Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I would suggest this reading:
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/installing_a_smart_plug
I think it is pretty convincing...

Marek

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Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2017 17:50
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Subject: Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet


In my opinion, the smartplug is a far superior product.  And easy to install.

Graham Collins

Secret Plans

C 35-III #11
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Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

[G Collins via CnC-List]

In my opinion, the smartplug is a far superior product.  And easy to install.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2017-02-09 1:29 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List wrote:
The Marinco contacts on my boat inlet were burned.  I replaced the inlet with a 
Smart inlet, using the same boat wiring.  Then I replaced one end of my power 
cable with the Smart plug.  I didn't have to replace the other end of the power 
cable.  However, you can buy a new cable with the Smart plug already attached, 
and then just replace the inlet on the boat.  If you're not familiar with the 
Smart plug, it snaps into place, and can't be removed without depressing the 
locking tabs on both sides of the plug.  The inlet has a waterproof cover which 
hinges down to protect the pins from the weather.

Alan

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:49 AM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Alan, was the change over to the Smart Plug just re-attaching the regular 
wiring?   I am assuming this must be done at both the boat end and the power 
cord end? Thanks

Richard
S/V Bushmark4; C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>
To: C >
Cc: ALAN BERGEN >
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 10:22 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

I've been using a Smart Plug ever since it was introduced, with no problems.  
The contacts are larger, and a replacement (if you should need one) is readily 
available.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
> wrote:
I would think twice abut the smart plug for a coupla reasons -

1)  it is effectively a proprietary solution, meaning that you cannot use more 
widely available connectors should yours fail, get stolen, etc...

2)  I see you have a .ca email address - you need to check if the item is CSA 
approved.  Probably nobody will enforce this, BUT if you have a fire it could 
be a concern insurance-wise.

That said, the standard "twistlock" solution is far from ideal, primarily 
because the female connector (which engages the inlet) is subject to contact 
fatigue, corrosion, resistance, heat, melt over time.   (In my 20 years with a 
major manufacturer of these things, I noticed a pattern)

Not sure why the Marinco inlet requires replacement, but why not just replace 
the whole thing? The part will likely cost nearly the same -or more - as the 
complete unit, and may be a PITA to get.IF the replacement is suggested 
because of evidence of corrosion or heat, check (and replace)  the mating part, 
that's where the likely cause lies. If the contacts are bent, they will 
certainly distort the mating female contact, contributing to the 
resistance>heat>failure cycle.

These things do fail, and in my experience its with the female contacts 
overheating at the inlet.

Dave




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From: Bev Parslow >
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
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Cc:
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:35:28 + (UTC)
Subject: Stus-List marinco
Our 29-2 was built in 1984. The survey says the marinco inlet interior needs to 
be replaced. Where can I find the insert? The 305crmb is supposed to work for 
models after 1991. Should I give it a go?


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From: ALAN BERGEN >
To: "C" >
Cc:
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:07:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Stus-List marinco
Replace it with a Smart Plug:  
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|2290035|2290039=3472976

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

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Stus-List storing big wheel?

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Hi Josh,

One interesting place I’ve seen the big wheels mounted is on a Bimini frame 
above the binnacle.  With the Edson clamp on mount, it threads up there easily, 
but might take two to hold in place to screw on.  It’s safely inside, out of 
the way, and if you like the chandelier lighting option, you can hang lights.  
I’ve seen fish lights and the solar LED plastic cylinders. 

2 cents, Lee



> On Feb 9, 2017, at 1:33 59PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My wheel is too big to store on the inside.  It is a little nerve racking to 
> hang the wheel on the outside... But I guess I've just gotten used to it.  I 
> used to tie the wheel with some rope just for extra security but I don't even 
> do that any more.  I do have a "spare" smaller wheel at home so I guess if 
> something happened it wouldn't be too bad to just run home for the other 
> wheel.   Our local marina diver would be able to recover the big one pretty 
> easily.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD


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Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

