Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

+1 on the marine beam red and green nav lights. 

Dennis C
Touché 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:44 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Agreed.  Whether it be replacing incandescent bulbs with LEDs in the 
> taillights of your car or the navigation lights on your boat, you need to put 
> a red bulb behind a red lens, a green bulb behind a green lens, and a yellow 
> bulb behind yellow turn signal lenses.
> 
> Lenses filter all colors except the desired output, and so you're stripping 
> out a lot of the light if you use white LEDs.
> 
> And, I can attest that when I put the MarineBeam LEDs in our bow lights, they 
> are truly bright!
> 
> Kindest Regards, 
> 
> Bruce 
> 
> 
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Thanks Shawn,  No need to go after the previous owner.  You got answers 
from Ken and Nathan that had two different sources of slightly different 
hull running lights.  I will be out at the boat and measure to see which 
fits most closely.  Hopefully it will be the one at Defender so I can 
pick them up at my annual March Defender foray.

Don


On 2/5/2020 9:49 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Don,

Some new bulb holders came with the boat, I can ask the previous owner 
if he knows. They don't appear to be marine grade though, so I don't 
know how they will hold up. If the fixtures don't pass the leak test, 
I will look at going with the marinebeam LED units.


--
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shawngwri...@gmail.com 
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:23 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Shawn,
Where did you get the bulb holders for the original hull "eye"
lights? Mine need replacing and have not found a source.
Don Kern
Fireball C&C 35 mk2
Bristol RI



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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

Agreed.  Whether it be replacing incandescent bulbs with LEDs in the taillights 
of your car or the navigation lights on your boat, you need to put a red bulb 
behind a red lens, a green bulb behind a green lens, and a yellow bulb behind 
yellow turn signal lenses.Lenses filter all colors except the desired output, 
and so you're stripping out a lot of the light if you use white LEDs.And, I can 
attest that when I put the MarineBeam LEDs in our bow lights, they are truly 
bright!Kindest Regards, Bruce Sent from Samsung tablet.
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Hi Don,

Some new bulb holders came with the boat, I can ask the previous owner if
he knows. They don't appear to be marine grade though, so I don't know how
they will hold up. If the fixtures don't pass the leak test, I will look at
going with the marinebeam LED units.

--
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shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:23 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Shawn,
> Where did you get the bulb holders for the original hull "eye" lights?
> Mine need replacing and have not found a source.
> Don Kern
> Fireball C&C 35 mk2
> Bristol RI
>
> On 2/4/2020 11:06 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the original
> in-hull "eye" lights which are currently not functional, and a bi-colour
> light hanging from the pulpit, which I don't like. I have new bulb holders
> for the original lights, so I will try to get them going again, or at least
> that's the plan. First, I want to do a hose test on them to see if they
> leak, as I suspect they do. If they can't be sealed well enough, they may
> have to go also...
>
> Alternatively, I need to replace the pulpit with a welded one, as the
> original is in rough shape and the bronze fittings are worn out. I have
> seen some nice compact LED bow lights integrated into newer pulpits, so
> that is an option too.
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

The original bow lights in the 70’s boats are sexy looking.

 

Bill

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Wright 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 11:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

 

Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the original 
in-hull "eye" lights which are currently not functional, and a bi-colour light 
hanging from the pulpit, which I don't like. I have new bulb holders for the 
original lights, so I will try to get them going again, or at least that's the 
plan. First, I want to do a hose test on them to see if they leak, as I suspect 
they do. If they can't be sealed well enough, they may have to go also...

 

Alternatively, I need to replace the pulpit with a welded one, as the original 
is in rough shape and the bronze fittings are worn out. I have seen some nice 
compact LED bow lights integrated into newer pulpits, so that is an option too. 


--

Shawn Wright

shawngwri...@gmail.com

S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35

https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto

 

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:12 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Shawn,

 

I think I might be missing something.  Are you planning to remove the light 
from the bow pulpit or the stern pulpit?

 

As I read it "although I plan to delete the pulpit light and re-activate the 
original bow lights" it almost sounds like you are referring to 2 different 
sets of red and green lights at the bow?

 

If you are removing the white light on the stern pulpit that shines 135° abaft 
the beam then what will you replace it with?  Hopefully not planning on using 
the white light from the tri-color?

 

Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD 

 

 

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 9:57 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List  
wrote:

Thanks, that makes sense to maintain both (although I plan to delete the pulpit 
light and re-activate the original bow lights). I wasn't aware the tri-light 
provides the aft light, but that makes sense. 


--

Shawn Wright

shawngwri...@gmail.com

S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35

https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto

 

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:59 AM Neil Andersen  
wrote:

What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead 
tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many (power)boaters 
don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.

 

You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat and use 
what is appropriate for where you are.

 

By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.

 

Neil A

1982 C&C FoxFire 32

Rock Hall, MD

 

Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

 

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Shawn Wright via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light? 

 

Our boat came with a new Davis LED anchor light, but I haven't pulled or been 
up the mast yet, so I attached it to one side of our solar arch, just above the 
panels, and we just run a cord with an accessory plug when required. We've been 
out in the dinghy at night, and it's clearly visible all around, unless you're 
quite close on the side that is blocked by the panels. I plan to move it to the 
masthead soon, but all this talk of tri-lights has me thinking about that 
option too. A tri-light meets the requirements for both bow lights and an 
anchor light, correct? So I just need a steaming light, and a stern light? 
(which I have). I don't like the pulpit mounted bow light I have (flimsy and a 
spinnaker magnet), and the in-hull bow lights are not functional at the moment. 

