Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Out here on the East Coast (South Coast MA) very different experience with “The 
Navtech Guy”.  Spent almost 1 boat buck within 2 years to realize I needed to 
go to a real hydraulic shop and get what I needed for a fraction (10%) of the 
price.

Nuf’ said.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 3:32 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

There are lots of discussions on the web about repairing hydraulic backstays.  
The one overwhelming constant in most of them is the high regard folks have for 
Lew Townsend's work.

I wanted to use him to repair mine a couple years ago.  Contacted him but he 
was just about to start a 3 week vacation.  Being impatient, I chose another 
repair shop.  They did a complete and expensive rebuild on my Navtec.  After 
re-install, it lost tension ever so slightly over time.  I'd put some tension 
on it, leave the boat for a week and return to a loose back stay.  Not a big 
deal while sailing or racing given the short time frame of those activities but 
irritating nonetheless.  After a couple years, it now seems to hold tension 
over time.

Wish I'd waited and sent it to Lew.  After he returned from his vacation, he 
contacted me to see if I still needed his help.  I can say without reservation 
that if I need my adjuster worked on again, it will go to Lew.
  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:20 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Worked great!  I've had at least 3 different things shipped to him on separate 
occasions.  Cost of shipping sucks but knowing that it is done correctly is 
worth it.

Josh


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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

There are lots of discussions on the web about repairing hydraulic
backstays.  The one overwhelming constant in most of them is the high
regard folks have for Lew Townsend's work.

I wanted to use him to repair mine a couple years ago.  Contacted him but
he was just about to start a 3 week vacation.  Being impatient, I chose
another repair shop.  They did a complete and expensive rebuild on my
Navtec.  After re-install, it lost tension ever so slightly over time.  I'd
put some tension on it, leave the boat for a week and return to a loose
back stay.  Not a big deal while sailing or racing given the short time
frame of those activities but irritating nonetheless.  After a couple
years, it now seems to hold tension over time.

Wish I'd waited and sent it to Lew.  After he returned from his vacation,
he contacted me to see if I still needed his help.  I can say without
reservation that if I need my adjuster worked on again, it will go to Lew.
  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:20 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Worked great!  I've had at least 3 different things shipped to him on
> separate occasions.  Cost of shipping sucks but knowing that it is done
> correctly is worth it.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Worked great!  I've had at least 3 different things shipped to him on
separate occasions.  Cost of shipping sucks but knowing that it is done
correctly is worth it.

Josh

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 15:09 Allen Miles via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Josh,
>
> You dealt with Lew in Seattle?  That's a haul from the Solomons, MD.
>
> How did that work out?
>
> Allen
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:22 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Ugh!  Thanks Alan, for properly stating Lew's number.  Sorry my number
>> for Lew was completely wrong!  Please DISREGARD my previous email.  As Alan
>> stated, Lew's proper info is:
>> 206-498-7282
>> lewtowns...@comcast.net
>>
>> Apologies,
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 13:42 ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My hydraulic backstay failed while on an ocean race. I didn't notice it
>>> until we started slipping on the hydraulic fluid all over the cockpit
>>> floor. We used a spare halyard as a backstay until we finished the race.
>>>
>>> I have all my hydraulic work done by Lew Townsend in Seattle. He has
>>> done work for several people on the list.. Pretty far for you, but if you
>>> want to talk with Lew, you can reach him at: 206-498-7282.
>>> lewtowns...@comcast.net
>>>
>>> Alan Bergen
>>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:45 AM Allen Miles via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Jake,

 I know you sold Midnight Mistress, but my HYC based C&C 30-2 could use
 new seals.  Do you remember who you used for the job? I talked to a Hampton
 rigger and he wanted to send it to New York to get the unit rebuilt. I
 liked the idea of your cheap and easy fix.