My wheel is too big to store on the inside.  It is a little nerve racking
to hang the wheel on the outside... But I guess I've just gotten used to
it.  I used to tie the wheel with some rope just for extra security but I
don't even do that any more.  I do have a "spare" smaller wheel at home so
I guess if something happened it wouldn't be too bad to just run home for
the other wheel.   Our local marina diver would be able to recover the big
one pretty easily.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Feb 9, 2017 3:37 PM, "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My elegant solution is electrical tape (as opposed to masking tape).
> Also, my Edson rail mount does not get as tight on the stern pulpit tubing
> as I would like, so I store the wheel inside the pulpit (just in case).
>
> *From:* Eric Baumes via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2017 2:08 PM
> *To:* cnc-list 
> *Cc:* Eric Baumes 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?
>
> Hi,
>
> I like the idea of the Edson Rail Mount, but I have a question for anyone
> who has used one.
>
> How do you ensure that you don't lose the Key from the Wheelshaft?
>
> In the winter when I take the wheel off so I can get to the back of the
> cockpit under the cover, I wrap the Wheelshaft with the key in it with
> masking tape.  I suppose I could do the same while cruising but I am
> wondering if anyone else had a more elegant solution.
>
> Eric
> C 34/36 --  Big wheel and love it.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> About a year ago, I had a problem with bigger-wheel envy and I asked the
>> list-perts here about a wheel I subsequently purchased on E-Bay.  It was
>> less than 1/16 too small for my Edson 1" shaft and had wheel reamed at a
>> local machine shop (as suggested here) to fit.  Went from a 36" to 44"
>> wheel on my 35-3.
>>
>> Now the point:  Absolutely best move...other than looking "correct" to my
>> eye, I agree with everyone here about the functional upgrade.  Sailing is
>> much easier and more options to sit (I also removed the camel-hump).
>> Girlfriend would rather have the room afforded by the old wheel...so I
>> really like your link to the Edson rail-mounted storage clamp.  Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Chuck Saur*
>>
>> (517)-490-5926 <(517)%20490-5926>
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Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I lock the wheel shaft before I remove the wheel and then gravity keeps the
key in place.  If the key does end up falling it only falls to the cockpit
floor.  I've considered rubber bands and pvc pipe sleeves.  I've even
considered a shim in the keyway to make the key fit tighter so that
friction prevents it from falling.  It's just not a problem which is bad
enough to command enough of my attention to make it better.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Feb 9, 2017 2:09 PM, "Eric Baumes via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I like the idea of the Edson Rail Mount, but I have a question for anyone
> who has used one.
>
> How do you ensure that you don't lose the Key from the Wheelshaft?
>
> In the winter when I take the wheel off so I can get to the back of the
> cockpit under the cover, I wrap the Wheelshaft with the key in it with
> masking tape.  I suppose I could do the same while cruising but I am
> wondering if anyone else had a more elegant solution.
>
> Eric
> C 34/36 --  Big wheel and love it.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> About a year ago, I had a problem with bigger-wheel envy and I asked the
>> list-perts here about a wheel I subsequently purchased on E-Bay.  It was
>> less than 1/16 too small for my Edson 1" shaft and had wheel reamed at a
>> local machine shop (as suggested here) to fit.  Went from a 36" to 44"
>> wheel on my 35-3.
>>
>> Now the point:  Absolutely best move...other than looking "correct" to my
>> eye, I agree with everyone here about the functional upgrade.  Sailing is
>> much easier and more options to sit (I also removed the camel-hump).
>> Girlfriend would rather have the room afforded by the old wheel...so I
>> really like your link to the Edson rail-mounted storage clamp.  Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Chuck Saur*
>>
>> (517)-490-5926 <(517)%20490-5926>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

My elegant solution is electrical tape (as opposed to masking tape).  Also, my 
Edson rail mount does not get as tight on the stern pulpit tubing as I would 
like, so I store the wheel inside the pulpit (just in case).

From: Eric Baumes via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2017 2:08 PM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Eric Baumes 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

Hi,  

I like the idea of the Edson Rail Mount, but I have a question for anyone who 
has used one. 

How do you ensure that you don't lose the Key from the Wheelshaft?

In the winter when I take the wheel off so I can get to the back of the cockpit 
under the cover, I wrap the Wheelshaft with the key in it with masking tape.  I 
suppose I could do the same while cruising but I am wondering if anyone else 
had a more elegant solution.

Eric 
C 34/36 --  Big wheel and love it.



