Re: Stus-List Gotta Love These Hurricanes

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Good luck, you guys. You have had repeated beatings this year.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 7 October 2017 at 19:56, Bob Caughran via CnC-List  wrote:

> Thanks Dennis. Just got word that there's 76 boats in the cove now
> including the biloxi schooners so I suspect we picked the right spot.
> Touché going to get rocked from the way it looks too.
> Fingers crossed for all boats. Should have word early tomorrow on Beemers
> fate.
>
> Bob Caughran
> Beemer, 29mkll
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 7, 2017, at 21:28, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Bob, was wondering about Beemer.  Beemer is probably the most exposed boat
> on the list.  Hope it weathers the storm OK.  Let us know.
>
> As I was driving to Pensacola I saw a couple of shrimpers up the Biloxi
> backwaters by one of the I-10 bridges.
>
> Many marinas on the coast boot out their tenants.  As I was doing storm
> prep on Touche' Friday, a Catalina came into the slip next to me.  The
> regular tenant was hauled out.  The Catalina had just gotten booted from
> Palafox Pier, the most expensive, by far, marina in the Pensacola area.
> Palafox Pier has floating piers but is directly on Pensacola Bay. The
> Catalina owner was not happy.
>
> This is what happened to Palafox Pier after Hurricane Ivan in 2004.
>
> http://www.pnj.com/story/weather/hurricanes/2015/09/15/
> hurricane-ivan-anniversary/72347546/
>
> Palafox Pier has a LOT of big boats in it.  Where does one take a 60+ foot
> motoryacht when it's in the only marina with large slips within 20 miles?
> Some boatyards offer pre-paid storm haul outs.  Or I guess one heads to The
> Wharf in Orange Beach.  That's a 25 mile run.
>
> Fairly quiet here in Baton Rouge tonight.  Nate has made landfall on the
> Delta and will shortly make a second landfall on the Mississippi Coast.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Bob Caughran via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> So here's how my last 3 days have gone. On Thursday a fellow sailor from
>> my marina in Biloxi called to let me know they were considering closing the
>> marina for Nate. I packed up my car and headed down to Biloxi yesterday
>> morning. Sunshine, 82 degrees and 12-15 knots from the east. I arrive to
>> find three sailing buddies prepping their boats and waiting for me to lead
>> them to the hurricane hole none of us have been to before.
>> I add five gallons of fuel to Beemer, C&C29mkII, the harbor master helps
>> us get off the docks and off we go at 1:30PM. It's a six to seven mile trek
>> into biloxi bay and up the biloxi river.
>> Two miles into the excursion going under the I110 bridge, I hear a
>> different sound from the exhaust. I look down behind and see no water
>> coming from the exhaust. I turn on the autopilot and run down and check the
>> front of the engine to find the belt and pully laying under the engine. The
>> hub of the pully still on the water pump.
>> No overtemp alarm or light. Secondary cooling apparently keeping the
>> temps from alarming. A mile later, bilge pump starts firing off. Back down
>> to investigate. Hot water pressure release going off.
>> Time to power down and toss line to friends boat to continue under toe.
>> Now as I said earlier, none of us have ever been to these protected
>> waters.  We find one cove and one sailboat attempts to enter. 20' 17' 5'
>> turn around..  As we approach the I10 bridge (too low for us to go under)
>> we spot a secluded cove with two sailboats inside. We go inside and 20'
>> depths throughout. Three boats raft up setting three anchors. Lash to each
>> other and seven lines going to trees ashore.
>> Although you never feel you're secure enough to leave her, we jump in the
>> dink at 12:30AM and motor to the pick up point where one of the wives
>> returns us to the marina to get our cars. Done and exhausted at 2AM.
>> This morning, get up, off to the chandlery, no pully. Ok. West marine, no
>> pully but they suggest Tractor Supply Company. Sure enough they got it.
>> Yeah.
>> Jump in car and haul butt up to Hattiesburg to hole myself up till Nate
>> passes thru.
>> If the marina opens on Monday we will head back get the boats, if they're
>> still floating, and head back to the marina.
>> Special note: if the marina call for evacuation and you do not evacuate,
>> they will sink your boat in the slip.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> ___
>>
>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up
>> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
>> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
>> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>
>> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>
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Re: Stus-List Gotta Love These Hurricanes

[Bob Caughran via CnC-List]

Thanks Dennis. Just got word that there's 76 boats in the cove now including 
the biloxi schooners so I suspect we picked the right spot. 
Touché going to get rocked from the way it looks too. 
Fingers crossed for all boats. Should have word early tomorrow on Beemers fate. 

