Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Jim Giffing via CnC-List]

Sadly American Family does not seem to cover the Chesapeake. :(

Jim
S/V Strong Tower
1977 C&C 29 MK 1
North East, MD

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:00 PM,  wrote:

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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 08:51:25 -0800
> From: "Larry" 
> To: 
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> I am super impressed with their rates and service.
>
> My boat was hit at the dock three days after I took delivery, Thank god
> for surveys, the owner of the boat attempted to claim they did not do the
> damage. The Survey and witness saved the day. I paid to have the boat
> repaired immediately (right at the water line) and American Family wrote me
> a check and then had the other persons insurance for their cost. Zero
> effect on my coverage or rates.
>
> Like I said: just under 500 a year, 500 dollar deductible and one million
> coverage in liability damages.
>
> However they did not want to ensure my ZX14R sport bike. But not too many
> do.
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Reinardy via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Jim Reinardy
> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>
>
>
> Larry,
>
>
>
> American Family is based here in Wisconsin and I can second your opinion.
> I have had all of my insurance with them, including the boat for nearly 30
> years.
>
>
>
> Jim Reinardy
>
> C&C 30-2 ?Firewater?
>
> Milwaukee, WI
>
>
>
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> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:55 AM -0600, "Larry via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> When I purchased my boat I did a lot of shopping around.
>
> I went with American Family Insurance. Fantastic company. If I could have
> them for all my insurance needs, I would. But I have had my home and auto
> with Geico for over 40 years and my discounts cannot be beat.
>
> My boat insurance is through American and is 485 a year and on 80k value
> boat, with one million on damages. US Boat, Geico and the rest were half
> again if not double.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
> Aronson via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:41 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Joel Aronson
> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>
>
>
> Seaworthy is owned by Warren Buffet. They are the carrier for BoatUS. I
> had a similar experience.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:32 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> When I was shopping for insurance for our current boat, $85k value, boat
> us was the highest.  I went with a company called seaworthy (just a
> coincidence).  They were 1/2 what boat us wanted.  They have since been
> bought by gieco which now owns boat us I'm told.   Strange...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
>
> Date: 2/3/18 9:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> Cc: svrebeccaleah 
>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>
>
>
> I am with Red Sield $850 for $60k. This is also live aboard, think my
> deductible is $1000.
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
>
> Rebecca Leah
>
> LF39
>
> POYC, WA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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>
>
>  Original message 
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> From: ahycrace ahycrace via CnC-List 
>
> Date: 2/3/18 12:50 (GMT-08:00)
>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> Cc: ahycrace ahycrace 
>
> Subject: Stus-List insurance
>
>
>
> Hello all
>
>Well I just got my insurance bill from boat US and it went
> up 238$  a pretty big increase.  I called to ask why and they said it was
> nothing on my end rates just went up.  I am wondering if everybody else got
> raised as well?  I tried to increase my deductible  which is zero, to say
> 4% or so to lower my rates. They said they can't do that because they have
> a automatic lowering of the deductible over time and once it reaches zero
> it must stay there. Sounds like they just want to keep the bill up! 1100$
> for 40k, might have to start shopping, any feedback?
>
>
>
>  Gary K
> "Liberty"  1976  38'  MKll
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this

Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

My agent booked my policy through Hagerty as a “classic boat”.  I’m limited to 
200 miles offshore and runs about $800 but it hasn’t gone up in 3 years.  By 
having both a classic boat and car policy, my Triumph Spitfire insures for $85 
per year for full coverage.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram MA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Jim Giffing via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Sadly American Family does not seem to cover the Chesapeake. :(
> 
> Jim
> S/V Strong Tower
> 1977 C&C 29 MK 1
> North East, MD
> 
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>>1. Re:  insurance (Larry)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 08:51:25 -0800
>> From: "Larry" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>> Message-ID: <003a01d39dd8$65bbce60$31336b20$@comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I am super impressed with their rates and service.
>> 
>> My boat was hit at the dock three days after I took delivery, Thank god for 
>> surveys, the owner of the boat attempted to claim they did not do the 
>> damage. The Survey and witness saved the day. I paid to have the boat 
>> repaired immediately (right at the water line) and American Family wrote me 
>> a check and then had the other persons insurance for their cost. Zero effect 
>> on my coverage or rates.
>> 
>> Like I said: just under 500 a year, 500 dollar deductible and one million 
>> coverage in liability damages.
>> 
>> However they did not want to ensure my ZX14R sport bike. But not too many do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
>> Reinardy via CnC-List
>> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:30 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Jim Reinardy
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Larry,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> American Family is based here in Wisconsin and I can second your opinion.  I 
>> have had all of my insurance with them, including the boat for nearly 30 
>> years.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jim Reinardy
>> 
>> C&C 30-2 ?Firewater?
>> 
>> Milwaukee, WI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:55 AM -0600, "Larry via CnC-List" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> When I purchased my boat I did a lot of shopping around.
>> 
>> I went with American Family Insurance. Fantastic company. If I could have 
>> them for all my insurance needs, I would. But I have had my home and auto 
>> with Geico for over 40 years and my discounts cannot be beat.
>> 
>> My boat insurance is through American and is 485 a year and on 80k value 
>> boat, with one million on damages. US Boat, Geico and the rest were half 
>> again if not double.
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
>> Aronson via CnC-List
>> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:41 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Joel Aronson
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Seaworthy is owned by Warren Buffet. They are the carrier for BoatUS. I had 
>> a similar experience.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:32 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> When I was shopping for insurance for our current boat, $85k value, boat us 
>> was the highest.  I went with a company called seaworthy (just a 
>> coincidence).  They were 1/2 what boat us wanted.  They have since been 
>> bought by gieco which now owns boat us I'm told.   Strange...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> 
>> From: svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
>> 
>> Date: 2/3/18 9:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> Cc: svrebeccaleah 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am with Red Sield $850 for $60k. This is also live aboard, think my 
>> deductible is $1000.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Doug Mountjoy
>> 
>> Rebecca Leah
>> 
>> LF39
>> 
>> POYC, WA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> 
>> From: ahycrace ahycrace via CnC-List 
>> 
>> Date: 2/3/18 12:50 (GMT-08:00)
>> 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> Cc: ahycrace ahycrace 
>> 
>> Subject: Stus-List insurance
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all
>> 
>>Well I just got my insurance bill from boat US and it went up 
>> 238$  a pretty big incre

Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

A Triumph Spitfire.  My best buddy in high school had one of those, bright 
yellow.  We tried hard to roll it with high-speed cornering, but never 
succeeded.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My agent booked my policy through Hagerty as a “classic boat”.  I’m limited 
> to 200 miles offshore and runs about $800 but it hasn’t gone up in 3 years.  
> By having both a classic boat and car policy, my Triumph Spitfire insures for 
> $85 per year for full coverage.
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 35 LF
> Padanaram MA
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 5, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Jim Giffing via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> Sadly American Family does not seem to cover the Chesapeake. :(
>> 
>> Jim
>> S/V Strong Tower
>> 1977 C&C 29 MK 1
>> North East, MD
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:00 PM, > > wrote:
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>>1. Re:  insurance (Larry)
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 08:51:25 -0800
>> From: "Larry" mailto:ladoug...@comcast.net>>
>> To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>> Message-ID: <003a01d39dd8$65bbce60$31336b20$@comcast.net 
>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I am super impressed with their rates and service.
>> 
>> My boat was hit at the dock three days after I took delivery, Thank god for 
>> surveys, the owner of the boat attempted to claim they did not do the 
>> damage. The Survey and witness saved the day. I paid to have the boat 
>> repaired immediately (right at the water line) and American Family wrote me 
>> a check and then had the other persons insurance for their cost. Zero effect 
>> on my coverage or rates.
>> 
>> Like I said: just under 500 a year, 500 dollar deductible and one million 
>> coverage in liability damages.
>> 
>> However they did not want to ensure my ZX14R sport bike. But not too many do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:30 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Jim Reinardy
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Larry,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> American Family is based here in Wisconsin and I can second your opinion.  I 
>> have had all of my insurance with them, including the boat for nearly 30 
>> years.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jim Reinardy
>> 
>> C&C 30-2 ?Firewater?
>> 
>> Milwaukee, WI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS >
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:55 AM -0600, "Larry via CnC-List" 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> When I purchased my boat I did a lot of shopping around.
>> 
>> I went with American Family Insurance. Fantastic company. If I could have 
>> them for all my insurance needs, I would. But I have had my home and auto 
>> with Geico for over 40 years and my discounts cannot be beat.
>> 
>> My boat insurance is through American and is 485 a year and on 80k value 
>> boat, with one million on damages. US Boat, Geico and the rest were half 
>> again if not double.
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:41 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Joel Aronson
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Seaworthy is owned by Warren Buffet. They are the carrier for BoatUS. I had 
>> a similar experience.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:32 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> When I was shopping for insurance for our current boat, $85k value, boat us 
>> was the highest.  I went with a company called seaworthy (just a 
>> coincidence).  They were 1/2 what boat us wanted.  They have since been 
>> bought by gieco which now owns boat us I'm told.   Strange...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Or

Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 A great car...I had a couple of Bug-Eye Spritesand an MGA; fun to drive 
but I hated those electric fuel pumps!

 


Richard
s/v/ Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River;



Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Randy Stafford 
Sent: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 11:32 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance


A Triumph Spitfire.  My best buddy in high school had one of those, bright 
yellow.  We tried hard to roll it with high-speed cornering, but never 
succeeded.


Cheers,
Randy



On Feb 5, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:


My agent booked my policy through Hagerty as a “classic boat”.  I’m limited to 
200 miles offshore and runs about $800 but it hasn’t gone up in 3 years.  By 
having both a classic boat and car policy, my Triumph Spitfire insures for $85 
per year for full coverage.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram MA

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 5, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Jim Giffing via CnC-List  
wrote:





Sadly American Family does not seem to cover the Chesapeake. :(


Jim

S/V Strong Tower

1977 C&C 29 MK 1

North East, MD



On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:00 PM,   wrote:

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   1. Re:  insurance (Larry)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 08:51:25 -0800
From: "Larry" 
To: 
Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
Message-ID: <003a01d39dd8$65bbce60$31336b20$@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I am super impressed with their rates and service.

My boat was hit at the dock three days after I took delivery, Thank god for 
surveys, the owner of the boat attempted to claim they did not do the damage. 
The Survey and witness saved the day. I paid to have the boat repaired 
immediately (right at the water line) and American Family wrote me a check and 
then had the other persons insurance for their cost. Zero effect on my coverage 
or rates.

Like I said: just under 500 a year, 500 dollar deductible and one million 
coverage in liability damages.

However they did not want to ensure my ZX14R sport bike. But not too many do.



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:30 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jim Reinardy
Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance



Larry,



American Family is based here in Wisconsin and I can second your opinion.  I 
have had all of my insurance with them, including the boat for nearly 30 years.



Jim Reinardy

C&C 30-2 ?Firewater?

Milwaukee, WI



Get Outlook for iOS 





On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:55 AM -0600, "Larry via CnC-List" 
 wrote:

When I purchased my boat I did a lot of shopping around.

I went with American Family Insurance. Fantastic company. If I could have them 
for all my insurance needs, I would. But I have had my home and auto with Geico 
for over 40 years and my discounts cannot be beat.

My boat insurance is through American and is 485 a year and on 80k value boat, 
with one million on damages. US Boat, Geico and the rest were half again if not 
double.

Just my 2 cents



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:41 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance



Seaworthy is owned by Warren Buffet. They are the carrier for BoatUS. I had a 
similar experience.



On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:32 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:

When I was shopping for insurance for our current boat, $85k value, boat us was 
the highest.  I went with a company called seaworthy (just a coincidence).  
They were 1/2 what boat us wanted.  They have since been bought by gieco which 
now owns boat us I'm told.   Strange...







Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device



 Original message 

From: svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 

Date: 2/3/18 9:39 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: svrebeccaleah 

Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance



I am with Red Sield $850 for $60k. This is also live aboard, think my 
deductible is $1000.



Doug Mountjoy

Rebecca Leah

LF39

POYC, WA









Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device



 Original message 

From: ahycrace ahycrace via CnC-List 

Date: 2/3/18 12:50 (GMT-08:00)

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: ahycrace ahycrace 

Subject: Stus-

Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a straight 
answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over from BoatUS) is 
nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend with the same 
deductibles and coverage.

This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high for 
my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1% deductible and 
$500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes and tributaries.  
My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it moved to Geico it went up 
to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for $571.00.

In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that my 
renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in the 
$750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the online 
quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover me on a 
new policy.

After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the agent 
just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.

