Re: Stus-List Torqing keel bolts
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Jake, Thanks much for the help offer. I finished the bracing for the keel yesterday. This morning I head to the yard (if I can find it in this fog…) and we lift the hull off and move it into the shed. The yard has not really done this before so I keep showing them pictures of your hull sans keel and saying “we can do this… Pictures of the keel bracing just posted in my sporadically updated blog. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net wrote: Dave, I hauled the boat yesterday. It is time to retorque the forward keel bolt and check the torque on the rest of them. It has been far too long since I RR’d the keel. My ¾” ratchet set is ready, as well as a nice long bar to put over the handle. It would be nice to have a torque multiplier, but a bit of elbow grease will have to do for now. Other than that, it’s time to sand, paint, and polish before I splash in April. If you have any questions, let me know. I’ve been there before and have learned a lot from the process. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 7:30 PM To: Burt Stratton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Torqing keel bolts Burt, I’m not sure what model CC you have but the bolts on my 37’ are two sizes, with the smaller one (keel bolt) directly under the mast. I’m fairly certain that two different torque values may be called for. I haven’t even measured them yet but tomorrow I start building a cradle/support in advance of lifting the hull off of the keel (and removing the rudder) prior to moving the the hull into the shed for painting. I won’t be tightening the keel until sometime next late spring but would be interested in what you find when re-torqueing yours if you drop the keel. Jake Brodersen (CC 35 MKIII) on the list has done this and he may be a good source of info. I’ve seen the pictures of his keel and the forward bolt is extremely long. Very, very long... Good luck. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Jan 19, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I know this subject has been discussed in great detail. Sorry for any duplication. I am in the process of procuring a three quarter drive torque wrench and sockets big enough to re-torque my keel bolts. Before I do this I just want to be sure that 350 foot-pounds is the correct adjustment. Also, all my keel bolts appear to be the same approximate size – very large. The nuts look like one and three quarter inch or larger. There is one, however forward of the mast step that is way smaller. Maybe three quarter inch. Not sure if that is a keel bolt. It doesn’t look like one. It almost looks like it could be a ground point but there are no bonding connections to it. It lines up over the forward most part of the keel right in the center of the bottom of the hull. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Annual rope sale at WestMarine
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Hi, I thought I would pass along that WestMarine is having a one day 40% off bulk rope sale tomorrow January 23. This is good both in store and online. Good time to replace a ratty line. - Paul E. 1981 CC Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Torqing keel bolts
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Dave, please take lots of photos, I, for one, am hoping to use your blog as a how to to do the same for my boat...and no one around here has ever even attempted to lift a boat off its keel. many thanks... Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net Cc: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thu, Jan 22, 2015 7:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Torqing keel bolts This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Jake, Thanks much for the help offer. I finished the bracing for the keel yesterday. This morning I head to the yard (if I can find it in this fog…) and we lift the hull off and move it into the shed. The yard has not really done this before so I keep showing them pictures of your hull sans keel and saying “we can do this… Pictures of the keel bracing just posted in my sporadically updated blog. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net wrote: Dave, I hauled the boat yesterday. It is time to retorque the forward keel bolt and check the torque on the rest of them. It has been far too long since I RR’d the keel. My ¾” ratchet set is ready, as well as a nice long bar to put over the handle. It would be nice to have a torque multiplier, but a bit of elbow grease will have to do for now. Other than that, it’s time to sand, paint, and polish before I splash in April. If you have any questions, let me know. I’ve been there before and have learned a lot from the process. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 7:30 PM To: Burt Stratton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Torqing keel bolts Burt, I’m not sure what model CC you have but the bolts on my 37’ are two sizes, with the smaller one (keel bolt) directly under the mast. I’m fairly certain that two different torque values may be called for. I haven’t even measured them yet but tomorrow I start building a cradle/support in advance of lifting the hull off of the keel (and removing the rudder) prior to moving the the hull into the shed for painting. I won’t be tightening the keel until sometime next late spring but would be interested in what you find when re-torqueing yours if you drop the keel. Jake Brodersen (CC 35 MKIII) on the list has done this and he may be a good source of info. I’ve seen the pictures of his keel and the forward bolt is extremely long. Very, very long... Good luck. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Jan 19, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I know this subject has been discussed in great detail. Sorry for any duplication. I am in the process of procuring a three quarter drive torque wrench and sockets big enough to re-torque my keel bolts. Before I do this I just want to be sure that 350 foot-pounds is the correct adjustment. Also, all my keel bolts appear to be the same approximate size – very large. The nuts look like one and three quarter inch or larger. There is one, however forward of the mast step that is way smaller. Maybe three quarter inch. Not sure if that is a keel bolt. It doesn’t look like one. It almost looks like it could be a ground point but there are no bonding connections to it. It lines up over the forward most part of the keel right in the center of the bottom of the hull. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your
Re: Stus-List handicap for after market sprits
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ That is total BS. Not The intent of the ruling at all. http://www.phrfne.org/page/handicapping/handicap_adjustments No sprit on the CC, it's to heavy in my opinion to benefit from a sprint. The faster the boat the better the AW angel so the A-kite can get out in clear air from the main. That's a big source of controversy though I could be wrong. The 34r serve me well down wind. Up wind tougher game. The IMX has a 20% sprit and a 3sec Credit, d/l is around 165. I'm probably going to lose that 3sec credit with the new rules proposed for next year. It was 1st at the ONE against all A-boat last year in D2. Ryan Raber 207.841.7881 On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ryan, Locally they gave an adjustment to furlers, and gave the same credit to anyone w a furler, above deck, under deck, Melges, J-105, etc. And many people kept the credit even when they used a sail that didn't furl. Does Scapa have a sprit? How much did they adjust your handicap? Chuck From: Ryan Raber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45:45 AM Subject: Stus-List handicap for after market sprits Peat, This Email below is from my FH in NE but the implementation of the rule was delayed for public comment from our members. Essentially the new matrix adds three seconds to my old rating (IMX40) with the same configuration. There was an extensive study done that revealed asymmetrical spinnakers have been able to rotate further to Windward to allow deeper downwind angles then the initial rating system accounted for this?? Other members don't understand why boats that were built with Sprint are not penalized or adjusted the same as the boats with sprint added to them after-the-fact? Our PHRF region has two main groups one more competitive group in the Marblehead area and one less competitive group comprised of older vessels in Maine. The boats in MH are 70-80% AS in the race fleet. There are a group of older WELL maintained (Nelson Mrek,Frers, Taylor, and a newer 36.7 beny) that go SM and class 5/6 are SM. but all the big boats that are racing have purchase or converted their boat to AS. And of course all the new one design fleets are asymmetrical j70…. In Maine its SM except for the j/105’s and we have limited participation from a few AS Race boats Farr395, 1D35, Swan club 42… There are 2 conversion sprit boats participating in Maine next year IMX40 and a Farr43. I feel that asymmetrical is the way of the future easier to sail and more fun. go at least 20% or their pain to jibe. The new matrix proposed is provided in the table below: D/L=(dis (lbs.)/2240)/((0.01*WLL(ft))3) %=J*X for sprint length # are adjustment to your rating D/L bow 10% 20% 30% 220 9 6 3 0 150-220 6 3 0 -3 100-150 3 0 -3 -6 100 0 -3 -6 -9 Good morning Ryan Yes, I was there and a new rule has been passed for 2015. The heart of the issue, as you probably already know, is that for a number of years boats which changed from a symmetrical spin to an asym were given a credit of up to 9 sec/mile. PHRFNE is finally recognizing that the credit was a mistake in some cases. I don't know how it will impact your handicap because I don't have access to the 2014 cert for your boat (I can access only those boats that were in the GMORA fleet in 2014). But the rule is essentially based on the ratio of your displacement to LWL. Then depending on that ratio and the length of your sprit relative to the J measurement, you may see a reduced spinnaker credit of 3, 6 or 9 sec/mile. By the way, the displacement used will be based on an empty boat and that number may not be what is on the boat's 2014 certificate. PHRFNE will be publishing, shortly, an explanation of the new rule in layman's terms so that you can understand what has transpired. I recognize that the above has probably created more questions than answers but more will follow soon. Ryan Raber 207.841.7881 r...@fvprovidian.net ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences,
