Stus-List message management

[Blair Clark via CnC-List]

Hello,


A while ago I saw a description on how to set up a folder in Hotmail on how to 
automatically have all incoming

stu list emails go to a separate folder.


Can someone share with me how to do this?


Thanks

Blair Clark 902-423-4651








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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 122, Issue 42

[Brian Fry via CnC-List]

La Neige, a 37/40 XL has an access cover in the head. It is one of those
hinged plastic rectangular shaped hatches. Highly recommend at least this,
as I couldn't have accessed the mounts to replace them. Also allows access
to raw water pump and starter (still have to remove starter to get the pump
out though.)
I' will post pics next time I get aboard (maybe tomorrow). It was installed
by previous owner. I would recommend larger if you can find one.
Mine looks like this one, but black:
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/bomar--inspection-hatch-7-x-11-black--226873
 I'll get the dimensions  with the pics.


>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:43:44 -0400
> From: Edd Schillay 
> To: C List 
> Subject: Stus-List 37+ (or R or XL) Engine Access
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> To the Listers with 37+?s, R?s, or XL?s,
>
> I had an idea to add a hatch in the head to provide access to the other
> side of the engine (starter, alternator wires, etc.)  Have any of you done
> this? If so, could you send photos?
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>

-- 
Brian Fry
S/V La Neige
1993 C 37/40XL
HdG Maryland
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Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Josh Muckley)

[Brian Fry via CnC-List]

For starters I reply with a variety of devices and they don't all work the
same, some are easier than others.

The fact that I am replying to a digest, instead of just one message in the
digest, causes the subject header to be the Vol and Issue of the digest. I
can't reply to just one message in the digest. If there was a way to do
that it would go a long way to fixing the problem. It could also help if it
only brought over the individual Message being replied to, instead of every
message in the Digest issue. That would eliminate the mistake of not
stripping out the unnecessary messages.

When I choose 'reply' the subject line doesn't even appear, so it is not
'in my face' reminding me to change it. I have to drop down the subject
header to see it and then change it. Not sure if there is a setting in
gmail to change that, I will have to look.

On the other hand, I think it is more of a hassle having to scroll and scan
thru all of the messages to find the one I want to read. If one could click
on the relevant subject at the top of the digest and have it take you down
the page to the message you wanted it would save much more time than having
read a subject line that said Re: VolXXX Issue aaa.



Message: 4
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:26:05 -0400
From: Josh Muckley 
To: "C List" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ &
Melody)
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Brian,

I approached someone else off list as to why/how this happens.  Can you
possibly give some insights?  If there was legitimately something simple
that could be done on the server side?  I considered that maybe renaming
the digest subject to include "DO NOT REPLY" would help?  I've also thought
that simply having a server rule that rejects all mail with the word DIGEST
in the subject line?

I guess I've never had a problem so I don't understand what's causing the
problem.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


-- 
Brian Fry
S/V La Neige
1993 C 37/40XL
HdG Maryland
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Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Guilty as charged.  Maybe Infamously would be more appropriate.

I think we tend to feel that we have to fix these boats to factory standards 
when we get them, but in reality as they get older, they get more customized, 
which is not a bad thing. I don’t think anyone would want to replace  their 
traveler with an original Schaffer Traveler when you could have a nice Harken 
instead – 

Back in the early eighties I was re-doing C rudders locally for a number of 
models, as it became widely understood that more control was needed, and they 
were modified to be less wide but deeper. By that, I mean just taking the 
original rudders, and cutting the framework off and welding new foils on, 
narrower and deeper, nothing else on my part. Interestingly, my father was 
sailing on a C 39 at the time, owned by an even older curmudgeon (my dad was 
NOT a curmudgeon)  who was in the market for a new rudder.  I offered to my dad 
that I would do Mearl’s  for free, and he declined, saying that “if anything at 
all was not right, he would never hear the end of it.”   Fast forward 18 years, 
I am now the owner of that very same 39, hauling it out in October to find I 
was missing nearly half that rudder that had been rebuilt at Bruckman’s.  I 
rebuilt it in 14 Gauge SS skin and moved the shaft back 2 ½” for better 
balance. A few years later I removed it and cut the corners off and made it 
elliptical, just because in my mind it seemed a less turbulent shape.  It is 
completely neutral in weight.  On  high to low reaches I can take my hands off 
and it sails itself.  And sorry,  no, I am not interested in making any, just 
mentioning this as another option. In my mind, an epoxy (or Polyester) to SS 
joint is eventually going to leak, they just do not stick to each other very 
well.