--

Shawn Wright

shawngwri...@gmail.com

S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35

https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto

 

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:50 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hello all, 

 

I read through your thoughtful responses, and realized the plastic lens up 
there is probably crazed/cracked suggesting full replacement.  

 

Then, it occurred to me that I don't like the idea of an anchor light 55+ feet 
up in the air.  Unless you know you're in an anchorage, it would be very easy 
to confuse the light (especially new, 600K bright LEDs) with background stars.  
I also think most people don't look for lights that high up in the sky - 
Especially folks in dinghies and power boats.  :)

 

That led me to ask myself - Why not just mount a new light to the top of the 
bimini or some other more visible place?  I have a stainless steel mount for an 
old exterior satellite radio antenna I no longer use, so I could easily mount 
and wire it, and in the process make it more likely that folks motoring around 
the anchorage would see my boat.

 

Everything I see indicates this would be COLREG requirements.

 

Thoughts?  

 

Br

Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

I also replaced my running lights with LEDs (direct replacement of baton-style 
bulbs).  Although my bow lights have red and green plastic lenses, the 
replacement bulbs are also red and green.  There is no mistaking my bow lights 
when I’m night sailing – they are bright.  

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Nathan Post via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 6:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nathan Post 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

 

I bought these bow lights for my 1981 C&C 34 last fall:

 

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=whitecap-led-side-lights-flush-mount 
<https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=whitecap-led-side-lights-flush-mount&path=-1|65136|2312550|2312557&id=2650416>
 &path=-1|65136|2312550|2312557&id=2650416

 

They are a drop in replacement fixture for the original in-hull bow running 
lights on my boat but sealed with LEDs.  I have yet to actually install them 
but did hold it up against the existing lights and it is the same shape, size 
and screw locations.  Seem well built out of stainless and glass.  On the list 
of spring projects. I have the mast down this winter and plan to add a tricolor 
to the top as well.  

 

The relay idea for automatic operation of the steaming light is a really good 
one - I might have to give that a shot when I wire everything back together.

 

- -

Nathan Post

S/V Wisper

1981 C&C 34CB

Lynn, MA





On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Donald Kern via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 Shawn,
Where did you get the bulb holders for the original hull "eye" lights? Mine 
need replacing and have not found a source.
Don Kern
Fireball C&C 35 mk2
Bristol RI

On 2/4/2020 11:06 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:

Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the original 
in-hull "eye" lights which are currently not functional, and a bi-colour light 
hanging from the pulpit, which I don't like. I have new bulb holders for the 
original lights, so I will try to get them going again, or at least that's the 
plan. First, I want to do a hose test on them to see if they leak, as I suspect 
they do. If they can't be sealed well enough, they may have to go also... 

 

Alternatively, I need to replace the pulpit with a welded one, as the original 
is in rough shape and the bronze fittings are worn out. I have seen some nice 
compact LED bow lights integrated into newer pulpits, so that is an option too. 


--

Shawn Wright

shawngwri...@gmail.com <mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com> 

S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35

https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto

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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Marine Beam Shark Eye LED Navigation Lights - Stainless Steel
https://store.marinebeam.com/shark-eye-led-navigation-lights-stainless-steel/


On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 08:21, schiller via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Shawn,
>
> You can get LED teardrop bow lights from marinebeam.com.  We replaced the
> bow lights on Glenn Gambels C&C 36 with a pair.  I am always impressed with
> the intensity of them.
>
> I replaced my pulpit mounted lights and teaming/deck with Marine Beam
> lights.  I haven't replaced the masthead tri-color yet.
>
> I have also replaced my interior square bulbs with the red/white LEDs.
> Still planning on replacing the reading light bulbs and fluorescent tubes.
>
> I am a big fan of marine beam.
>
> Neil Schiller
> C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
> Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
>
> On 2/4/2020 11:06 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the original
> in-hull "eye" lights which are currently not functional, and a bi-colour
> light hanging from the pulpit, which I don't like. I have new bulb holders
> for the original lights, so I will try to get them going again, or at least
> that's the plan. First, I want to do a hose test on them to see if they
> leak, as I suspect they do. If they can't be sealed well enough, they may
> have to go also...
>
> Alternatively, I need to replace the pulpit with a welded one, as the
> original is in rough shape and the bronze fittings are worn out. I have
> seen some nice compact LED bow lights integrated into newer pulpits, so
> that is an option too.
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:12 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Shawn,
>>
>> I think I might be missing something.  Are you planning to remove the
>> light from the bow pulpit or the stern pulpit?
>>
>> As I read it "although I plan to delete the pulpit light and re-activate
>> the original bow lights" it almost sounds like you are referring to 2
>> different sets of red and green lights at the bow?
>>
>> If you are removing the white light on the stern pulpit that shines 135°
>> abaft the beam then what will you replace it with?  Hopefully not planning
>> on using the white light from the tri-color?
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 9:57 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, that makes sense to maintain both (although I plan to delete the
>>> pulpit light and re-activate the original bow lights). I wasn't aware the
>>> tri-light provides the aft light, but that makes sense.
>>> --
>>> Shawn Wright
>>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>>> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>>> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:59 AM Neil Andersen <
>>> neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead
>>>> tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many
>>>> (power)boaters don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.
>>>>
>>>> You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat
>>>> and use what is appropriate for where you are.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.
>>>>
>>>> Neil A
>>>> 1982 C&C FoxFire 32
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>> Neil Andersen
>>>> 20691 Jamieson Rd
>>>> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Shawn
>>>> Wright via CnC-List 
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:27 PM
>>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> *Cc:* Shawn Wright
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>>>>
>>>> Our boat came with a new Davis LED anchor light, but I haven't pulled
>>>> or been up the mast yet, so I attached it to one side of our solar arch,
>>>> just above the panels, and we just run a cord with an accessory plug when
>>>> required. We've been out in the dinghy at night, and it's clearly visible
>>>> all around, unless you're quite close on 

Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[schiller via CnC-List]

Shawn,

You can get LED teardrop bow lights from marinebeam.com.  We replaced 
the bow lights on Glenn Gambels C&C 36 with a pair. I am always 
impressed with the intensity of them.


I replaced my pulpit mounted lights and teaming/deck with Marine Beam 
lights.  I haven't replaced the masthead tri-color yet.


I have also replaced my interior square bulbs with the red/white LEDs.  
Still planning on replacing the reading light bulbs and fluorescent tubes.


I am a big fan of marine beam.

Neil Schiller
C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 2/4/2020 11:06 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the 
original in-hull "eye" lights which are currently not functional, and 
a bi-colour light hanging from the pulpit, which I don't like. I have 
new bulb holders for the original lights, so I will try to get them 
going again, or at least that's the plan. First, I want to do a hose 
test on them to see if they leak, as I suspect they do. If they can't 
be sealed well enough, they may have to go also...


Alternatively, I need to replace the pulpit with a welded one, as the 
original is in rough shape and the bronze fittings are worn out. I 
have seen some nice compact LED bow lights integrated into newer 
pulpits, so that is an option too.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com <mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:12 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Shawn,

I think I might be missing something.  Are you planning to remove
the light from the bow pulpit or the stern pulpit?

As I read it "although I plan to delete the pulpit light and
re-activate the original bow lights" it almost sounds like you are
referring to 2 different sets of red and green lights at the bow?

If you are removing the white light on the stern pulpit that
shines 135° abaft the beam then what will you replace it with? 
Hopefully not planning on using the white light from the tri-color?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 9:57 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Thanks, that makes sense to maintain both (although I plan to
delete the pulpit light and re-activate the original bow
lights). I wasn't aware the tri-light provides the aft light,
but that makes sense.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com <mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:59 AM Neil Andersen
mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is required and what is smart are not always the
same.  A masthead tri-color is not what I would use here
in the Chesapeake as many (power)boaters don’t look up. 
At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.

You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both
on your boat and use what is appropriate for where you are.

By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.

Neil A
1982 C&C FoxFire 32
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


*From:* CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf of Shawn
Wright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:27 PM
    *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Cc:* Shawn Wright
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
Our boat came with a new Davis LED anchor light, but I
haven't pulled or been up the mast yet, so I attached it
to one side of our solar arch, just above the panels, and
we just run a cord with an accessory plug when required.
We've been out in the dinghy at night, and it's clearly
visible all around, unless you're quite close on the side
that is blocked by the panels. I plan to move it to the
masthead soon, but all this talk of tri-lights has me
thinking about that option too. A tri-light meets the
requirements for both bow lights and an anchor light,
correct? So I just need a steaming light, and a stern
light? (which I have). I don't like the pulpit mounted bow
light I have (flimsy and a spinnaker magnet), and the
in-hull bow lights are not functional at the 

Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Nathan Post via CnC-List]

I bought these bow lights for my 1981 C&C 34 last fall:

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=whitecap-led-side-lights-flush-mount&path=-1|65136|2312550|2312557&id=2650416

They are a drop in replacement fixture for the original in-hull bow running 
lights on my boat but sealed with LEDs.  I have yet to actually install them 
but did hold it up against the existing lights and it is the same shape, size 
and screw locations.  Seem well built out of stainless and glass.  On the list 
of spring projects. I have the mast down this winter and plan to add a tricolor 
to the top as well.  

The relay idea for automatic operation of the steaming light is a really good 
one - I might have to give that a shot when I wire everything back together.

- -
Nathan Post
S/V Wisper
1981 C&C 34CB
Lynn, MA

> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Donald Kern via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>  Shawn,
> Where did you get the bulb holders for the original hull "eye" lights? Mine 
> need replacing and have not found a source.
> Don Kern
> Fireball C&C 35 mk2
> Bristol RI
> 
> On 2/4/2020 11:06 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
>> Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the original 
>> in-hull "eye" lights which are currently not functional, and a bi-colour 
>> light hanging from the pulpit, which I don't like. I have new bulb holders 
>> for the original lights, so I will try to get them going again, or at least 
>> that's the plan. First, I want to do a hose test on them to see if they 
>> leak, as I suspect they do. If they can't be sealed well enough, they may 
>> have to go also...
>> 
>> Alternatively, I need to replace the pulpit with a welded one, as the 
>> original is in rough shape and the bronze fittings are worn out. I have seen 
>> some nice compact LED bow lights integrated into newer pulpits, so that is 
>> an option too. 
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Shawn,
Where did you get the bulb holders for the original hull "eye" lights? 
Mine need replacing and have not found a source.

