Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Joel Aronson]

Just to follow up - I brought home one of the old panels.  I was able to
peel off the vinyl with some plywood attached.  I tried using acetone to
remove the remaining wood with some success.  I then soaked the vinyl in
hot water in the kitchen sink (don't try this if your spouse/SO is home).
 That loosened the glue enough that I was able to scrape off the rest of
the wood with a putty knife.  I then used Goo Gone to remove the excess
glue.  I have 1/8 inch luan plywood on order.  I bought 3M 90 spray
adhesive for vinyl.  With any luck I'll have the first panel done and ready
for install this weekend.

My boat now has its own Facebook page.  www.facebook/Theoffice35.  I'll
post pictures when I get it back together.

Joel

On Thursday, November 15, 2012, Joel Aronson wrote:

> Too funny!
>
> Joel
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 15, 2012, at 9:29 PM, "Dennis C."  wrote:
>
> Just don't use white pebble board, PLEASE!!!  Will make your boat look
> like a restroom at a Waffle House.
>
> I did use pebble board once on a boat for the decking on a quarterberth.
> Figured it would "breathe" moisture out better than a smooth board.  It had
> a vinyl bottom cushion on top of it so it didn't show.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>   --
> *From:* Jake Brodersen 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>
> That looks a lot like the fiberglass wall panels available at Home Depot.
> I’ve used that for several headliner panels and it works well.  It is 1/8”
> thick and will warp slightly.  I used it for the longer panels on the
> starboard side.  You really can see it and it holds paint well.  Since it’s
> fiberglass, no worries about it warping.
>
> Jake
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
> *C&C 35 Mk-III*
> *"Midnight Mistress*
> *Hampton VA*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rich
> C&C
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:28 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>
> Here’s some
>
>

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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Joel Aronson]

Too funny!

Joel
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 15, 2012, at 9:29 PM, "Dennis C."  wrote:

Just don't use white pebble board, PLEASE!!!  Will make your boat look like
a restroom at a Waffle House.

I did use pebble board once on a boat for the decking on a quarterberth.
Figured it would "breathe" moisture out better than a smooth board.  It had
a vinyl bottom cushion on top of it so it didn't show.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

  --
*From:* Jake Brodersen 
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:20 PM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

That looks a lot like the fiberglass wall panels available at Home Depot.
I’ve used that for several headliner panels and it works well.  It is 1/8”
thick and will warp slightly.  I used it for the longer panels on the
starboard side.  You really can see it and it holds paint well.  Since it’s
fiberglass, no worries about it warping.

Jake

*Jake Brodersen*
*C&C 35 Mk-III*
*"Midnight Mistress*
*Hampton VA*



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*On Behalf Of *Rich C&C
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:28 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

Here’s some other stuff I have used for lining commercial garages that
looks very nice and is friendly to use:

http://www.palramamericas.com/Wall-Tuf

Rich

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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Dennis C.]

Just don't use white pebble board, PLEASE!!!  Will make your boat look like a 
restroom at a Waffle House.

I did use pebble board once on a boat for the decking on a quarterberth.  
Figured it would "breathe" moisture out better than a smooth board.  It had a 
vinyl bottom cushion on top of it so it didn't show.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




>
> From: Jake Brodersen 
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
> 
>
>That looks a lot like the fiberglass wall panels available at Home Depot.  
>I’ve used that for several headliner panels and it works well.  It is 1/8” 
>thick and will warp slightly.  I used it for the longer panels on the 
>starboard side.  You really can see it and it holds paint well.  Since it’s 
>fiberglass, no worries about it warping.
> 
>Jake
> 
>Jake Brodersen
>C&C 35 Mk-III
>"Midnight Mistress
>Hampton VA
> 
> 
> 
>From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich C&C
>Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:28 PM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
> 
>Here’s some other stuff I have used for lining commercial garages that looks 
>very nice and is friendly to use:
> 
>http://www.palramamericas.com/Wall-Tuf
> 
>Rich
> 
>Rich Knowles
>INDIGO - LF38
>Halifax, NS
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Jake Brodersen]

That looks a lot like the fiberglass wall panels available at Home Depot.
I've used that for several headliner panels and it works well.  It is 1/8"
thick and will warp slightly.  I used it for the longer panels on the
starboard side.  You really can see it and it holds paint well.  Since it's
fiberglass, no worries about it warping.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

"Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich C&C
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

 

Here's some other stuff I have used for lining commercial garages that looks
very nice and is friendly to use:

 

http://www.palramamericas.com/Wall-Tuf

 

Rich

 

Rich Knowles

INDIGO - LF38

Halifax, NS

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[dwight veinot]

Joel

 

I think the 35/2 designs used Plexiglass, but I have seen one done with teak
veneer.I did not like that.the 35MKII already has enough teak in the
cabin.Your 35/3 as I am sure you already know has many significant
differences from the 35/2, and the 35MKII has a lot of significant
differences from the MKI.   I think the 35/3 is a Rob Ball design and I am
reasonably certain that the 35/2 and 35/1 were Cuthbertson designs, just
based on when the various designs were built.  Yet they are all called C&C
35's but in my mind the different C&C 35 designs are actually more like
different boats altogether.  One can only hope that things got improved with
time, but the company tried to stay profitable in a market that got more
competitive with time so some changes were probably adopted to reduce cost
of production yet they wanted to keep the C&C 35 name because it had made
such a good impact for the company.   I believe all 3 designs perform very
well and their handicap ratings supports that.I chose a 35MKII for many
reasons but the MKIII was high on my list as was the 33 MKII.  I like C&C
boats and I have owned 4 of them during my life.  I used the sailing
calculator on the C&C site to help in my decision and I feel the results it
predicted were quite accurate.  MKI's and II's usually list for slightly
less than the MKIII's, but that was not a determinant for me.simply put I
preferred the outward appearance and sheer lines of the MKII, classic
Cuthbertson, and the fact that it had an attached bustle which gave it over
30 feet water line length.bustle was a bit of a rage in some AC boats just a
few years before I got Alianna and I liked the way the interior was
finished, lots of real teak that must have taken the marine carpenter an
incredible long time to built.  The MKII also has greater displacement.I
figured those extra pounds must have increased production costs so I felt I
was getting "more boat" for my money.  I found one in Maine that had been
repowered with a 4 cylinder diesel, came with lots of sails and had a white
Awlgripped hull.it was very dirty but we got a good deal, cleaned her up,
new upholstery and more sails (main and 135 furler), new Raymarine ST60
instrument pack, chart plotter (she came with radar), new Dodger and other
canvas, new upper shrouds and a lot of new lines.she's a beauty now and a
beauty so sail   

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: November 15, 2012 11:40 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

 

Alex,

 

Go sailing already!  :).  The access panels are vinyl over plywood (matches
the rest of the headliner) and the long ones are screwed, the smaller ones
use velcro.

 

I'm going to try removing the vinyl and reusing it over either plastic or
new wood to maintain the original look.  When that fails, I'll go to Plan B.
3M makes a spray, Super 77, that works great!  I used it for a cockpit
cushion and pedestal cover.

 

Joel

35/3

 

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Alex Giannelia  wrote:

Now you have my interest, as my 35-II had plastic panels in various shapes
screwed directly into the headliner.  These are suffering from old age and
are yellowing etc and in 2 cases are cracked and now that my deck work is
done, I am proposing to replace them all, so are you saying in the 35-III
These are normally plywood glued and/or velcroed in place?

Does anyone on this list with a 35-II have what I described?  Dwight what do
you have?

BTW, these only apply to original equipment deck installs. In some areas
where the P.O. or I put in newer hardware, we had to go through the core and
I ended up using SS backing plates I polished and fastened with cap nuts.

Just polling the list.

ALEX GIANNELIA

CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED
ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Joel Aronson]

Home Depot sells the FRP panels with a textured surface.  They are gloss
white, so they would brighten the salon!


