Stus-List C&C 37 centerboard

[Stephen deForest via CnC-List]

Good day everyone. I purchased a 1983 37 with a centerboard last November and I 
have found out that the centerboard pennant has broken, probably the original 
cable. Has anyone replaced theirs? If so has anyone gone with a super strength 
rope of similar size instead of a new cable? Obviously the boat has to be 
lifted to work on the board and what are people using to fasten to the pin on 
the board? One last question, is there a trick to getting the new line or cable 
fed from deck level to the board? 

Thanks in advance

Steve deForest
Saint John NB
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Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a
new, but related, one.

I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB.
(The "P" stands for Project Boat).

One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended partially
(I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that barnacles
prevented a full extension.

1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)

Thanks in advance.
--Bob M
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 centerboard

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

I have a 33-II with a centreboard whose pendant broke a couple of years ago. I 
had Rob From South Shore yachts make and install the new one. They had an eye 
fitting roll swagged on the lower end, which the fed down and attached with a 
pin to the board, then hand swagged 2 fittings to make the eye on the deck end.

When hauled the board swung just far enough forward to allow you to reach up 
and remove and replace the pin. Have a new pin ready! Ours was just about worse 
thru.

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 8:59 AM -0700, "Stephen deForest via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Good day everyone. I purchased a 1983 37 with a centerboard last November and I 
have found out that the centerboard pennant has broken, probably the original 
cable. Has anyone replaced theirs? If so has anyone gone with a super strength 
rope of similar size instead of a new cable? Obviously the boat has to be 
lifted to work on the board and what are people using to fasten to the pin on 
the board? One last question, is there a trick to getting the new line or cable 
fed from deck level to the board?

Thanks in advance

Steve deForest
Saint John NB
sdefor...@bellaliant.net
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Donald Sebastian via CnC-List]

Bob,

I have been working on writing down how I ended up fixing my centerboard issue. 
  I had to get get creative and was actually able to do everything in the water.

If I don’t respond to  your questions later, shoot me an  email later in the 
week when i will have a moment to think.

Donald




> On Oct 10, 2017, at 10:46 AM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a new, 
> but related, one.
> 
> I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB. 
> (The "P" stands for Project Boat).
> 
> One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
> When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended partially 
> (I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that barnacles 
> prevented a full extension. 
> 
> 1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
> 2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
> 3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> --Bob M
> ___
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> October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small 
> contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send contribution 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 Bob, I guess they're all project boats in one form or another!  But the good 
news is that there's lots of help available: there are several 37 owners on the 
list who can be if help to you: see also Dave Godin's site, 
http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/   Dave is a frequent contributor here and can 
tell you about every square inch of a 37!


Call Fred Street for anything electronic;


send photos!
 



Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB;  Ohio River, Mile 584.4




Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
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502-584-7255

 

 

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Cc: bobmor99 . 
Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:47 am
Subject: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard



I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a new, 
but related, one.


I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB. 
(The "P" stands for Project Boat).


One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended partially 
(I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that barnacles 
prevented a full extension. 


1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)


Thanks in advance.
--Bob M


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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

My 36XL/kcb is of a different vintage but I believe it was a slightly scaled 
down version of the C&C 37/40 of the late 80s/early 90s. Yours may be very 
different.
 
FWIW, the center boards of the above vintages were fiberglass filled with lead. 
On my 36, the board weighs about 1000 lbs.
 
My pin is ~ 4 inches in diameter SS--it will never need replaced although it 
may need to be removed to fully access the entire board. 

After I my pennant separated about 6 years ago (while the board was up of 
course!), the board swung on the pin and when it hit the trunk, the board
was torn apart and went to the bottom. AFAIK, the pin is accessed by removing 
the fiberglass on both its ends and 'driving' it out, which the yard had to do
to install a newly fabricated board. I consider this a big job--YMMV. The pin 
is supported by SS brackets bolted into the trunk on both sides, which are then 
glassed over
to match the centerboard foil.

If your board is weighted, be VERY CAREFUL working to free it up. If it is 
weighted, with or without a pennant, and it lets go suddenly, no part of a human
body will stop it. Even if the pennant is attached, the shock loading on it or 
the fittings of the board when it falls down to its normal sailing position, 
could
cause damage to the boat and potentially destroy the board or at least pull the 
fittings out.

I keep my clean mostly by using it (dropping the board down for upwind racing) 
and trying to have it down when the bottom is cleaned in the water before a 
race,
which is approximately monthly.

The cb boats of the above vintages (probably other manufacturers as well) 
require that the board be at least partially inside the trunk even when in the 
fully down position,
which is determined by the pennant stop on the C&Cs, usually on the cabin top.