 Thanks for your help,

 Allen Miles
 S/V Septima
 HYC, Hampton, VA

 On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:17 AM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dan,
>
>
>
> That sounds pretty normal for a leaky seal to not hold pressure.  It’s
> odd that you leaked so much fluid though.  The backstay is the highest 
> part
> of the system.  I would think that the pressure would eventually leak down
> to zero and then stop leaking altogether.
>
>
>
> I’ve had my seals replaced before.  Cheap and easy fix.  I’ve also
> noticed that if you keep the top seal covered, it lasts longer.  Some 
> folks
> use a foam can holder for this, although it doesn’t look that great.
> Keeping the seal out of the sun will keep it lasting longer.
>
>
>
> Jake
>
>
>
>
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
>
> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>
> *Hampton VA*
>
> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Dan
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2018 23:18
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dan 
> *Subject:* Stus-List hydraulic backstay
>
>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic
> fluid around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably
> needs replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has
> leaked out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had
> temperatures as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if
> this leaking is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with
> leaving my hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> Breakaweigh
>
> C&C44
>
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Allen Miles via CnC-List]

Josh,

You dealt with Lew in Seattle?  That's a haul from the Solomons, MD.

How did that work out?

Allen

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:22 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ugh!  Thanks Alan, for properly stating Lew's number.  Sorry my number for
> Lew was completely wrong!  Please DISREGARD my previous email.  As Alan
> stated, Lew's proper info is:
> 206-498-7282
> lewtowns...@comcast.net
>
> Apologies,
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 13:42 ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> My hydraulic backstay failed while on an ocean race. I didn't notice it
>> until we started slipping on the hydraulic fluid all over the cockpit
>> floor. We used a spare halyard as a backstay until we finished the race.
>>
>> I have all my hydraulic work done by Lew Townsend in Seattle. He has done
>> work for several people on the list.. Pretty far for you, but if you want
>> to talk with Lew, you can reach him at: 206-498-7282.
>> lewtowns...@comcast.net
>>
>> Alan Bergen
>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:45 AM Allen Miles via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jake,
>>>
>>> I know you sold Midnight Mistress, but my HYC based C&C 30-2 could use
>>> new seals.  Do you remember who you used for the job? I talked to a Hampton
>>> rigger and he wanted to send it to New York to get the unit rebuilt. I
>>> liked the idea of your cheap and easy fix.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>
>>> Allen Miles
>>> S/V Septima
>>> HYC, Hampton, VA
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:17 AM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Dan,



 That sounds pretty normal for a leaky seal to not hold pressure.  It’s
 odd that you leaked so much fluid though.  The backstay is the highest part
 of the system.  I would think that the pressure would eventually leak down
 to zero and then stop leaking altogether.



 I’ve had my seals replaced before.  Cheap and easy fix.  I’ve also
 noticed that if you keep the top seal covered, it lasts longer.  Some folks
 use a foam can holder for this, although it doesn’t look that great.
 Keeping the seal out of the sun will keep it lasting longer.



 Jake





 *Jake Brodersen*

 *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*

 *Hampton VA*

 [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]







 *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Dan
 via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2018 23:18
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc:* Dan 
 *Subject:* Stus-List hydraulic backstay



 Hey everyone,

 I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic
 fluid around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably
 needs replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has
 leaked out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had
 temperatures as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if
 this leaking is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with
 leaving my hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?



 Thanks,



 Dan

 Breakaweigh

 C&C44

 Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Ugh!  Thanks Alan, for properly stating Lew's number.  Sorry my number for
Lew was completely wrong!  Please DISREGARD my previous email.  As Alan
stated, Lew's proper info is:
206-498-7282
lewtowns...@comcast.net

Apologies,
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 13:42 ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
wrote:

> My hydraulic backstay failed while on an ocean race. I didn't notice it
> until we started slipping on the hydraulic fluid all over the cockpit
> floor. We used a spare halyard as a backstay until we finished the race.
>
> I have all my hydraulic work done by Lew Townsend in Seattle. He has done
> work for several people on the list.. Pretty far for you, but if you want
> to talk with Lew, you can reach him at: 206-498-7282.
> lewtowns...@comcast.net
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:45 AM Allen Miles via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Jake,
>>
>> I know you sold Midnight Mistress, but my HYC based C&C 30-2 could use
>> new seals.  Do you remember who you used for the job? I talked to a Hampton
>> rigger and he wanted to send it to New York to get the unit rebuilt. I
>> liked the idea of your cheap and easy fix.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>> Allen Miles
>> S/V Septima
>> HYC, Hampton, VA
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:17 AM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That sounds pretty normal for a leaky seal to not hold pressure.  It’s
>>> odd that you leaked so much fluid though.  The backstay is the highest part
>>> of the system.  I would think that the pressure would eventually leak down
>>> to zero and then stop leaking altogether.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve had my seals replaced before.  Cheap and easy fix.  I’ve also
>>> noticed that if you keep the top seal covered, it lasts longer.  Some folks
>>> use a foam can holder for this, although it doesn’t look that great.
>>> Keeping the seal out of the sun will keep it lasting longer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jake
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>>
>>> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>>>
>>> *Hampton VA*
>>>
>>> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Dan via
>>> CnC-List
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2018 23:18
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc:* Dan 
>>> *Subject:* Stus-List hydraulic backstay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic
>>> fluid around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably
>>> needs replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has
>>> leaked out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had
>>> temperatures as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if
>>> this leaking is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with
>>> leaving my hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Breakaweigh
>>>
>>> C&C44
>>>
>>> Halifax, NS
>>> ___
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