Another on/off lister from Toronto/BC had Bob Perry do him a design for a 39 
which looked sweet.  That rudder snapped off at the exit point,  (no reflection 
on Perry) so there is no need in my mentioning who fabricated that one.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:27 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement

 

I friend of mine took his rudder home over the winter, cut a skin off, scooped 
all the rotten foam out, refilled it with an epoxy-microballon mix, and glued 
the skin back on. YMMV, no idea if this is the best way, but it was cheap.

Also someone famously made an all-stainless rudder.

 

Joe

Coquina

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John Pennie 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:22 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Pennie
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement

 

When I was working with Rob on the 51, he freely admitted that rudder design 
back then was more art than science.  That's not to say slap anything on but I 
wouldn't feel obliged to duplicate your existing rudder to perfection if the 
mold isn't available.

 

On the post and structure inside the rudder you really won't know until the 
skins are removed and you get to see it.  Hopefully all is fine but given your 
comments...  Who knows, maybe you get to have the fun of deciding on a 
stainless vs. Carbon post! Is there a local designer you can speak with or a 
yard that frequently handles such work?

 

Good luck and sorry to hear of the problem.

 

John

 

 

 

 



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On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Brian Fry via CnC-List  
wrote:

Rudder is in need of major repair. Got a quote for a replacement for less than 
a repair, but not an exact copy (they don't have a mold). Also 2/3 the cost of 
having a mold made and then a replacement made from that.

I had drilled a dozen  holes to drain water over the winter to avoid freeze 
expansion causing more damage. Found many of the holes drilled had just voids 
behind them, no foam, others had a gritty white material that was saturated 
with water. Saw pictures here and elsewhere of same rudder repair needed.

 

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:21:42 -0400
From: John Pennie 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement
Message-ID: <2c82d7c8-8e02-4d7f-aec5-d405a536d...@svpaws.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I seriously considered this on my 51.  Even had Rob design the new rudder.  In 
the end I decided that I couldn't justify the cost.

Why are you looking to change?

John

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Re: Stus-List Birth of a Mega Putt Putt

[airdale143--- via CnC-List]

not any more, but it sure does look like fun when u a near 70.  It seems nice 
to just putt around and not have to worry about the working of a mast, sails, 
winches, etc etc.  Of course it would mean no more adventures out to sea but 
that is ok at 70

-- Original Message --
From: dwight veinot via CnC-List 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: dwight veinot 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Birth of a Mega Putt Putt
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:43:44 -0300


so that's not a sailboat, is it???Dwight VeinotC 35 MKII, AliannaHead of St. 
Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net 
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:20 PM, airdale143--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
How does one contact Gerry?

-- Original Message --
From: Stu via CnC-List 
To: "C Email List" 
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List Birth of a Mega Putt Putt
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 10:26:22 -0500

Gerry Giles has just completed his conversion of a C Mega to what he calls a 
ââ¬ÅMega Putt Puttâ⬠. This is not the first time a 
Mega has been converted ââ¬â in fact we are still looking 
for the original. See what Gerry has done at:  
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/other/mega_putt_putt/Â Stu



nowbuzzing
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Re: Stus-List 37+ (or R or XL) Engine Access

[allen via CnC-List]

I'd like to see pics too.  Clearance is tight on 30-2 and hatch access from 
head is something I would like to do too.

Allen Miles
S/v Septima  30-2
Hampton, VA


From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 7:44 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton ; Peter Patterson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ (or R or XL) Engine Access


Hello David, 


I'd like to see the photos and measurements too if you don't mind.  We were 
planning to do this soon.


Our boat was re powered in 2000 with a different model of Yanmar and some 
components (such as the raw water pump impeller) would be much more easily 
accessed with a water proof hatch through the shower stall wall. 


Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia


http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/


On 16 March 2016 at 20:58, djmocny via CnC-List  wrote:

  Edd,  ours was done by the PO.  I will take photos and get measurements for 
you.  Will email this weekend or sooner.


  David Mocny
  37/40+
  Obsession


   Original message 
  From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
  Date: 03/16/2016 2:43 PM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: C List  
  Cc: Edd Schillay  
  Subject: Stus-List 37+ (or R or XL) Engine Access 

  To the Listers with 37+’s, R’s, or XL’s,  


  I had an idea to add a hatch in the head to provide access to the other side 
of the engine (starter, alternator wires, etc.)  Have any of you done this? If 
so, could you send photos? 



