To:* 1 CnC List *Subject:* Stus-List Teak stain? I have our companionway steps home for refinishing, and have just had to sand through a layer of what appears to be mahogany(ish) stain to get to the bare teak. Looking around the boat, it looks like it may have the stain on every teak surface. Anyone know anything about what particular stain they used? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailing magazines
Joel, I’m finding Sailing World is now geared to the high-tech racers and PHRF racing has become a distant memory. While seeing the latest advances is interesting, I’m finding it’s not worth it. I do enjoy Cruising World for the articles and the advertising for gear and boats. If you like projects and articles about cruising, I would recommend “Sailing and Good Old Boat. There are also a few British and Australian digital magazines that I get on my iPad that are also good reads. Also great are some of the sailing blogs that you can find throughout the Internet full of projects and adventures — including a few great ones by CC owners. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I currently get Sail and Cruising World. I'm going to drop CW because I don't plan to spend three months exploring Tahiti any time soon. Sailing World wants back. It is worth the money? Which mags do you read/recommend for racing and coastal cruising? -- Joel 35/3 Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailing magazines
I get a bunch ... Cruising World and Blue Water sailing for destinations and gear info Yachting World on my iPad for dreaming And Gam, a local Canadian magazine for fun Helps the owner/editor is a friend (still pay though) Sent from my iPad On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I currently get Sail and Cruising World. I'm going to drop CW because I don't plan to spend three months exploring Tahiti any time soon. Sailing World wants back. It is worth the money? Which mags do you read/recommend for racing and coastal cruising? -- Joel 35/3 Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Magazines
I am a huge fan of Sailing Magazine___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot Components
For sale: Raymarine Smartpilot X5 (SPX5) autopilot parts: Fluxgate compass $140 X5 course computer $350 Tiller control arm $250 Misc brackets and cables for above ... included with the appropriate component. User / installation manuals Please note - I do not have the in-cockpit control head. All are BRAND NEW. Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailing magazines
I used to get many magazines. Good Old Boat is the only one that has stayed. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 10:21, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Joel, I’m finding Sailing World is now geared to the high-tech racers and PHRF racing has become a distant memory. While seeing the latest advances is interesting, I’m finding it’s not worth it. I do enjoy Cruising World for the articles and the advertising for gear and boats. If you like projects and articles about cruising, I would recommend “Sailing and Good Old Boat. There are also a few British and Australian digital magazines that I get on my iPad that are also good reads. Also great are some of the sailing blogs that you can find throughout the Internet full of projects and adventures — including a few great ones by CC owners. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I currently get Sail and Cruising World. I'm going to drop CW because I don't plan to spend three months exploring Tahiti any time soon. Sailing World wants back. It is worth the money? Which mags do you read/recommend for racing and coastal cruising? -- Joel 35/3 Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailing magazines
I get Sail (like the handy hints and upgrade projects and the 'what we did right/wrong' articles) and Sailing World (the racing rules discussions and diagrams are good learning tools). Gary - Original Message - From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:02 PM Subject: Stus-List Sailing magazines I currently get Sail and Cruising World. I'm going to drop CW because I don't plan to spend three months exploring Tahiti any time soon. Sailing World wants back. It is worth the money? Which mags do you read/recommend for racing and coastal cruising? -- Joel 35/3 Annapolis 301 541 8551 -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailing magazines
Thanks Edd, I'm glad to see a recommendation for Good Old Boat in the very first reply! ;-) Rob On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Joel, I’m finding Sailing World is now geared to the high-tech racers and PHRF racing has become a distant memory. While seeing the latest advances is interesting, I’m finding it’s not worth it. I do enjoy Cruising World for the articles and the advertising for gear and boats. If you like projects and articles about cruising, I would recommend “Sailing and Good Old Boat. There are also a few British and Australian digital magazines that I get on my iPad that are also good reads. Also great are some of the sailing blogs that you can find throughout the Internet full of projects and adventures — including a few great ones by CC owners. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I currently get Sail and Cruising World. I'm going to drop CW because I don't plan to spend three months exploring Tahiti any time soon. Sailing World wants back. It is worth the money? Which mags do you read/recommend for racing and coastal cruising? -- Joel 35/3 Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger
I emailed my MP Dean Allison. Not holding my breath, but every little bit of showing an interest in the actual matter might help. Marek Fluder Hamilton On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Harry, Pdfs of all drawings can be obtained from the Museum Curator, Sandrena Raymond, at (cura...@marmuseum.ca). Let's hope that the drawings will still be available for many years to come. However, all Canadians should drop a note to their Conservative MPs, if they want to help. Rob On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Rob, Truly a critical period in the history of the museum...wish i could write a huge check! Fearing losing forever the opportunity to acquire the drawings for MIRAGE, i would like to initiate the process buy them. She is a 1985 CC Northeast 39 built in the Bruckman yard. Would you be able to point me in the right direction to get this rolling? Harry Hallgring Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Jim, Thanks for letting everyone know about this. As you might know, I serve on the Board of Trustees of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston, and I was the co-curator of the New Age of Sail exhibit at the Museum last year, one of the high points of which was inducting George Cuthbertson and Bruce Kirby into the Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame. Your attached piece by Mr. Granatstein is quite accurate. The Marine Museum is facing extinction if the Federal Government doesn't change its mind and hangs on to this historic piece of waterfront property, or if they don't work more closely with the City of Kingston to help them acquire the land. Otherwise it will be sold to private developers who will evict the Museum to build more condos. The Museum does not have enough money to finance a relocation, even if a suitable location was available. Yes, please write your MPs, especially the Conservative ones. This is very serious stuff. The Museum holds the entire CC Collection of drawings, as well as drawings from German and Milne, and many other prominent Canadian Naval Architects and shipbuilders. Rob Mazza On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/why-is-ottawa-sinking-kingstons-marine-museum/article22515252/ Time to write your MP's. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Mine is number 593 and Curtis has a low 600 number. Gary - Original Message - From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Sailing magazines
I currently get Sail and Cruising World. I'm going to drop CW because I don't plan to spend three months exploring Tahiti any time soon. Sailing World wants back. It is worth the money? Which mags do you read/recommend for racing and coastal cruising? -- Joel 35/3 Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
By the way, hull number 1 is still sailing on the Chesapeake. Gary - Original Message - From: Nate Flesness via CnC-List To: Hoyt, Mike ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:08 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design The Canadian Yachting magazine article on the photoalbum says more than 800 CC 30-1's were built - the second highest production number (more than 1,000 27's). Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 (#602) Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fresh water flush of engine
I don't know about flushing the engine with fresh water (I'm in brackish water - mid Chesapeake) but I plan on putting a T valve in my water intake before next splash so I can easily hook up a hose to ingest anti-freeze. The intake hose seems to get bonded to the thru-hull and I'm tired of having to struggle (or cut) to get it off each year. Project number 206. Gary 30-1 St. Michaels Maryland - Original Message - From: Al Serrato via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:59 PM Subject: Stus-List Fresh water flush of engine I have a 1981 '34 with a Yanmar 3GMD engine with seawater cooling. A mechanic recommended that I install a t-valve for the raw water intake so I can flush the engine with fresh water occasionally. The engine appears to be in good condition and runs well in the two years I have owned the boat but I suspect that it is the original, making it 33 years old. While this makes sense, I'm wondering whether it's necessary at this point, given the age of the engine. in other words, is the damage already do Everything? Also, I'm wondering what the long term effect of seawater cooling is and what failures or problems result from the seawater over long periods of time. What is the likely useful life of a marine Yanmar diesel? Thanks for any advice or suggestions. Al Serrato Fidelity 1981 C C 34 San Francisco Bay -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
By the pictures it looks like that one was a 29 Mk1. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: January-20-15 15:48 To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week: http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds, but I'm not betting on it. McConahay just announced a 30, plus there are Farrs and Seascapes, just to name a few, to fragment a small market. Then there is the J monster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Yes, but that was a 30-2. Does it count? Gary 30-1 - Original Message - From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List To: Curtis ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week: http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds, but I'm not betting on it. McConahay just announced a 30, plus there are Farrs and Seascapes, just to name a few, to fragment a small market. Then there is the J monster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So right Gary. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote: ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List FW: Magazines