My hydraulic backstay failed while on an ocean race. I didn't notice it
until we started slipping on the hydraulic fluid all over the cockpit
floor. We used a spare halyard as a backstay until we finished the race.

I have all my hydraulic work done by Lew Townsend in Seattle. He has done
work for several people on the list.. Pretty far for you, but if you want
to talk with Lew, you can reach him at: 206-498-7282.
lewtowns...@comcast.net

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:45 AM Allen Miles via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jake,
>
> I know you sold Midnight Mistress, but my HYC based C&C 30-2 could use new
> seals.  Do you remember who you used for the job? I talked to a Hampton
> rigger and he wanted to send it to New York to get the unit rebuilt. I
> liked the idea of your cheap and easy fix.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Allen Miles
> S/V Septima
> HYC, Hampton, VA
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:17 AM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>>
>>
>> That sounds pretty normal for a leaky seal to not hold pressure.  It’s
>> odd that you leaked so much fluid though.  The backstay is the highest part
>> of the system.  I would think that the pressure would eventually leak down
>> to zero and then stop leaking altogether.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve had my seals replaced before.  Cheap and easy fix.  I’ve also
>> noticed that if you keep the top seal covered, it lasts longer.  Some folks
>> use a foam can holder for this, although it doesn’t look that great.
>> Keeping the seal out of the sun will keep it lasting longer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jake
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>
>> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>>
>> *Hampton VA*
>>
>> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Dan via
>> CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2018 23:18
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Dan 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List hydraulic backstay
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid
>> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs
>> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked
>> out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures
>> as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking
>> is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my
>> hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Breakaweigh
>>
>> C&C44
>>
>> Halifax, NS
>> ___
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Lew Townsend is an authorized service provider for Navtec
(917) 704-5233

While replacing the seals is cheap and simple, I would encourage you to
consider having Lew give you a quote a d explanation of services.  He found
a number of different deficiencies with my back stay hydraulics beyond just
seals.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 12:45 Allen Miles via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Jake,
>
> I know you sold Midnight Mistress, but my HYC based C&C 30-2 could use new
> seals.  Do you remember who you used for the job? I talked to a Hampton
> rigger and he wanted to send it to New York to get the unit rebuilt. I
> liked the idea of your cheap and easy fix.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Allen Miles
> S/V Septima
> HYC, Hampton, VA
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:17 AM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>>
>>
>> That sounds pretty normal for a leaky seal to not hold pressure.  It’s
>> odd that you leaked so much fluid though.  The backstay is the highest part
>> of the system.  I would think that the pressure would eventually leak down
>> to zero and then stop leaking altogether.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve had my seals replaced before.  Cheap and easy fix.  I’ve also
>> noticed that if you keep the top seal covered, it lasts longer.  Some folks
>> use a foam can holder for this, although it doesn’t look that great.
>> Keeping the seal out of the sun will keep it lasting longer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jake
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>
>> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>>
>> *Hampton VA*
>>
>> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Dan via
>> CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2018 23:18
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Dan 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List hydraulic backstay
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid
>> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs
>> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked
>> out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures
>> as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking
>> is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my
>> hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Breakaweigh
>>
>> C&C44
>>
>> Halifax, NS
>> ___
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Allen Miles via CnC-List]

Jake,

I know you sold Midnight Mistress, but my HYC based C&C 30-2 could use new
seals.  Do you remember who you used for the job? I talked to a Hampton
rigger and he wanted to send it to New York to get the unit rebuilt. I
liked the idea of your cheap and easy fix.