Bob Caughran
Beemer, 29mkll

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 21:28, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Bob, was wondering about Beemer.  Beemer is probably the most exposed boat on 
> the list.  Hope it weathers the storm OK.  Let us know.
> 
> As I was driving to Pensacola I saw a couple of shrimpers up the Biloxi 
> backwaters by one of the I-10 bridges.
> 
> Many marinas on the coast boot out their tenants.  As I was doing storm prep 
> on Touche' Friday, a Catalina came into the slip next to me.  The regular 
> tenant was hauled out.  The Catalina had just gotten booted from Palafox 
> Pier, the most expensive, by far, marina in the Pensacola area.  Palafox Pier 
> has floating piers but is directly on Pensacola Bay. The Catalina owner was 
> not happy.
> 
> This is what happened to Palafox Pier after Hurricane Ivan in 2004.
> 
> http://www.pnj.com/story/weather/hurricanes/2015/09/15/hurricane-ivan-anniversary/72347546/
> 
> Palafox Pier has a LOT of big boats in it.  Where does one take a 60+ foot 
> motoryacht when it's in the only marina with large slips within 20 miles?  
> Some boatyards offer pre-paid storm haul outs.  Or I guess one heads to The 
> Wharf in Orange Beach.  That's a 25 mile run.
> 
> Fairly quiet here in Baton Rouge tonight.  Nate has made landfall on the 
> Delta and will shortly make a second landfall on the Mississippi Coast.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Bob Caughran via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> So here's how my last 3 days have gone. On Thursday a fellow sailor from my 
>> marina in Biloxi called to let me know they were considering closing the 
>> marina for Nate. I packed up my car and headed down to Biloxi yesterday 
>> morning. Sunshine, 82 degrees and 12-15 knots from the east. I arrive to 
>> find three sailing buddies prepping their boats and waiting for me to lead 
>> them to the hurricane hole none of us have been to before.
>> I add five gallons of fuel to Beemer, C&C29mkII, the harbor master helps us 
>> get off the docks and off we go at 1:30PM. It's a six to seven mile trek 
>> into biloxi bay and up the biloxi river.
>> Two miles into the excursion going under the I110 bridge, I hear a different 
>> sound from the exhaust. I look down behind and see no water coming from the 
>> exhaust. I turn on the autopilot and run down and check the front of the 
>> engine to find the belt and pully laying under the engine. The hub of the 
>> pully still on the water pump.
>> No overtemp alarm or light. Secondary cooling apparently keeping the temps 
>> from alarming. A mile later, bilge pump starts firing off. Back down to 
>> investigate. Hot water pressure release going off.
>> Time to power down and toss line to friends boat to continue under toe.
>> Now as I said earlier, none of us have ever been to these protected waters.  
>> We find one cove and one sailboat attempts to enter. 20' 17' 5' turn 
>> around..  As we approach the I10 bridge (too low for us to go under) we spot 
>> a secluded cove with two sailboats inside. We go inside and 20' depths 
>> throughout. Three boats raft up setting three anchors. Lash to each other 
>> and seven lines going to trees ashore.
>> Although you never feel you're secure enough to leave her, we jump in the 
>> dink at 12:30AM and motor to the pick up point where one of the wives 
>> returns us to the marina to get our cars. Done and exhausted at 2AM.
>> This morning, get up, off to the chandlery, no pully. Ok. West marine, no 
>> pully but they suggest Tractor Supply Company. Sure enough they got it. Yeah.
>> Jump in car and haul butt up to Hattiesburg to hole myself up till Nate 
>> passes thru.
>> If the marina opens on Monday we will head back get the boats, if they're 
>> still floating, and head back to the marina.
>> Special note: if the marina call for evacuation and you do not evacuate, 
>> they will sink your boat in the slip.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> ___
>> 
>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again..  
>> October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small 
>> contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send 
>> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> 
>> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
> 
> ___
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> October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 Shade

[Steven A. Demore via CnC-List]

Thanks Aaron!