I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My agent booked my policy through Hagerty as a “classic boat”.  I’m limited 
> to 200 miles offshore and runs about $800 but it hasn’t gone up in 3 years.  
> By having both a classic boat and car policy, my Triumph Spitfire insures for 
> $85 per year for full coverage.
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 35 LF
> Padanaram MA
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 Good for you Fred!  I am going to do likewise!

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River:


Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Sent: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 11:52 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance


I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a straight 
answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over from BoatUS) is 
nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend with the same 
deductibles and coverage.


This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high for 
my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1% deductible and 
$500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes and tributaries.  
My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it moved to Geico it went up 
to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for $571.00.



In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that my 
renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in the 
$750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the online 
quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover me on a 
new policy.


After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the agent 
just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.


I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…


— Fred




Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:


My agent booked my policy through Hagerty as a “classic boat”.  I’m limited to 
200 miles offshore and runs about $800 but it hasn’t gone up in 3 years.  By 
having both a classic boat and car policy, my Triumph Spitfire insures for $85 
per year for full coverage.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram MA

Sent from my iPhone






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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I know of people that have got their boats added on to their homeowner’s for 
cheap. This can backfire when the insurance company has absolutely no clue what 
salvage or oil spill means.

Joe
Coquina


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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a straight 
answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over from BoatUS) is 
nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend with the same 
deductibles and coverage. 

This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high for 
my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1% deductible and 
$500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes and tributaries.  
My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it moved to Geico it went up 
to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for $571.00.


In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that my 
renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in the 
$750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the online 
quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover me on a 
new policy.

After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the agent 
just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.

I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…

— Fred



Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


  On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  My agent booked my policy through Hagerty as a “classic boat”.  I’m limited 
to 200 miles offshore and runs about $800 but it hasn’t gone up in 3 years.  By 
having both a classic boat and car policy, my Triumph Spitfire insures for $85 
per year for full coverage.
  Chuck Gilchrest 
  S/V Half Magic
  1983 35 LF
  Padanaram MA

  Sent from my iPhone




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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Once Geico finds out I started an avalanche, they’re going to raise my rates 
again…

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.
>  
> From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Frederick G Street 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
>  
> I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a 
> straight answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over from 
> BoatUS) is nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend with 
> the same deductibles and coverage. 
>  
> This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high 
> for my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1% deductible 
> and $500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes and 
> tributaries.  My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it moved to 
> Geico it went up to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for $571.00.
>  
> In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that my 
> renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in the 
> $750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the 
> online quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover 
> me on a new policy.
>  
> After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the 
> agent just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.
>  
> I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…
>  
> — Fred
>  
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

We'll just call and tell them "we want "Fred's deal"...!

 

 


Richard

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Sent: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance


Once Geico finds out I started an avalanche, they’re going to raise my rates 
again…


— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.

 

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

 
I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a straight 
answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over from BoatUS) is 
nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend with the same 
deductibles and coverage. 
 
This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high for 
my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1% deductible and 
$500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes and tributaries.  
My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it moved to Geico it went up 
to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for $571.00.

 
In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that my 
renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in the 
$750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the online 
quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover me on a 
new policy.
 
After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the agent 
just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.
 
I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…
 
— Fred

 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(






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Re: Stus-List Question: Radar reflector vs. active radar

[David Castor via CnC-List]

Check the Practical Sailor archives.  They tested radar reflectors and
found none of them were really very effective, IIRC.  But better than
nothing.  Also, even if your active radar did help make you more visible,
you'd have to have it on.

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 1:29 AM, Damian Greene via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> One of the fellow members of our UK yacht club (Reading Offshore Sailing
> Club) has a funny story about entering Le Havre in fog with their active
> radar reflector. Based on the size of their echo, the other traffic was
> expecting a much bigger ship entering the channel, and had cleared out of
> the way.
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2018, 6:23:21 PM GMT, Frederick G Street via
> CnC-List  wrote:
>
>
> That’s one of the more weird things I’ve heard… radars are specifically
> designed to try to filter out any signals not their own.
>
> Other boats might have something like the CARD system aboard to pick up
> other vessels’ radar:
>
> http://nordkyndesign.com/collision-avoidance-at-sea-ais-alarm-project/
>
> But those systems haven’t been available new for a decade.  The other type
> of device that you could have on your vessel to help other radar-equipped
> vessels see you better would be an active radar target augmentation system
> like the Echo-Max:
>
> https://www.echomax.co.uk/radar-target-enhancers-x-band-dual-band.html
>
> Or a Search and Rescue Transponder (SART):
>
> http://www.offshoreblue.com/safety/sart.php
>
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Feb 2, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Damian Greene via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Here's a question for your collective wisdom:
>
> We regularly have fog here in Maine, and my normal practice is to hoist a
> Davis emergency radar reflector in the shrouds (so I hopefully will not get
> run over by a lobster boat). So this year I decided to get the yard to
> mount an EchoMax reflector on the mast, and be better prepared.
>
> However, reviewing my work-list with the yard maintenance manager
> yesterday, he asked why I was doing this, as I have radar, and the signal
> from my radome would light up on other boats' radar better than a reflector.
>
> That's something I've never heard before, so I told him I would
> investigate and get back on that. Frankly, this does not make a lot of
> sense - why would people bother with radar reflectors - but he has more
> than 20 years' experience with Hinckley and others.
>
> I'd like a definitive answer (Fred?) to resolve this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damian Greene
>
> ex C&C 34 Ghost
> now Sabre 38 Freefall
> Bass Harbor, Maine
>
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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I assume you saw my e-mail note over the weekend where I went through GEICO’s 
on-line quote process.  In my case, in 2017 I paid a $1040 annual premium 
versus a $523 on-line quote for the same or better coverage (and slightly 
higher hull value).  All you did was remind me about the call I planned to make.

Besides, I’m not going to rat you out.

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 1:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

Once Geico finds out I started an avalanche, they’re going to raise my rates 
again… 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


  On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.

  From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List
  Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Frederick G Street
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

  I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a 
straight answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over from 
BoatUS) is nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend with 
the same deductibles and coverage.  

  This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high 
for my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1% deductible 
and $500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes and 
tributaries.  My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it moved to 
Geico it went up to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for $571.00.


  In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that my 
renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in the 
$750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the online 
quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover me on a 
new policy.

  After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the 
agent just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.

  I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…

  — Fred



  Fred Street -- Minneapolis
  S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(




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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[David via CnC-List]

So let me understand this...Geico current premium is $1040 vs. an online quote 
from Geico of $523...???