If the pennant fails, the board will extend outside the trunk without any 
athwartship support and MUST NOT be sailed under these conditions since the 
board and pin may
be wrenched out of the boat. This would turn a bad day into a REALLY BAD day.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb 






 
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Cc: bobmor99 . 
Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:47 am
Subject: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard



I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a new, 
but related, one.


I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB. 
(The "P" stands for Project Boat).


One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended partially 
(I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that barnacles 
prevented a full extension. 


1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)


Thanks in advance.
--Bob M


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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

If this helps at all, this is a link to a sketch of the Centreboard
installation for the C&C 37/40+ CB:
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/2017/08/construction-drawings.html

Someone else on the list provided this to us all some time ago.

Ken H.

On 10 October 2017 at 13:34, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My 36XL/kcb is of a different vintage but I believe it was a slightly
> scaled down version of the C&C 37/40 of the late 80s/early 90s. Yours may
> be very different.
>
> FWIW, the center boards of the above vintages were fiberglass filled with
> lead. On my 36, the board weighs about 1000 lbs.
>
> My pin is ~ 4 inches in diameter SS--it will never need replaced although
> it may need to be removed to fully access the entire board.
>
> After I my pennant separated about 6 years ago (while the board was up of
> course!), the board swung on the pin and when it hit the trunk, the board
> was torn apart and went to the bottom. AFAIK, the pin is accessed by
> removing the fiberglass on both its ends and 'driving' it out, which the
> yard had to do
> to install a newly fabricated board. I consider this a big job--YMMV. The
> pin is supported by SS brackets bolted into the trunk on both sides, which
> are then glassed over
> to match the centerboard foil.
>
> If your board is weighted, be VERY CAREFUL working to free it up. If it is
> weighted, with or without a pennant, and it lets go suddenly, no part of a
> human
> body will stop it. Even if the pennant is attached, the shock loading
> on it or the fittings of the board when it falls down to its normal sailing
> position, could
> cause damage to the boat and potentially destroy the board or at least
> pull the fittings out.
>
> I keep my clean mostly by using it (dropping the board down for upwind
> racing) and trying to have it down when the bottom is cleaned in the water
> before a race,
> which is approximately monthly.
>
> The cb boats of the above vintages (probably other manufacturers as well)
> require that the board be at least partially inside the trunk even when in
> the fully down position,
> which is determined by the pennant stop on the C&Cs, usually on the cabin
> top.
>
> If the pennant fails, the board will extend outside the trunk without any
> athwartship support and MUST NOT be sailed under these conditions since the
> board and pin may
> be wrenched out of the boat. This would turn a bad day into a REALLY BAD
> day.
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> cenel...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bobmor99 . via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: bobmor99 . 
> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:47 am
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard
>
> I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a
> new, but related, one.
>
> I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB.
> (The "P" stands for Project Boat).
>
> One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
> When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended
> partially (I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that
> barnacles prevented a full extension.
>
> 1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
> 2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
> 3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --Bob M
> ___
>
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.
> October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small
> contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send
> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
> ___
>
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> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
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> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Sorry, you have to scroll down a bit on that page but it is there.

Here is another link to the same drawing:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7X4Y5iVFYAKR0lrdU9WUHREVGs/view

Ken H.

On 10 October 2017 at 16:28, Ken Heaton  wrote:

> If this helps at all, this is a link to a sketch of the Centreboard
> installation for the C&C 37/40+ CB: https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/2017/08/
> construction-drawings.html
>
> Someone else on the list provided this to us all some time ago.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 10 October 2017 at 13:34, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> My 36XL/kcb is of a different vintage but I believe it was a slightly
>> scaled down version of the C&C 37/40 of the late 80s/early 90s. Yours may
>> be very different.
>>
>> FWIW, the center boards of the above vintages were fiberglass filled with
>> lead. On my 36, the board weighs about 1000 lbs.
>>
>> My pin is ~ 4 inches in diameter SS--it will never need replaced although
>> it may need to be removed to fully access the entire board.
>>
>> After I my pennant separated about 6 years ago (while the board was up of
>> course!), the board swung on the pin and when it hit the trunk, the board
>> was torn apart and went to the bottom. AFAIK, the pin is accessed by
>> removing the fiberglass on both its ends and 'driving' it out, which the
>> yard had to do
>> to install a newly fabricated board. I consider this a big job--YMMV. The
>> pin is supported by SS brackets bolted into the trunk on both sides, which
>> are then glassed over
>> to match the centerboard foil.
>>
>> If your board is weighted, be VERY CAREFUL working to free it up. If it
>> is weighted, with or without a pennant, and it lets go suddenly, no part of
>> a human
>> body will stop it. Even if the pennant is attached, the shock loading
>> on it or the fittings of the board when it falls down to its normal sailing
>> position, could
>> cause damage to the boat and potentially destroy the board or at least
>> pull the fittings out.
>>
>> I keep my clean mostly by using it (dropping the board down for upwind
>> racing) and trying to have it down when the bottom is cleaned in the water
>> before a race,
>> which is approximately monthly.
>>
>> The cb boats of the above vintages (probably other manufacturers as well)
>> require that the board be at least partially inside the trunk even when in
>> the fully down position,
>> which is determined by the pennant stop on the C&Cs, usually on the cabin
>> top.
>>
>> If the pennant fails, the board will extend outside the trunk without any
>> athwartship support and MUST NOT be sailed under these conditions since the
>> board and pin may
>> be wrenched out of the boat. This would turn a bad day into a REALLY BAD
>> day.
>>
>> Charlie Nelson
>> Water Phantom
>> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> cenel...@aol.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bobmor99 . via CnC-List 
>> To: cnc-list 
>> Cc: bobmor99 . 
>> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:47 am
>> Subject: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard
>>
>> I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a
>> new, but related, one.
>>
>> I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB.
>> (The "P" stands for Project Boat).
>>
>> One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
>> When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended
>> partially (I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that
>> barnacles prevented a full extension.
>>
>> 1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
>> 2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
>> 3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --Bob M
>> ___
>>
>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up
>> again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a
>> small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send
>> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>
>> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>> ___
>>
>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up
>> again.  October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a
>> small contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send
>> contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>
>> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I know my number of posts have decreased lately, but I didn’t think I’d ever be 
relegated to “someone else”… sigh…. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>



> On Oct 10, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> If this helps at all, this is a link to a sketch of the Centreboard 
> installation for the C&C 37/40+ CB: 
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/2017/08/construction-drawings.html 
> <https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/2017/08/construction-drawings.html>
> 
> Someone else on the list provided this to us all some time ago.
> 
> Ken H.
> 
> On 10 October 2017 at 13:34, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> My 36XL/kcb is of a different vintage but I believe it was a slightly scaled 
> down version of the C&C 37/40 of the late 80s/early 90s. Yours may be very 
> different.
>  
> FWIW, the center boards of the above vintages were fiberglass filled with 
> lead. On my 36, the board weighs about 1000 lbs.
>  
> My pin is ~ 4 inches in diameter SS--it will never need replaced although it 
> may need to be removed to fully access the entire board.
>  
> After I my pennant separated about 6 years ago (while the board was up of 
> course!), the board swung on the pin and when it hit the trunk, the board
> was torn apart and went to the bottom. AFAIK, the pin is accessed by removing 
> the fiberglass on both its ends and 'driving' it out, which the yard had to do
> to install a newly fabricated board. I consider this a big job--YMMV. The pin 
> is supported by SS brackets bolted into the trunk on both sides, which are 
> then glassed over
> to match the centerboard foil.
>  
> If your board is weighted, be VERY CAREFUL working to free it up. If it is 
> weighted, with or without a pennant, and it lets go suddenly, no part of a 
> human
> body will stop it. Even if the pennant is attached, the shock loading on it 
> or the fittings of the board when it falls down to its normal sailing 
> position, could
> cause damage to the boat and potentially destroy the board or at least pull 
> the fittings out.
>  
> I keep my clean mostly by using it (dropping the board down for upwind 
> racing) and trying to have it down when the bottom is cleaned in the water 
> before a race,
> which is approximately monthly.
>  
> The cb boats of the above vintages (probably other manufacturers as well) 
> require that the board be at least partially inside the trunk even when in 
> the fully down position,
> which is determined by the pennant stop on the C&Cs, usually on the cabin top.
>  
> If the pennant fails, the board will extend outside the trunk without any 
> athwartship support and MUST NOT be sailed under these conditions since the 
> board and pin may
> be wrenched out of the boat. This would turn a bad day into a REALLY BAD day.
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com>
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: bobmor99 . via CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: bobmor99 . mailto:bobmo...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:47 am
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard
> 
> I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a new, 
> but related, one.
> 
> I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB. 
> (The "P" stands for Project Boat).
> 
> One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
> When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended partially 
> (I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that barnacles 
> prevented a full extension. 
> 
> 1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
> 2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
> 3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> --Bob M
> ___
> 
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. 
> October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small 
> contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution 
> --https://www.paypal.me/stumurray <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray>
> 
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
> 
> ___
> 
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  
> October 

Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Hi Bob

Here are a few pictures of my board.  Approx weight is 300 - 400 lbs.

