Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Joe at Zialater via CnC-List]

My 1975 30-1,  Zia is up for a nice Christmas gift this year - a folding
prop.  

Any recommendations for a good folder that will still give me decent
performance in forward and reverse?  I don't know the current two blade prop
specs but she is being pushed by a smooth running Atomic 4.

Thanks for any input - and happy holidays!

Joe Boyle
Zia
Annapolis, MD
j...@zialater.com




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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I am surprised you don't have ten different suggestions already.
So I will just tell you to get yourself a nice 2 blade Flex-O-Fold and don't
look back.
Hard to go wrong there.



Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA

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Subject: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

My 1975 30-1,  Zia is up for a nice Christmas gift this year - a folding
prop.  

Any recommendations for a good folder that will still give me decent
performance in forward and reverse?  I don't know the current two blade prop
specs but she is being pushed by a smooth running Atomic 4.

Thanks for any input - and happy holidays!

Joe Boyle
Zia
Annapolis, MD
j...@zialater.com




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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Agree with Bill...i don't have one but a friend on a similar size boat to
Alianna does and he liked it..

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am surprised you don't have ten different suggestions already.
> So I will just tell you to get yourself a nice 2 blade Flex-O-Fold and
> don't
> look back.
> Hard to go wrong there.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
> C&C 39 Erie, PA
>
> -Original Message-
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> Zialater via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 11:58 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Joe at Zialater
> Subject: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4
>
> My 1975 30-1,  Zia is up for a nice Christmas gift this year - a folding
> prop.
>
> Any recommendations for a good folder that will still give me decent
> performance in forward and reverse?  I don't know the current two blade
> prop
> specs but she is being pushed by a smooth running Atomic 4.
>
> Thanks for any input - and happy holidays!
>
> Joe Boyle
> Zia
> Annapolis, MD
> j...@zialater.com
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

And Flex-o-Fold likely has WAY MORE reverse than something like a Martec!

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

Agree with Bill...i don't have one but a friend on a similar size boat to 
Alianna does and he liked it..

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net<mailto:d.ve...@bellaliant.net>


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am surprised you don't have ten different suggestions already.
So I will just tell you to get yourself a nice 2 blade Flex-O-Fold and don't
look back.
Hard to go wrong there.



Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA

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Cc: Joe at Zialater
Subject: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

My 1975 30-1,  Zia is up for a nice Christmas gift this year - a folding
prop.

Any recommendations for a good folder that will still give me decent
performance in forward and reverse?  I don't know the current two blade prop
specs but she is being pushed by a smooth running Atomic 4.

Thanks for any input - and happy holidays!

Joe Boyle
Zia
Annapolis, MD
j...@zialater.com<mailto:j...@zialater.com>




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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a geared 
one so that you can be sure that it opened.
 
If you race, the lowest drag 2 blade demonstrated by tests in Yachting magazine 
was a Gori--which I have used for several years without problems.
 
It takes a few seconds running in reverse to start 'biting' and moving the boat 
but she will move the boat. Once the boat is moving, 
you start to get some flow over the rudder and can actually steer.

Just be sure you have reasonable room around the boat when you go to reverse.

In my case, I coast to almost a dead stop, put it in reverse and rev the engine 
to get her moving
in reverse and then steer her toward the slip with judicious use of low 
throttle in reverse or neutral. 

Without serious wind or tides, this method works for me--she only goes back 
into forward to stop her in the slip.
If something messes up this scheme, back to open water and repeat!

Maneuvering in close quarters between reverse and forward with several seconds 
delay is to be avoided with any folding prop IMHO.

Charlie Nelson
C&C 36 XL/kcb
Water Phantom
 
 
 
 
 
cenel...@aol.com

 
 
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Cc: dwight veinot 
Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2015 9:37 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4



Agree with Bill...i don't have one but a friend on a similar size boat to 
Alianna does and he liked it..





Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

d.ve...@bellaliant.net





On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I am surprised you don't have ten different suggestions already.
So I will just tell you to get yourself a nice 2 blade Flex-O-Fold and don't
look back.
Hard to go wrong there.



Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA


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Cc: Joe at Zialater
Subject: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

My 1975 30-1,  Zia is up for a nice Christmas gift this year - a folding
prop.

Any recommendations for a good folder that will still give me decent
performance in forward and reverse?  I don't know the current two blade prop
specs but she is being pushed by a smooth running Atomic 4.

Thanks for any input - and happy holidays!

Joe Boyle
Zia
Annapolis, MD
j...@zialater.com




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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I had a Martec for our A4 powered boat and HATED it. For racing the low drag 
was nice, but that is the best thing I could say about it. Reverse was only a 
theory with that prop. It was dumpsterized about 18 years ago.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a geared 
one so that you can be sure that it opened.