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:56 AM, dwight veinot <
dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:

> Alex
> I had the old white plastic also...it was yellowed as well...I replaced it
> with the solid white Plexiglas, and I used 1/8 inch thick...if I ever do it
> again I would try 1/4 inch thick because the 1/8 inch thick has warped
> between some fasteners or I might check a sheet of Formica as someone on
> the
> list suggested the other day or that white FRP stuff that Rich Knowles
> advised about but I am not sure where to get it, I expect that Rich will
> help me with that when I need it...I checked out Formica when I did the
> replacement every piece I saw had a black subsurface which showed a black
> edge when cut.
>
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex
> Giannelia
> Sent: November 15, 2012 11:31 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>
> Now you have my interest, as my 35-II had plastic panels in various shapes
> screwed directly into the headliner.  These are suffering from old age and
> are yellowing etc and in 2 cases are cracked and now that my deck work is
> done, I am proposing to replace them all, so are you saying in the 35-III
> These are normally plywood glued and/or velcroed in place?
>
> Does anyone on this list with a 35-II have what I described?  Dwight what
> do
> you have?
>
> BTW, these only apply to original equipment deck installs. In some areas
> where the P.O. or I put in newer hardware, we had to go through the core
> and
> I ended up using SS backing plates I polished and fastened with cap nuts.
>
> Just polling the list.
>
> ALEX GIANNELIA
>
> CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED
> ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006
> Toronto Ontario
>
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[dwight veinot]

Alex
I had the old white plastic also...it was yellowed as well...I replaced it
with the solid white Plexiglas, and I used 1/8 inch thick...if I ever do it
again I would try 1/4 inch thick because the 1/8 inch thick has warped
between some fasteners or I might check a sheet of Formica as someone on the
list suggested the other day or that white FRP stuff that Rich Knowles
advised about but I am not sure where to get it, I expect that Rich will
help me with that when I need it...I checked out Formica when I did the
replacement every piece I saw had a black subsurface which showed a black
edge when cut.

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Giannelia
Sent: November 15, 2012 11:31 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels

Now you have my interest, as my 35-II had plastic panels in various shapes
screwed directly into the headliner.  These are suffering from old age and
are yellowing etc and in 2 cases are cracked and now that my deck work is
done, I am proposing to replace them all, so are you saying in the 35-III
These are normally plywood glued and/or velcroed in place?

Does anyone on this list with a 35-II have what I described?  Dwight what do
you have?

BTW, these only apply to original equipment deck installs. In some areas
where the P.O. or I put in newer hardware, we had to go through the core and
I ended up using SS backing plates I polished and fastened with cap nuts.

Just polling the list.

ALEX GIANNELIA

CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED
ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006
Toronto Ontario


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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Joel Aronson]

Alex,

Go sailing already!  :).  The access panels are vinyl over plywood (matches
the rest of the headliner) and the long ones are screwed, the smaller ones
use velcro.

I'm going to try removing the vinyl and reusing it over either plastic or
new wood to maintain the original look.  When that fails, I'll go to Plan
B.  3M makes a spray, Super 77, that works great!  I used it for a cockpit
cushion and pedestal cover.

Joel
35/3


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Alex Giannelia  wrote:

> Now you have my interest, as my 35-II had plastic panels in various shapes
> screwed directly into the headliner.  These are suffering from old age and
> are yellowing etc and in 2 cases are cracked and now that my deck work is
> done, I am proposing to replace them all, so are you saying in the 35-III
> These are normally plywood glued and/or velcroed in place?
>
> Does anyone on this list with a 35-II have what I described?  Dwight what
> do you have?
>
> BTW, these only apply to original equipment deck installs. In some areas
> where the P.O. or I put in newer hardware, we had to go through the core
> and I ended up using SS backing plates I polished and fastened with cap
> nuts.
>
> Just polling the list.
>
> ALEX GIANNELIA
>
> CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED
> ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006
> Toronto Ontario
>
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Sam Salter]

Gary,
I was sailing around Rock Hall and Oxford. Didn't get to St Michaels.
Also went into Baltimore inner Harbour - had Ravens tickets!
Much more civilized on the western side, but great sailing over to the east.
Great sun and wind. No rain all week - unusual for the Chesapeake - well when 
we go anyway!
sam :-)
 

On 2012-11-14, at 3:05 PM, "Gary Nylander"  wrote:

> Where were you, Sam? There is actually quite a bit over here, but just not a 
> whole bunch of commercialization, which is the way we like it. We're an hour 
> and a half from DC and Baltimore, so that is enough 'civilization' for most 
> of us.
>  
> And about 5-600 miles of shoreline in our county alone - OK?
>  
> Gary
> - Original Message -
> From: Sam Salter
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
> 
> I was sailing the eastern shore of Maryland about 6 weeks ago - your right 
> there is nothing there!
> Get it online:
> Sailrite: http://www.sailrite.com/3M-Dual-Lock-Type-250-1-Clear
> Amazon, eBay, office depot
> 
> sam :-)
> 
> 
> On 2012-11-14, at 8:44 AM, "Gary Nylander"  wrote:
> 
>> Where do you get it?
>>  
>> Gary
>> 30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but 
>> over 50 miles to anything else
>> ----- Original Message -
>> From: Sam Salter
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>> 
>> Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:
>> 
>> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/
>> 
>> It's like super industrial strength velcro.
>> 
>> It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but it 
>> secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small 
>> piece about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world 
>> when we sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.
>> 
>> sam :-)
>> C7C 26  Liquorice
>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Joel,
>>> I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic 
>>> sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted 
>>> the wood.  It is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up 
>>> there using the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro 
>>> just doesn’t seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.
>>> Jake
>>> Jake Brodersen
>>> C&C 35 Mk-III
>>> "Midnight Mistress
>>> Hampton VA
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
>>> Aronson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>>> Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too 
>>> thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl 
>>> or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?
>>> Thanks!
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[Gary Nylander]

Where were you, Sam? There is actually quite a bit over here, but just not a 
whole bunch of commercialization, which is the way we like it. We're an hour 
and a half from DC and Baltimore, so that is enough 'civilization' for most of 
us.

And about 5-600 miles of shoreline in our county alone - OK?

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sam Salter 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels


  I was sailing the eastern shore of Maryland about 6 weeks ago - your right 
there is nothing there!
  Get it online:
  Sailrite: http://www.sailrite.com/3M-Dual-Lock-Type-250-1-Clear
  Amazon, eBay, office depot


  sam :-)


  On 2012-11-14, at 8:44 AM, "Gary Nylander"  wrote:


Where do you get it?

Gary
30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but 
over 50 miles to anything else
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sam Salter 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels


  Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:

  
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/

  It's like super industrial strength velcro.

  It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but it 
secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small piece 
about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world when we 
sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.

  sam :-)
  C7C 26  Liquorice
  Ghost Lake  Alberta


  On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote: 
Joel,


I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic 
sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted the 
wood.  It is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up there using 
the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro just doesn’t 
seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.


Jake


Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

"Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
Aronson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels


Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too 
thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl or 
found a replacement?  What glue would you use?


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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

Richard: C&C has used a variety of materials and fastening methods on the 
various boats over the years and some have been more durable than others 
depending on the environment in which they find themselves.

 

Rich Knowles

INDIGO - LF38

Halifax, NS

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. 
Bush
Sent: November 14, 2012 16:19
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

 

I hate to be the caboose on this conversation but I do not understand what is 
happening to the headliners on the boats, I've never had a headliner fall or 
come apart, can someone explain what is happening and possibly the cause? 
thanks.

Richard

1987 33-II

 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
502-584-7255

 

-Original Message-
From: Joel Aronson 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

No RONA stores south of the border, but I will check out HD too! 

 

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:

You can also get sheets of thin, white plastic (8' x 4') at Home Depot, RONA 
and I suspect Lowes (but I've never been in a Lowes)

Not used it for headliners but I have used it for covers inside to put over 
access holes for winch and jammer bolts.

sam :-) 



On 2012-11-14, at 9:06 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

This plastic from McMaster looks like it would work: 

 


Formable Chemical-Resistant Kydex Acrylic/PVC


· Color: Black, gray, or white

·  

· Temperature Range: -40° to 150° F

·  

· Tensile Strength: Good

·  

· Impact Strength: Excellent

Often used for vehicle interiors and equipment housings, this material 
maintains its shape after heating and forming. It resists corrosive chemicals 
and cleaning solutions. One side is textured and the other is smooth. Width and 
length tolerances are ±1/8". Sheets meet UL 94V0 for flame retardance. To 
Order: Please specify color.

View  <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8574KAC> detailed performance properties for 
plastics.

Sheets





12" × 12"

12" × 24"

24" × 48"

48" × 48"

48" × 96"


Thick.

Thick.
Tolerance

 

Each

 

Each

 

Each

 

Each

 

Each


1/8"

±0.009"

 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K11> 8650K11

$9.40

 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K12> 8650K12

$17.17

 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K13> 8650K13

$63.16

 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K14> 8650K14

$115.54

 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K15> 8650K15

$211.73

 

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM, D.Drake  wrote:

I picked up a pack at West Marine several years ago .Not cheap but works well 

On 14/11/2012 10:44 AM, Gary Nylander wrote:

Where do you get it?