Thanks for your help,

Allen Miles
S/V Septima
HYC, Hampton, VA

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:17 AM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dan,
>
>
>
> That sounds pretty normal for a leaky seal to not hold pressure.  It’s odd
> that you leaked so much fluid though.  The backstay is the highest part of
> the system.  I would think that the pressure would eventually leak down to
> zero and then stop leaking altogether.
>
>
>
> I’ve had my seals replaced before.  Cheap and easy fix.  I’ve also noticed
> that if you keep the top seal covered, it lasts longer.  Some folks use a
> foam can holder for this, although it doesn’t look that great.  Keeping the
> seal out of the sun will keep it lasting longer.
>
>
>
> Jake
>
>
>
>
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
>
> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>
> *Hampton VA*
>
> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Dan via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2018 23:18
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dan 
> *Subject:* Stus-List hydraulic backstay
>
>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked
> out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures
> as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking
> is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my
> hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> Breakaweigh
>
> C&C44
>
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic Backstay - Best Fluid?

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

AW 32 XL Hydraulic Oil.

 

SAILTEC, INC.

2930 CONGER COURT, OSHKOSH, WI 54904 USA

TEL: 920-233-4242 FAX: 920-233-8767

i...@sailtec.com

TO ADD OIL TO AN INTEGRAL ADJUSTER

 Sailtec recommends using a premium hydraulic oil, ISO 32 or lighter.

 Oil, fittings & tube must be clean.

 Fully extend piston rod.

 Disconnect outside oil line from the upper fitting/elbow.

 Fill a 3/8” piece of flexible hose (CLEAR is best) with ISO Grade 32 premium 
oil. Attach the clear

flexible hose to upper elbow (the 3/8” hose should push on to the 7/16” elbow 
threads).

Place the other end of hose in a reservoir of hydraulic oil. This line will act 
as a siphon so it needs to

be primed and free of most air.

 Connect a section of hose to the other (pump) elbow or stainless line and run 
it to a pan or bottle to

collect the overflow oil.

 Slowly retract/push the piston rod into cylinder. [Hint: This works best with 
the integral upside down.]

 When oil stops being drawn from reservoir, the cylinder is filled, if the 
siphon line is free of most air

bubbles. Reconnect the stainless line and pump system.

 If air bubbles are in the system it won’t hold pressure. If that happens, 
pull piston rod in and out a

few times. You may have to allow gravity to work air out.

CARTRIDGE VALVE ASSEMBLY INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS

 Line up hex nuts (one under knob, one on stem).

 Install knob on stem.

 Lubricate ‘O’ ring on tip.

 Turn the valve into the valve port: turn in very slowly, wiggle the body a 
little so ‘O’ rings find port,

slide into place.

 Tighten down securely with wrench.

Pressure (PSI) Reading and (#) Tension Cyl. Diameter Cyl. Bore

-08 size matches .6:1.00 psi 1.50” 1.002

-10 size matches 1:1.00 psi 1.75” 1.250

-12 size matches 1:1.30 psi 2.00” 1.500

-17 size matches 1:1.76 psi 2.25” 1.750

-22 size matches 1:2.20 psi 2.75” 2.000

 

 

Bill Coleman

Erie PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 8:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Stus-List Hydraulic Backstay - Best Fluid?

 

Listers,

 

What is the best fluid to use in my Navtec Hydraulic Backstay? 

 

I see lots of chatter about viscosity and moisture inhibitors, but no real 
definitive answer. 

 

Anyone have a recommendation? 

All the best, 

 

Edd





———-

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”

C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

www.StarshipSailing.com

———-

914.774.9767   | Mobile

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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic Backstay - Best Fluid?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

 This is from the Navtec/Lewmar website:

What kind of oil do I need for my Integral backstay adjuster, hydraulic
panel, or hydraulic cylinder?

Hydraulic oils used with Navtec equipment should be premium petroleum
based, antiwear oils that have anti-foam and anticorrosion additives. They
should have the following minimum properties: Viscosity grade of ISO 32,
viscosity index of 95, and a pour point of -10 degrees F (-20 degrees C).
Navtec recommends the following oils: Shell Tellus T15, Mobil DTE 11M,
Texaco Rando HD215 and Royal Purple Syndraulic 15.

