Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  
Fair enough.  I do buy refurbished gear sometimes as well.  I was
  more thinking I'm not going to try and piece together a new
  transducer to the old display.
Raymarine doesn't have any of what I need right now in the referb
  section (only a depth display with no transducer)
Thanks,
Mark





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On 2018-12-19 5:14 PM, David Knecht via
  CnC-List wrote:


  
  I would disagree on one point.  I frequently buy refurbished
  electronics for boat and home and have not had a problem yet.  My
  logic is that at least the refurbished item has been specifically
  tested and shown to work up to spec.  That is more than the
  standard stuff off the assembly line gets.  Dave
  

  
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Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I would disagree on one point.  I frequently buy refurbished electronics for 
boat and home and have not had a problem yet.  My logic is that at least the 
refurbished item has been specifically tested and shown to work up to spec.  
That is more than the standard stuff off the assembly line gets.  Dave

S/V Aries
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New London, CT




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Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  
Thanks everyone for the replys.
Fred - If I was going to go with the i40 instruments then I would
  just replace the depth sounder - I wouldn't be adding wind
  instruments as part of the i40 group.  
Don't think I'm going to go refurbished or The big question - do
  I jump to the whole package and add in the wind sensor or just
  replace the existing depth.  

Dwight noted the benefits of all the extra info - but I have to
  admit I have zero experience in that area --- my sailing history
  is in dinghys with zero instruments, and my last 2 keel boats with
  only depth and speed.  Add that more often than not I don't have
  "crew"

I guess the single transducer speed/depth/temp adds another minor
  complexity - I'd have a thru-hull to plug.  But I have a couple
  unused thru-hulls from my conversion to composting head - so I'll
  need to patch those sometime soon anyway.
I'm going to take a closer look at my wires - see if there is any
  sign of damage that could be repaired.   If no luck I'll have to
  decide which way to go.  

I'll likely wait for boat show sales to see if there are deals -
  or Fred do you have deals on an i70 system?  

Mark






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On 2018-12-18 5:33 PM, Frederick G
  Street via CnC-List wrote:


  
  Mark — I would NOT consider the i40 system for wind; your only
  choice for a wind transducer is one suitable only for power boats.
  
  
  The i70 is a nice system; and yes, you do get water
temp with it, as the transducer is a single depth/speed/temp
transducer.  And you get a much better wind transducer.
  
  
  — Fred

  
  
  Fred Street -- Minneapolis
  S/V Oceanis (1979
  C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield,
  WI   :^(




  


  


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Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I put in a Raymarine Seatalkng network a few years ago with Fred’s help and am 
very happy with the system.  I added a Airmar DST800 depth/speed/temp tri-ducer 
last spring that I bought on eBay which plugged right into the network and 
worked perfectly.  It even fit into the hole from the old transducer with no 
modification.  For wind, I have a TacTic wireless wind sensor on the mast which 
I love because it needs no wiring, but you need a converter to get the signal 
into the Seatalkng network.  Given Raymarine seems to be making no progress at 
all on wireless, when I need to replace my masthead sensor, I will probably 
install a Sailtimer masthead unit (https://sailtimerwind.com 
).  Dave

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 5:30 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I replaced an Autohelm depth sounder display with one I purchased from 
> someone on the list. the transducer was ok. You can also check out the 
> Raymarine refurbished instruments. 
> http://www.raymarine.com/store/refurbished/ 
> . You might find something you 
> want there.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:11 PM Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> I'd appreciate some advice regarding a non-functioning depth sounder.
> 
> Near the end of the season my depth sounder started reading 0 no matter the 
> condition.  I couldn't find any obvious explanation for the problem - but I'm 
> thinking that the Autohelm depth and speedo are original to the 1986 boat - 
> so likely better to suck it up and replace than to jury rig a repair or sink 
> money into a new transducer.
> 
> Should I just replace the broken depth and worry about the speedo at at 
> another time?  Anyone think it's better to do a whole package?
> I have a Raymarine wheel pilot (waiting for me to install) - so I assume the 
> smart move would be to stick with the same product line. Such as - Raymarine 
> i40 Depth System with Thru-Hull Transducer E70142.  With the Binnacle a new 
> depth sounder $340, and a new speedo ($350) combined for almost $700 - would 
> I be better to add a whole package with wind instruments?
> Raymarine i70s Instrument Value Pack Speed Depth Wind T70226 -  
> https://tinyurl.com/y9zumft6 
> 
>  - $1600 cdn at Binnacle (I wouldn't mind if I could get water temp as well 
> but don't know if that's an option with Raymarine).
> 
> Another option - someone on this list suggested SailTimer as a better option 
> for wind instruments.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I replaced an Autohelm depth sounder display with one I purchased from
someone on the list. the transducer was ok. You can also check out the
Raymarine refurbished instruments.
http://www.raymarine.com/store/refurbished/. You might find something you
want there.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:11 PM Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> I'd appreciate some advice regarding a non-functioning depth sounder.
>
> Near the end of the season my depth sounder started reading 0 no matter
> the condition.  I couldn't find any obvious explanation for the problem -
> but I'm thinking that the Autohelm depth and speedo are original to the
> 1986 boat - so likely better to suck it up and replace than to jury rig a
> repair or sink money into a new transducer.
>
> Should I just replace the broken depth and worry about the speedo at at
> another time?  Anyone think it's better to do a whole package?
>
> I have a Raymarine wheel pilot (waiting for me to install) - so I assume
> the smart move would be to stick with the same product line. Such as -
> Raymarine i40 Depth System with Thru-Hull Transducer E70142.  With the
> Binnacle a new depth sounder $340, and a new speedo ($350) combined for
> almost $700 - would I be better to add a whole package with wind
> instruments?
>
> Raymarine i70s Instrument Value Pack Speed Depth Wind T70226 -  
> *https://tinyurl.com/y9zumft6
> 
> *- $1600 cdn at Binnacle (I wouldn't mind if I could get water temp as
> well but don't know if that's an option with Raymarine).
>
> Another option - someone on this list suggested SailTimer as a better
> option for wind instruments.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