 

Gary

30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but 
over 50 miles to anything else

- Original Message - 

From: Sam Salter <mailto:sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>  

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM

Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

 

Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/

It's like super industrial strength velcro.

It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but it 
secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small piece 
about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world when we 
sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.

sam :-)
C7C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote: 

Joel,

I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic sheeting.  
I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted the wood.  It 
is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up there using the stock 
Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro just doesn’t seem to work 
well, especially in rough conditions.

Jake

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

"Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels

Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too thick.  
Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl or found a 
replacement?  What glue would you use?

Thanks!


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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

Here's some other stuff I have used for lining commercial garages that looks
very nice and is friendly to use:

 

http://www.palramamericas.com/Wall-Tuf

 

Rich

 

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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Joel Aronson]

Richard,

In the case of my boat, it is not the headliner, but the access panels that
are the problem.  They are vinyl over plywood.  The long ones are screwed
in, the more rectangular ones under the winches have velcro.  Over the
years there have been leaks that have caused the plywood to fail in the
panels over the quarter-berth and nav station.  Also, the vinyl is becoming
unglued in places.  Its not terribly noticeable until you remove a panel
and have pieces of plywood falling out.  If your boat is watertight, you
probably don't have this issue.  The PO of my boat was too tolerant of
leaks, and I am cleaning up his mess.

Hope this clarifies the matter.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Richard N. Bush  wrote:

> I hate to be the caboose on this conversation but I do not understand what
> is happening to the headliners on the boats, I've never had a headliner
> fall or come apart, can someone explain what is happening and possibly the
> cause? thanks.
>
>  Richard
> 1987 33-II
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor
> Louisville, Kentucky 40202
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joel Aronson 
> To: cnc-list 
> Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:42 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>
> No RONA stores south of the border, but I will check out HD too!
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Sam Salter wrote:
>
>>  You can also get sheets of thin, white plastic (8' x 4') at Home Depot,
>> RONA and I suspect Lowes (but I've never been in a Lowes)
>> Not used it for headliners but I have used it for covers inside to put
>> over access holes for winch and jammer bolts.
>> sam :-)
>>
>>
>> On 2012-11-14, at 9:06 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:
>>
>> This plastic from McMaster looks like it would work:
>>
>>   Formable Chemical-Resistant Kydex Acrylic/PVC
>>
>>- Color: Black, gray, or white
>>-
>> - Temperature Range: -40° to 150° F
>>-
>> - Tensile Strength: Good
>>-
>> - Impact Strength: Excellent
>>
>>  Often used for vehicle interiors and equipment housings, this material
>> maintains its shape after heating and forming. It resists corrosive
>> chemicals and cleaning solutions. One side is textured and the other is
>> smooth. Width and length tolerances are ±1/8". Sheets meet UL 94V0 for
>> flame retardance. To Order: Please specify color.
>> View detailed performance properties for 
>> plastics.<http://www.mcmaster.com/#8574KAC>
>>   Sheets
>>12" × 12"
>>   12" × 24"
>>   24" × 48"
>>   48" × 48"
>>   48" × 96"
>>   Thick. Thick.
>> Tolerance   Each   Each   Each   Each   Each  1/8" ±0.009" 
>> 8650K11<http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K11>
>> $9.40 8650K12 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K12> $17.17 
>> 8650K13<http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K13>
>> $63.16 8650K14 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K14> $115.54 
>> 8650K15<http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K15>
>> $211.73
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM, D.Drake  wrote:
>>
>>> I picked up a pack at West Marine several years ago .Not cheap but works
>>> well
>>>  On 14/11/2012 10:44 AM, Gary Nylander wrote:
>>>
>>> Where do you get it?
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> 30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby,
>>> but over 50 miles to anything else
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Sam Salter 
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>>>
>>>  Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/
>>>
>>> It's like super industrial strength velcro.
>>>
>>> It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but
>>> it secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small
>>> piece about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world
>>> when we sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.
>>>
>>> sam :-)
>>> C7C 26  Liquorice
>>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote:
>>>
>&

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Richard N. Bush]

I hate to be the caboose on this conversation but I do not understand what is 
happening to the headliners on the boats, I've never had a headliner fall or 
come apart, can someone explain what is happening and possibly the cause? 
thanks.