 

From: Aaron Rouhi [mailto:admiralmag...@outlook.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 7:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 Shade

 

I have a Bimini and Dodger on my 30-1. The Bimini is made by Genco Marine (they 
have made tons of these for C&Cs have patterns on file) and Dodger is custom 
made locally by Bacon Sails. The Bimini is attached to the rail and has slots 
for my double backstay adjustor...  

 

I will dig up some photos for you...  

 

Cheers, 

Aaron

Admiral Maggie

79 30-1

Annapolis, MD


On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:21 PM, Steven A. Demore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Curious as to whether anybody has a bimini/dodger on a 30 MK1 and if so, how it 
is built.  Looking to put one on my boat, but with the low boom and the main 
sheet in the middle of the cockpit, not sure how it would be laid out.  

 

Thanks,
Steve

 

SV Doin’ It Right
1973 C&C 30 MK1
Pasadena, MD

 

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Re: Stus-List Foam in mast

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I wouldn't use any chemical solvents.  The risk to the insulation on your
wires and the possibility of a gooey mess are considerations.

You said it was just above halyard exits?  If you don't pull the rig, think
about modifying a drain snake.  They're fairly cheap.  Perhaps take a 1/4
inch snake, cut off a decent section, chuck it up in a drill and insert it
up through the halyard exit.  You can tie a messenger to the halyard and
shove the tail into the mast to get it out of the way.

Might be a tedious job and might yield less than 100% results.

If you pull the rig, use a long piece of PVC pipe with the end cut at a
sharp angle.  Maybe put some fasteners through the end to make a "reamer".

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I hope this is a common issue, and someone has found an answer. Our old
> 29-2 and our current 35-3 both have some sort of foam in the mast above the
> top halyard exit plate. I was really lucky that I pulled a bundle of new
> wires through the foam on the 29, it was really touch and go as to whether
> my connections were up to the job. I have no idea how you would get a new
> halyard down if you lost it completely, there's no way you could get a
> bicycle chain through the foam just with gravity.
>
> So, has anyone figured out an answer? One that preferably worked in the
> real world...
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
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>
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up
> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Gotta Love These Hurricanes

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Bob, was wondering about Beemer.  Beemer is probably the most exposed boat
on the list.  Hope it weathers the storm OK.  Let us know.

As I was driving to Pensacola I saw a couple of shrimpers up the Biloxi
backwaters by one of the I-10 bridges.

Many marinas on the coast boot out their tenants.  As I was doing storm
prep on Touche' Friday, a Catalina came into the slip next to me.  The
regular tenant was hauled out.  The Catalina had just gotten booted from
Palafox Pier, the most expensive, by far, marina in the Pensacola area.
Palafox Pier has floating piers but is directly on Pensacola Bay. The
Catalina owner was not happy.

This is what happened to Palafox Pier after Hurricane Ivan in 2004.

http://www.pnj.com/story/weather/hurricanes/2015/09/15/hurricane-ivan-anniversary/72347546/

Palafox Pier has a LOT of big boats in it.  Where does one take a 60+ foot
motoryacht when it's in the only marina with large slips within 20 miles?
Some boatyards offer pre-paid storm haul outs.  Or I guess one heads to The
Wharf in Orange Beach.  That's a 25 mile run.