HI Mark

 

Have been down this road with my ancient Standard Horizon system (wind, speed, 
depth).  Great system but has been out of production for 15+ years so parts are 
nonexistent.  A few years back had the same depth issue and solved with a new 
transducer and it works just fine.  Last season the wind direction died and 
replacement circuit board is not available so I decided to change.  I opted for 
the Raymarine  i50 / i60 system as best fit for my needs, functionality, 
pricing, availability and support.  Fred Street was a big help on this.

 

Essentially all transducers are made by Airmar.  Check 
http://www.airmartechnology.com/xref.html to see if there is one for your unit. 
 Order through Fred Street or check flea bay or if you’re lucky a lister might 
have one hanging around.  Fred may be able to help.  

 

If you are thinking of replacing the system and upgrading to an integrated one 
be sure you have NMEA compatibility especially to your wheel pilot and GPS.

 

Best of luck  

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

 

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Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar
Subject: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

 

 

I'd appreciate some advice regarding a non-functioning depth sounder.

Near the end of the season my depth sounder started reading 0 no matter the 
condition.  I couldn't find any obvious explanation for the problem - but I'm 
thinking that the Autohelm depth and speedo are original to the 1986 boat - so 
likely better to suck it up and replace than to jury rig a repair or sink money 
into a new transducer.

Should I just replace the broken depth and worry about the speedo at at another 
time?  Anyone think it's better to do a whole package?

I have a Raymarine wheel pilot (waiting for me to install) - so I assume the 
smart move would be to stick with the same product line. Such as - Raymarine 
i40 Depth System with Thru-Hull Transducer E70142.  With the Binnacle a new 
depth sounder $340, and a new speedo ($350) combined for almost $700 - would I 
be better to add a whole package with wind instruments?

Raymarine i70s Instrument Value Pack Speed Depth Wind T70226 -  
https://tinyurl.com/y9zumft6 - $1600 cdn at Binnacle (I wouldn't mind if I 
could get water temp as well but don't know if that's an option with Raymarine).

Another option - someone on this list suggested SailTimer as a better option 
for wind instruments.

Thanks in advance

Mark

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Do the raymarine i70 package and do it right. You will love the display if
you can mount everything in a pod on the coach house over your companion
way entrance easily in view of all in the cockpit. You and crew will learn
to sail to apparent wind angle and with an added display you may be able to
show VMG wind. I use that sometimes with my older st 60 raymarine gear.
Controls for the wheel pilot work good in a pod on the binnacle guard with
remote control elsewhere if you want to spend a few extra $’s you wont
regret that in harsh conditions

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 5:34 PM Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Mark — I would NOT consider the i40 system for wind; your only choice for
> a wind transducer is one suitable only for power boats.
>
> The i70 is a nice system; and yes, you do get water temp with it, as the
> transducer is a single depth/speed/temp transducer.  And you get a much
> better wind transducer.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Dec 18, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I'd appreciate some advice regarding a non-functioning depth sounder.
>
> Near the end of the season my depth sounder started reading 0 no matter
> the condition.  I couldn't find any obvious explanation for the problem -
> but I'm thinking that the Autohelm depth and speedo are original to the
> 1986 boat - so likely better to suck it up and replace than to jury rig a
> repair or sink money into a new transducer.
>
> Should I just replace the broken depth and worry about the speedo at at
> another time?  Anyone think it's better to do a whole package?
>
> I have a Raymarine wheel pilot (waiting for me to install) - so I assume
> the smart move would be to stick with the same product line. Such as -
> Raymarine i40 Depth System with Thru-Hull Transducer E70142.  With the
> Binnacle a new depth sounder $340, and a new speedo ($350) combined for
> almost $700 - would I be better to add a whole package with wind
> instruments?
>
> Raymarine i70s Instrument Value Pack Speed Depth Wind T70226 -  
> *https://tinyurl.com/y9zumft6
>  *- $1600 cdn at Binnacle (I wouldn't mind
> if I could get water temp as well but don't know if that's an option with
> Raymarine).
>
> Another option - someone on this list suggested SailTimer as a better
> option for wind instruments.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Mark
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Mark — I would NOT consider the i40 system for wind; your only choice for a 
wind transducer is one suitable only for power boats.