I'm an Amsoil fan so I called the tech support guy and gave them the
specs.  IIRC, They found that their synthetic power steering fluid was the
one that matched.  Right, wrong, or otherwise, I've had no problem since.


Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD



On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 20:00 Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Listers,
>
> What is the best fluid to use in my Navtec Hydraulic Backstay?
>
> I see lots of chatter about viscosity and moisture inhibitors, but no real
> definitive answer.
>
> Anyone have a recommendation?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
> ———-
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
> C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> www.StarshipSailing.com
> ———-
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ———-
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic Backstay - Best Fluid?

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Mine had transmission fluid originally, but the hydraulic ram service company 
advised me to switch it out and use a non-detergent 10 weight oil.  Works 
great, thirteen years now.  Bought it at NAPA.  I would use that again.

Chuck Scheaffer Resolute, 1989 C&C 34R



> On March 1, 2020 at 7:59 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> What is the best fluid to use in my Navtec Hydraulic Backstay? 
> 
> I see lots of chatter about viscosity and moisture inhibitors, but no 
> real definitive answer. 
> 
> Anyone have a recommendation? 
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
> ———-
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
> C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> www.StarshipSailing.com
> ———-
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ———-
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

If a local hydraulic shop can't fix it, I second the recommendation for Lew
Townsend in Seattle.

When you get it back, get a rubber washer for $1 or so at a big box or
hardware store and slide it down the shaft to rest on top of the cylinder.
It will protect the upper seal from UV, a cmmon failure mode.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, May 14, 2019, 5:38 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> It appears that the backstay adjuster is in need of a rebuild. Although
> the gauge reads to 2500psi, it struggles to reach 500, and slowly bleeds
> down. It is marked Hydra Tech Marine, Vancouver, BC. (which appears to be
> out of business), and looks like this:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DmEJJG4KKXt66bxr5
>
> Is this something I can rebuild myself by obtaining seals and o-rings, or
> should take it to a hydraulic shop?
>
> Also, what range should it be set to on a '74 35, with twin
> forestays/furlers?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Thanks, Charles. I will call a local hydraulic shop and see what they say.
It looks like the design is fail safe, and it maintains reasonable tension
even with the gauge at 0, if the adjusting threads are tightened all the
way. A long turnbuckle or a pulley system will probably cost me more than a
cheap rebuild, so I'll give it a try.

Mine has the ram at the top and pump with gauge at the bottom, so an
integral design I believe. I assume this is original, but I'm not sure.
Anyone else have a HydraTech unit like this?

Shawn
'74 C&C 35, #270 "Callisto"

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:43 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
wrote:

> Shawn,
>
> FWIW, I got a quote from a Navtec certified rigger to rebuild my Navtec
> -10 for $800.  Instead I took the ram and the remote pump to a local
> hydraulic shop and they cleaned it, replaced the O-rings and bench tested
> it to 4000# for 30 minutes.   They charged me $30 and I tipped them $20,
> nine years ago.  Still tight, no drips.
>
>
> You have several other options; get a new ram unit w integral pump,
> replace with a cascade pulley system like many one designs.
>
>
> Chuck S
>
>
> On May 14, 2019 at 8:06 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Brad. I forgot to mention that I'm in Victoria, BC, so I'd prefer
> to find someone local. I read over this article, and think I will inspect
> the rod to check for any damage first, as it sounds like that will
> necessitate a replacement vs. just new seals. With the number of C&Cs in
> the area, I suspect a local shop will be able to do it.
>
> http://rigworks.com/caring-for-your-hydraulic-backstay-adjuster/
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:57 PM Brad Crawford < bcrawf7...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> Lew Townsend in Seattle might be able to repair that for you.  He did a
> great job on our Navtec Pump, not sure if he does Hydra Tech?
>
>
>
> His number is 206.498.7282
>
>
>
> Good Luck,
>
>
>
> Brad Crawford
>
> CnC 36 - Seattle
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Shawn
> Wright via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:38 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Shawn Wright
> *Subject:* Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> It appears that the backstay adjuster is in need of a rebuild. Although
> the gauge reads to 2500psi, it struggles to reach 500, and slowly bleeds
> down. It is marked Hydra Tech Marine, Vancouver, BC. (which appears to be
> out of business), and looks like this:
>
>
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DmEJJG4KKXt66bxr5
>
>
>
> Is this something I can rebuild myself by obtaining seals and o-rings, or
> should take it to a hydraulic shop?
>
>
>
> Also, what range should it be set to on a '74 35, with twin
> forestays/furlers?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Shawn Wright
>
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?