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B1YsbvO03cClZkhpejlvbFNIUTQ

Any questions give me a shout.

Mike
PERSUASION
C&C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Oct 10, 2017, at 10:46 AM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a new, 
> but related, one.
> 
> I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB. 
> (The "P" stands for Project Boat).
> 
> One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
> When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended partially 
> (I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that barnacles 
> prevented a full extension. 
> 
> 1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
> 2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
> 3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> --Bob M
> ___
> 
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  
> October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small 
> contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send contribution 
> --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Sorry Edd, I thought it may have been you who posted sketch that but I
wasn't positive.  Don't worry, we still hold you in high esteem, and you
are still our favourite Trekkie.

;-)

Ken H.

On 10 October 2017 at 16:35, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I know my number of posts have decreased lately, but I didn’t think I’d
> ever be relegated to “someone else”… sigh….
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If this helps at all, this is a link to a sketch of the Centreboard
> installation for the C&C 37/40+ CB: https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/2017/08/
> construction-drawings.html
>
> Someone else on the list provided this to us all some time ago.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 10 October 2017 at 13:34, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> My 36XL/kcb is of a different vintage but I believe it was a slightly
>> scaled down version of the C&C 37/40 of the late 80s/early 90s. Yours may
>> be very different.
>>
>> FWIW, the center boards of the above vintages were fiberglass filled with
>> lead. On my 36, the board weighs about 1000 lbs.
>>
>> My pin is ~ 4 inches in diameter SS--it will never need replaced although
>> it may need to be removed to fully access the entire board.
>>
>> After I my pennant separated about 6 years ago (while the board was up of
>> course!), the board swung on the pin and when it hit the trunk, the board
>> was torn apart and went to the bottom. AFAIK, the pin is accessed by
>> removing the fiberglass on both its ends and 'driving' it out, which the
>> yard had to do
>> to install a newly fabricated board. I consider this a big job--YMMV. The
>> pin is supported by SS brackets bolted into the trunk on both sides, which
>> are then glassed over
>> to match the centerboard foil.
>>
>> If your board is weighted, be VERY CAREFUL working to free it up. If it
>> is weighted, with or without a pennant, and it lets go suddenly, no part of
>> a human
>> body will stop it. Even if the pennant is attached, the shock loading
>> on it or the fittings of the board when it falls down to its normal sailing
>> position, could
>> cause damage to the boat and potentially destroy the board or at least
>> pull the fittings out.
>>
>> I keep my clean mostly by using it (dropping the board down for upwind
>> racing) and trying to have it down when the bottom is cleaned in the water
>> before a race,
>> which is approximately monthly.
>>
>> The cb boats of the above vintages (probably other manufacturers as well)
>> require that the board be at least partially inside the trunk even when in
>> the fully down position,
>> which is determined by the pennant stop on the C&Cs, usually on the cabin
>> top.
>>
>> If the pennant fails, the board will extend outside the trunk without any
>> athwartship support and MUST NOT be sailed under these conditions since the
>> board and pin may
>> be wrenched out of the boat. This would turn a bad day into a REALLY BAD
>> day.
>>
>> Charlie Nelson
>> Water Phantom
>> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> cenel...@aol.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bobmor99 . via CnC-List 
>> To: cnc-list 
>> Cc: bobmor99 . 
>> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:47 am
>> Subject: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard
>>
>> I've read Donald Sebastian's earlier thread and hope it's OK to start a
>> new, but related, one.
>>
>> I'm looking at a 1983 C&C 37-P K/CB.
>> (The "P" stands for Project Boat).
>>
>> One of the issues is that the centerboard pennant is likely unattached.
>> When the boat was hauled ~5 months ago, the centerboard descended
>> partially (I'm told). This makes me think the pin is in place and that
>> barnacles prevented a full extension.
>>
>> 1) Is the centerboard fiberglass? Is it heavy?
>> 2) If pin replacement is needed is that a big job?
>> 3) How are the centerboard and trunk kept clean? Floss?  :-)
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --Bob M
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Um…. I think Ken may have meant “Trekker”…   :^)

From Wikipedia:

> There is considerable disagreement among Star Trek fans over whether to use 
> the term Trekkie or Trekker. Some say that Trekkie is "frequently 
> depreciative", thus, "not an acceptable term to serious fans", who prefer 
> Trekker.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Oct 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Don't worry, we still hold you in high esteem, and you are still our 
> favourite Trekkie.

