Re: Stus-List 1GM10 Repower

[Michael Clow via CnC-List]

I just had my 2QM15 for my C&C 32 rebuilt over the winter and they did an 
excellent job.  We also had another club member Schooner Bay about 3 or 4 years 
ago and he has been very happy too.  

 

Michael Clow

Desire  , C&C 32, Lake St. Clair

 

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Matt Janssen via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matt Janssen 
Subject: Stus-List 1GM10 Repower

 

About five years into a six month refit and the block in my 1GM10 has let go. 

 

What started off as top end rebuild has "progressed" into a full repower 
project. Given the cramped (shall we say intimate?) engine bay accommodations, 
i am inclined to drop in a 1gm10 reman and hopefully save some of the season. 
Unfortunately, i am having a bit of trouble sourcing one. The only one i've 
been able to find is located at Schooner Bay Marina Wisconsin; full rebuild 
with 1-year warranty.   

 

For anyone who have been through a similar experience - any suggestions on 
vendors and/or lessons learnt the hard way?  Does anyone have any experience 
with Schooner Bay Marina? 

 

best,

matt

 

 

--

Matthew Janssen

C&C 27 MkV 

Eduam

South Amboy, NJ

 

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Re: Stus-List Need Advice on Solar Panel project

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Pete,

for maintenance (topping up the batteries between sailings), you should be fine 
with a small (50 W?) panel that you can put on the bimini (if you have one). I 
have a flexible 25 W panel and it does a decent job (about 1 A of charging 
current in normal circumstances; this could be improved with beefier wiring 
(voltage drop) and possibly with better placing of the panel). I have a much 
smaller battery bank (2 x 55 Ah), so my charging needs are smaller. We don’t 
have any shore power in the Club, so all charging is either the motor or solar. 
But of course, this all depends on how much power you use, so YMWV.

The most important part of the system is the controller. Don’t take any 
shortcuts there. Gensun and Morningstar have very good options available. If 
you are looking ahead, install a controller that can handle more power. But you 
would be hard pressed to find enough space to install enough panel capacity to 
provide more than 10-15 A.

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON

From: kelly petew via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 16:29
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: kelly petew
Subject: Stus-List Need Advice on Solar Panel project

Hello, Listers,
I want to add a solar panel to keep my batteries more fully charged.
But on a 30 ft. C&C, space is somewhat limited.

For starting out, I want the smallest panel possible for battery maintenance, 
but I’d beef up the wiring to handle future power demands.
My house battery bank is 12volt DC, two 130 amp hour, deep cycle, wet-cells, in 
parallel.  My other bank is a hybrid deep cycle [80 amp hours], used for 
starting.
I’ve studied YouTube and other sources.  Also, I’ve tried to contact a west 
coast mfr., Renogy, but I can’t reach anyone there, as yet.

Any and all feedback is much appreciated.

Fair Winds,

Pete W.
Siren Song
‘91C&C 30-2
Deltaville, Va.


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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Need Advice on Solar Panel project

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have a 50 watt panel and a Morningstar controller. It does a decent job 
keeping my battery charged.


Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:24 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Need Advice on Solar Panel project

Pete,

for maintenance (topping up the batteries between sailings), you should be fine 
with a small (50 W?) panel that you can put on the bimini (if you have one). I 
have a flexible 25 W panel and it does a decent job (about 1 A of charging 
current in normal circumstances; this could be improved with beefier wiring 
(voltage drop) and possibly with better placing of the panel). I have a much 
smaller battery bank (2 x 55 Ah), so my charging needs are smaller. We don’t 
have any shore power in the Club, so all charging is either the motor or solar. 
But of course, this all depends on how much power you use, so YMWV.

The most important part of the system is the controller. Don’t take any 
shortcuts there. Gensun and Morningstar have very good options available. If 
you are looking ahead, install a controller that can handle more power. But you 
would be hard pressed to find enough space to install enough panel capacity to 
provide more than 10-15 A.