On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List  
wrote:

  About a year ago, I had a problem with bigger-wheel envy and I asked the 
list-perts here about a wheel I subsequently purchased on E-Bay.  It was less 
than 1/16 too small for my Edson 1" shaft and had wheel reamed at a local 
machine shop (as suggested here) to fit.  Went from a 36" to 44" wheel on my 
35-3.   

  Now the point:  Absolutely best move...other than looking "correct" to my 
eye, I agree with everyone here about the functional upgrade.  Sailing is much 
easier and more options to sit (I also removed the camel-hump).  Girlfriend 
would rather have the room afforded by the old wheel...so I really like your 
link to the Edson rail-mounted storage clamp.  Thanks. 





  Chuck Saur 

  (517)-490-5926

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Re: Stus-List Solar Vent Fan on a 37/40+

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Edd,

I've always told myself that when I install solar vents it will be in the
port and stbd hatches.  I'd set one to blow in and one to suck out.  My
thought is that this arrangement would draw air across the cabin for better
circulation.  I'm in agreement, I don't want to cut into the acrylic
lenses.  Well for that matter I don't want to cut into the deck.  I guess
that's part of the reason I've never installed vents.

I don't know if the PO installed dorad vents under the helmsmans hump of if
they are original equipment.  I've considered running 12v vent fans and
duct work to make them more effective.  I could power them from the main
battery which is kept topped up with 200w solar panels.  I would use a low
voltage shutoff to only run the fans when the voltage is greater than 12.7v
(when the batteries are being charged).  The 12v fans are much cheaper than
the solar ones and I wouldn't have to cut holes in the hatches or lenses.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Feb 9, 2017 12:27 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Listers — specifically the 37+ owners —
>
> Have any of you installed a solar vent fan into your 37+s? And if, so,
> where? There don’t seem to be a whole lot of options giving the deck and
> interior configurations. I’d prefer not to cut a hole into my forward hatch
> (or any other hatch)
>
> Any photos would be greatly appreciated.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
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Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Eric,

It isn’t elegant, but a bit of bearing grease on the key will typically hold it 
in place.  You can also give it a tap with mallet enough that it mushrooms very 
slightly at the edge.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 LF 35

Padanaram, MA

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Baumes 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 2:08 PM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Eric Baumes 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

 

Hi, 

 

I like the idea of the Edson Rail Mount, but I have a question for anyone who 
has used one. 

 

How do you ensure that you don't lose the Key from the Wheelshaft?

 

In the winter when I take the wheel off so I can get to the back of the cockpit 
under the cover, I wrap the Wheelshaft with the key in it with masking tape.  I 
suppose I could do the same while cruising but I am wondering if anyone else 
had a more elegant solution.

 

Eric 

C 34/36 --  Big wheel and love it.

 

 

 

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List  > wrote:

About a year ago, I had a problem with bigger-wheel envy and I asked the 
list-perts here about a wheel I subsequently purchased on E-Bay.  It was less 
than 1/16 too small for my Edson 1" shaft and had wheel reamed at a local 
machine shop (as suggested here) to fit.  Went from a 36" to 44" wheel on my 
35-3.  

 

Now the point:  Absolutely best move...other than looking "correct" to my eye, 
I agree with everyone here about the functional upgrade.  Sailing is much 
easier and more options to sit (I also removed the camel-hump).  Girlfriend 
would rather have the room afforded by the old wheel...so I really like your 
link to the Edson rail-mounted storage clamp.  Thanks.




 

 

Chuck Saur

 

(517)-490-5926  


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Re: Stus-List Cowl Vents C 37

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Chris,

Nope, no core. It’s solid laminate, probably ~ 3/8” I think. Now, by cowl vents 
I’m assuming you mean the dorades found alongside the mast. 

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Feb 9, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> HEY GUYS,
> 
> Does anyone know if the holes and screw holes around the cowl vents on a 37 
> have any core exposed to the elements? I've replaced mine and am wondering if 
> I need to epoxy and seal the holes.
> I’m guessing it would have been a big let-down to expose core to all that 
> water on deck.
> 
> 
> cheers,
> Chris
> NORTHERN LIGHT
> C 37
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Re: Stus-List Solar Vent Fan on a 37/40+

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

I know this doesn't answer your question but it is interesting.  This
particular 37+ added a small hatch into the ceiling of the aft cabin, just
inside the cabin door.  It opens forward so would scoop up lots of fresh
air if the dodger isn't there or the dodger windshield is open.  Might be a
good addition for more ventilation in that aft cabin.

https://goo.gl/photos/pCVmq9GWBJ44sZSF8

Not my boat.