  All the best,


  Edd




  Edd M. Schillay
  Starship Enterprise
  C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
  City Island, NY 
  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log















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Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ & Melody)

[Brian Fry via CnC-List]

Guilty as charged, again.
My sincere apologies. Sorry to offend anyone for my shortcomings. I am
trying my best, but after a long day wrestling with a Max prop I did manage
to get my return email address changed, put a signature line in the bottom,
and delete the threads that didn't apply. I missed the Subject line.
So yeah, Wow. It wasn't meant as a personal affront to anyone.



> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:16:47 -0700
> From: Russ & Melody 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>
> Change the subject line in your emails --   "Stus-List CnC-List
> Digest, Vol 122, Issue 2"  does not mean a dxxn thing.  Some
> subscribers have indicated that they just delete messages with that
> subject line instead of reading them.
>
> So, if you want your message read, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE!!!
>
> Stu
>
>


-- 
Brian Fry
S/V La Neige
1993 C 37/40XL
HdG Maryland
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Re: Stus-List Birth of a Mega Putt Putt

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

so that's not a sailboat, is it???

Dwight Veinot
C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:20 PM, airdale143--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> How does one contact Gerry?
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Stu via CnC-List 
> To: "C Email List" 
> Cc: Stu 
> Subject: Stus-List Birth of a Mega Putt Putt
> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 10:26:22 -0500
>
> Gerry Giles has just completed his conversion of a C Mega to what he
> calls a “Mega Putt Putt†.
>
> This is not the first time a Mega has been converted – in fact we are
> still looking for the original.
>
> See what Gerry has done at:
> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/other/mega_putt_putt/
> 
>
> Stu
>
>
>
> 
> *nowbuzzing*
> You Won’t Believe These Moments Caught on Camera
> 
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/56eb49f96ee2249f91e67st03duc
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Stus-List Gooseneck fitting

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

Given the vintage, it's probably made by Offshore Spars. They are real 
nice folks out of Chesterfield, Michigan. I replaced mine a couple years 
ago and the price is surprisingly reasonable. 

http://store.offshorespars.com/spar-parts/swivels/


Good Luck, 

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA



> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 18:56:17 -0400
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Gooseneck fitting
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> FYI my bolt was too short on the unthreaded portion and the threaded
> portion wore into the lower mast fitting.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Mar 12, 2016 12:22 PM, "Alan Liles via CnC-List" 

> wrote:
> 
>> Preparing to remove my rig, I found the gooseneck fitting (toggle?) 
worn
>> around the vertical pin. Where might I source a new one. The boat is a 
'94
>> 37/40+. I'm not sure of the manufacturer.
>> On another note, is there a way to search subjects in the list archive?
>> I'm sure this has come up before but I haven't found a way to retrieve 
the
>> thread.
>> 
>> Cheers, Al


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Re: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...

[jtsails via CnC-List]

Fred,
On my 38 Mk2, I opted for a 120% headsail with no foam. The smaller sail is 
easier to handle and still moves the boat very well. Plus, I rarely feel 
overpowered. Your boat is the same hull as mine, but your mast is a couple of 
feet shorter, so I would probably go about 125%. Even at 120%, it’s a large 
sail with a 20’ LP, 1000 square feet!
James
Delaney
1976 C 38
Oriental, NC

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...

I’m going to be ordering a new furling 135% headsail for my LF38, and would 
like everyone’s input on whether or not to pay the extra $$$ for a foam luff.  
In the past, I haven’t relied much on furling, knowing that regardless of the 
foam luff (or not), a furled sail’s shape isn’t going to be ideal. 

Thoughts?

— Fred




Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(





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Stus-List Fire blankets

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Any listers have a fire blanket onboard?

Ever had to use one or see one used?

Opinions?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List 37+ (or R or XL) Engine Access

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Hello David,

I'd like to see the photos and measurements too if you don't mind.  We were
planning to do this soon.

Our boat was re powered in 2000 with a different model of Yanmar and some
components (such as the raw water pump impeller) would be much more easily
accessed with a water proof hatch through the shower stall wall.