[David Risch via CnC-List]

This.  Not only did I pay $500 once to a Natvtec guy for a rebuild I was back 
within a year for a re-do.   For which he charged me again.   Hydro shop all 
the way.  Its not rocket science.

From: CnC-List  on behalf of CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:43:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER
Subject: Re: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?


Shawn,

FWIW, I got a quote from a Navtec certified rigger to rebuild my Navtec -10 for 
$800.  Instead I took the ram and the remote pump to a local hydraulic shop and 
they cleaned it, replaced the O-rings and bench tested it to 4000# for 30 
minutes.   They charged me $30 and I tipped them $20, nine years ago.  Still 
tight, no drips.


You have several other options; get a new ram unit w integral pump, replace 
with a cascade pulley system like many one designs.


Chuck S


On May 14, 2019 at 8:06 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List  
wrote:

Thanks, Brad. I forgot to mention that I'm in Victoria, BC, so I'd prefer to 
find someone local. I read over this article, and think I will inspect the rod 
to check for any damage first, as it sounds like that will necessitate a 
replacement vs. just new seals. With the number of C&Cs in the area, I suspect 
a local shop will be able to do it.

http://rigworks.com/caring-for-your-hydraulic-backstay-adjuster/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frigworks.com%2Fcaring-for-your-hydraulic-backstay-adjuster%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbc45427edf244c977fe808d6d8f00835%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636934922767829002&sdata=bEbdNhNEtevnp5LsX5%2FgkhW86AFQxtK2hADSLmgLR44%3D&reserved=0>


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:57 PM Brad Crawford < 
bcrawf7...@comcast.net<mailto:bcrawf7...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Lew Townsend in Seattle might be able to repair that for you.  He did a great 
job on our Navtec Pump, not sure if he does Hydra Tech?



His number is 206.498.7282



Good Luck,



Brad Crawford

CnC 36 - Seattle



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Behalf Of Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?



Hello all,



It appears that the backstay adjuster is in need of a rebuild. Although the 
gauge reads to 2500psi, it struggles to reach 500, and slowly bleeds down. It 
is marked Hydra Tech Marine, Vancouver, BC. (which appears to be out of 
business), and looks like this:



https://photos.app.goo.gl/DmEJJG4KKXt66bxr5<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphotos.app.goo.gl%2FDmEJJG4KKXt66bxr5&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbc45427edf244c977fe808d6d8f00835%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636934922767839007&sdata=v9lD4r8a7jeVH2MLZxXqj4tzKXOd6CMBLQhAPCK1%2FFU%3D&reserved=0>



Is this something I can rebuild myself by obtaining seals and o-rings, or 
should take it to a hydraulic shop?



Also, what range should it be set to on a '74 35, with twin forestays/furlers?



Thanks.



--

Shawn Wright

shawngwri...@gmail.com<mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>


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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Shawn,

FWIW, I got a quote from a Navtec certified rigger to rebuild my Navtec -10 for 
$800.  Instead I took the ram and the remote pump to a local hydraulic shop and 
they cleaned it, replaced the O-rings and bench tested it to 4000# for 30 
minutes.   They charged me $30 and I tipped them $20, nine years ago.  Still 
tight, no drips.


You have several other options; get a new ram unit w integral pump, replace 
with a cascade pulley system like many one designs.  