Ken H.


On 9 February 2017 at 13:26, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers — specifically the 37+ owners —
>
> Have any of you installed a solar vent fan into your 37+s? And if, so,
> where? There don’t seem to be a whole lot of options giving the deck and
> interior configurations. I’d prefer not to cut a hole into my forward hatch
> (or any other hatch)
>
> Any photos would be greatly appreciated.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

[Eric Baumes via CnC-List]

Hi,

I like the idea of the Edson Rail Mount, but I have a question for anyone
who has used one.

How do you ensure that you don't lose the Key from the Wheelshaft?

In the winter when I take the wheel off so I can get to the back of the
cockpit under the cover, I wrap the Wheelshaft with the key in it with
masking tape.  I suppose I could do the same while cruising but I am
wondering if anyone else had a more elegant solution.

Eric
C 34/36 --  Big wheel and love it.



On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> About a year ago, I had a problem with bigger-wheel envy and I asked the
> list-perts here about a wheel I subsequently purchased on E-Bay.  It was
> less than 1/16 too small for my Edson 1" shaft and had wheel reamed at a
> local machine shop (as suggested here) to fit.  Went from a 36" to 44"
> wheel on my 35-3.
>
> Now the point:  Absolutely best move...other than looking "correct" to my
> eye, I agree with everyone here about the functional upgrade.  Sailing is
> much easier and more options to sit (I also removed the camel-hump).
> Girlfriend would rather have the room afforded by the old wheel...so I
> really like your link to the Edson rail-mounted storage clamp.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> *Chuck Saur*
>
> (517)-490-5926 <(517)%20490-5926>
>
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Re: Stus-List Solar Vent Fan on a 37/40+

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Edd:

I mounted a solar vent in the acrylic lens of the cabin hatch.  It's an
easy job.

Alan Bergen
35 M III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers — specifically the 37+ owners —
>
> Have any of you installed a solar vent fan into your 37+s? And if, so,
> where? There don’t seem to be a whole lot of options giving the deck and
> interior configurations. I’d prefer not to cut a hole into my forward hatch
> (or any other hatch)
>
> Any photos would be greatly appreciated.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
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Re: Stus-List Cowl Vents C 37

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 Christian...another thought; if you pull the headliner sections which are 
under the raised section, (dorades or whatever they're called); you can see the 
actual fiberglass and the drainage pathway...mine have some thin fiberglass 
pieces which serve as baffles to prevent rainwater etc from coming into the 
cabin area...  

 


Richard
S/V Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Christian Tirtirau 
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 12:20 pm
Subject: Stus-List Cowl Vents C 37

Yes, Richard, those are the ones I was referring to…no issues, just confirming 
with the list that this is not an entry point for water ingress into the deck 
core.I have re-bedded the genoa tracks and was wondering about the Dorade 
vents, thanks.ChristianNorthern 
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Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

The Marinco contacts on my boat inlet were burned.  I replaced the inlet
with a Smart inlet, using the same boat wiring.  Then I replaced one end of
my power cable with the Smart plug.  I didn't have to replace the other end
of the power cable.  However, you can buy a new cable with the Smart plug
already attached, and then just replace the inlet on the boat.  If you're
not familiar with the Smart plug, it snaps into place, and can't be removed
without depressing the locking tabs on both sides of the plug.  The inlet
has a waterproof cover which hinges down to protect the pins from the
weather.