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/

On 16 March 2016 at 20:58, djmocny via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Edd,  ours was done by the PO.  I will take photos and get measurements
> for you.  Will email this weekend or sooner.
>
> David Mocny
> 37/40+
> Obsession
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Date: 03/16/2016 2:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: C List 
> Cc: Edd Schillay 
> Subject: Stus-List 37+ (or R or XL) Engine Access
>
> To the Listers with 37+’s, R’s, or XL’s,
>
> I had an idea to add a hatch in the head to provide access to the other
> side of the engine (starter, alternator wires, etc.)  Have any of you done
> this? If so, could you send photos?
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement

[Brian Fry via CnC-List]

Rudder is in need of major repair. Got a quote for a replacement for less
than a repair, but not an exact copy (they don't have a mold). Also 2/3 the
cost of having a mold made and then a replacement made from that.
I had drilled a dozen  holes to drain water over the winter to avoid freeze
expansion causing more damage. Found many of the holes drilled had just
voids behind them, no foam, others had a gritty white material that was
saturated with water. Saw pictures here and elsewhere of same rudder repair
needed.

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:21:42 -0400
From: John Pennie 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement
Message-ID: <2c82d7c8-8e02-4d7f-aec5-d405a536d...@svpaws.net>
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I seriously considered this on my 51.  Even had Rob design the new rudder.
In the end I decided that I couldn't justify the cost.

Why are you looking to change?

John
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Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

When I was working with Rob on the 51, he freely admitted that rudder design 
back then was more art than science.  That's not to say slap anything on but I 
wouldn't feel obliged to duplicate your existing rudder to perfection if the 
mold isn't available.

On the post and structure inside the rudder you really won't know until the 
skins are removed and you get to see it.  Hopefully all is fine but given your 
comments...  Who knows, maybe you get to have the fun of deciding on a 
stainless vs. Carbon post! Is there a local designer you can speak with or a 
yard that frequently handles such work?

Good luck and sorry to hear of the problem.

John






Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Brian Fry via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Rudder is in need of major repair. Got a quote for a replacement for less 
> than a repair, but not an exact copy (they don't have a mold). Also 2/3 the 
> cost of having a mold made and then a replacement made from that.
> I had drilled a dozen  holes to drain water over the winter to avoid freeze 
> expansion causing more damage. Found many of the holes drilled had just voids 
> behind them, no foam, others had a gritty white material that was saturated 
> with water. Saw pictures here and elsewhere of same rudder repair needed.
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:21:42 -0400
> From: John Pennie 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement
> Message-ID: <2c82d7c8-8e02-4d7f-aec5-d405a536d...@svpaws.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I seriously considered this on my 51.  Even had Rob design the new rudder.  
> In the end I decided that I couldn't justify the cost.
> 
> Why are you looking to change?
> 
> John
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Stus-List sleeper factor

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

“sleeper factor” is an interesting comment and touches a nerve with me.   The 
comment we get mostly is we have a “gift rating”.  Seems when we do well in 
races our rating is a gift.  However if we do poorly, we didn’t sail well.
Whatever.   I’m tired of other boats being sailed poorly and using gift rating 
as an excuse.  The never ending problems with PHRF, I guess.

 

Sorry for the rant.  Long week. 

 

-  Pete and his screaming, PHRF busting, 1984 straight up 37 

 

 

 

 

On 18 March 2016 at 10:15, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Same story with the 34+

..The "Sleeper" factor far outweighs the snob appeal of a bigger number on 
the badge any day in my book. 




 

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Re: Stus-List message management

[Blair Clark via CnC-List]

your advice works great I am in the process of a job search and being 
inundated with emails is not helping at least it is not on the acquiring a 
job activitymaybe it is in the distraction and becoming a more informed 
nautician []  area


Blair Clark 902-423-4651



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Marek Dziedzic 
(hotmail) via CnC-List 
Sent: March 18, 2016 11:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic (hotmail)
Subject: Re: Stus-List message management

Blair,

- create a folder in Hotmail. You can do it through the web interface or on 
your computer (using Outlook or Live Mail). I don't think Win 10 Mail would let 
you and for sure any of the Android Email apps won't.

- go to Hotmail using web interface (browser). The only way to set up rules is 
while you are online at Hotmail (Outlook.com)

- once you logged in, go to Settings (little cog wheel to the right of the 
Skype icon and to the left of your name). There is a "Manage rules" option 
there. Select it.

- You will have to create a new rule. press on "New".