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Stus-List All messages coming thru with subect and no body
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Re: Stus-List Annual rope sale at WestMarine
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Kevin: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yRkEzZTl5QjJyczA/edit On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Last year they only offered 25%. I hope they got the message that selling at Defender's every day price is not a big deal. Kevin, Can't find that chart in my emails. If I do I'll send it. Joel On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Could someone send me a link to the practical sailor article where they tested all the running rigging and had that handy chart? I can't seem to find it. A date on the issue is fine since I am a subscriber. Thanks, Kevin On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 5:49:59 AM PME via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226; rn=428action=show_detail ___ Hi, I thought I would pass along that WestMarine is having a one day 40% off bulk rope sale tomorrow January 23. This is good both in store and online. Good time to replace a ratty line. - Paul E. 1981 CC Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Donation Line
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Re: Stus-List Donation Line
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Re: Stus-List Donation Line
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Re: Stus-List All messages coming thru with subect and no body
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Re: Stus-List Rudder removal - AKA What I don't know...
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Dave, The cap (donut) in the cockpit hold the rudder shaft in the boat. There are two set screws that must be loosened first. Turning it counterclockwise will lower the rudder. It's a lot easier to do without any tension on the rudder shaft. I use a small hydraulic jack and some timbers to take the pressure off. The quadrant bolts can be a bear. I've had my rudder out three times now. Anti-seize is a wonderful thing. Jake -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Rudder removal - AKA What I don't know... This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=sho w_detail ___ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rudder removal
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ After removing the bolts holding the cap, check to make sure there aren't set screws inside the threaded holes. The cap should unscrew easily. My shaft has a threaded hole in which I can screw in an eye bolt. It allows me to attach a line to the shaft for support, while adjusting the cap. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR So, I got a little further towards removing the hull today but no joy at the end of the day. We were held up trying to removed the bolts holding the quadrant on due to standard stainless bolts in aluminum thread issues. Once we got that sorted out near the end of the day we found that we couldn’t drop the rudder shaft. We loosened the two set screws (bolts really…) and tried to unscrew the stainless steel cap at the top of the shaft in the cockpit sole with the thought that this is what holds the assembly in place. We didn’t have much luck with that initially and started in on the “don’t force it, get a bigger rock!” theory of mechanics. We have unscrewed it a bit but I’d like to make sure that I am moving in the right direction. And not totally f’ing things up as is my wont. So my question to list is: Am I correct in thinking that the cap is screwed on? Has anyone done this on a circa early 80’s CC rudder shaft? Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit - Original Message - Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CnC-List digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Annual rope sale at WestMarine (Josh Muckley) 2. Re: All messages coming thru with subect and no body (Wally Bryant) 3. Re: All messages coming thru with subect and no body (Wally Bryant) 4. Donation Line (Tom Buscaglia) 5. Rudder removal - AKA What I don't know... (Dave Godwin) 6. Re: CC 30 one design (jtsails) 7. Re: CC 30 one design (Gary Nylander) 8. contributions (andrew rothweiler) ___ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ It's hard to weed your question out of all the nested quotes, but you may just have the wrong keyboard selected on your computer. I normally just see that weird stuff in people's quotes, and I'm set to Canadian English/US standard. I think. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 22 January 2015 at 15:35, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Is everybody else getting a bunch of symbols in their emails? The one below has an - a with a carot on top, followed by a euro sign and a trademark symbol and a small s - all in the place that a single quote should be. Gary - Original Message - *From:* jtsails via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:24 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ -- Not sure I would say that this particular boat is in the realm of racer/cruiser that our old CC’s were. It is used as a racer/daysailer only. Very optimized for racing and extremely well equipped and crewed. Their team has raced together for a number of years and are very good. Owned by friends of mine. They finally got enough wind today to do well against the Farr 280’s and are expecting a good day tomorrow too. James Taylor S/V Delaney 1976 CC 38 Oriental, NC *From:* Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55 PM *To:* Jerome Tauber jrtau...@aol.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ -- Wow, the J-122, a racer/crusier like CC used to stand for, is doing well against the all carbon sport boats. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:07:29 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Well the CC 30 One Design has not been doing well. To be fair, the driver is an amateur up against some pros and he has beaten some Farr 280's on time but not on handicap. See current results to date below. Jerry CC27 MKV. JJ. PHRF_Triple_ToD_2_ToT Division PHRF 1 1. GBR 007 Red Farr 280 Joe Woods 1 1 2 2 1 3 3 4 17.0 2. USA 52939 Teamwork J 122 Robin Team 3 6 3 7 6 1 1 1 28.0 3. USA 006 Decision Farr 280 Stephen Murray 2 4 1 5 2 5 5 7 31.0 4. USA 41 Rhumb Punch Farr 30 John Edwards 4 2 5 8 3 4 4 3 33.0 5. USA 52902 El Ocaso J 122 Richard Wesslund 5 7 8 1 7 2 2 2 34.0 6. USA 005 D I E S E L Farr 280Tate Russack 8 3 4 4 4 6 6 5 40.0 7. USA 001 Ragin' Farr 280 Bob Moran 6 5 7 3 5 9/DNS 9/DNS 9/DNS 53.0 8. USA 30002 SALT CC 30 Oleksandr Ivanov 7 8 6 6 8 7 7 6 55.0 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tue, Jan 20, 2015 3:29 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design That was definitely not a 30-2 (no folding
Re: Stus-List All messages coming thru with subect and no body
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ You sure? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 22 January 2015 at 15:07, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226; rn=428action=show_detail ___ OKAY, I GOT IT. everybody wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ I passed on the comments below to an old sailing buddy of mine who lives in Kingston simply as an FYI. He responded as follows: As a city resident, I agree with the city hall moves so far. Instead of writing to politicians, tell your friends to send money!” Hmmm…. Rich Knowles INDIGO LF38 Halifax, NS. On Jan 20, 2015, at 07:26, Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm not sure how effective it might be, but dropping a quick email to the Mayor and the seven councillors who voted against the motion to acquire the property from the Federal government upon which the museum sits would be greatly appreciated. I think it is important to remind them that the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston has a much broader constituency than just Kingston. Emails from far afield might emphasise that. The New Age of Sail exhibit, the founding of the Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame, and the preservation of the history of recreational sailing in Canada and the Great Lakes are all initiatives in which the Marine Museum has been involved. Just letting them know that the whole world is watching might be very beneficial! Rob Mayor Brian Paterson: bpater...@cityofkingston.ca mailto:bpater...@cityofkingston.ca Peter Stroud: pstr...@cityofkingston.ca mailto:pstr...@cityofkingston.ca Jeff McLaren: jmcla...@cityofkingston.ca mailto:jmcla...@cityofkingston.ca Liz Schell: lsch...@cityofkingston.ca mailto:lsch...@cityofkingston.ca Rob Hutchinson: rhutchin...@cityofkingston.ca mailto:rhutchin...@cityofkingston.ca Lisa Osanic: losa...@cityofkingston.ca mailto:losa...@cityofkingston.ca Kevin George: kgeo...@cityofkingston.ca mailto:kgeo...@cityofkingston.ca Ryan Boehme: rboe...@cityofkingston.ca mailto:rboe...@cityofkingston.ca On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com mailto:bushma...@aol.com wrote: Rob, is there anything we can do as an organization? Obviously, a large portion of us are south of the border, but we want to see the museum be successful in this as well as our Canadian brethren; what would you recommend? Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 tel:502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com mailto:hhallgr...@icloud.com Cc: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 7:46 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Kingston Marine Museum in danger Harry, Pdfs of all drawings can be obtained from the Museum Curator, Sandrena Raymond, at (cura...@marmuseum.ca mailto:cura...@marmuseum.ca). Let's hope that the drawings will still be available for many years to come. However, all Canadians should drop a note to their Conservative MPs, if they want to help. Rob On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com mailto:hhallgr...