I have a Practical Sailor collection from 1987 to 2013, at that point I figured they had jumped the shark and stopped subscribing. Ever since the departure of Dan Spurr and others, PS seemed to lose a bit of focus and started evaluating products based on occasion on some weird amateurish tests. I get a lot of honest product and process feedback from here and from other online sailing sites, so for me PS is just not cutting it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 11:52, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Well, since we’re plugging sailing magazines we’re featured in, LI Sound sailing enthusiasts should subscribe to Windcheck Magazine. From September 2008: http://www.trial.com/images/blog/windcheck.pdf Though seriously, Practical Sailor is a must for anyone’s collection. Unbiased reviews and field tests. So valuable they could quadruple the price and I’d still subscribe. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:32 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ahhh...noreally...uh...seriously...absolutely not... And that would be your gorgeous boat as well. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) -- From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:23:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List FW: Magazines To: davidrisc...@msn.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Is that because they featured your gorgeous boat on the cover, David? Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:20 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Get most of the mentioned, but really peruse Practical Sailor. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) -- To: john.ir...@rogers.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:08:54 + Subject: Re: Stus-List Magazines From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups about the boats we all know -- *From:* CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of John Irvin via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] *Sent:* January 20, 2015 2:34 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Magazines I am a huge fan of Sailing Magazine ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Magazines
In print: Being a technology / analytical kind of guy I'm a huge Sailing World fan and disagree with the negative comments. They have in depth racing technical / tactical and rules discussions that alone are worth the price of admission. I concede that some of the in-depth stuff reads like a text book but if you make the effort to wade through it, there's much to gain. Plus it comes free if you are a US Sailing member at one of the more reasonable levels.. I also read Sail this one's good for some project stuff, latest gear of course, and the usual far away cruising, the disaster stories (Like that a lot), boat test etc. I was kind of a sucker on this on this one as my dad used to subscribe in the 70's and I dig the nostalgia side. As for the price I got a 2 year subscription deal somewhere online for about 9 bucks.. Couldn't pass it up If you subscribe to Boat US their mag is not very sailing oriented but it is a surprisingly good general boating magazine. Online + One on Good old boat /. Practical Sailor (Love the comparison tests on gear and stuff) .. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List handicap for after market sprits
Hi Ryan, Locally they gave an adjustment to furlers, and gave the same credit to anyone w a furler, above deck, under deck, Melges, J-105, etc. And many people kept the credit even when they used a sail that didn't furl. Does Scapa have a sprit? How much did they adjust your handicap? Chuck - Original Message - From: Ryan Raber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45:45 AM Subject: Stus-List handicap for after market sprits Peat, This Email below is from my FH in NE but the implementation of the rule was delayed for public comment from our members. Essentially the new matrix adds three seconds to my old rating (IMX40) with the same configuration. There was an extensive study done that revealed asymmetrical spinnakers have been able to rotate further to Windward to allow deeper downwind angles then the initial rating system accounted for this?? Other members don't understand why boats that were built with Sprint are not penalized or adjusted the same as the boats with sprint added to them after-the-fact? Our PHRF region has two main groups one more competitive group in the Marblehead area and one less competitive group comprised of older vessels in Maine. The boats in MH are 70-80% AS in the race fleet. There are a group of older WELL maintained (Nelson Mrek,Frers, Taylor, and a newer 36.7 beny) that go SM and class 5/6 are SM. but all the big boats that are racing have purchase or converted their boat to AS. And of course all the new one design fleets are asymmetrical j70…. In Maine its SM except for the j/105’s and we have limited participation from a few AS Race boats Farr395, 1D35, Swan club 42… There are 2 conversion sprit boats participating in Maine next year IMX40 and a Farr43. I feel that asymmetrical is the way of the future easier to sail and more fun. go at least 20% or their pain to jibe. The new matrix proposed is provided in the table below: D/L=(dis (lbs.)