Richard
1987 33-II


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
502-584-7255



-Original Message-
From: Joel Aronson 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels


No RONA stores south of the border, but I will check out HD too!



On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Sam Salter  wrote:


You can also get sheets of thin, white plastic (8' x 4') at Home Depot, RONA 
and I suspect Lowes (but I've never been in a Lowes)
Not used it for headliners but I have used it for covers inside to put over 
access holes for winch and jammer bolts.
sam :-)


On 2012-11-14, at 9:06 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:






This plastic from McMaster looks like it would work:



Formable Chemical-Resistant Kydex Acrylic/PVC


Color: Black, gray, or white


Temperature Range: -40° to 150° F


Tensile Strength: Good


Impact Strength: Excellent

Often used for vehicle interiors and equipment housings, this material 
maintains its shape after heating and forming. It resists corrosive chemicals 
and cleaning solutions. One side is textured and the other is smooth. Width and 
length tolerances are ±1/8". Sheets meet UL 94V0 for flame retardance. To 
Order: Please specify color.
View detailed performance properties for plastics.


Sheets















12" × 12"


12" × 24"


24" × 48"


48" × 48"


48" × 96"


Thick.
Thick.
Tolerance
 
Each
 
Each
 
Each
 
Each
 
Each


1/8"
±0.009"
8650K11
$9.40
8650K12
$17.17
8650K13
$63.16
8650K14
$115.54
8650K15
$211.73










On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM, D.Drake  wrote:

I picked up a pack at West Marine several years ago .Not cheap but works well 


On 14/11/2012 10:44 AM, Gary Nylander wrote:


Where do you get it?
 
Gary
30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but 
over 50 miles to anything else

- Original Message - 
From: Sam Salter 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels


Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/

It's like super industrial strength velcro.

It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but it 
secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small piece 
about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world when we 
sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.

sam :-)
C7C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote: 

Joel,

I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic sheeting.  
I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted the wood.  It 
is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up there using the stock 
Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro just doesn’t seem to work 
well, especially in rough conditions.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
C&C 35 Mk-III
"Midnight Mistress
Hampton VA


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels

Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too thick.  
Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl or found a 
replacement?  What glue would you use?



Thanks!



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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Sam Salter]

You can also get sheets of thin, white plastic (8' x 4') at Home Depot, RONA 
and I suspect Lowes (but I've never been in a Lowes)
Not used it for headliners but I have used it for covers inside to put over 
access holes for winch and jammer bolts.
sam :-)

On 2012-11-14, at 9:06 AM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> This plastic from McMaster looks like it would work:
> 
> Formable Chemical-Resistant Kydex Acrylic/PVC
> Color: Black, gray, or white
> 
> Temperature Range: -40° to 150° F
> 
> Tensile Strength: Good
> 
> Impact Strength: Excellent
> Often used for vehicle interiors and equipment housings, this material 
> maintains its shape after heating and forming. It resists corrosive chemicals 
> and cleaning solutions. One side is textured and the other is smooth. Width 
> and length tolerances are ±1/8". Sheets meet UL 94V0 for flame retardance. To 
> Order: Please specify color.
> 
> View detailed performance properties for plastics.
> Sheets
> 
> 12" × 12"
> 12" × 24"
> 24" × 48"
> 48" × 48"
> 48" × 96"
> Thick.Thick.
> Tolerance  EachEachEachEach   
>  Each
> 1/8"  ±0.009" 8650K11 $9.40   8650K12 $17.17  8650K13 $63.16  8650K14 $115.54 
> 8650K15 $211.73
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM, D.Drake  wrote:
> I picked up a pack at West Marine several years ago .Not cheap but works well 
> On 14/11/2012 10:44 AM, Gary Nylander wrote:
>> Where do you get it?
>>  
>> Gary
>> 30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but 
>> over 50 miles to anything else
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sam Salter
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>> 
>> Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:
>> 
>> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/
>> 
>> It's like super industrial strength velcro.
>> 
>> It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but it 
>> secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small 
>> piece about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world 
>> when we sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.
>> 
>> sam :-)
>> C7C 26  Liquorice
>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Joel,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic 
>>> sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted 
>>> the wood.  It is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up 
>>> there using the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro 
>>> just doesn’t seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jake
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jake Brodersen
>>> 
>>> C&C 35 Mk-III
>>> 
>>> "Midnight Mistress
>>> 
>>> Hampton VA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
>>> Aronson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too 
>>> thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl 
>>> or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Joel 
>>> 301 541 8551
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Sam Salter]