If you race, the lowest drag 2 blade demonstrated by tests in Yachting magazine 
was a Gori--which I have used for several years without problems.

It takes a few seconds running in reverse to start 'biting' and moving the boat 
but she will move the boat. Once the boat is moving,
you start to get some flow over the rudder and can actually steer.

Just be sure you have reasonable room around the boat when you go to reverse.

In my case, I coast to almost a dead stop, put it in reverse and rev the engine 
to get her moving
in reverse and then steer her toward the slip with judicious use of low 
throttle in reverse or neutral.

Without serious wind or tides, this method works for me--she only goes back 
into forward to stop her in the slip.
If something messes up this scheme, back to open water and repeat!

Maneuvering in close quarters between reverse and forward with several seconds 
delay is to be avoided with any folding prop IMHO.

Charlie Nelson
C&C 36 XL/kcb
Water Phantom





cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com>


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Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2015 9:37 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4
Agree with Bill...i don't have one but a friend on a similar size boat to 
Alianna does and he liked it..

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net<mailto:d.ve...@bellaliant.net>


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am surprised you don't have ten different suggestions already.
So I will just tell you to get yourself a nice 2 blade Flex-O-Fold and don't
look back.
Hard to go wrong there.



Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA

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Cc: Joe at Zialater
Subject: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

My 1975 30-1,  Zia is up for a nice Christmas gift this year - a folding
prop.

Any recommendations for a good folder that will still give me decent
performance in forward and reverse?  I don't know the current two blade prop
specs but she is being pushed by a smooth running Atomic 4.

Thanks for any input - and happy holidays!

Joe Boyle
Zia
Annapolis, MD
j...@zialater.com<mailto:j...@zialater.com>




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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Indigo via CnC-List]

 "No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a geared 
one so that you can be sure that it opened."

Have to disagree with this statement. My 35-III with a two blade Max-prop goes 
very well in reverse. In fact in tight situations I often prefer to extract 
myself in reverse!

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:10, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a geared 
> one so that you can be sure that it opened.

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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I have a Gori 2 blade 11.5 x 8 on Windburn, a 77 30-1 with an Atomic 4 ( 
Stevedore ).
My guess is that at 8 it is over pitched but 11.5 x 8 appears to be the 
smallest standard
Gori prop size. I can get to about 6.2 kts into light weather, and can tow 
another 10,000 lb
boat into waves at 5 kts. Reverse is fine though full power at a standstill can 
invoke a lot
of prop walk.

The advantage of being over pitched is that during light motor sailing the 
Atomic 4 is just
above idle, quiet and smooth. 

I have no complaints, though I usually am under auxiliary only coming in and 
out of the club.
If your usage included days of motoring into current and waves and as a cruiser 
you are
carrying more weight ( Windburn is pretty light for racing ) then I would be 
concerned about
the 8 pitch. When I spoke with a Gori rep at the Toronto boat show he mentioned 
they can
make the props at different pitches.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:10:28 -0500 
From: cenel...@aol.com 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4 
Message-ID: <151ca3dd4c9-520f-...@webprd-m99.mail.aol.com> 
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No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a geared 
one so that you can be sure that it opened. 
  
If you race, the lowest drag 2 blade demonstrated by tests in Yachting magazine 
was a Gori--which I have used for several years without problems. 
  
It takes a few seconds running in reverse to start 'biting' and moving the boat 
but she will move the boat. Once the boat is moving,  
you start to get some flow over the rudder and can actually steer. 
 
Just be sure you have reasonable room around the boat when you go to reverse. 
 
In my case, I coast to almost a dead stop, put it in reverse and rev the engine 
to get her moving 
in reverse and then steer her toward the slip with judicious use of low 
throttle in reverse or neutral.  
 
Without serious wind or tides, this method works for me--she only goes back 
into forward to stop her in the slip. 
If something messes up this scheme, back to open water and repeat! 
 
Maneuvering in close quarters between reverse and forward with several seconds 
delay is to be avoided with any folding prop IMHO. 
 