David F. Risch

(401) 419-4650 (cell)



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 1:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

I assume you saw my e-mail note over the weekend where I went through GEICO’s 
on-line quote process.  In my case, in 2017 I paid a $1040 annual premium 
versus a $523 on-line quote for the same or better coverage (and slightly 
higher hull value).  All you did was remind me about the call I planned to make.

Besides, I’m not going to rat you out.

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 1:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

Once Geico finds out I started an avalanche, they’re going to raise my rates 
again…

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a straight 
answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over from BoatUS) is 
nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend with the same 
deductibles and coverage.

This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high for 
my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1% deductible and 
$500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes and tributaries.  
My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it moved to Geico it went up 
to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for $571.00.

In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that my 
renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in the 
$750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the online 
quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover me on a 
new policy.

After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the agent 
just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.

I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Whatever the traffic will bear, I guess!
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:18 PM, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> So let me understand this...Geico current premium is $1040 vs. an online
> quote from Geico of $523...???
>
>
> David F. Risch
>
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L.
> Wolford via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, February 5, 2018 1:44 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Matthew L. Wolford
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
>
> I assume you saw my e-mail note over the weekend where I went through
> GEICO’s on-line quote process.  In my case, in 2017 I paid a $1040 annual
> premium versus a $523 on-line quote for the same or better coverage (and
> slightly higher hull value).  All you did was remind me about the call I
> planned to make.
>
> Besides, I’m not going to rat you out.
>
> *From:* Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, February 05, 2018 1:26 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Frederick G Street 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
>
> Once Geico finds out I started an avalanche, they’re going to raise my
> rates again…
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.
>
> *From:* Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Frederick G Street 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
>
> I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a
> straight answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over
> from BoatUS) is nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the
> weekend with the same deductibles and coverage.
>
> This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high
> for my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1%
> deductible and $500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes
> and tributaries.  My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it
> moved to Geico it went up to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for
> $571.00.
>
> In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that
> my renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere
> in the $750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at
> the online quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d
> cover me on a new policy.
>
> After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the
> agent just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.
>
> I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…
>
> — Fred
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[ahycrace ahycrace via CnC-List]

I called back again and they went from 1125$ to 1092$ for 40k still way to 
much. I talked to an agent at the providence boat show (maritime insurance 
int.) and he agreed that boat US was unusually high. I will talk to him next 
week and he will have quotes for me maybe an agent is the way to go. Thanks for 
all the responses this is a very good discussion. I'll report as soon as i have 
more info to share.

Gary K "Liberty" 1976 38' MKII


> On February 5, 2018 at 3:29 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whatever the traffic will bear, I guess!
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> 
> ~~~ _/ )~~
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:18 PM, David via CnC-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > So let me understand this...Geico current premium is 
> $1040 vs. an online quote from Geico of $523...???
> > 
> > 
> > David F. Risch
> > 
> > (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > From: CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford via 
> > CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> > Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 1:44 PM
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
> > 
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
> >  
> > I assume you saw my e-mail note over the weekend where I went 
> > through GEICO’s on-line quote process.  In my case, in 2017 I paid a $1040 
> > annual premium versus a $523 on-line quote for the same or better coverage 
> > (and slightly higher hull value).  All you did was remind me about the call 
> > I planned to make.
> >  
> > Besides, I’m not going to rat you out.
> >  
> > From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 1:26 PM
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: Frederick G Street mailto:f...@postaudio.net
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
> >  
> > Once Geico finds out I started an avalanche, they’re going to raise 
> > my rates again…
> >  
> > — Fred
> > 
> > Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   
> > :^(
> > 
> > 
> > > > > On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Matthew L. 
> > Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
> > wrote:
> > >  
> > > Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.
> > >  
> > > From:   Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > > Sent:  Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM
> > > To:   cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > > Cc:   Frederick G Street mailto:f...@postaudio.net
> > > Subject:  Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
> > >  
> > > I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying 
> > > to get a straight answer as to why the premium for my current policy 
> > > (rolled over from BoatUS) is nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online 
> > > over the weekend with the same deductibles and coverage.  
> > >  
> > > This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know 
> > > that’s really high for my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change 
> > > it…), with 1% deductible and $500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on 
> > > the Great Lakes and tributaries.  My BoatUS premium was a little under 
> > > $700.00; when it moved to Geico it went up to $852.00.  The quote I got 
> > > online was for $571.00.
> > >  
> > > In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the 
> > > phone said that my renewal coming in March was going to be less than last 
> > > year; somewhere in the $750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and 
> > > get insurance at the online quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey 
> > > done before they’d cover me on a new policy.
> > >  
> > > After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my 
> > > policy, the agent just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.
> > >  
> > > I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…
> > >  
> > > — Fred
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> > > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in 
> > > Bayfield, WI   :^(
> > > 
> > > > >  
> > 
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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Yes.  2017 BoatUS premium (now GEICO) for $1040; GEICO online quote for 
substantially the same policy $523.  I spoke with a GEICO rep about this today, 
and she is discussing the matter with her supervisor and an underwriter, and 
said she would get back to me today.  Also, my years of experience did not 
match between my online quote app (which reflected more years) and my policy, 
so I wonder if that type of information remains static in their system based on 
the original application.

From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:29 PM
To: C&C List 
Cc: Gary Russell 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

Whatever the traffic will bear, I guess! 
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~



On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:18 PM, David via CnC-List  
wrote:

  So let me understand this...Geico current premium is $1040 vs. an online 
quote from Geico of $523...???




  David F. Risch


  (401) 419-4650 (cell)






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  From: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List 
  Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 1:44 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 

  Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

  I assume you saw my e-mail note over the weekend where I went through GEICO’s 
on-line quote process.  In my case, in 2017 I paid a $1040 annual premium 
versus a $523 on-line quote for the same or better coverage (and slightly 
higher hull value).  All you did was remind me about the call I planned to make.

  Besides, I’m not going to rat you out.

  From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
  Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 1:26 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Frederick G Street 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

  Once Geico finds out I started an avalanche, they’re going to raise my rates 
again… 

  — Fred


  Fred Street -- Minneapolis
  S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to get a 
straight answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over from 
BoatUS) is nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend with 
the same deductibles and coverage.  

This is on an agreed hull value of $50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high 
for my boat, but I haven’t seen any reason to change it…), with 1% deductible 
and $500,000 of liability; and covers sailing on the Great Lakes and 
tributaries.  My BoatUS premium was a little under $700.00; when it moved to 
Geico it went up to $852.00.  The quote I got online was for $571.00.