Fairly quiet here in Baton Rouge tonight.  Nate has made landfall on the
Delta and will shortly make a second landfall on the Mississippi Coast.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Bob Caughran via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So here's how my last 3 days have gone. On Thursday a fellow sailor from
> my marina in Biloxi called to let me know they were considering closing the
> marina for Nate. I packed up my car and headed down to Biloxi yesterday
> morning. Sunshine, 82 degrees and 12-15 knots from the east. I arrive to
> find three sailing buddies prepping their boats and waiting for me to lead
> them to the hurricane hole none of us have been to before.
> I add five gallons of fuel to Beemer, C&C29mkII, the harbor master helps
> us get off the docks and off we go at 1:30PM. It's a six to seven mile trek
> into biloxi bay and up the biloxi river.
> Two miles into the excursion going under the I110 bridge, I hear a
> different sound from the exhaust. I look down behind and see no water
> coming from the exhaust. I turn on the autopilot and run down and check the
> front of the engine to find the belt and pully laying under the engine. The
> hub of the pully still on the water pump.
> No overtemp alarm or light. Secondary cooling apparently keeping the temps
> from alarming. A mile later, bilge pump starts firing off. Back down to
> investigate. Hot water pressure release going off.
> Time to power down and toss line to friends boat to continue under toe.
> Now as I said earlier, none of us have ever been to these protected
> waters.  We find one cove and one sailboat attempts to enter. 20' 17' 5'
> turn around..  As we approach the I10 bridge (too low for us to go under)
> we spot a secluded cove with two sailboats inside. We go inside and 20'
> depths throughout. Three boats raft up setting three anchors. Lash to each
> other and seven lines going to trees ashore.
> Although you never feel you're secure enough to leave her, we jump in the
> dink at 12:30AM and motor to the pick up point where one of the wives
> returns us to the marina to get our cars. Done and exhausted at 2AM.
> This morning, get up, off to the chandlery, no pully. Ok. West marine, no
> pully but they suggest Tractor Supply Company. Sure enough they got it.
> Yeah.
> Jump in car and haul butt up to Hattiesburg to hole myself up till Nate
> passes thru.
> If the marina opens on Monday we will head back get the boats, if they're
> still floating, and head back to the marina.
> Special note: if the marina call for evacuation and you do not evacuate,
> they will sink your boat in the slip.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
>
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up
> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
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Re: Stus-List Spreader boots 1984 C&C 35-3

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Edson elkhide spreader boots are available at West Marine for about $70 per 
pair, which is about twice the price of the Taylor Made nylon boots. The boots 
on my lower spreaders (where there is contact with the headsail) are elk hide. 
The boots on the uppers (which are above the leach of the 135) are nylon.

 

The elk hide boots last forever – or so it seems. The Nylon ones are much more 
durable than the rubber boots you see most commonly.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Gotta Love These Hurricanes

[Bob Caughran via CnC-List]

So here's how my last 3 days have gone. On Thursday a fellow sailor from my 
marina in Biloxi called to let me know they were considering closing the marina 
for Nate. I packed up my car and headed down to Biloxi yesterday morning. 
Sunshine, 82 degrees and 12-15 knots from the east. I arrive to find three 
sailing buddies prepping their boats and waiting for me to lead them to the 
hurricane hole none of us have been to before. 
I add five gallons of fuel to Beemer, C&C29mkII, the harbor master helps us get 
off the docks and off we go at 1:30PM. It's a six to seven mile trek into 
biloxi bay and up the biloxi river. 
Two miles into the excursion going under the I110 bridge, I hear a different 
sound from the exhaust. I look down behind and see no water coming from the 
exhaust. I turn on the autopilot and run down and check the front of the engine 
to find the belt and pully laying under the engine. The hub of the pully still 
on the water pump. 
No overtemp alarm or light. Secondary cooling apparently keeping the temps from 
alarming. A mile later, bilge pump starts firing off. Back down to investigate. 
Hot water pressure release going off. 
Time to power down and toss line to friends boat to continue under toe. 
Now as I said earlier, none of us have ever been to these protected waters.  We 
find one cove and one sailboat attempts to enter. 20' 17' 5' turn around..  As 
we approach the I10 bridge (too low for us to go under) we spot a secluded cove 
with two sailboats inside. We go inside and 20' depths throughout. Three boats 
raft up setting three anchors. Lash to each other and seven lines going to 
trees ashore. 
Although you never feel you're secure enough to leave her, we jump in the dink 
at 12:30AM and motor to the pick up point where one of the wives returns us to 
the marina to get our cars. Done and exhausted at 2AM. 
This morning, get up, off to the chandlery, no pully. Ok. West marine, no pully 
but they suggest Tractor Supply Company. Sure enough they got it. Yeah. 
Jump in car and haul butt up to Hattiesburg to hole myself up till Nate passes 
thru. 
If the marina opens on Monday we will head back get the boats, if they're still 
floating, and head back to the marina. 
Special note: if the marina call for evacuation and you do not evacuate, they 
will sink your boat in the slip. 
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Stus-List Spreader boots 1984 C&C 35-3