/2240)/((0.01*WLL(ft))3) %=J*X for sprint length # are adjustment to your rating D/L bow 10% 20% 30% 220 9 6 3 0 150-220 6 3 0 -3 100-150 3 0 -3 -6 100 0 -3 -6 -9 Good morning Ryan Yes, I was there and a new rule has been passed for 2015. The heart of the issue, as you probably already know, is that for a number of years boats which changed from a symmetrical spin to an asym were given a credit of up to 9 sec/mile. PHRFNE is finally recognizing that the credit was a mistake in some cases. I don't know how it will impact your handicap because I don't have access to the 2014 cert for your boat (I can access only those boats that were in the GMORA fleet in 2014). But the rule is essentially based on the ratio of your displacement to LWL. Then depending on that ratio and the length of your sprit relative to the J measurement, you may see a reduced spinnaker credit of 3, 6 or 9 sec/mile. By the way, the displacement used will be based on an empty boat and that number may not be what is on the boat's 2014 certificate. PHRFNE will be publishing, shortly, an explanation of the new rule in layman's terms so that you can understand what has transpired. I recognize that the above has probably created more questions than answers but more will follow soon. Ryan Raber 207.841.7881 r...@fvprovidian.net ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Port light Gaskets Material
All of my EDPM port gaskets have held up like new in the sun down here. You can find a variety of shapes and sizes at McMaster-Carr www.mcmaster.com Wal you wrote: Before I left the boat I read about replacing the gaskets. In the post someone had linked to a supplier that produces the material for the gaskets for the port lights, but I can't seem to find it now. If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Zinc
The big square ones do a pretty good job of scraping the keel. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 12:51, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The zinc won't stop build-up. Joel On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Explain the cloud. If you use a hard paint vs an ablative can you scrub then? -- *From:* CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Dan Utinske via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] *Sent:* January 20, 2015 4:39 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Zinc I had diver remove the 2 blades(prop) and check zinc; there were none! I have since ordered zinc's hoping I got the correct one. The hull looks pretty good but has the coating that can't be disturbed much - $10K fine if they see a cloud. So its basically hand cleaning. The only buildup was on the prop and shaft so hoping the zinc will work. I'm going to polish the 2 blades, heavy little buggers and see if I can get all the blemishes removed. I tried to attach video but it was denied, exceeded limits.. Dan 26' CC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Yours is hull number 671, built in 1981 (don't know the month, but I think it is May). Mine is ZZC 30 593 M 80 B. So, it looks like they made 77 boats in little more than a year. Gary - Original Message - From: Curtis via CnC-List To: Hoyt, Mike ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Here's an explanation of the E http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm Here's another: http://www.hinsearchplus.com/hs_userguide.aspx Ken H On 20 January 2015 at 17:21, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yours is hull number 671, built in 1981 (don't know the month, but I think it is May). Mine is ZZC 30 593 M 80 B. So, it looks like they made 77 boats in little more than a year. Gary - Original Message - *From:* Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:33 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
That fire is sad. What could cause that, electrical fault, Winter heaters? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:48:14 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week: http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds, but I'm not betting on it. McConahay just announced a 30, plus there are Farrs and Seascapes, just to name a few, to fragment a small market. Then there is the J monster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So right Gary. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote ZZC- 30- 671- M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [ cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [ cnc-list@cnc-list.com ] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . /blockquote -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com /blockquote -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
ZCC is CC Yachts..NOTL plant I think 30 is model 671 is hull number M81 is 81 model E is the keel laid down (production started) in December 1980 (boat model years start in September, like cars, so boats started in August of a given year (A) are the next model year) Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:33 PM To: Hoyt, Mike; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Teak stain?