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Need Advice on Solar Panel project

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I had a 50W panel in an aluminum frame that I set on the sliding hatch when I 
left the boat and plugged into an outlet I put near the engine controls.   
Worked fine, but I got tired of carrying it and storing it below when I got to 
the boat.  This winter I replaced it with a thin flexible 50W panel mounted on 
the sliding hatch with Velcro.  It barely clears to slide under the traveller 
frame, but has so far worked fine.  I coil the wires and stick them in the rope 
bags mounted on the front of the cockpit while sailing.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a 50 watt panel and a Morningstar controller. It does a decent job 
> keeping my battery charged.
>  
>  
> Joe
> Coquina 
> C&C 35 MK I
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
> Dziedzic via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:24 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Need Advice on Solar Panel project
>  
> Pete,
>  
> for maintenance (topping up the batteries between sailings), you should be 
> fine with a small (50 W?) panel that you can put on the bimini (if you have 
> one). I have a flexible 25 W panel and it does a decent job (about 1 A of 
> charging current in normal circumstances; this could be improved with beefier 
> wiring (voltage drop) and possibly with better placing of the panel). I have 
> a much smaller battery bank (2 x 55 Ah), so my charging needs are smaller. We 
> don’t have any shore power in the Club, so all charging is either the motor 
> or solar. But of course, this all depends on how much power you use, so YMWV.
>  
> The most important part of the system is the controller. Don’t take any 
> shortcuts there. Gensun and Morningstar have very good options available. If 
> you are looking ahead, install a controller that can handle more power. But 
> you would be hard pressed to find enough space to install enough panel 
> capacity to provide more than 10-15 A.
>  
> Marek
> 1994 C270 Legato
> Ottawa, ON
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Stus-List 1984 C&C 35 Mk IIII for sale

[Patrick Gateley via CnC-List]

Hello,

Our previous boat, Two Hearted, a 1984 C&C 35 ft Mk III is for sale. If 
interested, see the Yachtworld listing below and share if you can.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984/c-c-35-mkiii-3547833/ 


Thanks,
Patrick and Kari Gateley
Proud new owners of Odessa
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Re: Stus-List Need Advice on Solar Panel project

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

A 100w flexible solar panel and a Genasun 12v 8amp boost controller puts
out 6amps for about 8 hours each day.  I have 2 of these systems installed
in parallel.  The panels are on top of my hard top dodger.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yLXU5RzRyWjZXTDA

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 4:29 PM kelly petew via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello, Listers,
>
> I want to add a solar panel to keep my batteries more fully charged.
>
> But on a 30 ft. C&C, space is somewhat limited.
>
>
>
> For starting out, I want the smallest panel possible for battery
> maintenance, but I’d beef up the wiring to handle future power demands.
>
> My house battery bank is 12volt DC, two 130 amp hour, deep cycle,
> wet-cells, in parallel.  My other bank is a hybrid deep cycle [80 amp
> hours], used for starting.
>
> I’ve studied YouTube and other sources.  Also, I’ve tried to contact a
> west coast mfr., Renogy, but I can’t reach anyone there, as yet.
>
>
>
> Any and all feedback is much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Fair Winds,
>
>
>
> Pete W.
>
> Siren Song
>
> ‘91C&C 30-2
>
> Deltaville, Va.
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
break the bank? 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY 
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

I bought a rigid vang for my 30 MK I from Garhauer three years ago for $495. 
I’ve been happy with it.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
> Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
> break the bank? 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY 
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
> 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Garhauer

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Listers,

My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
break the bank?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log










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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Like for like replacement is available from Offshore Spars.

Have you considered prep and paint what you already have?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 11:30 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a
> replacement. Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’
> range that won’t break the bank?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Garhauer

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List
Sent: June 25, 2019 11:30 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

Listers,

My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
break the bank?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log












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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

I have had Garhauer on several boats with no problems.
Bill Walker
CnC 36
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:
Listers,
My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
break the bank? 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BCity Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY Venice Yacht Club | Venice, 
FL
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Stus-List Adding cover to line

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
clutch.
Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take to 
a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch and 
when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi.
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Need Advice on Solar Panel project

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

I had almost exactly the same experience as David on our 1977 C&C 27 MKIII.  I 
got tired of setting up and putting away our solar panel, and one day someone 
stepped on it and cracked it.  A 40 watt panel fit perfectly on our sliding 
hatch, and so I drilled holes through the hatch plastic and tapped them, and 
screwed down as thin fiberglass backed panel.  

What I did slightly different was to drill a hole in the track that the hatch 
slides on, and run the wire through the track at the aft, then down along the 
companionway.  I was able to hide the cable and have it run down where the 
batteries were, and mount a charge controller and combiner.  