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I would regard that as a bargain. I think the guys at Blackline are pretty
good, but expensive.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 7 October 2017 at 18:11, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just did the rigging on Peregrine. The riggers were able to re-head all
> but the V2/D3, which had to be replaced because of aligning the top
> spreaders with the bend in the rod. The cost was about $5k for literally
> the best guys in the world to do it all.
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Oct 7, 2017, at 20:39, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I'm having a rigger come out next week to have a look at our standing
> rigging and mast, it's all original so I'm sure we'll end up with yet
> another horrific bill. I'm seriously considering going to wire instead of
> rod, but I'll get quotes on both
>
> Andrew, you're right, I want to pull the mast so I can take the collar off
> the deck, fix some voids, and rebed it, plus change all the fixtures and
> the wiring, and add spreader boots. Elkhide sounds good, I'll have to see
> if I can find some. I have cowhide and deerhide (I think) in storage
> somewhere.
>
> That brings up another thought, I'll start a separate thread for that.
>
>
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
> On 7 October 2017 at 12:22, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Especially if you intend to pull the rig, Jim, sewing elkhide boots on is
>> remarkably easy. I did that last year with mine and even though I though I
>> made a hash of the job, you wouldn't know it from the deck! Mind you, I did
>> start with the top set of spreaders first. It's a quick enough job that it
>> can be done from a bosun's chair without earring yourself out.
>>
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI
>> USA02840
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>>
>> > On Oct 7, 2017, at 14:55, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone know offhand the sizes of the spreader tips on the early
>> rig (pre-1985)? I want to put on some spreader boots and having them ready
>> to go would make it much easier than having to go up and measure first.
>> >
>> > Jim Watts
>> > Paradigm Shift
>> > C&C 35 Mk III
>> > Victoria, BC
>> > ___
>> >
>> > The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up
>> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
>> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
>> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> >
>> > All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>> ___
>>
>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up
>> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
>> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
>> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>
>> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>
> ___
>
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up
> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
>
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> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
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>
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Re: Stus-List Spreader boots 1984 C&C 35-3

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I just did the rigging on Peregrine. The riggers were able to re-head all but 
the V2/D3, which had to be replaced because of aligning the top spreaders with 
the bend in the rod. The cost was about $5k for literally the best guys in the 
world to do it all.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 20:39, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm having a rigger come out next week to have a look at our standing rigging 
> and mast, it's all original so I'm sure we'll end up with yet another 
> horrific bill. I'm seriously considering going to wire instead of rod, but 
> I'll get quotes on both
> 
> Andrew, you're right, I want to pull the mast so I can take the collar off 
> the deck, fix some voids, and rebed it, plus change all the fixtures and the 
> wiring, and add spreader boots. Elkhide sounds good, I'll have to see if I 
> can find some. I have cowhide and deerhide (I think) in storage somewhere.
> 
> That brings up another thought, I'll start a separate thread for that. 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 7 October 2017 at 12:22, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Especially if you intend to pull the rig, Jim, sewing elkhide boots on is 
>> remarkably easy. I did that last year with mine and even though I though I 
>> made a hash of the job, you wouldn't know it from the deck! Mind you, I did 
>> start with the top set of spreaders first. It's a quick enough job that it 
>> can be done from a bosun's chair without earring yourself out.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>> > On Oct 7, 2017, at 14:55, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone know offhand the sizes of the spreader tips on the early rig 
>> > (pre-1985)? I want to put on some spreader boots and having them ready to 
>> > go would make it much easier than having to go up and measure first.
>> >
>> > Jim Watts
>> > Paradigm Shift
>> > C&C 35 Mk III
>> > Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Spreader boots 1984 C&C 35-3