Don Kern
Fireball C&C 35 mk2
Bristol RI

On 2/4/2020 11:06 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the 
original in-hull "eye" lights which are currently not functional, and 
a bi-colour light hanging from the pulpit, which I don't like. I have 
new bulb holders for the original lights, so I will try to get them 
going again, or at least that's the plan. First, I want to do a hose 
test on them to see if they leak, as I suspect they do. If they can't 
be sealed well enough, they may have to go also...


Alternatively, I need to replace the pulpit with a welded one, as the 
original is in rough shape and the bronze fittings are worn out. I 
have seen some nice compact LED bow lights integrated into newer 
pulpits, so that is an option too.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com 
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the original
in-hull "eye" lights which are currently not functional, and a bi-colour
light hanging from the pulpit, which I don't like. I have new bulb holders
for the original lights, so I will try to get them going again, or at least
that's the plan. First, I want to do a hose test on them to see if they
leak, as I suspect they do. If they can't be sealed well enough, they may
have to go also...

Alternatively, I need to replace the pulpit with a welded one, as the
original is in rough shape and the bronze fittings are worn out. I have
seen some nice compact LED bow lights integrated into newer pulpits, so
that is an option too.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:12 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Shawn,
>
> I think I might be missing something.  Are you planning to remove the
> light from the bow pulpit or the stern pulpit?
>
> As I read it "although I plan to delete the pulpit light and re-activate
> the original bow lights" it almost sounds like you are referring to 2
> different sets of red and green lights at the bow?
>
> If you are removing the white light on the stern pulpit that shines 135°
> abaft the beam then what will you replace it with?  Hopefully not planning
> on using the white light from the tri-color?
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 9:57 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, that makes sense to maintain both (although I plan to delete the
>> pulpit light and re-activate the original bow lights). I wasn't aware the
>> tri-light provides the aft light, but that makes sense.
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:59 AM Neil Andersen <
>> neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead
>>> tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many
>>> (power)boaters don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.
>>>
>>> You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat
>>> and use what is appropriate for where you are.
>>>
>>> By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.
>>>
>>> Neil A
>>> 1982 C&C FoxFire 32
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>> Neil Andersen
>>> 20691 Jamieson Rd
>>> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Shawn
>>> Wright via CnC-List 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:27 PM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc:* Shawn Wright
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>>>
>>> Our boat came with a new Davis LED anchor light, but I haven't pulled or
>>> been up the mast yet, so I attached it to one side of our solar arch, just
>>> above the panels, and we just run a cord with an accessory plug when
>>> required. We've been out in the dinghy at night, and it's clearly visible
>>> all around, unless you're quite close on the side that is blocked by the
>>> panels. I plan to move it to the masthead soon, but all this talk of
>>> tri-lights has me thinking about that option too. A tri-light meets the
>>> requirements for both bow lights and an anchor light, correct? So I just
>>> need a steaming light, and a stern light? (which I have). I don't like the
>>> pulpit mounted bow light I have (flimsy and a spinnaker magnet), and the
>>> in-hull bow lights are not functional at the moment.
>>> --
>>> Shawn Wright
>>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>>> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>>> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:50 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I read through your thoughtful responses, and realized the plastic lens
>>>> up there is probably crazed/cracked suggesting full replacement.
>>>>
>>>> Then, it occurred to me that I don't like the idea of an anchor light
>>>> 55+ feet up in the air.  Unless you know you're in an anchorage, it would
>&g

Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Shawn,

I think I might be missing something.  Are you planning to remove the light
from the bow pulpit or the stern pulpit?

As I read it "although I plan to delete the pulpit light and re-activate
the original bow lights" it almost sounds like you are referring to 2
different sets of red and green lights at the bow?