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Rob, Truly a critical period in the history of the museum...wish i could write a huge check! Fearing losing forever the opportunity to acquire the drawings for MIRAGE, i would like to initiate the process buy them. She is a 1985 CC Northeast 39 built in the Bruckman yard. Would you be able to point me in the right direction to get this rolling? Harry Hallgring Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Jim, Thanks for letting everyone know about this. As you might know, I serve on the Board of Trustees of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston, and I was the co-curator of the New Age of Sail exhibit at the Museum last year, one of the high points of which was inducting George Cuthbertson and Bruce Kirby into the Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame. Your attached piece by Mr. Granatstein is quite accurate. The Marine Museum is facing extinction if the Federal Government doesn't change its mind and hangs on to this historic piece of waterfront property, or if they don't work more closely with the City of Kingston to help them acquire the land. Otherwise it will be sold to private developers who will evict the Museum to build more condos. The Museum does not have enough money to finance a relocation, even if a suitable location was available. Yes, please write your MPs, especially the Conservative ones. This is very serious stuff. The Museum holds the entire CC Collection of drawings, as well as drawings from German and Milne, and many other prominent Canadian Naval Architects and shipbuilders. Rob Mazza On Mon, Jan 19,
Re: Stus-List Annual rope sale at WestMarine
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ySGpOTUdGRW9xdzQ/edit The chart isn't the whole story. The graph really helps with finding the best value for the size rope you're looking for. I usually find that Yale Crystaline or Sampson Warpspeed have the best dollar to stretch ratios... Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Jan 22, 2015 11:59 AM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Could someone send me a link to the practical sailor article where they tested all the running rigging and had that handy chart? I can't seem to find it. A date on the issue is fine since I am a subscriber. Thanks, Kevin On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 5:49:59 AM PME via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226; rn=428action=show_detail ___ Hi, I thought I would pass along that WestMarine is having a one day 40% off bulk rope sale tomorrow January 23. This is good both in store and online. Good time to replace a ratty line. - Paul E. 1981 CC Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Donation Line
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Andrew — I try to make a habit of PayPal’ing hime every month or so. Just send it to his Stu’s List email. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stu, can you deal with a US cheque? Andy ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Wow, the J-122, a racer/crusier like CC used to stand for, is doing well against the all carbon sport boats. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:07:29 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Well the CC 30 One Design has not been doing well. To be fair, the driver is an amateur up against some pros and he has beaten some Farr 280's on time but not on handicap. See current results to date below. Jerry CC27 MKV. JJ. PHRF_Triple_ToD_2_ToT Division PHRF 1 1. GBR 007 Red Farr 280 Joe Woods 1 1 2 2 1 3 3 4 17.0 2. USA 52939 Teamwork J 122 Robin Team 3 6 3 7 6 1 1 1 28.0 3. USA 006 Decision Farr 280 Stephen Murray 2 4 1 5 2 5 5 7 31.0 4. USA 41 Rhumb Punch Farr 30 John Edwards 4 2 5 8 3 4 4 3 33.0 5. USA 52902 El Ocaso J 122 Richard Wesslund 5 7 8 1 7 2 2 2 34.0 6. USA 005 D I E S E L Farr 280 Tate Russack 8 3 4 4 4 6 6 5 40.0 7. USA 001 Ragin' Farr 280 Bob Moran 6 5 7 3 5 9/DNS 9/DNS 9/DNS 53.0 8. USA 30002 SALT CC 30 Oleksandr Ivanov 7 8 6 6 8 7 7 6 55.0 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tue, Jan 20, 2015 3:29 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design That was definitely not a 30-2 (no folding gate in the transom), I'd say the ID as a 29-1 is correct. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 12:20, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yes, but that was a 30-2. Does it count? Gary 30-1 blockquote - Original Message - From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List To: Curtis ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week: http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds, but I'm not betting on it. McConahay just announced a 30, plus there are Farrs and Seascapes, just to name a few, to fragment a small market. Then there is the J monster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote So right Gary. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote ZZC- 30- 671- M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [ cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [ cnc-list@cnc-list.com ] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . /blockquote -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from
Stus-List Rudder removal - AKA What I don't know...