In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that 
my renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in 
the $750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the 
online quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover 
me on a new policy.

After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my policy, the 
agent just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.

I guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…

— Fred



Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


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Stus-List Where to by a Mastervolt battery charger in the USA

[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

Hi,
I'm looking to replace my charger on my 30-2, it's humming and not charging
properly.

I've decided to look at the Mastervolt Chargemaster 12/35-3 for the 2x
100ah batteries, and similar sized start battery.

I'm not sure where the best place to order is, I have family on vacation in
Texas, so if anyone can suggest a mail order shop, I'll be able to ship it
to them and have them bring it back in March.

Thanks,
Chad
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Re: Stus-List Where to by a Mastervolt battery charger in the USA

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Chad — which model are you looking for?  My marine electronics vendor recently 
added the Mastervolt line, so I can get you (and anyone else on the list) that 
gear at dealer pricing, with very reasonable ground shipping.  Let me know 
off-list if you’re interested in getting pricing.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Chad Osmond via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'm looking to replace my charger on my 30-2, it's humming and not charging 
> properly.
> 
> I've decided to look at the Mastervolt Chargemaster 12/35-3 for the 2x 100ah 
> batteries, and similar sized start battery.
> 
> I'm not sure where the best place to order is, I have family on vacation in 
> Texas, so if anyone can suggest a mail order shop, I'll be able to ship it to 
> them and have them bring it back in March.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chad

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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

To say this thread has been enlightening is a bit of an understatement.  I just 
renewed my ins. 3 months ago so am not in the market until later this year – 
seriously doubt would get a return of premium at this point.  

 

When I was originally looking for boat insurance one of the prime 
considerations was how the company handled claims; the phrase “you get what you 
pay for” was mentioned more than once.  Does anyone have actual claim 
experience with any of these companies which are quoting substantially lower 
premiums than Boat US?  That would include a claim with Geico now that they 
have taken over the Boat US business?  I had a claim 6-7 years ago with the 
predecessor to Geico and the process was very smooth and fair.  

 

Brian

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

 

Yes.  2017 BoatUS premium (now GEICO) for $1040; GEICO online quote for 
substantially the same policy $523.  I spoke with a GEICO rep about this today, 
and she is discussing the matter with her supervisor and an underwriter, and 
said she would get back to me today.  Also, my years of experience did not 
match between my online quote app (which reflected more years) and my policy, 
so I wonder if that type of information remains static in their system based on 
the original application.

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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[jackbrennan via CnC-List]

My C&C 25 was wrecked in a hurricane on Key Biscayne. 

Progressive paid up promptly, allowed me to remove anything I wanted from the 
boat and salvaged the wreckage, which had angered federal park rangers because 
it washed up in a federally protected area for Florida crocodiles.

On the basis of performance, Progressive is great. However, its premiums have 
climbed considerably in the last few years.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.






Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO

 Original message 
From: Nauset Beach via CnC-List  
Date:02/05/2018  4:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Nauset Beach  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance 

To say this thread has been enlightening is a bit of an understatement.  I just 
renewed my ins. 3 months ago so am not in the market until later this year – 
seriously doubt would get a return of premium at this point. 
 
When I was originally looking for boat insurance one of the prime 
considerations was how the company handled claims; the phrase “you get what you 
pay for” was mentioned more than once.  Does anyone have actual claim 
experience with any of these companies which are quoting substantially lower 
premiums than Boat US?  That would include a claim with Geico now that they 
have taken over the Boat US business?  I had a claim 6-7 years ago with the 
predecessor to Geico and the process was very smooth and fair. 
 
Brian
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
 
Yes.  2017 BoatUS premium (now GEICO) for $1040; GEICO online quote for 
substantially the same policy $523.  I spoke with a GEICO rep about this today, 
and she is discussing the matter with her supervisor and an underwriter, and 
said she would get back to me today.  Also, my years of experience did not 
match between my online quote app (which reflected more years) and my policy, 
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Stus-List Where to by a Mastervolt battery charger in the USA

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

https://www.fisheriessupply.com/mastervolt-chargemaster-automatic-battery-chargers#AllProductBookMark

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 1:07 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Mastervolt Chargemaster 12/35-
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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Looks like we must be having a hard winter if we are already into the annual 
“Old British Sports Cars” discussion...

 

A friend and I co-owned a Triumph TR4-IRS when we were juniors in high school 
in the mid 60’s. It had webbing straps under the half shafts on the IRS half 
axles to keep you from folding them under the chassis in a hard corner. I think 
before they redesigned the car and called it a Spitfire they improved the rear 
suspension.

 

Now if they had just been able to do something about the Lucas ignition. If the 
neighbor’s dog took a leak in the front yard it was too humid for the Triumph 
to start. Every British Leyland or Triumph owner knows why the British drink 
warm beer… Lucas Refrigerators!

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 11:32 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Randy Stafford 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

 

A Triumph Spitfire.  My best buddy in high school had one of those, bright 
yellow.  We tried hard to roll it with high-speed cornering, but never 
succeeded.

 

Cheers,

Randy

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

My claims experience with BoatUS was outstanding.  That was before the change 
to Geico, so I don’t know if there will be a noticeable difference.

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Nauset Beach via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 4:50:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nauset Beach
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

To say this thread has been enlightening is a bit of an understatement.  I just 
renewed my ins. 3 months ago so am not in the market until later this year – 
seriously doubt would get a return of premium at this point.

When I was originally looking for boat insurance one of the prime 
considerations was how the company handled claims; the phrase “you get what you 
pay for” was mentioned more than once.  Does anyone have actual claim 
experience with any of these companies which are quoting substantially lower 
premiums than Boat US?  That would include a claim with Geico now that they 
have taken over the Boat US business?  I had a claim 6-7 years ago with the 
predecessor to Geico and the process was very smooth and fair.

Brian

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

Yes.  2017 BoatUS premium (now GEICO) for $1040; GEICO online quote for 
substantially the same policy $523.  I spoke with a GEICO rep about this today, 
and she is discussing the matter with her supervisor and an underwriter, and 
said she would get back to me today.  Also, my years of experience did not 
match between my online quote app (which reflected more years) and my policy, 
so I wonder if that type of information remains static in their system based on 
the original application.
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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

my first car was an MGA.  Almost the most fun car I had, despite the lack of 
power.

Leslie.