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[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

As long as he lives long and prospers, I think he’s ok with it..
Chuck G.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Um…. I think Ken may have meant “Trekker”…   :^)
> 
> From Wikipedia:
> 
>> There is considerable disagreement among Star Trek fans over whether to use 
>> the term Trekkie or Trekker. Some say that Trekkie is "frequently 
>> depreciative", thus, "not an acceptable term to serious fans", who prefer 
>> Trekker.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't worry, we still hold you in high esteem, and you are still our 
>> favourite Trekkie.
> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

Thank you all (y'all) for all the info and advice.
--Bob M

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> As long as he lives long and prospers, I think he’s ok with it..
> Chuck G.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Um…. I *think* Ken may have meant “Trekker”…   :^)
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> There is considerable disagreement among Star Trek fans over whether to
> use the term Trekkie or Trekker. Some say that Trekkie is
> "frequently depreciative", thus, "not an acceptable term to serious fans",
> who prefer Trekker.
>
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Don't worry, we still hold you in high esteem, and you are still our
> favourite Trekkie.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

As I understand it, fans of the original series (Kirk, Spock) called themselves 
Trekkies throughout the 60’s, 70’s and most of the 80’s. When The Next 
Generation (Picard, Riker) gained steam, those fans called themselves Trekkies 
as well, much to the dismay of the original series fans, who consider the more 
“pure”. 

So, the fans of the original show, the more pure version of Trek, started 
calling themselves Trekkers to distinguish themselves from the others. 

Forgive me for going off topic. Hauling the boat for the winter tomorrow and 
need to deal with the depression. 

Edd M Schillay (Trekker)
C&C 37+ | Starship Enterprise 
NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY


On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:

As long as he lives long and prospers, I think he’s ok with it..
Chuck G.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Um…. I think Ken may have meant “Trekker”…   :^)
> 
> From Wikipedia:
> 
>> There is considerable disagreement among Star Trek fans over whether to use 
>> the term Trekkie or Trekker. Some say that Trekkie is "frequently 
>> depreciative", thus, "not an acceptable term to serious fans", who prefer 
>> Trekker.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't worry, we still hold you in high esteem, and you are still our 
>> favourite Trekkie.
> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Well I just learned something new...

Ken H.

On 10 October 2017 at 21:47, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> As I understand it, fans of the original series (Kirk, Spock) called
> themselves Trekkies throughout the 60’s, 70’s and most of the 80’s. When
> The Next Generation (Picard, Riker) gained steam, those fans called
> themselves Trekkies as well, much to the dismay of the original series
> fans, who consider the more “pure”.
>
> So, the fans of the original show, the more pure version of Trek, started
> calling themselves Trekkers to distinguish themselves from the others.
>
> Forgive me for going off topic. Hauling the boat for the winter tomorrow
> and need to deal with the depression.
>
> Edd M Schillay (Trekker)
> C&C 37+ | Starship Enterprise
> NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> As long as he lives long and prospers, I think he’s ok with it..
> Chuck G.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Um…. I *think* Ken may have meant “Trekker”…   :^)
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> There is considerable disagreement among Star Trek fans over whether to
> use the term Trekkie or Trekker. Some say that Trekkie is
> "frequently depreciative", thus, "not an acceptable term to serious fans",
> who prefer Trekker.
>
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Don't worry, we still hold you in high esteem, and you are still our
> favourite Trekkie.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Trekkie, Trekker, it’s just another example of the Vulcan principal of infinite 
diversity in infinite combinations.

 

And you can avoid the winter depression by bringing Enterprise down to 
Washington. I’ll find you a slip close to Imzadi, you can come down and sail 
Enterprise on weekends (think high 60s on New Year’s Day), and it will  cost a 
lot less for the slip than for your haul out and winter storage.

 

Live Long and Prosper,

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:47 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

 

As I understand it, fans of the original series (Kirk, Spock) called themselves 
Trekkies throughout the 60’s, 70’s and most of the 80’s. When The Next 
Generation (Picard, Riker) gained steam, those fans called themselves Trekkies 
as well, much to the dismay of the original series fans, who consider the more 
“pure”. 

 

So, the fans of the original show, the more pure version of Trek, started 
calling themselves Trekkers to distinguish themselves from the others. 

 

Forgive me for going off topic. Hauling the boat for the winter tomorrow and 
need to deal with the depression. 

 

Edd M Schillay (Trekker)

C&C 37+ | Starship Enterprise 

NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY

 

 

On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

As long as he lives long and prospers, I think he’s ok with it..