I was sailing the eastern shore of Maryland about 6 weeks ago - your right 
there is nothing there!
Get it online:
Sailrite: http://www.sailrite.com/3M-Dual-Lock-Type-250-1-Clear
Amazon, eBay, office depot

sam :-)


On 2012-11-14, at 8:44 AM, "Gary Nylander"  wrote:

> Where do you get it?
>  
> Gary
> 30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but 
> over 50 miles to anything else
> - Original Message -
> From: Sam Salter
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
> 
> Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:
> 
> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/
> 
> It's like super industrial strength velcro.
> 
> It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but it 
> secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small piece 
> about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world when we 
> sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.
> 
> sam :-)
> C7C 26  Liquorice
> Ghost Lake  Alberta
> 
> 
> On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote:
>> 
>> Joel,
>> I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic 
>> sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted 
>> the wood.  It is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up there 
>> using the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro just 
>> doesn’t seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.
>> Jake
>> Jake Brodersen
>> C&C 35 Mk-III
>> "Midnight Mistress
>> Hampton VA
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
>> Aronson
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>> Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too 
>> thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl 
>> or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?
>> Thanks!
>> -- 
>> Joel 
>> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[D.Drake]

I picked up a pack at West Marine several years ago .Not cheap but works 
well

On 14/11/2012 10:44 AM, Gary Nylander wrote:

Where do you get it?
Gary
30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's 
nearby, but over 50 miles to anything else


- Original Message -
*From:* Sam Salter <mailto:sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
    *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:


http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/

It's like super industrial strength velcro.

It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners
but it secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb)
with a small piece about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take
it all over the world when we sail and it's conquered big winds
and big seas.

sam :-)
C7C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote:


Joel,

I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using
plastic sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time
ago and just painted the wood.  It is only 1/8" thick.  ¼"
plywood would be hard to keep up there using the stock Velcro.  I
might screw my next set on, as the Velcro just doesn't seem to
work well, especially in rough conditions.

Jake

*/Jake Brodersen/*

*/C&C 35 Mk-III/*

*/"Midnight Mistress/*

*/Hampton VA/*

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf
Of *Joel Aronson
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Stus-List Headliner access panels

Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would
be too thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either
re-used the vinyl or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?

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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Gary Nylander]

Where do you get it?

Gary
30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but 
over 50 miles to anything else
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  Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels


  Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:

  
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/

  It's like super industrial strength velcro.

  It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but it 
secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small piece 
about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world when we 
sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.

  sam :-)
  C7C 26  Liquorice
  Ghost Lake  Alberta


  On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote: 
Joel,



I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic 
sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted the 
wood.  It is only 1/8" thick.  ¼" plywood would be hard to keep up there using 
the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro just doesn't 
seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.



Jake



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Hampton VA





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Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels



Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too 
thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl or 
found a replacement?  What glue would you use?



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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Joel Aronson]

Mine have vinyl that matches the headliner over plywood. The side
panels have screws with covers. Center ones are Velcro. I'll check
McMaster.

Joel Aronson


On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:16 PM, "Dennis C."  wrote:

> Joel,
>
> Not sure what your access panels look like. I replaced the headliner access 
> panels on my 35-1 with some white plastic sheets from mcmaster.com. The 
> sheets were smooth on one side, textured on the other. I think I used 1/8 
> inch thick.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touché 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:
>
>> Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too 
>> thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl 
>> or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Dennis C.]

Joel,

Not sure what your access panels look like. I replaced the headliner access 
panels on my 35-1 with some white plastic sheets from mcmaster.com. The sheets 
were smooth on one side, textured on the other. I think I used 1/8 inch thick. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too thick. 
>  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl or found 
> a replacement?  What glue would you use?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Wally Bryant]

Joel - I did this ten years ago, and it has held up very well and is 
light weight.  If you have the same kind of panels I do...



Wal


Joel Aronson wrote:

Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too
thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl
or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?