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Try Leitch and McBride, Jim. They should have some. 
Tell Phil and Rick I said hi.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 20:39, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm having a rigger come out next week to have a look at our standing rigging 
> and mast, it's all original so I'm sure we'll end up with yet another 
> horrific bill. I'm seriously considering going to wire instead of rod, but 
> I'll get quotes on both
> 
> Andrew, you're right, I want to pull the mast so I can take the collar off 
> the deck, fix some voids, and rebed it, plus change all the fixtures and the 
> wiring, and add spreader boots. Elkhide sounds good, I'll have to see if I 
> can find some. I have cowhide and deerhide (I think) in storage somewhere.
> 
> That brings up another thought, I'll start a separate thread for that. 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 7 October 2017 at 12:22, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Especially if you intend to pull the rig, Jim, sewing elkhide boots on is 
>> remarkably easy. I did that last year with mine and even though I though I 
>> made a hash of the job, you wouldn't know it from the deck! Mind you, I did 
>> start with the top set of spreaders first. It's a quick enough job that it 
>> can be done from a bosun's chair without earring yourself out.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>> > On Oct 7, 2017, at 14:55, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone know offhand the sizes of the spreader tips on the early rig 
>> > (pre-1985)? I want to put on some spreader boots and having them ready to 
>> > go would make it much easier than having to go up and measure first.
>> >
>> > Jim Watts
>> > Paradigm Shift
>> > C&C 35 Mk III
>> > Victoria, BC
>> > ___
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Stus-List Foam in mast

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I hope this is a common issue, and someone has found an answer. Our old
29-2 and our current 35-3 both have some sort of foam in the mast above the
top halyard exit plate. I was really lucky that I pulled a bundle of new
wires through the foam on the 29, it was really touch and go as to whether
my connections were up to the job. I have no idea how you would get a new
halyard down if you lost it completely, there's no way you could get a
bicycle chain through the foam just with gravity.

So, has anyone figured out an answer? One that preferably worked in the
real world...

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List Spreader boots 1984 C&C 35-3

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I'm having a rigger come out next week to have a look at our standing
rigging and mast, it's all original so I'm sure we'll end up with yet
another horrific bill. I'm seriously considering going to wire instead of
rod, but I'll get quotes on both

Andrew, you're right, I want to pull the mast so I can take the collar off
the deck, fix some voids, and rebed it, plus change all the fixtures and
the wiring, and add spreader boots. Elkhide sounds good, I'll have to see
if I can find some. I have cowhide and deerhide (I think) in storage
somewhere.

That brings up another thought, I'll start a separate thread for that.



Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 7 October 2017 at 12:22, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Especially if you intend to pull the rig, Jim, sewing elkhide boots on is
> remarkably easy. I did that last year with mine and even though I though I
> made a hash of the job, you wouldn't know it from the deck! Mind you, I did
> start with the top set of spreaders first. It's a quick enough job that it
> can be done from a bosun's chair without earring yourself out.
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> > On Oct 7, 2017, at 14:55, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know offhand the sizes of the spreader tips on the early rig
> (pre-1985)? I want to put on some spreader boots and having them ready to
> go would make it much easier than having to go up and measure first.
> >
> > Jim Watts
> > Paradigm Shift
> > C&C 35 Mk III
> > Victoria, BC
> > ___
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Stus-List C&C 35-3 Rudder Drain Holes

[robert via CnC-List]

Neil:

There is probably no one simple answer to your question with water 
intrusion in a ruddera hole or two drilled into the bottom of the 
rudder is always a good place to start.