Chuck G.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Um…. I think Ken may have meant “Trekker”…   :^)

 

>From Wikipedia:

 

There is considerable disagreement among Star Trek fans over whether to use the 
term Trekkie or Trekker. Some say that Trekkie is "frequently depreciative", 
thus, "not an acceptable term to serious fans", who prefer Trekker.

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Oct 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Don't worry, we still hold you in high esteem, and you are still our favourite 
Trekkie.

 

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Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I propose we all bring our boats to Rick's place. We can have biweekly C&C 
rendezvous all winter!
I'm seriously tempted. Let's discuss bringing Peregrine down for next year, 
Rick...if you can accommodate 7 1/2'.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 21:53, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Trekkie, Trekker, it’s just another example of the Vulcan principal of 
> infinite diversity in infinite combinations.
>  
> And you can avoid the winter depression by bringing Enterprise down to 
> Washington. I’ll find you a slip close to Imzadi, you can come down and sail 
> Enterprise on weekends (think high 60s on New Year’s Day), and it will  cost 
> a lot less for the slip than for your haul out and winter storage.
>  
> Live Long and Prosper,
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd 
> Schillay via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:47 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Edd Schillay 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37 Centerboard
>  
> As I understand it, fans of the original series (Kirk, Spock) called 
> themselves Trekkies throughout the 60’s, 70’s and most of the 80’s. When The 
> Next Generation (Picard, Riker) gained steam, those fans called themselves 
> Trekkies as well, much to the dismay of the original series fans, who 
> consider the more “pure”. 
>  
> So, the fans of the original show, the more pure version of Trek, started 
> calling themselves Trekkers to distinguish themselves from the others. 
>  
> Forgive me for going off topic. Hauling the boat for the winter tomorrow and 
> need to deal with the depression. 
>  
> Edd M Schillay (Trekker)
> C&C 37+ | Starship Enterprise 
> NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
>  
>  
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> As long as he lives long and prospers, I think he’s ok with it..
> Chuck G.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Um…. I think Ken may have meant “Trekker”…   :^)
>  
> From Wikipedia:
>  
> There is considerable disagreement among Star Trek fans over whether to use 
> the term Trekkie or Trekker. Some say that Trekkie is "frequently 
> depreciative", thus, "not an acceptable term to serious fans", who prefer 
> Trekker.
>  
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>  
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
> Don't worry, we still hold you in high esteem, and you are still our 
> favourite Trekkie.
>  
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Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Stu (and any Listers who may be interested),

You may want this document on the Photo Album site which may be of use 
to others — it’s a diagram of the C&C 37+ (and XL) centerboard. I’m told that 
the 34+ and XL centerboard models are very similar. 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/centerboard.pdf 

Also, a correction on the site:  Under C&C Owners Homepages, could you 
change my link to www.starshipsailing.com? Also, the Enterprise isn’t a 
37/40XL, but a 37+ (or 37/40+)

Lastly, I have some photos of the 37+ interior and “Dock Photos” if you 
want them. What is the best way to get these to you? 

Thanks for all you do. 



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Hi Edd, 
How are the keel bolts laid out? Are they on either side of the centerboard? 

And the pendent is fed thru a tube sealed to the cabin floor? 

How do you access the pulley that is placed below the waterline? 



Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, 
Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 11:56:25 AM 
Subject: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar) 

Stu (and any Listers who may be interested), 

You may want this document on the Photo Album site which may be of use to 
others — it’s a diagram of the C&C 37+ (and XL) centerboard. I’m told that the 
34+ and XL centerboard models are very similar. 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/centerboard.pdf 

Also, a correction on the site: Under C&C Owners Homepages, could you change my 
link to www.starshipsailing.com ? Also, the Enterprise isn’t a 37/40XL, but a 
37+ (or 37/40+) 

Lastly, I have some photos of the 37+ interior and “Dock Photos” if you want 
them. What is the best way to get these to you? 

Thanks for all you do. 



All the best, 

Edd 


Edd M. Schillay 
Starship Enterprise 
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B 
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 


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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Chuck,

Had a long talk with a yard owner about this who is familiar with the 
boat (he provided the diagram.) 

I’m not sure about those few keel bolts other than to think they don’t 
go down that far so the board can go up. 

As you can see, with the board down, the cable access is still deep 
inside the trunk — my divers were unable to get in there with any light/tools. 
I’m told the only way to replace the cable is to haul the boat at least 8 feet 
in the air, take apart the table so the steel tube and access to the pulley 
below the waterline can be reached and taken apart. Then snake the cable 
through and have someone try to reconnect inside the trunk (not a lot of space 
to work with). 