If you are removing the white light on the stern pulpit that shines 135°
abaft the beam then what will you replace it with?  Hopefully not planning
on using the white light from the tri-color?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 9:57 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks, that makes sense to maintain both (although I plan to delete the
> pulpit light and re-activate the original bow lights). I wasn't aware the
> tri-light provides the aft light, but that makes sense.
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:59 AM Neil Andersen 
> wrote:
>
>> What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead
>> tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many
>> (power)boaters don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.
>>
>> You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat
>> and use what is appropriate for where you are.
>>
>> By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.
>>
>> Neil A
>> 1982 C&C FoxFire 32
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>> Neil Andersen
>> 20691 Jamieson Rd
>> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>>
>> --
>> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Shawn
>> Wright via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:27 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Shawn Wright
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>>
>> Our boat came with a new Davis LED anchor light, but I haven't pulled or
>> been up the mast yet, so I attached it to one side of our solar arch, just
>> above the panels, and we just run a cord with an accessory plug when
>> required. We've been out in the dinghy at night, and it's clearly visible
>> all around, unless you're quite close on the side that is blocked by the
>> panels. I plan to move it to the masthead soon, but all this talk of
>> tri-lights has me thinking about that option too. A tri-light meets the
>> requirements for both bow lights and an anchor light, correct? So I just
>> need a steaming light, and a stern light? (which I have). I don't like the
>> pulpit mounted bow light I have (flimsy and a spinnaker magnet), and the
>> in-hull bow lights are not functional at the moment.
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:50 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I read through your thoughtful responses, and realized the plastic lens
>>> up there is probably crazed/cracked suggesting full replacement.
>>>
>>> Then, it occurred to me that I don't like the idea of an anchor light
>>> 55+ feet up in the air.  Unless you know you're in an anchorage, it would
>>> be very easy to confuse the light (especially new, 600K bright LEDs) with
>>> background stars.  I also think most people don't look for lights that high
>>> up in the sky - Especially folks in dinghies and power boats.  :)
>>>
>>> That led me to ask myself - Why not just mount a new light to the top of
>>> the bimini or some other more visible place?  I have a stainless steel
>>> mount for an old exterior satellite radio antenna I no longer use, so I
>>> could easily mount and wire it, and in the process make it more likely that
>>> folks motoring around the anchorage would see my boat.
>>>
>>> Everything I see indicates this would be COLREG requirements.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Bruce Whitmore
>>>
>>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 3, 2020, 11:36:51 PM EST, Len Mitchell <
>>> xfireca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce, our 1989 37+ had an Aqua signal tri light with strobe. Last
>>> summer I replaced it with another aqua signal LED tri light, without the
>>> strobe. It works great and it’s visible from a great distance b

Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

I'd like to see this circuit too, it sounds interesting. It might be a
while before I get to it, at the rate I'm going down rabbit holes currently
though. Yesterday my AC wiring job resulted in removal of my hot water
tank, among other things. With it removed, I now have a clearer view of my
engine starter and transmission that I want to service, so the list keeps
getting longer...
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 4:39 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was kinda halfway hoping someone might find it useful... The other half
> was fearful that someone would ask since I'll have difficulty finding it!
>
> Josh
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 6:29 PM Neil Andersen 
> wrote:
>
>> Want to share a circuit diagram?
>>
>> Neil A
>>
>> Neil Andersen
>> 20691 Jamieson Rd
>> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>>
>> --
>> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Josh
>> Muckley via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:15 PM
>> *To:* C&C List
>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>>
>> I use the tri-color because it lights up my windex.  It also doesn't
>> destroy my night vision like the deck lights do.  I keep a flashlight with
>> me or near the helm and I'm quick to light up the sail in the event of
>> another boat who's intentions are not clear.
>>
>> Realizing the inconvenience of remembering the appropriate light
>> selection and then remembering to do it at the appropriate time, I built a
>> small logic circuit out of 2 relays.  It has a day/night sensor and only
>> turns the circuit on during the night hours.  It defaults to the tri-color
>> and is initiated by operating that single switch at the nav station during
>> the boat "start up".  If desired to run the deck lights it will turn off
>> the tri-color automatically.  When starting the engine it turns on the deck
>> lights, steaming light, and turns off the tri-color.  When setting the
>> anchor light it will turn off all others.  The anchor bulb has a day/night
>> sensor too so leaving the boat before dusk and sleeping in past dawn is
>> accounted for.
>>
>> All of the lights can be overridden with the appropriate switch at the
>> nav station.
>>
>> An interesting by product of this setup is that if I have to get another
>> boat's attention quickly or start the engine in an emergency, just turning
>> the key shifts the lights.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 3:12 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We never use the tricolor unless offshore.  Poweboaters do not look up.
>>> Lately they seem to go by with their faces illuminated by their TV size
>>> chart plotters, so I figure if it isn’t on the plotter it does not exist.
>>> AIS is always on!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I*
>>>
>>> *www.dellabarba.com <http://www.dellabarba.com>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Neil
>>> Andersen via CnC-List
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 04, 2020 1:00 PM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc:* Neil Andersen 
>>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead
>>> tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many
>>> (power)boaters don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat
>>> and use what is appropriate for where you are.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Neil A
>>>
>>> 1982 C&C FoxFire 32
>>>
>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
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>>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Thanks, that makes sense to maintain both (although I plan to delete the
pulpit light and re-activate the original bow lights). I wasn't aware the
tri-light provides the aft light, but that makes sense.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:59 AM Neil Andersen 
wrote:

> What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead
> tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many
> (power)boaters don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.
>
> You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat
> and use what is appropriate for where you are.
>
> By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.
>
> Neil A
> 1982 C&C FoxFire 32
> Rock Hall, MD
>
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Shawn
> Wright via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:27 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Shawn Wright
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>
> Our boat came with a new Davis LED anchor light, but I haven't pulled or
> been up the mast yet, so I attached it to one side of our solar arch, just
> above the panels, and we just run a cord with an accessory plug when
> required. We've been out in the dinghy at night, and it's clearly visible
> all around, unless you're quite close on the side that is blocked by the
> panels. I plan to move it to the masthead soon, but all this talk of
> tri-lights has me thinking about that option too. A tri-light meets the
> requirements for both bow lights and an anchor light, correct? So I just
> need a steaming light, and a stern light? (which I have). I don't like the
> pulpit mounted bow light I have (flimsy and a spinnaker magnet), and the
> in-hull bow lights are not functional at the moment.
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:50 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I read through your thoughtful responses, and realized the plastic lens
>> up there is probably crazed/cracked suggesting full replacement.
>>
>> Then, it occurred to me that I don't like the idea of an anchor light 55+
>> feet up in the air.  Unless you know you're in an anchorage, it would be
>> very easy to confuse the light (especially new, 600K bright LEDs) with
>> background stars.  I also think most people don't look for lights that high
>> up in the sky - Especially folks in dinghies and power boats.  :)
>>
>> That led me to ask myself - Why not just mount a new light to the top of
>> the bimini or some other more visible place?  I have a stainless steel
>> mount for an old exterior satellite radio antenna I no longer use, so I
>> could easily mount and wire it, and in the process make it more likely that
>> folks motoring around the anchorage would see my boat.
>>
>> Everything I see indicates this would be COLREG requirements.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Bruce Whitmore
>>
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 3, 2020, 11:36:51 PM EST, Len Mitchell <
>> xfireca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bruce, our 1989 37+ had an Aqua signal tri light with strobe. Last summer
>> I replaced it with another aqua signal LED tri light, without the strobe.
>> It works great and it’s visible from a great distance but there are many
>> choices. Yours is probably an aqua signal but no guarantees. If it’s a
>> light on a stick, it is probably the same as Ken’s. I would consider new
>> rather than retrofitting an LED bulb, my plastic was brittle and crazed. I
>> would also want to maximize visibility and minimize power draw which may be
>> easier and more efficient going with a new fixture.
>> Len Mitchell
>> Crazy Legs
>> Midland On.
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I was kinda halfway hoping someone might find it useful... The other half
was fearful that someone would ask since I'll have difficulty finding it!

Josh

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 6:29 PM Neil Andersen 
wrote:

> Want to share a circuit diagram?
>
> Neil A
>
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:15 PM
> *To:* C&C List
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>
> I use the tri-color because it lights up my windex.  It also doesn't
> destroy my night vision like the deck lights do.  I keep a flashlight with
> me or near the helm and I'm quick to light up the sail in the event of
> another boat who's intentions are not clear.
>
> Realizing the inconvenience of remembering the appropriate light selection
> and then remembering to do it at the appropriate time, I built a small
> logic circuit out of 2 relays.  It has a day/night sensor and only turns
> the circuit on during the night hours.  It defaults to the tri-color and is
> initiated by operating that single switch at the nav station during the
> boat "start up".  If desired to run the deck lights it will turn off the
> tri-color automatically.  When starting the engine it turns on the deck
> lights, steaming light, and turns off the tri-color.  When setting the
> anchor light it will turn off all others.  The anchor bulb has a day/night
> sensor too so leaving the boat before dusk and sleeping in past dawn is
> accounted for.
>
> All of the lights can be overridden with the appropriate switch at the nav
> station.
>
> An interesting by product of this setup is that if I have to get another
> boat's attention quickly or start the engine in an emergency, just turning
> the key shifts the lights.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 3:12 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> We never use the tricolor unless offshore.  Poweboaters do not look up.
>> Lately they seem to go by with their faces illuminated by their TV size
>> chart plotters, so I figure if it isn’t on the plotter it does not exist.
>> AIS is always on!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I*
>>
>> *www.dellabarba.com <http://www.dellabarba.com>*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Neil
>> Andersen via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 04, 2020 1:00 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Neil Andersen 
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead
>> tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many
>> (power)boaters don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat
>> and use what is appropriate for where you are.
>>
>>
>>
>> By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil A
>>
>> 1982 C&C FoxFire 32
>>
>> Rock Hall, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>>
>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Want to share a circuit diagram?

Neil A

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Josh Muckley via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:15 PM
To: C&C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

I use the tri-color because it lights up my windex.  It also doesn't destroy my 
night vision like the deck lights do.  I keep a flashlight with me or near the 
helm and I'm quick to light up the sail in the event of another boat who's 
intentions are not clear.

Realizing the inconvenience of remembering the appropriate light selection and 
then remembering to do it at the appropriate time, I built a small logic 
circuit out of 2 relays.  It has a day/night sensor and only turns the circuit 
on during the night hours.  It defaults to the tri-color and is initiated by 
operating that single switch at the nav station during the boat "start up".  If 
desired to run the deck lights it will turn off the tri-color automatically.  
When starting the engine it turns on the deck lights, steaming light, and turns 
off the tri-color.  When setting the anchor light it will turn off all others.  
The anchor bulb has a day/night sensor too so leaving the boat before dusk and 
sleeping in past dawn is accounted for.

All of the lights can be overridden with the appropriate switch at the nav 
station.

An interesting by product of this setup is that if I have to get another boat's 
attention quickly or start the engine in an emergency, just turning the key 
shifts the lights.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 3:12 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
We never use the tricolor unless offshore.  Poweboaters do not look up. Lately 
they seem to go by with their faces illuminated by their TV size chart 
plotters, so I figure if it isn’t on the plotter it does not exist. AIS is 
always on!


Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com<http://www.dellabarba.com>



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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead 
tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many (power)boaters 
don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.

You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat and use 
what is appropriate for where you are.

By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.