When the hatch was open, it left a small loop of wire that didn't seem to get 
caught on anything, and I could close the hatch any time and the panel would be 
exposed and charge.  

I had 2 batteries, essentially a 31 as a house bank and a 24 as a starting 
battery. 

It was more than sufficient to run our autopilot, GPS, stereo, and minimal 
instruments and top off the batteries during the week.
I went for 5 years at a time without replacing batteries.
And, we were on a mooring so we had no shore power charging capabilities.
Hope this helps,

Bruce Whitmore
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 10:06:01 AM EDT, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I had a 50W panel in an aluminum frame that I set on the sliding hatch when I 
left the boat and plugged into an outlet I put near the engine controls.   
Worked fine, but I got tired of carrying it and storing it below when I got to 
the boat.  This winter I replaced it with a thin flexible 50W panel mounted on 
the sliding hatch with Velcro.  It barely clears to slide under the traveller 
frame, but has so far worked fine.  I coil the wires and stick them in the rope 
bags mounted on the front of the cockpit while sailing.  Dave
S/V Aries1990 C&C 34+New London, CT


On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:
I have a 50 watt panel and a Morningstar controller. It does a decent job 
keeping my battery charged.    JoeCoquina C&C 35 MK IFrom: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:24 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Need Advice on Solar Panel project  Pete, for 
maintenance (topping up the batteries between sailings), you should be fine 
with a small (50 W?) panel that you can put on the bimini (if you have one). I 
have a flexible 25 W panel and it does a decent job (about 1 A of charging 
current in normal circumstances; this could be improved with beefier wiring 
(voltage drop) and possibly with better placing of the panel). I have a much 
smaller battery bank (2 x 55 Ah), so my charging needs are smaller. We don’t 
have any shore power in the Club, so all charging is either the motor or solar. 
But of course, this all depends on how much power you use, so YMWV. The most 
important part of the system is the controller. Don’t take any shortcuts there. 
Gensun and Morningstar have very good options available. If you are looking 
ahead, install a controller that can handle more power. But you would be hard 
pressed to find enough space to install enough panel capacity to provide more 
than 10-15 A. Marek1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON___

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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

I have been very happy with the Selden Rodkicker 20 that came with my LF38.  
The Rodkicker has been around for a while, and I have no idea when mine was 
installed.  Early on, the gas shock on mine failed (but I think it was my 
fault), and I considered replacing with an alternative as the gas shock 
replacement kit was going for ~$300 from Selden.I was able to find the 
exact replacement gas shock at McMaster-Carr for  $86.The repaired 
Rodkicker has been working fine for many years now.

If your rigid system has a failed gas shock, then check out  McMaster-Carr for 
a replacement.  Below is a link to my write up discussion the replacement gas 
shock.As for replacing with a new system, the Rodkicker costs about $200 
more than a Garhauer, and I’m not sure of an advantage, so for new I would 
consider a Garhauer.  They have a reputation of good quality and reasonable 
prices.  


For those interested in the gas shock repair:  
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/RodKicker



-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:59 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:29:37 -0400
> From: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Subject: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?
> Message-ID:  >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Listers,
> 
> My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I?m looking to do a replacement. 
> Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40? range that won?t 
> break the bank? 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY 
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
> 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  >
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Cover alone is available but you might find that buying cheap sta-set is
more cost effective.  Strip the cover and use the core as small stuff.

http://www.apsltd.com/new-england-ropes-sta-set-line.html

I would do a locked brummel splice and bury the tail using a fid to taper
the cover into the high tech line.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 12:25 PM WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just
> won't hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass
> through clutch.
> Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I
> take to a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single
> winch and when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Evening Star
> Pentwater, Mi.
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 12:25 PM WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just
> won't hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass
> through clutch.
> Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I
> take to a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single
> winch and when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Evening Star
> Pentwater, Mi.
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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I'm very pleased with the Selden products which I've used in the past.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 12:44 PM Dreuge via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have been very happy with the Selden Rodkicker 20 that came with my
> LF38.  The Rodkicker has been around for a while, and I have no idea when
> mine was installed.  Early on, the gas shock on mine failed (but I think it
> was my fault), and I considered replacing with an alternative as the gas
> shock replacement kit was going for ~$300 from Selden.I was able to
> find the exact replacement gas shock at McMaster-Carr for  $86.The
> repaired Rodkicker has been working fine for many years now.
>
> If your rigid system has a failed gas shock, then check out  McMaster-Carr
> for a replacement.  Below is a link to my write up discussion the
> replacement gas shock.As for replacing with a new system, the Rodkicker
> costs about $200 more than a Garhauer, and I’m not sure of an advantage, so
> for new I would consider a Garhauer.  They have a reputation of good
> quality and reasonable prices.
>
>
> For those interested in the gas shock repair:
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/RodKicker
>
>
>
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C Landfall 38
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
>
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:59 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:29:37 -0400
> From: Edd Schillay 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Listers,
>
> My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I?m looking to do a
> replacement. Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40?
> range that won?t break the bank?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