My club can’t get the boat that high, so every time I would want to 
replace the cable, I’m looking at a commercial yard with commercial yard rates 
(they’d have to do the work too.) $. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Chuck S  wrote:

> Hi Edd,
> How are the keel bolts laid out?  Are they on either side of the centerboard?
> 
> And the pendent is fed thru a tube sealed to the cabin floor?
> 
> How do you access the pulley that is placed below the waterline?
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek,
> Magothy River, Md
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 11:56:25 AM
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)
> 
> Stu (and any Listers who may be interested),
> 
>  You may want this document on the Photo Album site which may be of use to 
> others — it’s a diagram of the C&C 37+ (and XL) centerboard. I’m told that 
> the 34+ and XL centerboard models are very similar. 
> 
>  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/centerboard.pdf 
> 
>  Also, a correction on the site:  Under C&C Owners Homepages, could you 
> change my link to www.starshipsailing.com? Also, the Enterprise isn’t a 
> 37/40XL, but a 37+ (or 37/40+)
> 
>  Lastly, I have some photos of the 37+ interior and “Dock Photos” if you want 
> them. What is the best way to get these to you? 
> 
>  Thanks for all you do. 
> 
> 
> 
>  All the best,
> 
>  Edd
> 
> 
>  Edd M. Schillay
>  Starship Enterprise
>  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY 
>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

[Charles Nelson via CnC-List]

My board requires a yard travel lift to get the room to have the board hanging 
only by the pin--it appears that C&C designed them that way. Then everything is 
reasonably accessible.

The pennant travel passes thru a cabin top 'stop', then a sheave directing it 
vertically thru a SS tube thru the cabin floor to another sheave that directs 
it horizontal again just beneath the cabin sole to another sheave that directs 
it vertically thru the cb trunk/keel to the aft end go the elliptical board. 
This is different than the sketch Edd provided. I'll send it out when I get to 
a computer with it loaded on it. This drawing was done by Rob Bell in Oct 1993.

The sheaves are mounted in SS 'boxes' that have watertight SS access ports for 
inspection and running new pennants--both well below the waterline!

Further the keel bolts are into the cb trunk 'outside' the space that the cb 
occupies. 

I now have the pennant inspected during each yearly haul out for bottom 
painting, etc. and plan to replace it on a 5 year basis unless the yearly 
inspection indicates that it should be replaced sooner.

I know a lot more about cb design than I should but such is the life of a cb 
boat owner. Given my use of the boat and where it 'lives', I would buy another 
one without hesitation although I think a lifting keel would be the best but 
probably more costly.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36XL/kcb
Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
>   Had a long talk with a yard owner about this who is familiar with the 
> boat (he provided the diagram.) 
> 
>   I’m not sure about those few keel bolts other than to think they don’t 
> go down that far so the board can go up. 
> 
>   As you can see, with the board down, the cable access is still deep 
> inside the trunk — my divers were unable to get in there with any 
> light/tools. I’m told the only way to replace the cable is to haul the boat 
> at least 8 feet in the air, take apart the table so the steel tube and access 
> to the pulley below the waterline can be reached and taken apart. Then snake 
> the cable through and have someone try to reconnect inside the trunk (not a 
> lot of space to work with). 
> 
>   My club can’t get the boat that high, so every time I would want to 
> replace the cable, I’m looking at a commercial yard with commercial yard 
> rates (they’d have to do the work too.) $. 
> 
> 
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Chuck S  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Edd,
>> How are the keel bolts laid out?  Are they on either side of the centerboard?
>> 
>> And the pendent is fed thru a tube sealed to the cabin floor?
>> 
>> How do you access the pulley that is placed below the waterline?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek,
>> Magothy River, Md
>> 
>> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
>> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
>> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 11:56:25 AM
>> Subject: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)
>> 
>> Stu (and any Listers who may be interested),
>> 
>>  You may want this document on the Photo Album site which may be of use to 
>> others — it’s a diagram of the C&C 37+ (and XL) centerboard. I’m told that 
>> the 34+ and XL centerboard models are very similar. 
>> 
>>  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/centerboard.pdf 
>> 
>>  Also, a correction on the site:  Under C&C Owners Homepages, could you 
>> change my link to www.starshipsailing.com? Also, the Enterprise isn’t a 
>> 37/40XL, but a 37+ (or 37/40+)
>> 
>>  Lastly, I have some photos of the 37+ interior and “Dock Photos” if you 
>> want them. What is the best way to get these to you? 
>> 
>>  Thanks for all you do. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  All the best,
>> 
>>  Edd
>> 
>> 
>>  Edd M. Schillay
>>  Starship Enterprise
>>  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>  City Island, NY 
>>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

[Ron Casciato via CnC-List]

Just an added note:

My yard is now working on a Tartan 40 with the very same arrangement.  CB
pivots at the  leading edge of the keel and the fitting for the cable on
that boat is actually a block anchoring system where the end of the cable is
located up in the trunk and the block at the CB gives a 2:1 purchase up
through the keel into the cabin.