- your new rule will have to be "If sender contains: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
then move to CnC" (where CnC is the name of the folder you created in step 1)

- you are done

- you may want to switch from digest to individual emails at cncphotoalbum

Marek

From: Blair Clark via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 09:58
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Blair Clark ; 
Dreuge
Subject: Stus-List message management


Hello,



A while ago I saw a description on how to set up a folder in Hotmail on how to 
automatically have all incoming

stu list emails go to a separate folder.



Can someone share with me how to do this?



Thanks

Blair Clark 902-423-4651








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Re: Stus-List List Management

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I would also suggest not using the digest unless you are on a radio link or 
cell phone link or something.
Most email programs have a way to organize via folders so you do not have to 
see all the list traffic live if you don’t want to.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:13 PM
To: C Email List
Cc: Stu
Subject: Stus-List List Management

I did not realize how many people were getting the postings in Digest Format 
until I checked the subscribers’ list.  There are quite a few and many of them 
are using Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail email addresses.

Maybe part of the problems with Gmail are that when replying to a message, it 
does not appear that you can trim the message or change the subject line.

After a bit of searching, I found the solution:
•  Log in to Google Mail using your username and password.
•  Click the mail conversation you want to reply to with an edited subject or 
to trim the message.
•  In the textbox with the message “Click here to Reply or Forward,” click 
“Reply.”
•  To the left of the name of the person you are replying to, click the 
dropdown arrow. A pop-up menu appears.
•  From the pop-up menu, click “Edit subject.” Gmail’s new compose/reply window 
will appear for you to type your reply.
•  To edit the subject, click the cursor into the subject field and make the 
desired changes.

I don’t know if Yahoo and Hotmail are the same or not.

There could be other web-based email programs that prevent changing the subject 
line or trimming messages.  Maybe one of our members can help out there.

I can’t change much in the list mailing software, but I have made some changes:
a) digests will be smaller is size – so you might get more than 1 a day 
depending on traffic on the list
b) the actual size of messages to be sent has been decreased.  So if you do not 
trim your messages, they may get rejected.

In a previous message, some one asked “Who cares?”.  The answer is ME!  I 
own, maintain and pay for the list.  So, when you are in my playground, you 
play by my rules.

Stu

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Stus-List Rudder replacement

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

In case this has not been mentioned already Southshore Yachts (
http://southshoreyachts.com/) out of Virgil, Ontario may have a brand new 
original rudder for your boat or have the original design..  It's pricey 
but it's the real thing and the job just becomes a part swap.. 

Good luck with it. 

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA

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Re: Stus-List Fire blankets

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

>… always put the fire out by blowing off an ABC Dry Chem extinguisher (and 
>likely making the interior of the boat unlivable).

Had to do this ( 2 dry chem extinguishers) to put out an alcohol stove fire 3 
days NE of Kauai on our way back to Seattle.  The dry chem added to the rough 
seas and increased the seasickness issues on board.  That C 39’s interior was 
not the same for months.

A blanket would have been useful.  If the supply hose had not burned off the 
fitting a little water may have been enough.  Fortunately someone on deck had 
closed the alcohol supply valve at the tank so the fountain of burning alcohol 
was limited to what was in the lines.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:18 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fire blankets

Around here you can pick one up at Home depot for $10.00 when on sale.  We keep 
one in the boat and also one in the kitchen at home.

Even if they are only effective on smaller stove top fires, I'd keep one handy 
and try it on small fires before going for the extinguisher.  A crew member can 
standby with the extinguisher.  If the fire blanket doesn't work you can always 
put the fire out by blowing off an ABC Dry Chem extinguisher (and likely making 
the interior of the boat unlivable).

There are a number of good (and many bad) Fire Blanket videos online, the 
better ones seem to be from the UK or Australia.

I've never needed to use on in anger.

Ken H.

On 18 March 2016 at 20:58, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Any listers have a fire blanket onboard?
Ever had to use one or see one used?
Opinions?
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

Whoops, re-read Bruno's earlier email and realize we are talking the 
same place.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2016-03-18 7:50 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List wrote:
It is possible to do a DIY job to a NACA profile, it just takes some 
time to plot the proper profiles out and use them as templates.  It 
was NOT a trivial DIY job though, be sure of your abilities first.