+1 for Garhauer.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 10:41 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Garhauer
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
>> Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
>> break the bank? 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Edd
>> 
>> 
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY 
>> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
>> 
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Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,
I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, I 
have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears to 
be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, and 
the DSC is working correctly.  

The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
(brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  

Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG system? 

I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the rather 
cryptic response shown below.
It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.

Thanks in advance, 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

   - Forwarded Message - From: Juan Hernandez 
To: Bruce Whitmore Sent: 
Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDTSubject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to 
Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV
 
Hello Bruce:
 
  
 
Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS data 
at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source on your 
SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, this should 
work without issue.
 
  
 
Best regards,
 
Juan Hernandez
 
j.hernan...@yaesu.com
 
  
 
Yaesu USA
 
Standard Horizon
 
6125 Phyllis Drive
 
Cypress,  Ca 90630
 
Ph: 714-827-7600
 
Fx: 714-527-9472
 
  
 
www.yaesu.com
 
www.standardhorizon.com
 
 
 
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From: Bruce Whitmore  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
To: Juan Hernandez 
Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
Plus 94SV
 
  
 
Hello,
 
  
 
I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have the MMSI removed and 
re-entered.  I have also recently replaced an old Raymarine chart plotter with 
a new Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV.  It is hooked to my marine gauges via Raymarine 
Seatalk NG.  I have connected the GX2100 to the Garmin unit using the green, 
blue and gray wires, and the VHF appears to properly display the coordinates.  
However, the GPS does not have another wire connection so that it can show the 
AIS information.  Is there a way to connect the GX2100 to the Seatalk NG 
backbone in such a way that the AIS information will show up on the Garmin 
unit?  
 

Thank you for your insights, 
 
Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
that model.

I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure something 
out.

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
> Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, 
> I have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears 
> to be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, 
> and the DSC is working correctly.  
> 
> The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
> identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
> (brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
> 34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
> without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
> 
> However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
> NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  
> 
> Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG 
> system? 
> 
> I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the 
> rather cryptic response shown below.
> 
> It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: Juan Hernandez 
> To: Bruce Whitmore 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDT
> Subject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin 
> Echomap Plus 94SV
> 
> Hello Bruce:
> 
>  
> Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS data 
> at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source on your 
> SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, this 
> should work without issue.
> 
>  
> Best regards,
> 
> Juan Hernandez
> 
> j.hernan...@yaesu.com 
>  
> Yaesu USA
> 
> Standard Horizon
> 
> 6125 Phyllis Drive
> 
> Cypress,  Ca 90630
> 
> Ph: 714-827-7600
> 
> Fx: 714-527-9472
> 
>  
> www.yaesu.com 
> www.standardhorizon.com 
>  
> This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information 
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> you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any 
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> action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
> 
>  
> From: Bruce Whitmore  
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
> To: Juan Hernandez 
> Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
> Plus 94SV
> 
>  
> Hello,
> 
>  
> I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have the MMSI removed and 
> re-entered.  I have also recently replaced an old Raymarine chart plotter 
> with a new Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV.  It is hooked to my marine gauges via 
> Raymarine Seatalk NG.  I have connected the GX2100 to the Garmin unit using 
> the green, blue and gray wires, and the VHF appears to properly display the 
> coordinates.  However, the GPS does not have another wire connection so that 
> it can show the AIS information.  Is there a way to connect the GX2100 to the 
> Seatalk NG backbone in such a way that the AIS information will show up on 
> the Garmin unit?  
> 
> 
> Thank you for your insights,
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___

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Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

A quick look at the manual for the EchoMap Plus 72sv shows that the Garmin does 
NOT recognize any AIS sentences over NMEA0183 at all.  So it looks like you 
have NMEA2000 in your future to get things connected.  I’d suggest an Actisense 
NGW-1-STNG converter to get all of your data back and forth between the VHF and 
the plotter.  It will convert the 38,400 baud high-speed NMEA0183 from the 
radio into NMEA2000 (SeaTalkNG), and should allow GPS data to get to the VHF 
the same way.