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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Sam Salter]

Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm 
almost positive this will:


http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/

It's like super industrial strength velcro.

It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not 
used it for headliners but it secures my 
"Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 
lb) with a small piece about  1 1/2" x 4". 
This stuff bites! We take it all over the 
world when we sail and it's conquered big 
winds and big seas.


sam :-)
C7C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote:


Joel,

I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am 
thinking about using plastic sheeting.  I 
stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time 
ago and just painted the wood.  It is only 
1/8" thick.  ¼" plywood would be hard to 
keep up there using the stock Velcro.  I 
might screw my next set on, as the Velcro 
just doesn't seem to work well, especially 
in rough conditions.


Jake

*/Jake Brodersen/*

*/C&C 35 Mk-III/*

*/"Midnight Mistress/*

*/Hampton VA/*

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*Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Stus-List Headliner access panels

Several of the panels have delaminated. 
 1/4 inch plywood would be too thick.  Is 
there a better replacement?  Has anyone 
either re-used the vinyl or found a 
replacement?  What glue would you use?


Thanks!

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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Jake Brodersen]

Joel,

 

If I go with plastic, I would go to McMaster-Carr.  They have everything.
One of Wal's favorite shopping places, besides the liquor store!

 

Jake

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:51 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

 

Jake

Something like Starboard?  Might check Interstate Plastics. Good idea!

Joel Aronson

 

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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Ron Casciato]

I'd be careful of Starboard...it's heavy for that application even
in 1/8" thickness and I don't actually know if it's available thin or in the
length dimensions you'd need.

The original wood panels used to be called "door skins" and are likely the
cover panels of hollow core doorsoften in luan mahogany plywood.
Those are still available.   The vinyl covering can be purchased from
Sailrite??? The sewing machine and sail repair materials company.  

I recommend using the small screw cap setsavailable at Home
Desperate or Lowe's.  The cap snaps on over the screw head and snaps to the
washer..easy to install and remove.  I used about 3 per panel down
the middle and they become invisible in a very short time.

Best,

Ron C.
Impromptu
C&C 38MKIIC'77
Mass Bay

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

Graham
 Thanks. I didn't know that is available in1/8 th inch. Time to google!

Joel Aronson


On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Graham Collins 
wrote:

> Hi Joel
> I replaced mine with 1/8" marine plywood, epoxy coated and then painted
with Tremclad "hammered finish" spray in navajo white - blends in perfectly.
>
> As Jake mentioned, and you may agree, the velcro does have some issues -
mine are pretty good but don't stay tight so I may add a couple of strategic
screws and caps.
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
>
>
> Joel Aronson wrote:
>> Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too
thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl
or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Joel Aronson]

Graham
 Thanks. I didn't know that is available in1/8 th inch. Time to google!

Joel Aronson


On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Graham Collins  wrote:

> Hi Joel
> I replaced mine with 1/8" marine plywood, epoxy coated and then painted with 
> Tremclad "hammered finish" spray in navajo white - blends in perfectly.
>
> As Jake mentioned, and you may agree, the velcro does have some issues - mine 
> are pretty good but don't stay tight so I may add a couple of strategic 
> screws and caps.
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
>
>
> Joel Aronson wrote:
>> Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too 
>> thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl 
>> or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Joel Aronson]

Jake
Something like Starboard?  Might check Interstate Plastics. Good idea!

Joel Aronson


On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Jake Brodersen  wrote:

Joel,



I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic
sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted
the wood.  It is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up
there using the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro
just doesn’t seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.



Jake



*Jake Brodersen*

*C&C 35 Mk-III*

*"Midnight Mistress*

*Hampton VA*





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*Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Stus-List Headliner access panels



Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too
thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl
or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?



Thanks!



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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Graham Collins]

Hi Joel
I replaced mine with 1/8" marine plywood, epoxy coated and then painted 
with Tremclad "hammered finish" spray in navajo white - blends in perfectly.


As Jake mentioned, and you may agree, the velcro does have some issues - 
mine are pretty good but don't stay tight so I may add a couple of 
strategic screws and caps.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11


Joel Aronson wrote:
Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too 
thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the 
vinyl or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?


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Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

[Jake Brodersen]

Joel,

 

I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic
sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted
the wood.  It is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up there
using the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro just
doesn’t seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

"Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels

 

Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too
thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl
or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?

 

Thanks!


 

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