Chuck S


> On May 14, 2019 at 8:06 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Brad. I forgot to mention that I'm in Victoria, BC, so I'd prefer 
> to find someone local. I read over this article, and think I will inspect the 
> rod to check for any damage first, as it sounds like that will necessitate a 
> replacement vs. just new seals. With the number of C&Cs in the area, I 
> suspect a local shop will be able to do it.
> 
> http://rigworks.com/caring-for-your-hydraulic-backstay-adjuster/
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:57 PM Brad Crawford < bcrawf7...@comcast.net 
> mailto:bcrawf7...@comcast.net > wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > Lew Townsend in Seattle might be able to repair that for you.  He 
> > did a great job on our Navtec Pump, not sure if he does Hydra Tech?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > His number is 206.498.7282
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Good Luck,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Brad Crawford
> > 
> > CnC 36 - Seattle
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Shawn Wright via 
> > CnC-List
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:38 PM
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: Shawn Wright
> > Subject: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > It appears that the backstay adjuster is in need of a rebuild. 
> > Although the gauge reads to 2500psi, it struggles to reach 500, and slowly 
> > bleeds down. It is marked Hydra Tech Marine, Vancouver, BC. (which appears 
> > to be out of business), and looks like this:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/DmEJJG4KKXt66bxr5
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Is this something I can rebuild myself by obtaining seals and 
> > o-rings, or should take it to a hydraulic shop?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Also, what range should it be set to on a '74 35, with twin 
> > forestays/furlers?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Shawn Wright
> > 
> > shawngwri...@gmail.com mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com
> > 
> > > 
> 
> --
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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Thanks, Brad. I forgot to mention that I'm in Victoria, BC, so I'd prefer
to find someone local. I read over this article, and think I will inspect
the rod to check for any damage first, as it sounds like that will
necessitate a replacement vs. just new seals. With the number of C&Cs in
the area, I suspect a local shop will be able to do it.

http://rigworks.com/caring-for-your-hydraulic-backstay-adjuster/


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:57 PM Brad Crawford 
wrote:

> Lew Townsend in Seattle might be able to repair that for you.  He did a
> great job on our Navtec Pump, not sure if he does Hydra Tech?
>
>
>
> His number is 206.498.7282
>
>
>
> Good Luck,
>
>
>
> Brad Crawford
>
> CnC 36 - Seattle
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Shawn
> Wright via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:38 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Shawn Wright
> *Subject:* Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> It appears that the backstay adjuster is in need of a rebuild. Although
> the gauge reads to 2500psi, it struggles to reach 500, and slowly bleeds
> down. It is marked Hydra Tech Marine, Vancouver, BC. (which appears to be
> out of business), and looks like this:
>
>
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DmEJJG4KKXt66bxr5
>
>
>
> Is this something I can rebuild myself by obtaining seals and o-rings, or
> should take it to a hydraulic shop?
>
>
>
> Also, what range should it be set to on a '74 35, with twin
> forestays/furlers?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Shawn Wright
>
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>


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Re: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?

[Brad Crawford via CnC-List]

Lew Townsend in Seattle might be able to repair that for you.  He did a great 
job on our Navtec Pump, not sure if he does Hydra Tech?

 

His number is 206.498.7282

 

Good Luck,

 

Brad Crawford

CnC 36 - Seattle

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Wright 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Stus-List Hydraulic backstay adjuster rebuild?

 

Hello all,

 

It appears that the backstay adjuster is in need of a rebuild. Although the 
gauge reads to 2500psi, it struggles to reach 500, and slowly bleeds down. It 
is marked Hydra Tech Marine, Vancouver, BC. (which appears to be out of 
business), and looks like this:

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DmEJJG4KKXt66bxr5

 

Is this something I can rebuild myself by obtaining seals and o-rings, or 
should take it to a hydraulic shop?

 

Also, what range should it be set to on a '74 35, with twin forestays/furlers?

 

Thanks.


 

-- 

Shawn Wright

shawngwri...@gmail.com

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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[G Collins via CnC-List]

Integrated Hydraulic & Industrial Services, at 24 Simmonds Drive in Burnside 
(very close to Burnside Fiberglass).

They did it twice - first time was good for a year, started to leak at the end 
of the season because they didn't replace all the seals - just the ones they 
thought looked bad.  2nd time they changed them all.  So make them change 'em 
all...  they will be the same age.

Jazz tonight - Pat Healy and Luke Arsenault.  They are very good, but not as 
good as Jeff's nephew who performed for us last week.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2018-03-22 1:06 PM, jhnelson24 via CnC-List wrote:
Dan,
  I think Graham had his done locally here in Halifax. If he doesn't respond to 
the list you might try Thursday night's at compass distillers. He has a jazz 
night there and I believe usually attends.