Alan

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:49 AM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Alan, was the change over to the Smart Plug just re-attaching the regular
> wiring?   I am assuming this must be done at both the boat end and the
> power cord end? Thanks
>
> Richard
> S/V Bushmark4; C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
> To: C 
> Cc: ALAN BERGEN 
> Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 10:22 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet
>
> I've been using a Smart Plug ever since it was introduced, with no
> problems.  The contacts are larger, and a replacement (if you should need
> one) is readily available.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  > wrote:
>
>> I would think twice abut the smart plug for a coupla reasons -
>>
>> 1)  it is effectively a proprietary solution, meaning that you cannot use
>> more widely available connectors should yours fail, get stolen, etc...
>>
>> 2)  I see you have a .ca email address - you need to check if the item is
>> CSA approved.  Probably nobody will enforce this, BUT if you have a fire it
>> could be a concern insurance-wise.
>>
>> That said, the standard "twistlock" solution is far from ideal, primarily
>> because the female connector (which engages the inlet) is subject to
>> contact fatigue, corrosion, resistance, heat, melt over time.   (In my 20
>> years with a major manufacturer of these things, I noticed a pattern)
>>
>> Not sure why the Marinco inlet requires replacement, but why not just
>> replace the whole thing? The part will likely cost nearly the same -or more
>> - as the complete unit, and may be a PITA to get.IF the replacement is
>> suggested because of evidence of corrosion or heat, check (and replace)
>>  the mating part, that's where the likely cause lies. If the contacts are
>> bent, they will certainly distort the mating female contact, contributing
>> to the resistance>heat>failure cycle.
>>
>> These things do fail, and in my experience its with the female contacts
>> overheating at the inlet.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Bev Parslow 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:35:28 + (UTC)
>> Subject: Stus-List marinco
>> Our 29-2 was built in 1984. The survey says the marinco inlet interior
>> needs to be replaced. Where can I find the insert? The 305crmb is supposed
>> to work for models after 1991. Should I give it a go?
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: ALAN BERGEN 
>> To: "C" 
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:07:47 -0800
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List marinco
>> Replace it with a Smart Plug:  http://www.defender.com
>> /product.jsp?path=-1|328|2290035|2290039=3472976
>> 
>>
>> Alan Bergen
>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
>>
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Stus-List Solar Vent Fan on a 37/40+

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers — specifically the 37+ owners — 

Have any of you installed a solar vent fan into your 37+s? And if, so, where? 
There don’t seem to be a whole lot of options giving the deck and interior 
configurations. I’d prefer not to cut a hole into my forward hatch (or any 
other hatch)

Any photos would be greatly appreciated. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











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Stus-List Cowl Vents C 37

[Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List]

Yes, Richard, those are the ones I was referring to…no issues, just confirming 
with the list that this is not an entry point for water ingress into the deck 
core.
I have re-bedded the genoa tracks and was wondering about the Dorade vents, 
thanks.

Christian
Northern Light
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Stus-List C 38 for sale

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

The Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum has a C 38 II (1977) for sale. It is very 
well equipped, but needs running rigging updates and a new cabin floor and some 
TLC.. Rigged for racing and cruising with bags of new and near-new sails. Good 
running diesel.

 

They are asking for $15.5K, but are open to offers. 

 

I drove it across the bay and can testify that the engine runs well.

 

Gary Nylander

 

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Re: Stus-List Cowl Vents C 37

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 Christian., are you referring to the vents which are on the raised portion of 
the cabin top, sort of like built in dorade vents...? If so, my 1985 seems to 
be all fiberglass and no core at all, at least in the part forward of the 
mast; they do have a drain or limber hole near the base, from which you can 
see the thickness of the material; it does not seem thick enough to have 
coring...(I'll yield to our List experts on that issue); 

What issue are you experiencing? do you have a leak somewhere? thanks

 


Richard
S/V Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Christian Tirtirau 
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 11:19 am
Subject: Stus-List Cowl Vents C 37

HEY GUYS,Does anyone know if the holes and screw holes around the cowl vents on 
a 37 have any core exposed to the elements? I've replaced mine and am wondering 
if I need to epoxy and seal the holes.I’m guessing it would have been a big 
let-down to expose core to all that water on deck.cheers,ChrisNORTHERN LIGHTC 
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Stus-List Cowl Vents C 37

[Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List]

HEY GUYS,

Does anyone know if the holes and screw holes around the cowl vents on a 37 
have any core exposed to the elements? I've replaced mine and am wondering if I 
need to epoxy and seal the holes.
I’m guessing it would have been a big let-down to expose core to all that water 
on deck.


cheers,
Chris
NORTHERN LIGHT
C 37
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Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

I did Perception, and the boat end was install a ner plug – just un screw and 
disconnect the wires from the old plug, reconnect them to the new one and 
reinstall. I bought it with a complete cord as I needed an long extension cord 
which my old Marinco became.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bushmark4--- 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 10:50 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: bushma...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

Alan, was the change over to the Smart Plug just re-attaching the regular 
wiring?   I am assuming this must be done at both the boat end and the power 
cord end? Thanks

Richard
S/V Bushmark4; C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>
To: C >
Cc: ALAN BERGEN >
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 10:22 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet
I've been using a Smart Plug ever since it was introduced, with no problems.  
The contacts are larger, and a replacement (if you should need one) is readily 
available.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
> wrote:
I would think twice abut the smart plug for a coupla reasons -

1)  it is effectively a proprietary solution, meaning that you cannot use more 
widely available connectors should yours fail, get stolen, etc...