In my case, my rudder was rebuilt by the original owner just before I 
acquired the boat.  Nevertheless, there were several voids in the rudder 
that didn't get filled in the rebuild.water intrusion is from the 
rudder post as it enters the rudder.so with a moisture meter we 
located the voids (there were 3, 2 on the starboard side and 1 on the 
port side of the rudder).by taping the side of the rudder with a 
small brass hammer, we could fairly accurately figure out the location 
of the void inside..I then drilled one hole into the side of the 
rudder where I thought the bottom of the void was.if right, water 
would appear.it did in all 3 cases.drilled the bottom holes 
upwards approx. 40 degrees..then drilled 3 holes to what I thought 
was the top of the respective voids.down on 40 degree angle.


Water drained from all 3 bottom holes.let the sun hit the rudder for 
a few days to dry everything.no sign of any water weeping from the 
bottom holesplugged the bottom holes with thick wax and then poured 
or rather injected West System resin down the top holes until the voids 
were filled with resin..faired both holes with thickened resin.


Every 3 years I drill a hole in the bottom of the rudder to check for 
water..dry after filling the voids and annually prepping the rudder 
post to rudder with 4200.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-10-07 4:55 PM, schiller via CnC-List wrote:
One of the items in our new C&C 35, Mark III was that there was 
moisture in the rudder and the surveyor suggested drilling drainage 
holes.  Anyone want to suggest the location to drill?  We hauled out 
last night and I am going up to the boat to disconnect batteries on 
Wednesday.  I assume that the drainage holes will be in the lower 
quadrant of the rudder.  Should they be in the side or in the bottom 
surface (or does it really matter.


I never had to do this on my Redwing 35 so this is new to us.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan



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Re: Stus-List C&C 35-3 Rudder Drain Holes

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

We drain the rudder on the 27-3 as follows.
Make  3 drain holes, one high up on the trading edge of the rudder, one 3-4 
inches from the tip, and one on the bottom of the rudder. We drilled 1/4 in 
holes and then tapped them to accept hex-head cap screws.
Water comes out in the fall, cold weather takes care of residual moisture. 
Re-insert in spring with a flexible sealant on the screws. Has worked for 20 
years.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:56 PM, schiller via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

One of the items in our new C&C 35, Mark III was that there was moisture in the 
rudder and the surveyor suggested drilling drainage holes.  Anyone want to 
suggest the location to drill?  We hauled out last night and I am going up to 
the boat to disconnect batteries on Wednesday.  I assume that the drainage 
holes will be in the lower quadrant of the rudder.  Should they be in the side 
or in the bottom surface (or does it really matter.

I never had to do this on my Redwing 35 so this is new to us.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan

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Re: Stus-List C&C 35-3 Rudder Drain Holes

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Neil,

My 35-1 came with holes already drilled, on the side in the lower aft 
corner.  I put 4200 in them in the spring, remove it in the fall.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY




On 10/7/2017 3:55 PM, schiller via CnC-List wrote:
One of the items in our new C&C 35, Mark III was that there was 
moisture in the rudder and the surveyor suggested drilling drainage 
holes.  Anyone want to suggest the location to drill?  We hauled out 
last night and I am going up to the boat to disconnect batteries on 
Wednesday.  I assume that the drainage holes will be in the lower 
quadrant of the rudder. Should they be in the side or in the bottom 
surface (or does it really matter.


I never had to do this on my Redwing 35 so this is new to us.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan



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Stus-List C&C 35-3 Rudder Drain Holes

[schiller via CnC-List]

One of the items in our new C&C 35, Mark III was that there was moisture 
in the rudder and the surveyor suggested drilling drainage holes.  
Anyone want to suggest the location to drill?  We hauled out last night 
and I am going up to the boat to disconnect batteries on Wednesday.  I 
assume that the drainage holes will be in the lower quadrant of the 
rudder. Should they be in the side or in the bottom surface (or does it 
really matter.