Neil A
1982 C&C FoxFire 32
Rock Hall, MD


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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I use the tri-color because it lights up my windex.  It also doesn't
destroy my night vision like the deck lights do.  I keep a flashlight with
me or near the helm and I'm quick to light up the sail in the event of
another boat who's intentions are not clear.

Realizing the inconvenience of remembering the appropriate light selection
and then remembering to do it at the appropriate time, I built a small
logic circuit out of 2 relays.  It has a day/night sensor and only turns
the circuit on during the night hours.  It defaults to the tri-color and is
initiated by operating that single switch at the nav station during the
boat "start up".  If desired to run the deck lights it will turn off the
tri-color automatically.  When starting the engine it turns on the deck
lights, steaming light, and turns off the tri-color.  When setting the
anchor light it will turn off all others.  The anchor bulb has a day/night
sensor too so leaving the boat before dusk and sleeping in past dawn is
accounted for.

All of the lights can be overridden with the appropriate switch at the nav
station.

An interesting by product of this setup is that if I have to get another
boat's attention quickly or start the engine in an emergency, just turning
the key shifts the lights.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 3:12 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We never use the tricolor unless offshore.  Poweboaters do not look up.
> Lately they seem to go by with their faces illuminated by their TV size
> chart plotters, so I figure if it isn’t on the plotter it does not exist.
> AIS is always on!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I*
>
> *www.dellabarba.com <http://www.dellabarba.com>*
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Neil
> Andersen via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 04, 2020 1:00 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Neil Andersen 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>
>
>
> What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead
> tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many
> (power)boaters don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.
>
>
>
> You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat
> and use what is appropriate for where you are.
>
>
>
> By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.
>
>
>
> Neil A
>
> 1982 C&C FoxFire 32
>
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

We never use the tricolor unless offshore.  Poweboaters do not look up. Lately 
they seem to go by with their faces illuminated by their TV size chart 
plotters, so I figure if it isn't on the plotter it does not exist. AIS is 
always on!


Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil 
Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 1:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead 
tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many (power)boaters 
don't look up.  At sea, I wouldn't use anything else.

You can't use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat and use 
what is appropriate for where you are.

By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.

Neil A
1982 C&C FoxFire 32
Rock Hall, MD


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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

A warning on LED anchor light bulbs. My ancient big incandescent bulb has a 
“size”. I have come around the bend on a dark and hazy night to see a bunch of 
blue-white stars above the treeline that looked utterly disconnected from the 
boats at the surface level.
Bug issues aside, some kind of deck level light is a good thing. We have a 
couple $5 solar garden lights we sometimes use.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com


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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Just remember that a masthead tricolor with a steaming light is NOT a 
recognized nav light configuration; you need to use deck-level nav lights with 
a steaming light when under power.  Masthead tri can only be used when sailing.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> +1 on that.
>  
> In a seaway, the deck level navigation lights are not visible, until you are 
> one wave away or if you happen to be in sync with the other boat (both boats 
> at the top of the wave at the same time). The mast top light is visible for 
> at least hundreds of meters.
>  
> On flat water (a lake?, coastal??) the deck level lights are more natural 
> (easier to understand and spot).
>  
> Marek
>  
> 1994 C270 Legato
> Ottawa, ON
>  
> From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List <>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 13:00
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com <>
> Cc: Neil Andersen <>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?
>  
> What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead 
> tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many 
> (power)boaters don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.
>  
> You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat and 
> use what is appropriate for where you are.
>  
> By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.
>  
> Neil A
> 1982 C&C FoxFire 32
> Rock Hall, MD
>  
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>  
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

+1 on that.

In a seaway, the deck level navigation lights are not visible, until you are 
one wave away or if you happen to be in sync with the other boat (both boats at 
the top of the wave at the same time). The mast top light is visible for at 
least hundreds of meters.

On flat water (a lake?, coastal??) the deck level lights are more natural 
(easier to understand and spot).

Marek

1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON

From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 13:00
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen
Subject: Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead 
tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many (power)boaters 
don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.

You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat and use 
what is appropriate for where you are.

By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.

Neil A
1982 C&C FoxFire 32
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

What is required and what is smart are not always the same.  A masthead 
tri-color is not what I would use here in the Chesapeake as many (power)boaters 
don’t look up.  At sea, I wouldn’t use anything else.

You can’t use both at the same time, but you can have both on your boat and use 
what is appropriate for where you are.

By the way, the tri-color provides the aft facing white light.

Neil A
1982 C&C FoxFire 32
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Shawn Wright via 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

Our boat came with a new Davis LED anchor light, but I haven't pulled or been 
up the mast yet, so I attached it to one side of our solar arch, just above the 
panels, and we just run a cord with an accessory plug when required. We've been 
out in the dinghy at night, and it's clearly visible all around, unless you're 
quite close on the side that is blocked by the panels. I plan to move it to the 
masthead soon, but all this talk of tri-lights has me thinking about that 
option too. A tri-light meets the requirements for both bow lights and an 
anchor light, correct? So I just need a steaming light, and a stern light? 
(which I have). I don't like the pulpit mounted bow light I have (flimsy and a 
spinnaker magnet), and the in-hull bow lights are not functional at the moment.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com<mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:50 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello all,

I read through your thoughtful responses, and realized the plastic lens up 
there is probably crazed/cracked suggesting full replacement.