I get Watco Teak oil from Home Depot or Lowes. It seems to be very consistent and thinner than typical marine products. One pint can has served me well for many years. I wipe down all the interior wood each spring with Pinesol in a handspray bottle and let it dry. (strategy is to kill any mold spores, while cleaning) It has made a huge difference in the look and smell of the boat. Later, I wipe a little Watco Teak Oil on a terry cloth rag and let it soak into the wood, then wipe off any excess. Gives a nice satin sheen. My only complaint is that the wood has to be above 50 degrees, so this task can't be reasonably done in my boat until March or April. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Nate Flesness nateflesn...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:50:40 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Teak stain? On my new cabinets I've use Watco Danish Teak Oil ( which my friend who does wooden boat restoration says is the very best you can buy) and one or two coats on the new teak exactly matches the old factory. All the teak on my 38 mkII is oiled, not stained and varnished. I have been using Starbright teak oil from WM to maintain the teak on both the 25 and the 38, but wil use Watco in the future. Particularly since I found someone who sells quarts on EBay for half the local price and less than the Starbright. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 09:21, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: A lister (whose name I've lost) posted this hard-won formula a few years ago. I have used it several times, and its a perfect match to the factory finish (which is definitely a warm brown stain) on my 1980 30-1. Minwax Wood Finish (Stain) 1 part Provincial (211) 2 parts Golden Pecan (245) 2 parts Colonial Maple (223) Mix, apply, wipe off. Nate Sarah Jean Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:19 AM, David Blair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote Jim I had the same question as one could see bits of stain onto the backs of some pieces. The old guy at the Lumberworld on Quadra took one look at it and reached for the Watco Danish Oil Cherry and it matched perfectly on the unstained back of an original piece. Likely they used that product to get more consistent color across the varying teak tones. I used it on my last little teak project – 1 or 2 coats – excellent results. Cheers From: CnC-List [mailto: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Watts via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:27 PM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Stus-List Teak stain? I have our companionway steps home for refinishing, and have just had to sand through a layer of what appears to be mahogany(ish) stain to get to the bare teak. Looking around the boat, it looks like it may have the stain on every teak surface. Anyone know anything about what particular stain they used? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com /blockquote blockquote ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com /blockquote ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Yup. Not a 30-2 luckily! They are not as ubiquitous as the 30. (Fire looks like an electrical heater. Exactly why many yards forbid them.) KD 30-2 PDX On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 6:03:52 PM Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: That fire is sad. What could cause that, electrical fault, Winter heaters? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:48:14 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week: http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds, but I'm not betting on it. McConahay just announced a 30, plus there are Farrs and Seascapes, just to name a few, to fragment a small market. Then there is the J monster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So right Gary. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote: ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing balsa core
Mike, Great pics, Inspirational! Thanks. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Mike via CnC-List Hoyt cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 11:10:47 AM Subject: Stus-List replacing balsa core Last week someone asked about this. The page below on my site from J27 shows how I did this from above a couple years ago with photos. http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt/Projects/recore/recore.htm Note that there is no malicious code on that page despite Windows Defender telling me it is an attack site .. argh ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC 110
I'm looking for feedback about the sailing characteristics of the CC 110's shoal draft version. It has a pretty generous sail area to displacement ratio. I often sail solo or short hand with one other crew member and was wondering what size headsail would be appropriate for winds in the 15-20 knot true wind range. I've never sailed on this particular model and have it on my short list of possible new boats. I would love to speak with someone who owns one of these boats If you wouldn't mind spending some time answering a bunch of questions, please drop me a note with a phone number where I can call you. Thanks. And if anybody is looking for a really nice CC 29-2, mine is for sale. http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/40576 Ted Drossos CC 29-2 H2OT Bay Shore, Long Island, NY ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
That was definitely not a 30-2 (no folding gate in the transom), I'd say the ID as a 29-1 is correct. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 12:20, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yes, but that was a 30-2. Does it count? Gary 30-1 - Original Message - *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:48 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week: http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds, but I'm not betting on it. McConahay just announced a 30, plus there are Farrs and Seascapes, just to name a few, to fragment a small market. Then there is the J monster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So right Gary. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote: ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Zinc
I had diver remove the 2 blades(prop) and check zinc; there were none! I have since ordered zinc's hoping I got the correct one. The hull looks pretty good but has the coating that can't be disturbed much - $10K fine if they see a cloud. So its basically hand cleaning. The only buildup was on the prop and shaft so hoping the zinc will work. I'm going to polish the 2 blades, heavy little buggers and see if I can get all the blemishes removed. I tried to attach video but it was denied, exceeded limits.. Dan 26' CC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Zinc
You could always upload to Youtube/Vimeo or similar and link to here. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 12:39, Dan Utinske via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I had diver remove the 2 blades(prop) and check zinc; there were none! I have since ordered zinc's hoping I got the correct one. The hull looks pretty good but has the coating that can't be disturbed much - $10K fine if they see a cloud. So its basically hand cleaning. The only buildup was on the prop and shaft so hoping the zinc will work. I'm going to polish the 2 blades, heavy little buggers and see if I can get all the blemishes removed. I tried to attach video but it was denied, exceeded limits.. Dan 26' CC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Zinc