I never had to do this on my Redwing 35 so this is new to us.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan

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Re: Stus-List Spreader boots 1984 C&C 35-3

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Especially if you intend to pull the rig, Jim, sewing elkhide boots on is 
remarkably easy. I did that last year with mine and even though I though I made 
a hash of the job, you wouldn't know it from the deck! Mind you, I did start 
with the top set of spreaders first. It's a quick enough job that it can be 
done from a bosun's chair without earring yourself out.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 14:55, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know offhand the sizes of the spreader tips on the early rig 
> (pre-1985)? I want to put on some spreader boots and having them ready to go 
> would make it much easier than having to go up and measure first. 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
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Stus-List Spreader boots 1984 C&C 35-3

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Does anyone know offhand the sizes of the spreader tips on the early rig
(pre-1985)? I want to put on some spreader boots and having them ready to
go would make it much easier than having to go up and measure first.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 Shade

[Joseph Bognar via CnC-List]

I sent you a photo of the set up on my 30 . I have a removable panel between 
the dodger and Bimini for the main sheet while sailing . I had a handle across 
the rear of the dodger and one on each side also . I have side gates in my 
lifelines. It helps when getting on board 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On Oct 7, 2017, at 7:38 AM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a Bimini and Dodger on my 30-1. The Bimini is made by Genco Marine 
> (they have made tons of these for C&Cs have patterns on file) and Dodger is 
> custom made locally by Bacon Sails. The Bimini is attached to the rail and 
> has slots for my double backstay adjustor... 
> 
> I will dig up some photos for you...  
> 
> Cheers,
> Aaron
> Admiral Maggie
> 79 30-1
> Annapolis, MD
> 
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:21 PM, Steven A. Demore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Curious as to whether anybody has a bimini/dodger on a 30 MK1 and if so, how 
>> it is built.  Looking to put one on my boat, but with the low boom and the 
>> main sheet in the middle of the cockpit, not sure how it would be laid out. 
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>>  
>> SV Doin’ It Right
>> 1973 C&C 30 MK1
>> Pasadena, MD
>> 
>>  
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Re: Stus-List Re George Cuthbertson

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Joe

 

Photos sent and a great idea.  Many thanks for pulling this together

 

 

John and Maryann Read

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della 
Barba via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 10:07 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joe Della Barba
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re George Cuthbertson

 

Send them to my home address – j...@dellabarba.com

Bigger the better, no need to shrink them down.

Please put George Cuthbertson Photo in the subject. 

Also write a brief note about you and your boat and I’ll work the text in 
someplace TBD.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com

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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 MK1 Shade

[Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List]

I have a Bimini and Dodger on my 30-1. The Bimini is made by Genco Marine (they 
have made tons of these for C&Cs have patterns on file) and Dodger is custom 
made locally by Bacon Sails. The Bimini is attached to the rail and has slots 
for my double backstay adjustor...

I will dig up some photos for you...

Cheers,
Aaron
Admiral Maggie
79 30-1
Annapolis, MD

On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:21 PM, Steven A. Demore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Curious as to whether anybody has a bimini/dodger on a 30 MK1 and if so, how it 
is built.  Looking to put one on my boat, but with the low boom and the main 
sheet in the middle of the cockpit, not sure how it would be laid out.

Thanks,
Steve

SV Doin’ It Right
1973 C&C 30 MK1
Pasadena, MD

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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 Shade

[Rick Scott via CnC-List]

I have both a dodger and a Bimini on my 30.  The Bimini frame is attached to
the rear pulpit.  It will provide shade for the helmsman and extends from
the rear of the boom back to the stern.

 

Rick

C&C 30 

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Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show.

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

I’m working at the show in Tent C with my dealer Sail Care through Sunday 
afternoon.
Saw Joel yesterday when he stopped by.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram,MA

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> On Oct 6, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will be there Monday.
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fry 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 10:56 AM
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Brian Fry 
> Subject: Stus-List Annapolis boat show.
>  
> Anyone coming to the show? I am at Baysail in vacation basin. Stop and say hi.
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