The i70 is a nice system; and yes, you do get water temp with it, as the 
transducer is a single depth/speed/temp transducer.  And you get a much better 
wind transducer.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd appreciate some advice regarding a non-functioning depth sounder.
> 
> Near the end of the season my depth sounder started reading 0 no matter the 
> condition.  I couldn't find any obvious explanation for the problem - but I'm 
> thinking that the Autohelm depth and speedo are original to the 1986 boat - 
> so likely better to suck it up and replace than to jury rig a repair or sink 
> money into a new transducer.
> 
> Should I just replace the broken depth and worry about the speedo at at 
> another time?  Anyone think it's better to do a whole package?
> 
> I have a Raymarine wheel pilot (waiting for me to install) - so I assume the 
> smart move would be to stick with the same product line. Such as - Raymarine 
> i40 Depth System with Thru-Hull Transducer E70142.  With the Binnacle a new 
> depth sounder $340, and a new speedo ($350) combined for almost $700 - would 
> I be better to add a whole package with wind instruments?
> 
> Raymarine i70s Instrument Value Pack Speed Depth Wind T70226 -  
> https://tinyurl.com/y9zumft6  - $1600 cdn at 
> Binnacle (I wouldn't mind if I could get water temp as well but don't know if 
> that's an option with Raymarine).
> 
> Another option - someone on this list suggested SailTimer as a better option 
> for wind instruments.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Mark
> 

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Re: Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Will likely be on sale when the Boat Show starts in Toronto Jan 18

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> On Dec 18, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'd appreciate some advice regarding a non-functioning depth sounder.
> 
> Near the end of the season my depth sounder started reading 0 no matter the 
> condition.  I couldn't find any obvious explanation for the problem - but I'm 
> thinking that the Autohelm depth and speedo are original to the 1986 boat - 
> so likely better to suck it up and replace than to jury rig a repair or sink 
> money into a new transducer.
> 
> Should I just replace the broken depth and worry about the speedo at at 
> another time?  Anyone think it's better to do a whole package?
> 
> I have a Raymarine wheel pilot (waiting for me to install) - so I assume the 
> smart move would be to stick with the same product line. Such as - Raymarine 
> i40 Depth System with Thru-Hull Transducer E70142.  With the Binnacle a new 
> depth sounder $340, and a new speedo ($350) combined for almost $700 - would 
> I be better to add a whole package with wind instruments?
> 
> Raymarine i70s Instrument Value Pack Speed Depth Wind T70226 -  
> https://tinyurl.com/y9zumft6 - $1600 cdn at Binnacle (I wouldn't mind if I 
> could get water temp as well but don't know if that's an option with 
> Raymarine).
> 
> Another option - someone on this list suggested SailTimer as a better option 
> for wind instruments.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Depth sounder replacement

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  


I'd appreciate some advice regarding a non-functioning depth
  sounder.
Near the end of the season my depth sounder started reading 0 no
  matter the condition.  I couldn't find any obvious explanation for
  the problem - but I'm thinking that the Autohelm depth and speedo
  are original to the 1986 boat - so likely better to suck it up and
  replace than to jury rig a repair or sink money into a new
  transducer.
Should I just replace the broken depth and worry about the speedo
  at at another time?  Anyone think it's better to do a whole
  package?

I have a Raymarine wheel pilot (waiting for me to install) - so I
  assume the smart move would be to stick with the same product
  line. Such as - Raymarine i40 Depth System with Thru-Hull
  Transducer E70142.  With the Binnacle a new depth sounder $340,
  and a new speedo ($350) combined for almost $700 - would I be
  better to add a whole package with wind instruments?

Raymarine i70s Instrument Value Pack Speed Depth Wind T70226 -  https://tinyurl.com/y9zumft6
  - $1600 cdn at Binnacle (I wouldn't mind if I could get water
  temp as well but don't know if that's an option with Raymarine).
Another option - someone on this list suggested SailTimer as a
  better option for wind instruments.
Thanks in advance
Mark





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