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Cc: Daniel Cormier <mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

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> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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[jhnelson24 via CnC-List]

Dan,  I think Graham had his done locally here in Halifax. If he doesn't 
respond to the list you might try Thursday night's at compass distillers. He 
has a jazz night there and I believe usually attends.


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 Date: 2018-03-22  10:18  (GMT-04:00) To: 
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Stus-List hydraulic backstay 
Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Lew Townsend did my hydraulics.  He is very professional, and he does a lot
more than just replacing parts.  I am sure you will not find better quality
work from anyone than you will get from him.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> You could source new seals on McMaster-Carr which will probably be the
> cheapest route.
>
> A hydraulic shop will probably have the seals on hand and be able to
> install at their hourly rate - second cheapest.
>
> When I sent my Navtec cylinders (2) to Lew Townsend (+1 206-498-7282) at
> Sound Rigging in Seattle WA, I didn't exactly expect much more than a
> typical hydraulic shop with the exception that it would be done with
> authentic Navtec parts.  When he called to tell me that one of my pistons
> was bent (out of true) and that he had straightened it, I was surprised.
> When he further relayed that he was in the process of polishing the
> pistons, I was more shocked.  And then he described having performed a 24
> hour pressure drop test.  These interactions reassured me that while he may
> not have been the cheapest he was certainly very high quality and high
> value.
>
> As a comparison, when I bought the boat, back in May of 2012, the PO was
> dismayed by the small ring of oil accumulating around the pistons.  In
> frustration he stated that he had just had the cylinders rebuilt at a local
> hydraulic shop.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 11:19 PM Dan via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid
>> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs
>> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked
>> out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures
>> as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking
>> is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my
>> hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>> Breakaweigh
>> C&C44
>> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You could source new seals on McMaster-Carr which will probably be the
cheapest route.

A hydraulic shop will probably have the seals on hand and be able to
install at their hourly rate - second cheapest.

When I sent my Navtec cylinders (2) to Lew Townsend (+1 206-498-7282) at
Sound Rigging in Seattle WA, I didn't exactly expect much more than a
typical hydraulic shop with the exception that it would be done with
authentic Navtec parts.  When he called to tell me that one of my pistons
was bent (out of true) and that he had straightened it, I was surprised.
When he further relayed that he was in the process of polishing the
pistons, I was more shocked.  And then he described having performed a 24
hour pressure drop test.  These interactions reassured me that while he may
not have been the cheapest he was certainly very high quality and high
value.

As a comparison, when I bought the boat, back in May of 2012, the PO was
dismayed by the small ring of oil accumulating around the pistons.  In
frustration he stated that he had just had the cylinders rebuilt at a local
hydraulic shop.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Wed, Mar 21, 2018, 11:19 PM Dan via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked
> out and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures
> as low as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking
> is normal with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my
> hydraulics exposed to the harsh cold environment?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dan- I have Sailtec backstay that is completely self contained. 
 The factory told me to bring it inside in the winter and store it vertically. 
Something to consider once yours is repaired. 



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On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:21 AM -0500, "Daniel Cormier via CnC-List" 
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Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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[Daniel Cormier via CnC-List]

Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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[David via CnC-List]

Bring it a hydraulic shop that fixes trucks.  Much much cheaper than a navico 
shop

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Dan via CnC-List 

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:18:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan
Subject: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

Hey everyone,
I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low as 
-19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal with 
a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics exposed to 
the harsh cold environment?

Thanks,

Dan
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Dan,

 

That sounds pretty normal for a leaky seal to not hold pressure.  It’s odd that 
you leaked so much fluid though.  The backstay is the highest part of the 
system.  I would think that the pressure would eventually leak down to zero and 
then stop leaking altogether.

 

I’ve had my seals replaced before.  Cheap and easy fix.  I’ve also noticed that 
if you keep the top seal covered, it lasts longer.  Some folks use a foam can 
holder for this, although it doesn’t look that great.  Keeping the seal out of 
the sun will keep it lasting longer.

 

Jake

 

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA



 

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dan via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 23:18
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan 
Subject: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

 

Hey everyone,

I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low as 
-19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal with 
a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics exposed to 
the harsh cold environment?

 

Thanks,

 

Dan

Breakaweigh

C&C44

Halifax, NS

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