Then, it occurred to me that I don't like the idea of an anchor light 55+ feet 
up in the air.  Unless you know you're in an anchorage, it would be very easy 
to confuse the light (especially new, 600K bright LEDs) with background stars.  
I also think most people don't look for lights that high up in the sky - 
Especially folks in dinghies and power boats.  :)

That led me to ask myself - Why not just mount a new light to the top of the 
bimini or some other more visible place?  I have a stainless steel mount for an 
old exterior satellite radio antenna I no longer use, so I could easily mount 
and wire it, and in the process make it more likely that folks motoring around 
the anchorage would see my boat.

Everything I see indicates this would be COLREG requirements.

Thoughts?

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>


On Monday, February 3, 2020, 11:36:51 PM EST, Len Mitchell 
mailto:xfireca...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Bruce, our 1989 37+ had an Aqua signal tri light with strobe. Last summer I 
replaced it with another aqua signal LED tri light, without the strobe. It 
works great and it’s visible from a great distance but there are many choices. 
Yours is probably an aqua signal but no guarantees. If it’s a light on a stick, 
it is probably the same as Ken’s. I would consider new rather than retrofitting 
an LED bulb, my plastic was brittle and crazed. I would also want to maximize 
visibility and minimize power draw which may be easier and more efficient going 
with a new fixture.
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
Midland On.
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Our boat came with a new Davis LED anchor light, but I haven't pulled or
been up the mast yet, so I attached it to one side of our solar arch, just
above the panels, and we just run a cord with an accessory plug when
required. We've been out in the dinghy at night, and it's clearly visible
all around, unless you're quite close on the side that is blocked by the
panels. I plan to move it to the masthead soon, but all this talk of
tri-lights has me thinking about that option too. A tri-light meets the
requirements for both bow lights and an anchor light, correct? So I just
need a steaming light, and a stern light? (which I have). I don't like the
pulpit mounted bow light I have (flimsy and a spinnaker magnet), and the
in-hull bow lights are not functional at the moment.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:50 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I read through your thoughtful responses, and realized the plastic lens up
> there is probably crazed/cracked suggesting full replacement.
>
> Then, it occurred to me that I don't like the idea of an anchor light 55+
> feet up in the air.  Unless you know you're in an anchorage, it would be
> very easy to confuse the light (especially new, 600K bright LEDs) with
> background stars.  I also think most people don't look for lights that high
> up in the sky - Especially folks in dinghies and power boats.  :)
>
> That led me to ask myself - Why not just mount a new light to the top of
> the bimini or some other more visible place?  I have a stainless steel
> mount for an old exterior satellite radio antenna I no longer use, so I
> could easily mount and wire it, and in the process make it more likely that
> folks motoring around the anchorage would see my boat.
>
> Everything I see indicates this would be COLREG requirements.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> On Monday, February 3, 2020, 11:36:51 PM EST, Len Mitchell <
> xfireca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bruce, our 1989 37+ had an Aqua signal tri light with strobe. Last summer
> I replaced it with another aqua signal LED tri light, without the strobe.
> It works great and it’s visible from a great distance but there are many
> choices. Yours is probably an aqua signal but no guarantees. If it’s a
> light on a stick, it is probably the same as Ken’s. I would consider new
> rather than retrofitting an LED bulb, my plastic was brittle and crazed. I
> would also want to maximize visibility and minimize power draw which may be
> easier and more efficient going with a new fixture.
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> Midland On.
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Stus-List New thought re: anchor light?

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

There are replacement Aqua Signal lenses for some lights on the internet
that are a lot cheaper than replacement fixtures.  I replaced all my
running light lenses and bulbs last year.  I assume there are replacement
lenses for the anchor light as well.

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:50 AM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I read through your thoughtful responses, and realized the plastic lens up
> there is probably crazed/cracked suggesting full replacement.
>
> Then, it occurred to me that I don't like the idea of an anchor light 55+
> feet up in the air.  Unless you know you're in an anchorage, it would be
> very easy to confuse the light (especially new, 600K bright LEDs) with
> background stars.  I also think most people don't look for lights that high
> up in the sky - Especially folks in dinghies and power boats.  :)
>
> That led me to ask myself - Why not just mount a new light to the top of
> the bimini or some other more visible place?  I have a stainless steel
> mount for an old exterior satellite radio antenna I no longer use, so I
> could easily mount and wire it, and in the process make it more likely that
> folks motoring around the anchorage would see my boat.
>
> Everything I see indicates this would be COLREG requirements.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> On Monday, February 3, 2020, 11:36:51 PM EST, Len Mitchell <
> xfireca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bruce, our 1989 37+ had an Aqua signal tri light with strobe. Last summer
> I replaced it with another aqua signal LED tri light, without the strobe.
> It works great and it’s visible from a great distance but there are many
> choices. Yours is probably an aqua signal but no guarantees. If it’s a
> light on a stick, it is probably the same as Ken’s. I would consider new
> rather than retrofitting an LED bulb, my plastic was brittle and crazed. I
> would also want to maximize visibility and minimize power draw which may be
> easier and more efficient going with a new fixture.
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> Midland On.
> Sent from my iPad
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