On Mon, 2/5/18, bushmark4--- via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: bushma...@aol.com
 Date: Monday, February 5, 2018, 8:35 AM
 
 
  A great car...I had a couple of
 Bug-Eye Spritesand an MGA; fun to drive but I hated
 those electric fuel pumps!
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 
 
 s/v/ Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River;
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Richard N. Bush 
 
 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
 
 Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
 
 502-584-7255
 
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 -Original
 Message-
 
 From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List
 
 
 To: cnc-list 
 
 Cc: Randy Stafford 
 
 Sent: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 11:32 am
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 A Triumph Spitfire.  My best
 buddy in high school had one of those, bright yellow.  We
 tried hard to roll it with high-speed cornering, but never
 succeeded.
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Randy
 
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via
 CnC-List 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 My agent booked my policy through Hagerty as a
 “classic boat”.  I’m limited to 200 miles offshore
 and runs about $800 but it hasn’t gone up in 3 years.  By
 having both a classic boat and car policy, my Triumph
 Spitfire insures for $85 per year for full coverage.
 
 Chuck Gilchrest 
 S/V Half Magic
 
 1983 35 LF
 
 Padanaram MA
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Jim Giffing via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sadly American Family does not seem to cover the
 Chesapeake. :(
 
 
 
 
 Jim
 
 
 S/V Strong Tower
 
 
 1977 C&C 29 MK 1
 
 
 North East, MD
 
 
 
 
 
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 2018 at 12:00 PM,  
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 Message: 1
 
 
 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 08:51:25 -0800
 
 
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 To: 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
 
 
 Message-ID: <003a01d39dd8$65bbce60$ 31336b20$@comcast.net>
 
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
 
 
 
 
 
 I am super impressed with their rates and service.
 
 
 
 
 
 My boat was hit at the dock three days after I took
 delivery, Thank god for surveys, the owner of the boat
 attempted to claim they did not do the damage. The Survey
 and witness saved the day. I paid to have the boat repaired
 immediately (right at the water line) and American Family
 wrote me a check and then had the other persons insurance
 for their cost. Zero effect on my coverage or rates.
 
 
 
 
 
 Like I said: just under 500 a year, 500 dollar deductible
 and one million coverage in liability damages.
 
 
 
 
 
 However they did not want to ensure my ZX14R sport bike. But
 not too many do.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-bounces@cnc-
 list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy via CnC-List
 
 
 Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:30 AM
 
 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 
 
 Cc: Jim Reinardy
 
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Larry,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 American Family is based here in Wisconsin and I can second
 your opinion.  I have had all of my insurance with them,
 including the boat for nearly 30 years.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jim Reinardy
 
 
 
 
 
 C&C 30-2 ?Firewater?
 
 
 
 
 
 Milwaukee, WI
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Get Outlook for iOS 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:55 AM -0600, "Larry via
 CnC-List" 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 When I purchased my boat I did a lot of shopping around.
 
 
 
 
 
 I went with American Family Insurance. Fantastic company. If
 I could have them for all my insurance needs, I would. But I
 have had my home and auto with Geico for over 40 years and
 my discounts cannot be beat.
 
 
 
 
 
 My boat insurance is through American and is 485 a year and
 on 80k value boat, with one million on damages. US Boat,
 Geico and the rest were half again if not double.
 
 
 
 
 
 Just my 2 cents
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-bounces@cnc-
 list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List
 
 
 Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:41 AM
 
 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 
 
 Cc: Joel Aronson
 
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Seaworthy is owned by Warren Buffet. They are the carrier
 for BoatU

Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

C'mon guys.  Let's not start this again.  This is a C&C list, not an
automobile list.

Alan Bergen

Alan


On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> my first car was an MGA.  Almost the most fun car I had, despite the lack
> of power.
>
> Leslie.
>
> 
> On Mon, 2/5/18, bushmark4--- via CnC-List  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
>  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>  Cc: bushma...@aol.com
>  Date: Monday, February 5, 2018, 8:35 AM
>
>
>   A great car...I had a couple of
>  Bug-Eye Spritesand an MGA; fun to drive but I hated
>  those electric fuel pumps!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Richard
>
>
>  s/v/ Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River;
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Richard N. Bush
>
>  2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>
>  Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
>
>  502-584-7255
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  -Original
>  Message-
>
>  From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List
>  
>
>  To: cnc-list 
>
>  Cc: Randy Stafford 
>
>  Sent: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 11:32 am
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  A Triumph Spitfire.  My best
>  buddy in high school had one of those, bright yellow.  We
>  tried hard to roll it with high-speed cornering, but never
>  succeeded.
>
>
>
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Randy
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Feb 5, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via
>  CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>  My agent booked my policy through Hagerty as a
>  “classic boat”.  I’m limited to 200 miles offshore
>  and runs about $800 but it hasn’t gone up in 3 years.  By
>  having both a classic boat and car policy, my Triumph
>  Spitfire insures for $85 per year for full coverage.
>
>  Chuck Gilchrest
>  S/V Half Magic
>
>  1983 35 LF
>
>  Padanaram MA
>
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>  On Feb 5, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Jim Giffing via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Sadly American Family does not seem to cover the
>  Chesapeake. :(
>
>
>
>
>  Jim
>
>
>  S/V Strong Tower
>
>
>  1977 C&C 29 MK 1
>
>
>  North East, MD
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Sun, Feb 4,
>  2018 at 12:00 PM,  
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>  Message: 1
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>  Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 08:51:25 -0800
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>  From: "Larry" 
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>  To: 
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>  Subject: Re: Stus-List insurance
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>
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>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
>
>
>  I am super impressed with their rates and service.
>
>
>
>
>
>  My boat was hit at the dock three days after I took
>  delivery, Thank god for surveys, the owner of the boat
>  attempted to claim they did not do the damage. The Survey
>  and witness saved the day. I paid to have the boat repaired
>  immediately (right at the water line) and American Family
>  wrote me a check and then had the other persons insurance
>  for their cost. Zero effect on my coverage or rates.
>
>
>
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Stus-List Battery charger

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Looking to replace current prosport12. I carry 4 batteries.  1 for starter and 
remaining 3 are house.Promariner suggests the prosport 20+. (Will control 3)put 
the house batteries on it use the prospprt 12 to maintain the starter battery. 
My biggest user would be the norcold refrig. Other than standard radio and 
lites.My question..prosport 20+ , another brand or another wayJim schwartzSEA 
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Re: Stus-List Where to by a Mastervolt battery charger in the USA

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Heck, I can beat that.  $395.00 plus $15.00 UPS Ground.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 4:40 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.fisheriessupply.com/mastervolt-chargemaster-automatic-battery-chargers#AllProductBookMark
>  
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> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera 
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
> 
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> On Feb 5, 2018, at 1:07 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
>  wrote:
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>> Mastervolt Chargemaster 12/35-
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Re: Stus-List Time to replace the Cutlass/Strut Bearing

[Derek DeVries via CnC-List]

I went down this road last year and ultimately paid a guy to do it for me.
The old bearing had been glued in and even with the shaft already out he
destroyed the threads on his screw press trying to shift it. The bearing
had to come out in pieces. Those extractors are great when they work but
after my experience I wouldn't count on it unless I was the one who
installed the bearing in the first place.


