Re: Stus-List Anchor question
If you weld a rollbar onto a Delta I think you are close to the newest anchors LOL. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09 PM To: Paul Baker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor question Damn I thought my Delta was new tech. Joel On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Paul Baker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Or a Manson Supreme (not made in China), or a Mantus - any of the new generation of anchors appear to be an improvement over delta/cqr/danforth etc. On 14-11-11 02:57 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: Adding my 2 cents late: I have a 1990 CC 34R, (a 5.5 ton 36 footer) and a 22# Delta sets quickly with the 18 ft of chain, which is half a boatlength. The system holds fine up to about 25 knots of wind. Above that she sometimes dragged, especially if the wind is gusty and shifting constantly. When that happens, I add a 20# kellet or a second anchor. I pull the anchor by hand so will keep the system as light as possible. We anchor in 10 to 25 ft of water and the research says adding more chain (more than 2/3rds scope) does not improve holding. I did a little research after this thread and I am sold on buying a Rocna 15, which should work better for me. More money than I wanted to spend, but good insurance for future cruises. Thanks guys. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); To: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','muckl...@gmail.com');, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:05:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor question Mark, If all you want is a lunch hook the smaller one is fine for your boat. If you plan to do extended cruising where you could be caught in an anchorage (as opposed to a marina) in a storm then I would re-evaluate. I'm not doing extended cruising, so personally I would not upsize. (I have a 22 lb Delta and only 10 feet of chain. Yes, I need more chain.) Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar
Re: Stus-List Anchor question
Or a Manson Supreme (not made in China), or a Mantus - any of the new generation of anchors appear to be an improvement over delta/cqr/danforth etc. On 14-11-11 02:57 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: Adding my 2 cents late: I have a 1990 CC 34R, (a 5.5 ton 36 footer) and a 22# Delta sets quickly with the 18 ft of chain, which is half a boatlength. The system holds fine up to about 25 knots of wind. Above that she sometimes dragged, especially if the wind is gusty and shifting constantly. When that happens, I add a 20# kellet or a second anchor. I pull the anchor by hand so will keep the system as light as possible. We anchor in 10 to 25 ft of water and the research says adding more chain (more than 2/3rds scope) does not improve holding. I did a little research after this thread and I am sold on buying a Rocna 15, which should work better for me. More money than I wanted to spend, but good insurance for future cruises. Thanks guys. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:05:00 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Anchor question Mark, If all you want is a lunch hook the smaller one is fine for your boat. If you plan to do extended cruising where you could be caught in an anchorage (as opposed to a marina) in a storm then I would re-evaluate. I'm not doing extended cruising, so personally I would not upsize. (I have a 22 lb Delta and only 10 feet of chain. Yes, I need more chain.) Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List
Re: Stus-List Anchor question
Damn I thought my Delta was new tech. Joel On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Paul Baker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Or a Manson Supreme (not made in China), or a Mantus - any of the new generation of anchors appear to be an improvement over delta/cqr/danforth etc. On 14-11-11 02:57 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: Adding my 2 cents late: I have a 1990 CC 34R, (a 5.5 ton 36 footer) and a 22# Delta sets quickly with the 18 ft of chain, which is half a boatlength. The system holds fine up to about 25 knots of wind. Above that she sometimes dragged, especially if the wind is gusty and shifting constantly. When that happens, I add a 20# kellet or a second anchor. I pull the anchor by hand so will keep the system as light as possible. We anchor in 10 to 25 ft of water and the research says adding more chain (more than 2/3rds scope) does not improve holding. I did a little research after this thread and I am sold on buying a Rocna 15, which should work better for me. More money than I wanted to spend, but good insurance for future cruises. Thanks guys. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); *To: *Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','muckl...@gmail.com');, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:05:00 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Anchor question Mark, If all you want is a lunch hook the smaller one is fine for your boat. If you plan to do extended cruising where you could be caught in an anchorage (as opposed to a marina) in a storm then I would re-evaluate. I'm not doing extended cruising, so personally I would not upsize. (I have a 22 lb Delta and only 10 feet of chain. Yes, I need more chain.) Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page
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Josh - Well, my LF38 is actually only 37.6. Here's how I did it. Note that the windlass and mounting is over engineered. That's come in handy as I single hand, and pull up to anchor with the windlass and against the wind (against all recommendations) and have only stalled it once. That was when I discovered that I'd spent the night anchored on an enormous abandoned drift net that was laying on the bottom, and I pulled the whole net up along with the anchor. This stuff really happens. The real trick to pulling the boat up with the windlass is to run the windlass in short bursts, working with the chop or waves. Run the motor with the bow goes down, and let the sea pull the boat forward on the upstroke. I lube the bearings annually, but I use it a lot. http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/gtackle/windlass/index.htm Wal you wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Anchor question
Graham, We've probably been down this road before, but what does your anchor roller installation look like? I have the plain aluminium casting at the bow of my 35-3 still. Thanks, Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh I'll drop you some pics. I mounted mine below deck at the back of the anchor locker. Lewmar V2 windlass. I also modified the anchor locker lid to let the chain run into it. Very happy as it doesn't clutter up the foredeck with things that I would bash my toes on. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 5:56 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Anchor question