As Ken mentioned, I did rebuild mine.  It was saturated, and cracked 
during the winter.   When I pulled the skins off I was happy I'd 
decided to rebuild as the welds holding the frame to the post were 
dramatically corroded.  I had a new frame welded on, applied and 
shaped new foam, and put glass on top.  Very happy with the result.  I 
kept the same outline shape (in case anyone is thinking of turning me 
in to the PHRF folks...), but shaped it to NACA foils.  It was not 
shaped like that before.  Very happy with the results.


Within Canada there is also Competition Composites (AKA Phil's Foils) 
in Ottawa.  They will re-use the post if you want and will CNC cut the 
profile in the foam, so super accurate.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11
On 2016-03-18 4:46 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List wrote:
Doing the research about replacement/repair and different profiles of 
rudders i became quite obsessed with the importance of the design and 
precision of the profile (ref. NACA profiles).


So a DIY job was quickly out of question. The boat is not a 40 kts 
foiler but i do race the boat and wanted a nice rudder.


The small local yard quote was over 2500$ for a complete rebuild, 
that would have been very ok, but still an eyeball job. At this point 
i decided to go all the way crazy and give the job to the pros. Don't 
regret it, i almost cried when i opened the box it was so beutiful!


There is a lot of good info on their website, even a video of the 
fabrication process.


I have now a keel fairing job on my to do list, but not a priority at 
this point.


Bruno Lachance
C 33mkII 87' Bécassine
New-Richmond, Qc


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:55:22 -0300
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder replacement
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: amira...@bellaliant.net

Thanks for the info about your rudder replacement,Bruno. Good company 
to keep in mind if I ever need to do mine.  Better to deal with a 
Canadian company with our dollar being so low right now.

Mike Amirault
C Lovely Cruise
SMSC St Margarets Bay, NS

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Stus-List More reading for a rainy day

[Stu via CnC-List]

I just added a couple more interesting articles for rainy reading:

Keel Repair on 1976 38 ft Liberty
http://mailtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGV4AwNmZmR5BQpzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9ZwH2ZGDjBGp1Way2LKu2pG04BGR2ZmL0ZwD0ZD

C The Committee and the Corporate Boat
http://mailtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGV4AwNmZmR5BQpzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9ZwH2ZGDjBGp1Way2LKu2pG04BGR2ZmL0ZwD5CN

Who know what else I will find?

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Re: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

Have to agree.  For my area, I’ve been a huge fan of 120 + main for cruising.  
On a landfall the 135 may be the better option and I would probably pass on 
either foam or rope. I’m basing that on the assumption that the landfall will 
reef later than most but I’ve never sailed one so don’t really know.  At 150 I 
would definitely go with something to take up the extra fabric but would let 
the sailmaker decide between the two options.  Both work well so it’s whatever 
they’re more comfortable with.

Just another $0.02

John


> On Mar 17, 2016, at 8:43 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> get the foam luff if you intend to sail with the jib
> furled...otherwise get a 110% and enjoy sailing
> Dwight Veinot
> C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List
>  wrote:
>> I’m going to be ordering a new furling 135% headsail for my LF38, and would
>> like everyone’s input on whether or not to pay the extra $$$ for a foam
>> luff.  In the past, I haven’t relied much on furling, knowing that
>> regardless of the foam luff (or not), a furled sail’s shape isn’t going to
>> be ideal.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> — Fred
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Change the subject line in your emails --   "Stus-List CnC-List 
Digest, Vol 122, Issue 2"  does not mean a dxxn thing.  Some 
subscribers have indicated that they just delete messages with that 
subject line instead of reading them.


So, if you want your message read, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE!!!

Stu


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Re: Stus-List masthead sheaves

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Jason,

Is it a brass sheave about 1 1/2" OD x 3/4" W?  I may have one.

If so, reply off list.

Dennis C.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Jason Ward via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> I am looking for another masthead sheave for my lf38.  I have the
> wire/rope sheaves and would like to stay with that system.  Does anyone
> know where you can source them.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
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Stus-List Docks are in!