Derek DeVries
The Fifth Day
C&C 35 Mk1
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Stus-List Battery charger made in the USA?

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

So why not the Blue Sea charger:  
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/blue-sea-systems-p12-40-amp-battery-charger-12v-dc-7532
 

also at Fisheries?


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 2:40 35PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
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> https://www.fisheriessupply.com/mastervolt-chargemaster-automatic-battery-chargers#AllProductBookMark
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> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera 
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
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> On Feb 5, 2018, at 1:07 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
>  wrote:
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>> Mastervolt Chargemaster 12/35-
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Re: Stus-List Battery charger

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Hi, Jim — a 20amp charger is pretty minimal for your battery setup and 
electrical needs; typical minimum would be based 0n 10% of your house bank’s 
total amp-hours, which I’d guess to be around 300 amp-hours or so.  So you’d be 
looking at a 30-amp or larger battery charger.

The Mastervolt 35-amp would be a good choice; and I also have some friends who 
have put in the ProMariner ProNauticP 30-amp charger:

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C328%7C2289962%7C2289966&id=1512412
 

Defender sells these for about $360.00; unfortunately I can’t get these at cost 
as my vendor does not carry them.  But they look like a nice charger.  And you 
can get a decent remote for them, as well:

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=promariner-digital-display-and-remote-control&path=-1%7C328%7C2289962%7C2289970&id=1795912
 


The remote options for the Mastervolt use the MasterBus display, which is about 
a $400.00 item.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 7:04 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Looking to replace current prosport12. I carry 4 batteries.  1 for starter 
> and remaining 3 are house.
> Promariner suggests the prosport 20+. (Will control 3)put the house batteries 
> on it use the prospprt 12 to maintain the starter battery. 
> My biggest user would be the norcold refrig. Other than standard radio and 
> lites.
> My question..prosport 20+ , another brand or another way
> Jim schwartz
> SEA YA!
> 38LF 
> washington nc 
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Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

I recently moved from Novamar (brokerage recommended by my broker) to Boat U.S. 
 I have had excellent experience with Boat U.S. over the last 20 years, and 
after Hurricane Irma got us concerned last year, I vowed to re-shop the 
insurance this year and go with a more "known" market.  Boat U.S. was 
previously covered through CNA, but now is Geico due to the ownership by Warren 
Buffett.  However, if my memory serves me correctly, it is Boat U.S. who drives 
the policy language and claims settlement procedures.  Not only that, I 
consider the A.M. Best rating of the carrier, as I'm in the business.
In the end, Boat U.S. was less expensive than the quote from my expiring 
carrier, and given the combination of the Best rating and my experience with 
their claims staff, I stopped looking elsewhere.  

By the way, I stopped by a couple insurance brokers' booths at the St. Pete 
boat show, and gave them opportunities to quote.  They were not competitive.
All this being said, marine insurance, like many other types, is greatly 
impacted by location, value of the boat, year of the boat, etc.  I know some 
brokers that won't even consider quoting until the boat exceeds $10 Million in 
value.  There are also lots of companies that don't want hurricane exposure, 
stay away from Florida, etc.
So, no one solution will work for everyone.  Yet, knowing about all the 
potential alternatives is a great thing, and kudos go to the list for that!

Kindest Regards, 

Bruce Whitmore1994 C&C 37/40+, "Astralis"Madiera Beach, FL

bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
 Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance
   
I assume you saw my e-mail note over the weekend where I went through GEICO’s 
on-line quote process.  In my case, in 2017 I paid a $1040 annual premium 
versus a $523 on-line quote for the same or better coverage (and slightly 
higher hull value).  All you did was remind me about the call I planned to 
make. Besides, I’m not going to rat you out. From: Frederick G Street via 
CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 1:26 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: 
Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Insurance Once Geico finds out I 
started an avalanche, they’re going to raise my rates again…  — Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:    Well done, Fred.  On the phone now.      
From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 11:51 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat 
Insurance   I’ve been on the phone with Geico Marine this morning, trying to 
get a straight answer as to why the premium for my current policy (rolled over 
from BoatUS) is nearly 50% higher than a quote I got online over the weekend 
with the same deductibles and coverage.    This is on an agreed hull value of 
$50,000 (yes, I know that’s really high for my boat, but I haven’t seen any 
reason to change it…), with 1% deductible and $500,000 of liability; and covers 
sailing on the Great Lakes and tributaries.  My BoatUS premium was a little 
under $700.00; when it moved to Geico it went up to $852.00.  The quote I got 
online was for $571.00.
   In my initial conversation this morning, the agent on the phone said that my 
renewal coming in March was going to be less than last year; somewhere in the 
$750.00 range.  She said that I could go ahead and get insurance at the online 
quoted rate, but I would need to get a survey done before they’d cover me on a 
new policy.   After talking at length with an underwriter and reviewing my 
policy, the agent just called back: my renewal in March will cost $494.00.   I 
guess it pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes…   — Fred
     
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
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Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings?

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,
I have a water tank inspection cap that is leaking when the tank is full, and 
the DPO thought it a good idea to apply silicone sealer to all the o-rings on 
all 5 caps>  He also applied silicone sealer to nearly every exterior nut, bolt 
and screw, but that's another story.  Ugh...
Here's some links to a couple photos:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7rcwh7wfwm9nne/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%203.jpg?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/rj310g6xy9nozh1/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%202.jpg?dl=0

Anyone know a source where I can find these caps and their o-rings?
Thank you! Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"Madiera Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings?