Explain the cloud. If you use a hard paint vs an ablative can you scrub then? From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Dan Utinske via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 4:39 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Zinc I had diver remove the 2 blades(prop) and check zinc; there were none! I have since ordered zinc's hoping I got the correct one. The hull looks pretty good but has the coating that can't be disturbed much - $10K fine if they see a cloud. So its basically hand cleaning. The only buildup was on the prop and shaft so hoping the zinc will work. I'm going to polish the 2 blades, heavy little buggers and see if I can get all the blemishes removed. I tried to attach video but it was denied, exceeded limits.. Dan 26' CC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Zinc
The zinc won't stop build-up. Joel On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Explain the cloud. If you use a hard paint vs an ablative can you scrub then? -- *From:* CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Dan Utinske via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] *Sent:* January 20, 2015 4:39 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Zinc I had diver remove the 2 blades(prop) and check zinc; there were none! I have since ordered zinc's hoping I got the correct one. The hull looks pretty good but has the coating that can't be disturbed much - $10K fine if they see a cloud. So its basically hand cleaning. The only buildup was on the prop and shaft so hoping the zinc will work. I'm going to polish the 2 blades, heavy little buggers and see if I can get all the blemishes removed. I tried to attach video but it was denied, exceeded limits.. Dan 26' CC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Magazines
At least when I was working with them, Karen Jerry of Good Old Boat had a 30mkI, as well as a Mega that they wanted to trailer around. And Michael Facius on this list, who is the publisher, also had a 30mkI. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups about the boats we all know ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List FW: Magazines
Is that because they featured your gorgeous boat on the cover, David? Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:20 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Get most of the mentioned, but really peruse Practical Sailor. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) -- To: john.ir...@rogers.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:08:54 + Subject: Re: Stus-List Magazines From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups about the boats we all know -- *From:* CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of John Irvin via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] *Sent:* January 20, 2015 2:34 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Magazines I am a huge fan of Sailing Magazine ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List FW: Magazines
Ahhh...noreally...uh...seriously...absolutely not... And that would be your gorgeous boat as well. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:23:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List FW: Magazines To: davidrisc...@msn.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Is that because they featured your gorgeous boat on the cover, David? Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:20 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Get most of the mentioned, but really peruse Practical Sailor. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: john.ir...@rogers.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:08:54 + Subject: Re: Stus-List Magazines From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups about the boats we all know From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of John Irvin via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 2:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Magazines I am a huge fan of Sailing Magazine ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Magazines
According to the latest issue, they all still own their good old CC's. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 11:20, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: At least when I was working with them, Karen Jerry of *Good Old Boat* had a 30mkI, as well as a Mega that they wanted to trailer around. And Michael Facius on this list, who is the publisher, also had a 30mkI. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups about the boats we all know ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List FW: Magazines
Well, since we’re plugging sailing magazines we’re featured in, LI Sound sailing enthusiasts should subscribe to Windcheck Magazine. From September 2008: http://www.trial.com/images/blog/windcheck.pdf http://www.trial.com/images/blog/windcheck.pdf Though seriously, Practical Sailor is a must for anyone’s collection. Unbiased reviews and field tests. So valuable they could quadruple the price and I’d still subscribe. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:32 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ahhh...noreally...uh...seriously...absolutely not... And that would be your gorgeous boat as well. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:23:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List FW: Magazines To: davidrisc...@msn.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Is that because they featured your gorgeous boat on the cover, David? Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:20 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Get most of the mentioned, but really peruse Practical Sailor. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: john.ir...@rogers.com mailto:john.ir...@rogers.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:08:54 + Subject: Re: Stus-List Magazines From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups about the boats we all know From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of John Irvin via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 2:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Magazines I am a huge fan of Sailing Magazine ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Magazines
Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups about the boats we all know From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of John Irvin via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 2:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Magazines I am a huge fan of Sailing Magazine ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List FW: Magazines
Get most of the mentioned, but really peruse Practical Sailor. David F. Risch 1981 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: john.ir...@rogers.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:08:54 + Subject: Re: Stus-List Magazines From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Good Old Boat featured a CC Mega 30 in last issue. Is nice to see write-ups about the boats we all know From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of John Irvin via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 2:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Magazines I am a huge fan of Sailing Magazine ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
So right Gary. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote: ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week: http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds, but I'm not betting on it. McConahay just announced a 30, plus there are Farrs and Seascapes, just to name a few, to fragment a small market. Then there is the J monster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So right Gary. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote: ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