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ So, I got a little further towards removing the hull today but no joy at the end of the day. We were held up trying to removed the bolts holding the quadrant on due to standard stainless bolts in aluminum thread issues. Once we got that sorted out near the end of the day we found that we couldn’t drop the rudder shaft. We loosened the two set screws (bolts really…) and tried to unscrew the stainless steel cap at the top of the shaft in the cockpit sole with the thought that this is what holds the assembly in place. We didn’t have much luck with that initially and started in on the “don’t force it, get a bigger rock!” theory of mechanics. We have unscrewed it a bit but I’d like to make sure that I am moving in the right direction. And not totally f’ing things up as is my wont. So my question to list is: Am I correct in thinking that the cap is screwed on? Has anyone done this on a circa early 80’s CC rudder shaft? Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Is everybody else getting a bunch of symbols in their emails? The one below has an - a with a carot on top, followed by a euro sign and a trademark symbol and a small s - all in the place that a single quote should be. Gary - Original Message - From: jtsails via CnC-List To: Chuck S ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ -- Not sure I would say that this particular boat is in the realm of racer/cruiser that our old CCâ?Ts were. It is used as a racer/daysailer only. Very optimized for racing and extremely well equipped and crewed. Their team has raced together for a number of years and are very good. Owned by friends of mine. They finally got enough wind today to do well against the Farr 280â?Ts and are expecting a good day tomorrow too. James Taylor S/V Delaney 1976 CC 38 Oriental, NC From: Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55 PM To: Jerome Tauber ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ -- Wow, the J-122, a racer/crusier like CC used to stand for, is doing well against the all carbon sport boats. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- From: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:07:29 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Well the CC 30 One Design has not been doing well. To be fair, the driver is an amateur up against some pros and he has beaten some Farr 280's on time but not on handicap. See current results to date below. Jerry CC27 MKV. JJ. PHRF_Triple_ToD_2_ToT Division PHRF 1 1. GBR 007 Red Farr 280 Joe Woods 1 1 2 2 1 3 3 4 17.0 2. USA 52939 Teamwork J 122 Robin Team 3 6 3 7 6 1 1 1 28.0 3. USA 006 Decision Farr 280 Stephen Murray 2 4 1 5 2 5 5 7 31.0 4. USA 41 Rhumb Punch Farr 30 John Edwards4 2 5 8 3 4 4 3 33.0 5. USA 52902 El Ocaso J 122 Richard Wesslund 5 7 8 1 7 2 2 2 34.0 6. USA 005 D I E S E L Farr 280Tate Russack 8 3 4 4 4 6 6 5 40.0 7. USA 001 Ragin' Farr 280 Bob Moran 6 5 7 3 5 9/DNS 9/DNS 9/DNS 53.0 8. USA 30002 SALT CC 30 Oleksandr Ivanov 7 8 6 6 8 7 7 6 55.0 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tue, Jan 20, 2015 3:29 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design That was definitely not a 30-2 (no folding gate in the transom), I'd say the ID as a 29-1 is correct. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 12:20, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yes, but that was a 30-2. Does it count? Gary 30-1 - Original Message - From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List To: Curtis ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Sadly, one
Re: Stus-List All messages coming thru with subect and no body
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Re: Stus-List Test Email from Stu -- just delete it
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Hey, Stu...how come the donation bar is showing up at the top of messages now? It makes reading them a little more difficult, especially for the comprehension challenged like myself. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 22 January 2015 at 08:04, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: font size=1 color=blueThis list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at:a href= http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail Support/a/font ___ Test ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:a href= http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.comChange preferences/a ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annual rope sale at WestMarine