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Bruce,  I have similar looking caps, BUT I am 426 miles from the boat.  I took one off and to a local RV dealer and got an exact match, about 5 years ago.Bill Walker1981 Cnc 36Pentwater, Mi.On Feb 5, 2018 9:47 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List  wrote:Hello all,I have a water tank inspection cap that is leaking when the tank is full, and the DPO thought it a good idea to apply silicone sealer to all the o-rings on all 5 caps>  He also applied silicone sealer to nearly every exterior nut, bolt and screw, but that's another story.  Ugh...Here's some links to a couple photos:https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7rcwh7wfwm9nne/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%203.jpg?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/rj310g6xy9nozh1/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%202.jpg?dl=0Anyone know a source where I can find these caps and their o-rings?Thank you! Bruce Whitmore1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"Madiera Beach, FL(847) 404-5092 (mobile)bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net___

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Re: Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings?

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

Try marinesan.com, they are the local marine sanitation dealer here in Seattle. 
Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 POYC, WA


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 Date: 2/5/18  18:47  (GMT-08:00) To: C&C List 
 Cc: Bruce Whitmore  Subject: 
Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings? 
Hello all,
I have a water tank inspection cap that is leaking when the tank is full, and 
the DPO thought it a good idea to apply silicone sealer to all the o-rings on 
all 5 caps>  He also applied silicone sealer to nearly every exterior nut, bolt 
and screw, but that's another story.  Ugh...
Here's some links to a couple photos:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7rcwh7wfwm9nne/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%203.jpg?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/rj310g6xy9nozh1/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%202.jpg?dl=0

Anyone know a source where I can find these caps and their o-rings?
Thank you! Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"Madiera Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings?

[Rick Rohwer via CnC-List]

Curious why you would care if the tank leaked at the top of the tank.  All of 
the water is of full use.  Fresh water in the bilge. 

I assume you aren’t taking water in from the fill points, so you are not 
sinking!

I have a similar (possibly the same) problem (and many others) so I wonder why 
this issue would be a priority!

Rick
37+ Paikea
Tacoma, WA


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 6:55 PM, William Walker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bruce,
>   I have similar looking caps, BUT I am 426 miles from the boat.  I took one 
> off and to a local RV dealer and got an exact match, about 5 years ago.
> Bill Walker
> 1981 Cnc 36
> Pentwater, Mi.
> 
> On Feb 5, 2018 9:47 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have a water tank inspection cap that is leaking when the tank is full, and 
> the DPO thought it a good idea to apply silicone sealer to all the o-rings on 
> all 5 caps>  He also applied silicone sealer to nearly every exterior nut, 
> bolt and screw, but that's another story.  Ugh...
> 
> Here's some links to a couple photos:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7rcwh7wfwm9nne/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%203.jpg?dl=0
>  
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rj310g6xy9nozh1/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%202.jpg?dl=0
>  
> 
> 
> Anyone know a source where I can find these caps and their o-rings?
> 
> Thank you!
>  
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> Madiera Beach, FL
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
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Re: Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings?

[Jonathan Tebbens via CnC-List]

http://www.kracor.com/support/hosefittings.pdf

I found a 3" O ring at a non-marine store in Vancouver many years ago.
cannot remember where. Kracor, who made my tanks has them in their
catalogue.
Jon Tebbens
'78 Mega

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Rick Rohwer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Curious why you would care if the tank leaked at the top of the tank.  All
> of the water is of full use.  Fresh water in the bilge.
>
> I assume you aren’t taking water in from the fill points, so you are not
> sinking!
>
> I have a similar (possibly the same) problem (and many others) so I wonder
> why this issue would be a priority!
>
> Rick
> 37+ Paikea
> Tacoma, WA
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2018, at 6:55 PM, William Walker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>   I have similar looking caps, BUT I am 426 miles from the boat.  I took
> one off and to a local RV dealer and got an exact match, about 5 years ago.
> Bill Walker
> 1981 Cnc 36
> Pentwater, Mi.
>
> On Feb 5, 2018 9:47 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a water tank inspection cap that is leaking when the tank is full,
> and the DPO thought it a good idea to apply silicone sealer to all the
> o-rings on all 5 caps>  He also applied silicone sealer to nearly every
> exterior nut, bolt and screw, but that's another story.  Ugh...
>
> Here's some links to a couple photos:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7rcwh7wfwm9nne/Cap%20for%
> 20LDP%20Water%20Tank%203.jpg?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rj310g6xy9nozh1/Cap%20for%
> 20LDP%20Water%20Tank%202.jpg?dl=0
>
> 
>
> Anyone know a source where I can find these caps and their o-rings?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> Madiera Beach, FL
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
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Re: Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings?

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

It's not a priority, just one of those things that isn't right, so if it's easy 
to fix, I can take it off the list.  I wonder, however, how much water would 
leak into the bilge when heeled.
Probably an indicator that my to do list is getting shorter... :)


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Rick Rohwer via CnC-List 
 Date: 2/5/18  10:15 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Rohwer  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings? 
Curious why you would care if the tank leaked at the top of the tank.  All of 
the water is of full use.  Fresh water in the bilge. 
I assume you aren’t taking water in from the fill points, so you are not 
sinking!
I have a similar (possibly the same) problem (and many others) so I wonder why 
this issue would be a priority!
Rick37+ PaikeaTacoma, WA


On Feb 5, 2018, at 6:55 PM, William Walker via CnC-List  
wrote:
Bruce,  I have similar looking caps, BUT I am 426 miles from the boat.  I took 
one off and to a local RV dealer and got an exact match, about 5 years ago.Bill 
Walker1981 Cnc 36Pentwater, Mi.

On Feb 5, 2018 9:47 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List  
wrote:
Hello all,
I have a water tank inspection cap that is leaking when the tank is full, and 
the DPO thought it a good idea to apply silicone sealer to all the o-rings on 
all 5 caps>  He also applied silicone sealer to nearly every exterior nut, bolt 
and screw, but that's another story.  Ugh...
Here's some links to a couple photos:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7rcwh7wfwm9nne/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%203.jpg?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/rj310g6xy9nozh1/Cap%20for%20LDP%20Water%20Tank%202.jpg?dl=0

Anyone know a source where I can find these caps and their o-rings?
Thank you! Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"Madiera Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: Stus-List Source for LDP Water Tank Inspection Port Caps & O-Rings?

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

Bruce, I had a similar issue with water leaking from the inspection port cover. 
I purchased some "X" Profile O-rings from Mcmaster.com. This style O ring gives 
you double protection against possible leaks because there are two areas where 
the O ring makes contact with the tank and cover.


Ted Drossos
C&C 110
s/v Lady in Red
Long Island, NY
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