— Fred



Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
> that model.
> 
> I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
> Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure 
> something out.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, 
>> I have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, 
>> appears to be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates 
>> & such, and the DSC is working correctly.  
>> 
>> The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
>> identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
>> (brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
>> 34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single 
>> wire without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
>> 
>> However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
>> NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG 
>> system? 
>> 
>> I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the 
>> rather cryptic response shown below.
>> 
>> It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> 
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net 
>> 
>> 
>> - Forwarded Message -
>> From: Juan Hernandez mailto:j.hernan...@yaesu.com>>
>> To: Bruce Whitmore mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDT
>> Subject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 94SV
>> 
>> Hello Bruce:
>> 
>>  
>> Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS 
>> data at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source 
>> on your SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, 
>> this should work without issue.
>> 
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Juan Hernandez
>> 
>> j.hernan...@yaesu.com 
>>  
>> Yaesu USA
>> 
>> Standard Horizon
>> 
>> 6125 Phyllis Drive
>> 
>> Cypress,  Ca 90630
>> 
>> Ph: 714-827-7600
>> 
>> Fx: 714-527-9472
>> 
>>  
>> www.yaesu.com 
>> www.standardhorizon.com 
>>  
>> This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information 
>> intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If 
>> you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any 
>> disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any 
>> action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
>> 
>>  
>> From: Bruce Whitmore > > 
>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
>> To: Juan Hernandez mailto:j.hernan...@yaesu.com>>
>> Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
>> Plus 94SV
>> 
>>  
>> Hello,
>> 
>>  
>> I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have the MMSI removed and 
>> re-entered.  I have also recently replaced an old Raymarine chart plotter 
>> with a new Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV.  It is hooked to my marine gauges via 
>> Raymarine Seatalk NG.  I have connected the GX2100 to the Garmin unit using 
>> the green, blue and gray wires, and the VHF appears to properly display the 
>> coordinates.  However, the GPS does not have another wire connection so that 
>> it can show the AIS information.  Is there a way to connect the GX2100 to 
>> the Seatalk NG backbone in such a way that the AIS information will show up 
>> on the Garmin unit?  
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for your insights,
>> 
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net 
>> ___
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Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hi Fred,
The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf&usg=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information would 
work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the brown 
input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH wire is 
connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be adjusted for the 
NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS information, but the radio 
will not get the DSC information.  

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
that model.
I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure something 
out.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hello all,
I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, I 
have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears to 
be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, and 
the DSC is working correctly.  

The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
(brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  

Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG system? 

I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the rather 
cryptic response shown below.
It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.

Thanks in advance, 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

   - Forwarded Message - From: Juan Hernandez 
To: Bruce Whitmore Sent: 
Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDTSubject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to 
Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV
 
Hello Bruce:
  
 
Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS data 
at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source on your 
SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, this should 
work without issue.
  

Best regards,

Juan Hernandez

j.hernan...@yaesu.com
  

Yaesu USA

Standard Horizon

6125 Phyllis Drive

Cypress,  Ca 90630

Ph: 714-827-7600

Fx: 714-527-9472
  

www.yaesu.com

www.standardhorizon.com
 

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it, is strictly prohibited.
   
 
From: Bruce Whitmore  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
To: Juan Hernandez 
Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
Plus 94SV
   
 
Hello,
   
 
I have a GX2100 that was recently sent to you to have the MMSI removed and 
re-entered.  I have also recently replaced an old Raymarine chart plotter with 
a new Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV.  It is hooked to my marine gauges via Raymarine 
Seatalk NG.  I have connected the GX2100 to the Garmin unit using the green, 
blue and gray wires, and the VHF appears to properly display the coordinates.  
However, the GPS does not have another wire connection so that it can show the 
AIS information.  Is there a way to connect the GX2100 to the Seatalk NG 
backbone in such a way that the AIS information will show up on the Garmin 
unit?

Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Hi Bill,

Talk to a local rigger.  I found a good rigger on my dock stripping the cover 
off a hi-tech halyard on a race boat.  He explained he always had more cover 
than he needed and sometimes donated it to a friend for dog leashes.  He just 
gave me 40’ of his scraps for free.

May you may find a generous rigger too. . .

2 cents, Lee
s/v Simplicity
Seattle


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:24 59AM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
> hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
> clutch.
> Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take 
> to a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch 
> and when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Evening Star
> Pentwater, Mi.
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Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Bruce — are you also feeding GPS position data from the Garmin to the GX2100?

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
>  
> 
> 
> Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf&usg=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
>  
> 
> 
> I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
> blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
> 21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information 
> would work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the 
> brown input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH 
> wire is connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be 
> adjusted for the NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS 
> information, but the radio will not get the DSC information.  
> 
> Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
> that model.
> 
> I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
> Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure 
> something out.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, 
>> I have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, 
>> appears to be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates 
>> & such, and the DSC is working correctly.  
>> 
>> The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
>> identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
>> (brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
>> 34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single 
>> wire without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
>> 
>> However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
>> NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG 
>> system? 
>> 
>> I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the 
>> rather cryptic response shown below.
>> 
>> It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> 
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net 
>> 
>> 
>> - Forwarded Message -
>> From: Juan Hernandez mailto:j.hernan...@yaesu.com>>
>> To: Bruce Whitmore mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDT
>> Subject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 94SV
>> 
>> Hello Bruce:
>> 
>>  
>> Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS 
>> data at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source 
>> on your SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, 
>> this should work without issue.
>> 
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Juan Hernandez
>> 
>> j.hernan...@yaesu.com 
>>  
>> Yaesu USA
>> 
>> Standard Horizon
>> 
>> 6125 Phyllis Drive
>> 
>> Cypress

Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[jhnelson24 via CnC-List]

Ditto. Very happy with mine had it for more than 9 years. Sent from my Samsung 
Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
 Date: 2019-06-25  12:37  (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list 
 Cc: Randy Stafford  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang? I bought a rigid vang for my 30 MK I 
from Garhauer three years ago for $495. I’ve been happy with it.Cheers,RandyOn 
Jun 25, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:Listers,My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a 
replacement. Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range 
that won’t break the bank? 
All the best,EddEdd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail 
No: NCC-1701-BCity Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY Venice Yacht Club | 
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Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more aggressive 
cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery halyard line is:
A. New to the boat?
B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?
C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable 
compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard to 
move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive, replace the 
halyard before it comes apart under load.
D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild kits 
can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the halyard has 
just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.

Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V HalfMagic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram, MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
> hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
> clutch.
> Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take 
> to a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch 
> and when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Evening Star
> Pentwater, Mi.
> 
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Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hi Fred,
Yes, the blue and brown wire currently coming out of the Garmin unit provide 
NMEA GPS position data to the the VHF (GX 2100).  That appears to be working 
adequately, it is only getting the AIS data to the Garmin that is currently the 
issue.

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 4:10:30 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce — are you also feeding GPS position data from the Garmin to the GX2100?
— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hi Fred,
The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf&usg=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information would 
work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the brown 
input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH wire is 
connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be adjusted for the 
NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS information, but the radio 
will not get the DSC information.  

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
that model.
I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure something 
out.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hello all,
I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, I 
have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears to 
be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, and 
the DSC is working correctly.  

The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
(brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  

Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG system? 

I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the rather 
cryptic response shown below.
It's not the end of the world, but I'd like to connect it if workable.

Thanks in advance, 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

   - Forwarded Message - From: Juan Hernandez 
To: Bruce Whitmore Sent: 
Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 11:12:20 AM EDTSubject: RE: Connecting GX2100 to 
Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV
 
Hello Bruce:
  
 
Thank you for contacting us with your email. The GX2100 can send out AIS data 
at 38400 on it brown output wire. So long as you have an input source on your 
SeaTalk network capable of receiving NMEA 0183 at 38400 baud rate, this should 
work without issue.
  