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Could someone send me a link to the practical sailor article where they tested all the running rigging and had that handy chart? I can't seem to find it. A date on the issue is fine since I am a subscriber. Thanks, Kevin On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 5:49:59 AM PME via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226; rn=428action=show_detail ___ Hi, I thought I would pass along that WestMarine is having a one day 40% off bulk rope sale tomorrow January 23. This is good both in store and online. Good time to replace a ratty line. - Paul E. 1981 CC Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annual rope sale at WestMarine
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Thanks. Last year they only offered 25%. I hope they got the message that selling at Defender's every day price is not a big deal. Kevin, Can't find that chart in my emails. If I do I'll send it. Joel On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Could someone send me a link to the practical sailor article where they tested all the running rigging and had that handy chart? I can't seem to find it. A date on the issue is fine since I am a subscriber. Thanks, Kevin On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 5:49:59 AM PME via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226; rn=428action=show_detail ___ Hi, I thought I would pass along that WestMarine is having a one day 40% off bulk rope sale tomorrow January 23. This is good both in store and online. Good time to replace a ratty line. - Paul E. 1981 CC Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design
This list is provided by the CC Photo Album and is free to subscribed members. Please help us keep it free by donating today at: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226rn=428action=show_detail ___ Well the CC 30 One Design has not been doing well. To be fair, the driver is an amateur up against some pros and he has beaten some Farr 280's on time but not on handicap. See current results to date below. Jerry CC27 MKV. JJ. PHRF_Triple_ToD_2_ToT Division PHRF 1 1. GBR 007 Red Farr 280 Joe Woods 1 1 2 2 1 3 3 4 17.0 2. USA 52939 Teamwork J 122 Robin Team 3 6 3 7 6 1 1 1 28.0 3. USA 006 Decision Farr 280 Stephen Murray 2 4 1 5 2 5 5 7 31.0 4. USA 41 Rhumb Punch Farr 30 John Edwards4 2 5 8 3 4 4 3 33.0 5. USA 52902 El Ocaso J 122 Richard Wesslund 5 7 8 1 7 2 2 2 34.0 6. USA 005 D I E S E L Farr 280Tate Russack 8 3 4 4 4 6 6 5 40.0 7. USA 001 Ragin' Farr 280 Bob Moran 6 5 7 3 5 9/DNS 9/DNS 9/DNS 53.0 8. USA 30002 SALT CC 30 Oleksandr Ivanov 7 8 6 6 8 7 7 6 55.0 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tue, Jan 20, 2015 3:29 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design That was definitely not a 30-2 (no folding gate in the transom), I'd say the ID as a 29-1 is correct. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 January 2015 at 12:20, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yes, but that was a 30-2. Does it count? Gary 30-1 - Original Message - From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List To: Curtis ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Sadly, one 30 was lost in a fire last week: http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ph-ac-cn-boat-fire-0119-20150118,0,5318626.story The new 30s are a rich man's toy. If anyone in Annapolis wants to write a check for $150k to buy one I'll bring the beer! I hope they sell hundreds, but I'm not betting on it. McConahay just announced a 30, plus there are Farrs and Seascapes, just to name a few, to fragment a small market. Then there is the J monster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: So right Gary. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote: ZZC-30-671-M81- E What do they mean? On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls 1 - 506 and 507+. The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately Mike ___ From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: January 20, 2015 1:07 AM To: Curtis; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made? Always wondered. I heard it was over 300. Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more