 

The CB block anchor corroded and just pulled out...

 

Seems to be the standard design for such a system.

 

Ron C.

Impromptu

C&C 38MKIIC .'77

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 8:18 PM
To: Edd Schillay; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

 

My board requires a yard travel lift to get the room to have the board
hanging only by the pin--it appears that C&C designed them that way. Then
everything is reasonably accessible.

 

The pennant travel passes thru a cabin top 'stop', then a sheave directing
it vertically thru a SS tube thru the cabin floor to another sheave that
directs it horizontal again just beneath the cabin sole to another sheave
that directs it vertically thru the cb trunk/keel to the aft end go the
elliptical board. This is different than the sketch Edd provided. I'll send
it out when I get to a computer with it loaded on it. This drawing was done
by Rob Bell in Oct 1993.

 

The sheaves are mounted in SS 'boxes' that have watertight SS access ports
for inspection and running new pennants--both well below the waterline!

 

Further the keel bolts are into the cb trunk 'outside' the space that the cb
occupies. 

 

I now have the pennant inspected during each yearly haul out for bottom
painting, etc. and plan to replace it on a 5 year basis unless the yearly
inspection indicates that it should be replaced sooner.

 

I know a lot more about cb design than I should but such is the life of a cb
boat owner. Given my use of the boat and where it 'lives', I would buy
another one without hesitation although I think a lifting keel would be the
best but probably more costly.

 

Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

C&C 36XL/kcb

Sent from my iPad


On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List
 wrote:

Chuck,

 

Had a long talk with a yard owner about this who is familiar
with the boat (he provided the diagram.) 

 

I'm not sure about those few keel bolts other than to think they
don't go down that far so the board can go up. 

 

As you can see, with the board down, the cable access is still
deep inside the trunk - my divers were unable to get in there with any
light/tools. I'm told the only way to replace the cable is to haul the boat
at least 8 feet in the air, take apart the table so the steel tube and
access to the pulley below the waterline can be reached and taken apart.
Then snake the cable through and have someone try to reconnect inside the
trunk (not a lot of space to work with). 

 

My club can't get the boat that high, so every time I would want
to replace the cable, I'm looking at a commercial yard with commercial yard
rates (they'd have to do the work too.) $. 



 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
Captain's Log

 

On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Chuck S  wrote:





Hi Edd,

How are the keel bolts laid out?  Are they on either side of the
centerboard?

 

And the pendent is fed thru a tube sealed to the cabin floor?

 

How do you access the pulley that is placed below the waterline?

 

 

 

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R

Broad Creek,
Magothy River, Md

 


  _  


From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 11:56:25 AM
Subject: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

 

Stu (and any Listers who may be interested),

 

 You may want this document on the Photo Album site which may be of use to
others - it's a diagram of the C&C 37+ (and XL) centerboard. I'm told that
the 34+ and XL centerboard models are very similar. 

 

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/centerboard.pdf 

 

 Also, a correction on the site:  Under C&C Owners Homepages, could you
change my link to www.starshipsailing.com <http://www.starshipsailing.com/>
? Also, the Enterprise isn't a 37/40XL, but a 37+ (or 37/40+)

 

 Lastly, I have some photos of the 37+ interior and "Dock Photos" if you
want them. What is the best way to get these to you? 

 

 Thanks for all you do. 

 

 

 Al

Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

[allen via CnC-List]

All the aft cabin models used the same nomenclature:  30+, 34+, 37+ nice teak 
interior and double spreader rig:  XL models triple spreader rigs with running 
backstays.

Allen Miles
S/V Septima  30-2+
Hampton, VA


From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:56 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Subject: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)


Stu (and any Listers who may be interested), 


You may want this document on the Photo Album site which may be of use to 
others — it’s a diagram of the C&C 37+ (and XL) centerboard. I’m told that the 
34+ and XL centerboard models are very similar. 


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/centerboard.pdf 


Also, a correction on the site:  Under C&C Owners Homepages, could you change 
my link to www.starshipsailing.com? Also, the Enterprise isn’t a 37/40XL, but a 
37+ (or 37/40+)


Lastly, I have some photos of the 37+ interior and “Dock Photos” if you want 
them. What is the best way to get these to you? 


Thanks for all you do. 





All the best,


Edd




Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log







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