Best regards,

Juan Hernandez

j.hernan...@yaesu.com
  

Yaesu USA

Standard Horizon

6125 Phyllis Drive

Cypress,  Ca 90630

Ph: 714-827-7600

Fx: 714-527-9472
  

www.yaesu.com

www.standardhorizon.com
 

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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 2:16 PM
To: Juan Hernandez 
Subject: Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap 
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Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Okay, you had me confused for awhile…

You don’t currently have DSC info from the VHF to the plotter; you have GPS 
from the plotter to the VHF, for positional info.  This is different from DSC, 
which would be call info from the VHF to display on the plotter.

If you connect the following wires, and change the plotter to receive 38,400 
baud data, you may get everything you need:

Garmin VHF

Blue (NMEA Out+)  ==>  Blue  (NMEA In+)
Brown (NMEA In+)  <==  Brown (AIS HS Data Out+)
Black (Gnd)   ==>  Green (Gnd)

This is one thing I dislike about Garmin; their documentation and settings on 
the technical side leave something to be desired.  The User Manual doesn’t 
specify whether or not switching the NMEA0183 input port’s data speed also 
affects the output port.  In this case, the Garmin output needs to be at 4800 
baud (for positional data), and the input port needs to be at 38,400 baud (for 
AIS).  If switching the input port in the settings menu causes both to switch 
to 38,400, you’ll lose the GPS data going to the VHF, as it wants to receive 
position data at 4800.  But it may be worth a try to see what happens.

If this don’t work, I’d suggest an Actisense NGW-1-STNG, configured for AIS, to 
get the AIS sentences from the VHF to the NMEA2000 input of the plotter.  If 
you don’t yet have an NMEA2000 or SeaTalkNG network, you’ll need to build one.  
I can help you design that, if needed, as well as configure the NGW-1.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
>  
> 
> 
> Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf&usg=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
>  
> 
> 
> I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
> blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
> 21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information 
> would work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the 
> brown input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH 
> wire is connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be 
> adjusted for the NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS 
> information, but the radio will not get the DSC information.  
> 
> Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
> that model.
> 
> I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
> Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure 
> something out.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
>> Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, 
>> I have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, 
>> appears to be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates 
>> & such, and the DSC is working correctly.  
>> 
>> The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
>> identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
>> (brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
>> 34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single 
>> wire without disabling 

Re: Stus-List Connecting GX2100 to Seatalk NG or via NMEA 0813 to Garmin Echomap Plus 94SV

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hi Fred,  

 I'll try what you suggest, but given the comment from Garmin, I kind of expect 
I'll end up going down the road of the Actisense NGW-1-STNG.  I have a Seatalk 
NG network now.
Thank you!!! 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 7:17:46 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Okay, you had me confused for awhile…
You don’t currently have DSC info from the VHF to the plotter; you have GPS 
from the plotter to the VHF, for positional info.  This is different from DSC, 
which would be call info from the VHF to display on the plotter.
If you connect the following wires, and change the plotter to receive 38,400 
baud data, you may get everything you need:
Garmin                 VHF        
Blue (NMEA Out+)  ==>  Blue  (NMEA In+)Brown (NMEA In+)  <==  Brown (AIS HS 
Data Out+)Black (Gnd)       ==>  Green (Gnd)
This is one thing I dislike about Garmin; their documentation and settings on 
the technical side leave something to be desired.  The User Manual doesn’t 
specify whether or not switching the NMEA0183 input port’s data speed also 
affects the output port.  In this case, the Garmin output needs to be at 4800 
baud (for positional data), and the input port needs to be at 38,400 baud (for 
AIS).  If switching the input port in the settings menu causes both to switch 
to 38,400, you’ll lose the GPS data going to the VHF, as it wants to receive 
position data at 4800.  But it may be worth a try to see what happens.
If this don’t work, I’d suggest an Actisense NGW-1-STNG, configured for AIS, to 
get the AIS sentences from the VHF to the NMEA2000 input of the plotter.  If 
you don’t yet have an NMEA2000 or SeaTalkNG network, you’ll need to build one.  
I can help you design that, if needed, as well as configure the NGW-1.
— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hi Fred,
The Garmin unit is the Echomap Plus 94 SV.  Here is the manual:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwjZsrzZmIXjAhWtneAKHTCiAnUQFjAKegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.garmin.com%2Fpumac%2FechoMAP_Plus_60_70_90_Installation_EN.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3YkkuZ7UeK6xWaB8W9ulaS
Here is the manual for the Standard Horizon GX2100:  
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjzoMi6mYXjAhWyUt8KHb6WAYoQFjAAegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standardhorizon.com%2FdownloadFile.cfm%3FFileID%3D5180%26FileCatID%3D92%26FileName%3DGX2000%255FGX2100%255FOwner%2527s%2520Manual.pdf%26FileContentType%3Dapplication%252Fpdf&usg=AOvVaw1pEjNKt-CbUQDyyOTtG-_u
I talked to Garmin tech support on the issue, and they indicated that if the 
blue and gray wire coming out of the Standard Horizon radio (as noted on Page 
21 of the SH manual) is connected to the Garmin unit, the DSC information would 
work (it does).  The gray and brown SH wire cannot be connected to the brown 
input wire on the Garmin simultaneously (makes sense).  If the brown SH wire is 
connected to the Garmin brown wire, the Garmin unit has to be adjusted for the 
NMEA 0183 34.8K baud rate, and will display the AIS information, but the radio 
will not get the DSC information.  