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Dropped by my club today at noon and my finger pier is now in and waiting for 
me!  This is over one full month ahead of last year

Guess I had better get busy

Mike
Persistence
Halifax
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Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Josh Muckley)

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

How to reply to C emails using gmail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqKEJTjgNLE

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Brian,
>
> As you are using Gmail, try this, it may help.
>
> Got to Gmail Settings, Setting (the little "gear" top right on a browser)
>
> Go to the "Labs" tab (third from the right across the top).
>
> Search for a lab:
>
> Quote selected text
> Ryan A
>
> Quote the text you have selected when you reply to a message. (Now works
> with the mouse too!)
>
>
> Enable it and see if that helps with replies from the Digest.
>
> Unfortunately you'll still have to edit the subject line, this wont' help
> with that.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 18 March 2016 at 09:59, Brian Fry via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> For starters I reply with a variety of devices and they don't all work
>> the same, some are easier than others.
>>
>> The fact that I am replying to a digest, instead of just one message in
>> the digest, causes the subject header to be the Vol and Issue of the
>> digest. I can't reply to just one message in the digest. If there was a way
>> to do that it would go a long way to fixing the problem. It could also help
>> if it only brought over the individual Message being replied to, instead of
>> every message in the Digest issue. That would eliminate the mistake of not
>> stripping out the unnecessary messages.
>>
>> When I choose 'reply' the subject line doesn't even appear, so it is not
>> 'in my face' reminding me to change it. I have to drop down the subject
>> header to see it and then change it. Not sure if there is a setting in
>> gmail to change that, I will have to look.
>>
>> On the other hand, I think it is more of a hassle having to scroll and
>> scan thru all of the messages to find the one I want to read. If one could
>> click on the relevant subject at the top of the digest and have it take you
>> down the page to the message you wanted it would save much more time than
>> having read a subject line that said Re: VolXXX Issue aaa.
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:26:05 -0400
>> From: Josh Muckley 
>> To: "C List" 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ &
>> Melody)
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> ca+zacrdfk5nxzzgpe-ul2hshoudgay5jmkz1zeutlthc-om...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>> I approached someone else off list as to why/how this happens.  Can you
>> possibly give some insights?  If there was legitimately something simple
>> that could be done on the server side?  I considered that maybe renaming
>> the digest subject to include "DO NOT REPLY" would help?  I've also
>> thought
>> that simply having a server rule that rejects all mail with the word
>> DIGEST
>> in the subject line?
>>
>> I guess I've never had a problem so I don't understand what's causing the
>> problem.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian Fry
>> S/V La Neige
>> 1993 C 37/40XL
>> HdG Maryland
>>
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Re: Stus-List message management

[Sailnomad via CnC-List]

Thai usually called a "Filter" in Gmail they also have "labels"
Here is a good reference:
http://email.about.com/od/windowslivehotmailtips/qt/How_to_Set_Up_an_Incoming_Mail_Filter_in_Windows_Live_Hotmai.htm

Ahmet
Tabasco 25CC Hull Id 5
Winthrop, MA


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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> A while ago I saw a description on how to set up a folder in Hotmail on
> how to automatically have all incoming
>
> stu list emails go to a separate folder.
>
>
> Can someone share with me how to do this?
>
>
> Thanks
> Blair Clark 902-423-4651
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Re: Stus-List masthead sheaves

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Or by some Double Braid with a Spectra or Dyneema core and strip and taper the 
cover to approximate the length of wire?
Chuck Gilchrest
Orion
LF 35
Padanaram MA

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> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just a thought, but why not splice some dyneema to a rope for your halyard? 
> You could use same sheaves and have a halyard that is lighter, cheaper, 
> corrosion free, etc. I am hoping to replace the last wire halyard on our boat 
> like this when I get a chance
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016, 5:56 AM mike amirault via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Usually, all that is needed to refurbish these sheaves is to press out and 
>> replace the oilite bronze bushing, widely available at auto parts stores or 
>> bearing suppliers. I did all my masthead sheaves a few years ago, got the 
>> bushings at Princess Auto.
>>  
>> Mike Amirault
>> C Lovely Cruise
>> St Margarets Bay, NS
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Re: Stus-List Fire blankets

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Around here you can pick one up at Home depot for $10.00 when on sale.  We
keep one in the boat and also one in the kitchen at home.

Even if they are only effective on smaller stove top fires, I'd keep one
handy and try it on small fires before going for the extinguisher.  A crew
member can standby with the extinguisher.  If the fire blanket doesn't work
you can always put the fire out by blowing off an ABC Dry Chem extinguisher
(and likely making the interior of the boat unlivable).

There are a number of good (and many bad) Fire Blanket videos online, the
better ones seem to be from the UK or Australia.

I've never needed to use on in anger.

Ken H.

On 18 March 2016 at 20:58, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Any listers have a fire blanket onboard?
>
> Ever had to use one or see one used?
>
> Opinions?
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> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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