As to the anchor roller, mine is pretty basic. A stainless weldment bolted to the cast aluminum cap. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UGg78HDTDU8/VF0Ni1ly3ZI/ClI/eyOHjLZTy7s/w1200-h822-no/anchor%2Band%2Broller.jpg Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 7 November 2014 10:17, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: I mounted a shelf in the anchor locker because I thought the back of the locker was too flimsy on my boat to take the strain and there was a gap between it and the plywood bulkhead. I glassed some knees to the hull right where the balsa tapers and bolted the shelf to the knees. The shape of the hull helps combat the strain. I put in a Lewmar V700, which handles the 35# Delta and 100 feet of 1/4 HT chain (plus 300' of 1/2 nylon 3-strand) quite nicely. The picture shows the original configuration. I since installed a Lewmar wired remote and a Starboard beater board between the locker and the forestay to take the whacking of the chain. http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0957.jpg I have the whole thing documented in pictures if anyone is interested. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 7 November 2014 08:11, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Graham, We've probably been down this road before, but what does your anchor roller installation look like? I have the plain aluminium casting at the bow of my 35-3 still. Thanks, Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh I'll drop you some pics. I mounted mine below deck at the back of the anchor locker. Lewmar V2 windlass. I also modified the anchor locker lid to let the chain run into it. Very happy as it doesn't clutter up the foredeck with things that I would bash my toes on. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 5:56 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:
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I mounted a shelf in the anchor locker because I thought the back of the locker was too flimsy on my boat to take the strain and there was a gap between it and the plywood bulkhead. I glassed some knees to the hull right where the balsa tapers and bolted the shelf to the knees. The shape of the hull helps combat the strain. I put in a Lewmar V700, which handles the 35# Delta and 100 feet of 1/4 HT chain (plus 300' of 1/2 nylon 3-strand) quite nicely. The picture shows the original configuration. I since installed a Lewmar wired remote and a Starboard beater board between the locker and the forestay to take the whacking of the chain. http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0957.jpg I have the whole thing documented in pictures if anyone is interested. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 7 November 2014 08:11, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Graham, We've probably been down this road before, but what does your anchor roller installation look like? I have the plain aluminium casting at the bow of my 35-3 still. Thanks, Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh I'll drop you some pics. I mounted mine below deck at the back of the anchor locker. Lewmar V2 windlass. I also modified the anchor locker lid to let the chain run into it. Very happy as it doesn't clutter up the foredeck with things that I would bash my toes on. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 5:56 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Tim I bolted a Garhauer roller on the front, over the casting. Two bolts go into the casting where I drilled and tapped holes, and two further aft go thru the deck to a big backing plate. It is supported on a Starboard wedge. Looks OK, and a lot cheaper than getting a custom fit. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-07 12:11 PM, Tim Goodyear wrote: Graham, We've probably been down this road before, but what does your anchor roller installation look like? I have the plain aluminium casting at the bow of my 35-3 still. Thanks, Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh I'll drop you some pics. I mounted mine below deck at the back of the anchor locker. Lewmar V2 windlass. I also modified the anchor locker lid to let the chain run into it. Very happy as it doesn't clutter up the foredeck with things that I would bash my toes on. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 5:56 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go
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Hey Josh When we brought our Alera out from lake Ontario, as part of the fresh to salt water conversion and re commissioning we got a new anchor and had the yard install a windlass. I had to replace all of the major heavy gauge 12V wiire and it seems like a good time to get it done. We went with a Quick Genius 1000 windless and a Rocna 20KG anchor w 100' of 5/16 high test chain and 200' three strand rode.and real anchor. In hindsight, since most of our anchoring has been in 25'-40' locations, I might have opted for another 50' of chain. But this seems to be working well for us. We went from hardly anchoring at all to spending about 50% of our time out on the hook. I'm heading down to the boat tomorrow. Let me know if you want some pics...we 37+ folks have to stick together!!! Tom B At 03:33 PM 11/6/2014, you wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:56:49 -0500 From: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com, Graham Collins cnclistforw...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor question Message-ID: CA+zaCRC8SJeBPpjEEBCHwBxCGW+eUXRwXGmah1nkP8Ur-fr7=g...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Mark, Buy a copy of Earl Hinz’s book on anchoring. It is one of the best I have read on the art and science of anchoring. The best anchor varies with how and where you will be using it and how well it is set. I keep a copy of that book on board except when racing locally. On Calypso, when cruising or voyaging I carry an oversized CQR, 90’ of chain, and 250’ of rode. (We do have a windlass.) The secondary anchor is a Danforth style, properly sized, steel construction with less chain and rode. When racing locally I have the Danforth along with a second small Danforth as the back-up. In my experience, the Danforth works better in loose sand and mud than the CQR. In most other PNW anchoring conditions the CQR has held well however the 90’ of chain and being oversized improves holding performance. On past boats I have also used a Fortress aluminum anchor (similar to a Danforth design) and on OPB (other peoples boats) used a Bruce style. If I was “in the market” for a new anchor and rode and did not have a windlass I would certainly consider the newer designs with a close eye to the anchoring condition where I expected to use it. Read about improving “light” anchor performance with a “kellet” or similar extra weight. Adding the extra weight may allow you to keep the anchor and rode weight down to the non-windlass range but improve the anchor holding significantly. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:08 AM To: CC list Subject: Stus-List Anchor question Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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My Bruce 30# has worked well for my 37+ in the Chesapeake Bay. If I wanted to improve my anchoring performance I agree with Martin's thoughts of a kellet. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 10:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I have never had any issues with my Danforth but it is pretty sandy / mucky around here. In fact the last time I used it a front came through Newport and blew real hard all night long. Didn't move at all. I was more worried about my ground tackle than dragging the anchor. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:26 PM To: M Bod; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor question My Bruce 30# has worked well for my 37+ in the Chesapeake Bay. If I wanted to improve my anchoring performance I agree with Martin's thoughts of a kellet. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 10:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.ph p One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Do you know a good chiropractor? :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Mark, If all you want is a lunch hook the smaller one is fine for your boat. If you plan to do extended cruising where you could be caught in an anchorage (as opposed to a marina) in a storm then I would re-evaluate. I'm not doing extended cruising, so personally I would not upsize. (I have a 22 lb Delta and only 10 feet of chain. Yes, I need more chain.) Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Josh, I’ve looked in to this for my 37+. The best solution I’ve found is to build a shelf inside your anchor locker that would have a horizontal windlass mounted on it. I hear Lewmar’s Pro-Series works well (http://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8329type=110channel=1) It looks like Dave on Ronin (on this list) is doing something similar on his CC 37 — See: http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/2014/10/anchor-windlass-shelf.html. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Nov 6, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Josh and Edd, Yes, that’s is exactly what I have done. Built a reinforced shelf that allows the windlass to be mounted and the hatch closed over top when not in use. I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that my design was based on taking items from approaches that several other members of this list sent me as examples of adding anchoring gear on their boats. Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and it’s going to be at least a year before I get to actually use the windlass... Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Nov 6, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Josh, I’ve looked in to this for my 37+. The best solution I’ve found is to build a shelf inside your anchor locker that would have a horizontal windlass mounted on it. I hear Lewmar’s Pro-Series works well (http://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8329type=110channel=1 http://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8329type=110channel=1) It looks like Dave on Ronin (on this list) is doing something similar on his CC 37 — See: http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/2014/10/anchor-windlass-shelf.html http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/2014/10/anchor-windlass-shelf.html. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Nov 6, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page
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Thanks Dave. Looks great but for me for me I think hauling the anchor by hand is going to be less work...for me...right now. Josh On Nov 6, 2014 5:42 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Josh and Edd, Yes, that's is exactly what I have done. Built a reinforced shelf that allows the windlass to be mounted and the hatch closed over top when not in use. I would be remiss if I didn't mention that my design was based on taking items from approaches that several other members of this list sent me as examples of adding anchoring gear on their boats. Of course, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and it's going to be at least a year before I get to actually use the windlass... Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin's Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Nov 6, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Josh, I've looked in to this for my 37+. The best solution I've found is to build a shelf inside your anchor locker that would have a horizontal windlass mounted on it. I hear Lewmar's Pro-Series works well ( http://www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8329type=110channel=1) It looks like Dave on Ronin (on this list) is doing something similar on his CC 37 -- See: http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/2014/10/anchor-windlass-shelf.html. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Nov 6, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:
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Hi Josh I'll drop you some pics. I mounted mine below deck at the back of the anchor locker. Lewmar V2 windlass. I also modified the anchor locker lid to let the chain run into it. Very happy as it doesn't clutter up the foredeck with things that I would bash my toes on. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 5:56 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I wouldn't mind to see your pics if you don't mind. I have a 34+ and am considering how to install a windlass - would be nice to have it below deck for the sake of safety and possibly less spray/corrosion, etc. Thanks From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham Collins via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:20 PM To: Josh Muckley; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor question Hi Josh I'll drop you some pics. I mounted mine below deck at the back of the anchor locker. Lewmar V2 windlass. I also modified the anchor locker lid to let the chain run into it. Very happy as it doesn't clutter up the foredeck with things that I would bash my toes on. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 5:56 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.ph p One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