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 1:46:31 PM EDT, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce — can you confirm the Garmin model number?  I’m not seeing anything for 
that model.
I’m not sure why you can’t have both AIS and DSC on the same feed to the 
Garmin; if I can take a look at the manual, we may be able to figure something 
out.
— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hello all,
I have been exploring how to connect a Standard Horizon GX2100 to our Garmin 
Echomap Plus 84 SV to get AIS data to show up on the Garmin unit.  In short, I 
have the NMEA input and output wires connected, and in that manner, appears to 
be working well in that the VHF radio is showing GPS coordinates & such, and 
the DSC is working correctly.  

The AIS data (other commercial ships) shows up on the radio, they can be 
identified, but they don't show up on the Garmin unit.  The AIS data wire 
(brown) coming out of the Standard Horizon is for high-speed NMEA data at a 
34.8K baud rate, and per Garmin cannot be connected to the Garmin single wire 
without disabling the DSC, which is far more important.
However, if the Standard Horizon is connected to the NMEA 2000 (via Seatalk 
NG), then evidently the Garmin will show the AIS data.  

Does anyone know how to connect the Standard Horizon to the Seatalk NG system? 

I asked the question quite specifically of Standard Horizon and got the rather 
cryptic response shown below.
It's not the end of the world, but I'd 

Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Michael Brannon via CnC-List]

Bill,  if none of the  Chuck’s items apply, I’d milk in additional core to bulk 
up the line rather than add cover.I did that on my boat and it helps.   I’m 
using 3/8” endura braid for my halyards and have spin lock rope clutches.
Also some of the less expensive rope clutches do not hold as well as the more 
expensive of the same brand.   

Mikel Brannon
Virginia Lee 93295
C&C 36 CB
Virginia Beach, VA



> On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more aggressive 
> cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery halyard line is:
> A. New to the boat?
> B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?
> C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable 
> compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard 
> to move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive, replace 
> the halyard before it comes apart under load.
> D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild kits 
> can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the halyard has 
> just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.
> 
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> S/V HalfMagic
> 1983 35 LF
> Padanaram, MA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
>> hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
>> clutch.
>> Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take 
>> to a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch 
>> and when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
>> Bill Walker
>> CnC 36
>> Evening Star
>> Pentwater, Mi.
>> 
>> ___
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>> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

Thanks all, as always, good advice.
Bill Walker
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 Michael Brannon via CnC-List  
wrote:
Bill,  if none of the  Chuck’s items apply, I’d milk in additional core to bulk 
up the line rather than add cover.    I did that on my boat and it helps.   I’m 
using 3/8” endura braid for my halyards and have spin lock rope clutches.    
Also some of the less expensive rope clutches do not hold as well as the more 
expensive of the same brand.   
Mikel BrannonVirginia Lee 93295C&C 36 CBVirginia Beach, VA



On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more aggressive 
cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery halyard line 
is:A. New to the boat?B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the 
clutch?C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of 
non-recoverable compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending 
the halyard to move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems 
excessive, replace the halyard before it comes apart under load.D. Are the 
clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild kits can be 
sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the halyard has just 
started slipping, this is the usual culprit.
Chuck Gilchrest S/V HalfMagic1983 35 LFPadanaram, MA

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On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
 wrote:



I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
clutch.
Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take to 
a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch and 
when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi.


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