2)  I see you have a .ca email address - you need to check if the item is CSA 
approved.  Probably nobody will enforce this, BUT if you have a fire it could 
be a concern insurance-wise.

That said, the standard "twistlock" solution is far from ideal, primarily 
because the female connector (which engages the inlet) is subject to contact 
fatigue, corrosion, resistance, heat, melt over time.   (In my 20 years with a 
major manufacturer of these things, I noticed a pattern)

Not sure why the Marinco inlet requires replacement, but why not just replace 
the whole thing? The part will likely cost nearly the same -or more - as the 
complete unit, and may be a PITA to get.IF the replacement is suggested 
because of evidence of corrosion or heat, check (and replace)  the mating part, 
that's where the likely cause lies. If the contacts are bent, they will 
certainly distort the mating female contact, contributing to the 
resistance>heat>failure cycle.

These things do fail, and in my experience its with the female contacts 
overheating at the inlet.

Dave




-- Forwarded message --
From: Bev Parslow >
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>
Cc:
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:35:28 + (UTC)
Subject: Stus-List marinco
Our 29-2 was built in 1984. The survey says the marinco inlet interior needs to 
be replaced. Where can I find the insert? The 305crmb is supposed to work for 
models after 1991. Should I give it a go?


-- Forwarded message --
From: ALAN BERGEN >
To: "C" >
Cc:
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:07:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Stus-List marinco
Replace it with a Smart Plug:  
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|2290035|2290039=3472976
Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

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Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 Alan, was the change over to the Smart Plug just re-attaching the regular 
wiring?   I am assuming this must be done at both the boat end and the power 
cord end? Thanks 

 


Richard
S/V Bushmark4; C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; 
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
To: C 
Cc: ALAN BERGEN 
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 10:22 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet



I've been using a Smart Plug ever since it was introduced, with no problems.  
The contacts are larger, and a replacement (if you should need one) is readily 
available.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  
wrote:

I would think twice abut the smart plug for a coupla reasons - 


1)  it is effectively a proprietary solution, meaning that you cannot use more 
widely available connectors should yours fail, get stolen, etc...


2)  I see you have a .ca email address - you need to check if the item is CSA 
approved.  Probably nobody will enforce this, BUT if you have a fire it could 
be a concern insurance-wise.   


That said, the standard "twistlock" solution is far from ideal, primarily 
because the female connector (which engages the inlet) is subject to contact 
fatigue, corrosion, resistance, heat, melt over time.   (In my 20 years with a 
major manufacturer of these things, I noticed a pattern)


Not sure why the Marinco inlet requires replacement, but why not just replace 
the whole thing? The part will likely cost nearly the same -or more - as the 
complete unit, and may be a PITA to get.IF the replacement is suggested 
because of evidence of corrosion or heat, check (and replace)  the mating part, 
that's where the likely cause lies. If the contacts are bent, they will 
certainly distort the mating female contact, contributing to the 
resistance>heat>failure cycle.


These things do fail, and in my experience its with the female contacts 
overheating at the inlet.


Dave








-- Forwarded message --
From: Bev Parslow 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: 
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:35:28 + (UTC)
Subject: Stus-List marinco


Our 29-2 was built in 1984. The survey says the marinco inlet interior needs to 
be replaced. Where can I find the insert? The 305crmb is supposed to work for 
models after 1991. Should I give it a go?



