Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
Hi, If the soleonid moves but motor does not turn it may well be the solenoid itself, assuming all high amperage connexions are clean and tight . When this happens and a screwdriver between the 2 + posts make it work then it is the connexion between the 2 posts inside the solenoid. beware of sparks when you perform tests ( I have an Atomic 4 ) SylvainC MkIII On Friday, July 3, 2020, 2:22:46 PM EDT, General Gao via CnC-List wrote: Hi everyone, I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not turn. Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at? Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced community. thank you, Bo___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Starter or wire connection
Bo As stated earlier, corrosion is our enemy. You state that you usually need to turn the key a couple of times - not familiar with your model, mine has a key that simply turns on the ignition circuit and a push button that energizes the starter solenoid. Yanmar keys are very poor pieces of engineering, if you actually have a start position on your key, as in an automobile, you might want to look there for a worn out contact. But first priority would be ALL of the battery wiring: battery(s) ground cable(s), battery positive terminal, battery positive cable to starter/solenoid terminal(s). Remove each one at a time, degrease if dirty, use fine sandpaper like 220 or higher on the terminals to remove any corrosion, and re-attach each one. Solenoid will have a small gauge (maybe 16 or 18 awg) wire (maybe red) that provides the circuit from the engine control panel to the starter; clean that as the battery cables. If still you still have problem, look at the key/starter button - start by cleaning terminals there, then check the switch.starter button with a continuity checker for "flaky" operation. RayK S/V Genesis C 32 -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: July 3, 2020 4:48 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 174, Issue 13 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
I had the same problem about 5 years ago! After 40 or so years, it’s usually corrosion on terminals or untined original wiring! Check and clean the ground connection (usually on one of the transmission casing bolts on the back of the gearbox). After all these years, it may be prudent to change out the battery/starter/ground main cables. You can buy pre-made cables with ends at Canadian Tire (not sure about US, but somewhere like Pep-Boys?) These won’t be tinned either, but the first set lasted 40 years 路♂️ Sam Salter C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On Jul 3, 2020, at 12:22 PM, General Gao via CnC-List wrote: Hi everyone, I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not turn. Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at? Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced community. thank you, Bo ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
I agree, clean the terminals first, it’s worked for me on cars a couple times. A lot easier than replacing starter motors if it works. Tom S Usually corrosion is the culprit. Clean the terminals on the starter wires. On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 14:22 General Gao via CnC-List wrote: Hi everyone, I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not turn. Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at? Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced community. thank you, Bo ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Joel ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
Check the battery terminals as well for corrosion and the condition of the battery. Ron Wild Cheri C 30-1 STL On Friday, July 3, 2020, 01:50:35 PM CDT, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: Is it a Yanmar? If so, try running a temporary dedicated wire from the "I" connection on the ignition switch or the positive side of the starter button to the solenoid. If it starts strongly, make the wire permanent bypassing the harness near the engine. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
thanks for the kind suggestions. the engine is a universal 3 cylinder diesel. I will see if I can at least take a look at the wires. On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:50 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > Is it a Yanmar? If so, try running a temporary dedicated wire from the > "I" connection on the ignition switch or the positive side of the starter > button to the solenoid. If it starts strongly, make the wire permanent > bypassing the harness near the engine. > > > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:22 PM General Gao via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually >> rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not >> turn. >> >> Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter >> issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at? >> >> Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced >> community. >> >> thank you, >> >> Bo >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
Is it a Yanmar? If so, try running a temporary dedicated wire from the "I" connection on the ignition switch or the positive side of the starter button to the solenoid. If it starts strongly, make the wire permanent bypassing the harness near the engine. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:22 PM General Gao via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually > rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not > turn. > > Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter > issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at? > > Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced > community. > > thank you, > > Bo > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
Hitting electric motors often results in broken magnets inside the motor and then more problems. I would pull the starter and have it bench tested. Likely you will find some crunchy/corroded wiring in the process. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
Usually corrosion is the culprit. Clean the terminals on the starter wires. On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:31 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Get a second person to help. While they are attempting to start, you can > be down below giving the starter a love tap with a heavy implement. If it > starts then you probably need to rebuild the starter. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 14:22 General Gao via CnC-List > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually >> rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not >> turn. >> >> Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter >> issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at? >> >> Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced >> community. >> >> thank you, >> >> Bo >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -- Joel ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter or wire connection
Get a second person to help. While they are attempting to start, you can be down below giving the starter a love tap with a heavy implement. If it starts then you probably need to rebuild the starter. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 14:22 General Gao via CnC-List wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I usually have to turn the key a few times for the starter to actually > rotate. I can hear the solenoid clicking even when the starter does not > turn. > > Would this indicate it is just a wire or connector issue? Or a starter > issue? Or if further investigation needed, what should be looked at? > > Just want to see if I can get advice from the much more experienced > community. > > thank you, > > Bo > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment
Just pay extra attention to where your fingers are resting before using it! Bill Bina On 4/12/2016 1:57 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: I have one. I have a fuse in line with it that is not normally kept in so that it does not get activated accidently. It is very handy when you are working on the engine. Joe Coquina ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment
No reason why it won’t work. In our motor home, we have 3 start/run/stop switches for the generator. 1 on the dash, 1 on the kitchen range hood and 1 on the generator. No problems starting from one position and stopping from another. Stu ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment
I have one. I have a fuse in line with it that is not normally kept in so that it does not get activated accidently. It is very handy when you are working on the engine. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 13:36 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment Sometimes it is desirable to be able to have a starter switch inside when working on my motor. How have people on this list accomplished this? Is it a temporary or permanent solution? Mike ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List starter switch in engine compartment
If the terminals on your starter solenoid are easily accessible a hand held switch like this with a couple of alligator clips and a few feet of wire would work well. http://www.vetco.net/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=10984=t1h0qv9lp0843n8nhkltoav8j1 http://www.vetco.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=10984 Ken H. On 12 April 2016 at 14:35, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-Listwrote: > Sometimes it is desirable to be able to have a starter switch inside when > working on my motor. > > > > How have people on this list accomplished this? Is it a temporary or > permanent solution? > > > > Mike > > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All > Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Starter
Glad to hear it Francois. I ordered a switch and will hopefully have it by next week. In the meantime, this weekend I will take the advice of the others and will clean all connectors, check engine ground, and solenoid this weekend. Cheers, Mike Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the transmission to enginebolt. Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Mike, I had this issue on the Enterprise-A (1978 CC 34) once. It was the solenoid. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starter
Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the button pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the contacts within the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean the contacts by multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key off. If you have voltage across the button, then check for voltage between the button and the solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and solenoid. That you can start on the 2nd button push suggest that the solenoid and fuses are OK. Ed CC 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the transmission to engine bolt. Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Mike, This happens to me a few times each year. I will try to start with the switch up to 3 times before I go looking. Most times it starts on the second or third attempt. FTC (failure to crank) is most often resolved by wiggling the connections on the fuse at the back of the head. A couple of times the connections at the back of the panel enjoyed caressing. Someday I will deal with the issue but today is not the day. Tomorrow doesn't look so good either. :) The weather is truly grand on the West Coast these past months. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 Ex A4, current is Yanmar 2QM20, next is a Universal 25 (on a dolly in the shed) At 07:51 AM 28/07/2015, you wrote: I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Had the same symptoms last year. Tested the voltage across the start button terminals on the back of the panel and found 12+ volts so concluded that was not the issue, but could not find the cause. The mechanic tested and found the same voltage, but insufficient current. There were partial breaks in some of the wires at / inside the wire harness that at times would connect and other times not, until it quit completely. He cut the harness out and using butt connectors directly wired the panel. Worked every time since. Moral of the story; check voltage and current. And any wiring fault can lead to what appears to be a faulty start button. Brian From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edward Levert via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edward Levert weeselev...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Starter Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the button pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the contacts within the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean the contacts by multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key off. If you have voltage across the button, then check for voltage between the button and the solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and solenoid. That you can start on the 2nd button push suggest that the solenoid and fuses are OK. Ed CC 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the transmission to engine bolt. Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net mailto:mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I've had owners call me a couple times on this issue with Yanmars. Most likely problems have been either the start button switch or the connector in the wiring harness. Test the start button by jumping across the back. If starter engages strongly, push the button, If starter is weak or doesn't engage, then contacts on inside of start button are carboned up. As for the connector, remove any tape, pull apart, spread TefGel in both sides, connect and pull apart several times. Try it. If it works, re-tape it. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Had the same symptoms last year. Tested the voltage across the start button terminals on the back of the panel and found 12+ volts so concluded that was not the issue, but could not find the cause. The mechanic tested and found the same voltage, but insufficient current. There were partial breaks in some of the wires at / inside the wire harness that at times would connect and other times not, until it quit completely. He cut the harness out and using butt connectors directly wired the panel. Worked every time since. Moral of the story; check voltage and current. And any wiring fault can lead to what appears to be a faulty start button. Brian *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edward Levert via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:18 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Edward Levert weeselev...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Starter Start first at the switch. Test for power across the terminals with the button pushed. If no voltage is seen on the 1st push, it is likely the contacts within the switch are dirty. You can sometimes temporarily clean the contacts by multiple pushes of the starter button with the ignition key off. If you have voltage across the button, then check for voltage between the button and the solenoid. Clean the terminals on the wires, button, and solenoid. That you can start on the 2nd button push suggest that the solenoid and fuses are OK. Ed CC 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, jhnelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Do you have power at the panel...if warning lights/buzzer? If not then could be fuse on back of motor that gives power. Otherwise, possible ground at the transmission to engine bolt. Those are two simple but we'll hidden things to check. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Michael Crombie via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 07-28-2015 11:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net Subject: Stus-List Starter I've noticed a few times this season that when i push the start button for my Yanmar 2GM20F nothing happens. When I push it a second time, the engine starts right up. What is the most efficient way of debugging this problem? Should I start up at the push button switch or at the solenoid? Thanks in advance, Mike Atacama, 33 mkii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Starter
Everything everyone else said is good. My 2 cents: sometimes a tiny break in a wire or contact will prevent current from flowing, but after a few seconds of power the wire heats up from the resistance and expands enough to close the circuit. Wire does get old. Wal ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com