-- Forwarded message --
From: ALAN BERGEN 
To: "C" 
Cc: 
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:07:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Stus-List marinco



Replace it with a Smart Plug:  
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|2290035|2290039=3472976


Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR


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Re: Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I've been using a Smart Plug ever since it was introduced, with no
problems.  The contacts are larger, and a replacement (if you should need
one) is readily available.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I would think twice abut the smart plug for a coupla reasons -
>
> 1)  it is effectively a proprietary solution, meaning that you cannot use
> more widely available connectors should yours fail, get stolen, etc...
>
> 2)  I see you have a .ca email address - you need to check if the item is
> CSA approved.  Probably nobody will enforce this, BUT if you have a fire it
> could be a concern insurance-wise.
>
> That said, the standard "twistlock" solution is far from ideal, primarily
> because the female connector (which engages the inlet) is subject to
> contact fatigue, corrosion, resistance, heat, melt over time.   (In my 20
> years with a major manufacturer of these things, I noticed a pattern)
>
> Not sure why the Marinco inlet requires replacement, but why not just
> replace the whole thing? The part will likely cost nearly the same -or more
> - as the complete unit, and may be a PITA to get.IF the replacement is
> suggested because of evidence of corrosion or heat, check (and replace)
>  the mating part, that's where the likely cause lies. If the contacts are
> bent, they will certainly distort the mating female contact, contributing
> to the resistance>heat>failure cycle.
>
> These things do fail, and in my experience its with the female contacts
> overheating at the inlet.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Bev Parslow 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:35:28 + (UTC)
> Subject: Stus-List marinco
> Our 29-2 was built in 1984. The survey says the marinco inlet interior
> needs to be replaced. Where can I find the insert? The 305crmb is supposed
> to work for models after 1991. Should I give it a go?
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: ALAN BERGEN 
> To: "C" 
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:07:47 -0800
> Subject: Re: Stus-List marinco
> Replace it with a Smart Plug:  http://www.defender.
> com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|2290035|2290039=3472976
> 
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
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>
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>
>


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Stus-List re; marinco/shorepower inlet

[Dave S via CnC-List]

I would think twice abut the smart plug for a coupla reasons -

1)  it is effectively a proprietary solution, meaning that you cannot use
more widely available connectors should yours fail, get stolen, etc...

2)  I see you have a .ca email address - you need to check if the item is
CSA approved.  Probably nobody will enforce this, BUT if you have a fire it
could be a concern insurance-wise.

That said, the standard "twistlock" solution is far from ideal, primarily
because the female connector (which engages the inlet) is subject to
contact fatigue, corrosion, resistance, heat, melt over time.   (In my 20
years with a major manufacturer of these things, I noticed a pattern)

Not sure why the Marinco inlet requires replacement, but why not just
replace the whole thing? The part will likely cost nearly the same -or more
- as the complete unit, and may be a PITA to get.IF the replacement is
suggested because of evidence of corrosion or heat, check (and replace)
 the mating part, that's where the likely cause lies. If the contacts are
bent, they will certainly distort the mating female contact, contributing
to the resistance>heat>failure cycle.

These things do fail, and in my experience its with the female contacts
overheating at the inlet.

Dave




-- Forwarded message --
From: Bev Parslow 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc:
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:35:28 + (UTC)
Subject: Stus-List marinco
Our 29-2 was built in 1984. The survey says the marinco inlet interior
needs to be replaced. Where can I find the insert? The 305crmb is supposed
to work for models after 1991. Should I give it a go?


-- Forwarded message --
From: ALAN BERGEN 
To: "C" 
Cc:
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:07:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Stus-List marinco
Replace it with a Smart Plug:  http://www.defender.com/
product.jsp?path=-1|328|2290035|2290039=3472976

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List Metal sextant

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Funny, I was just at Bacon's yesterday. Picked up a used mainsail for my boat. 
It was 74 degrees, so I went for a harbor cruise and moved my boat to her new 
slip. Today we are prepping for an inch of snow and 17 degree temp. Crazy 
weather.


> On February 8, 2017 at 10:30 AM "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> It is on Legion Ave in Annapolis behind the Acura dealer.
> 
>  
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Liz 
> Mather via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 10:27
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Liz Mather 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Metal sextant
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> Thank you for the response…where is Bacon sails?
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> > > 
> > On Feb 8, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> >  wrote:
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> > Bacon sails usually has several on the shelf.
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> > Joel
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> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:35 AM Liz Mather via CnC-List 
> >  wrote:
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> > > Just wondering if anyone has or knows of someone that would 
> > > like to sell their sextant and would be interested in shipping to Canada?
> > > Thank you!
> > > 
> > > Mistral V
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