Charlie Nelson 
C&C 36 XL/kcb 
Water Phantom 
  
cenel...@aol.com 
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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

My (Feathering, not folding) Max Prop  2 blade is excellent in reverse as
well. Of course, you should look at the oft cited Practical Sailor report
on folding and feathering props for more objective opinions. Should be easy
to find

Kevin
30-2
PDX

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:32 AM Michael Brown via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a Gori 2 blade 11.5 x 8 on Windburn, a 77 30-1 with an Atomic 4 (
> Stevedore ).
> My guess is that at 8 it is over pitched but 11.5 x 8 appears to be the
> smallest standard
> Gori prop size. I can get to about 6.2 kts into light weather, and can tow
> another 10,000 lb
> boat into waves at 5 kts. Reverse is fine though full power at a
> standstill can invoke a lot
> of prop walk.
>
> The advantage of being over pitched is that during light motor sailing the
> Atomic 4 is just
> above idle, quiet and smooth.
>
> I have no complaints, though I usually am under auxiliary only coming in
> and out of the club.
> If your usage included days of motoring into current and waves and as a
> cruiser you are
> carrying more weight ( Windburn is pretty light for racing ) then I would
> be concerned about
> the 8 pitch. When I spoke with a Gori rep at the Toronto boat show he
> mentioned they can
> make the props at different pitches.
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:10:28 -0500
> From: cenel...@aol.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4
>
> Message-ID: <151ca3dd4c9-520f-...@webprd-m99.mail.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
> No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a
> geared one so that you can be sure that it opened.
>
> If you race, the lowest drag 2 blade demonstrated by tests in Yachting
> magazine was a Gori--which I have used for several years without problems.
>
> It takes a few seconds running in reverse to start 'biting' and moving the
> boat but she will move the boat. Once the boat is moving,
> you start to get some flow over the rudder and can actually steer.
>
> Just be sure you have reasonable room around the boat when you go to
> reverse.
>
> In my case, I coast to almost a dead stop, put it in reverse and rev the
> engine to get her moving
> in reverse and then steer her toward the slip with judicious use of low
> throttle in reverse or neutral.
>
> Without serious wind or tides, this method works for me--she only goes
> back into forward to stop her in the slip.
> If something messes up this scheme, back to open water and repeat!
>
> Maneuvering in close quarters between reverse and forward with several
> seconds delay is to be avoided with any folding prop IMHO.
>
> Charlie Nelson
> C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
>
> cenel...@aol.com
>
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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Jonathan,

I think Charlie meant to criticize two-bladed FOLDING propellers as having
poor reverse power.  The Max prop isn't a folding prop, is it?

I have a two-bladed Martec and I get along just fine with it.  It takes a
good shot of throttle to get some momentum in reverse, but then it backs up
just fine.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
Hampton VA



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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:53
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Indigo 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

 "No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a
geared one so that you can be sure that it opened."

Have to disagree with this statement. My 35-III with a two blade Max-prop
goes very well in reverse. In fact in tight situations I often prefer to
extract myself in reverse!

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:10, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
 wrote:
> 
> No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a
geared one so that you can be sure that it opened.

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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Ditto my Max prop. 
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi

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On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
 wrote:

My (Feathering, not folding) Max Prop  2 blade is excellent in reverse as well. 
Of course, you should look at the oft cited Practical Sailor report on folding 
and feathering props for more objective opinions. Should be easy to find


Kevin

30-2

PDX


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:32 AM Michael Brown via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I have a Gori 2 blade 11.5 x 8 on Windburn, a 77 30-1 with an Atomic 4 ( 
Stevedore ).
My guess is that at 8 it is over pitched but 11.5 x 8 appears to be the 
smallest standard
Gori prop size. I can get to about 6.2 kts into light weather, and can tow 
another 10,000 lb
boat into waves at 5 kts. Reverse is fine though full power at a standstill can 
invoke a lot
of prop walk.

The advantage of being over pitched is that during light motor sailing the 
Atomic 4 is just
above idle, quiet and smooth. 

I have no complaints, though I usually am under auxiliary only coming in and 
out of the club.
If your usage included days of motoring into current and waves and as a cruiser 
you are
carrying more weight ( Windburn is pretty light for racing ) then I would be 
concerned about
the 8 pitch. When I spoke with a Gori rep at the Toronto boat show he mentioned 
they can
make the props at different pitches.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1

Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:10:28 -0500 

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No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a geared 
one so that you can be sure that it opened. 

If you race, the lowest drag 2 blade demonstrated by tests in Yachting magazine 
was a Gori--which I have used for several years without problems. 

It takes a few seconds running in reverse to start 'biting' and moving the boat 
but she will move the boat. Once the boat is moving, 
you start to get some flow over the rudder and can actually steer. 

Just be sure you have reasonable room around the boat when you go to reverse. 

In my case, I coast to almost a dead stop, put it in reverse and rev the engine 
to get her moving 
in reverse and then steer her toward the slip with judicious use of low 
throttle in reverse or neutral. 

Without serious wind or tides, this method works for me--she only goes back 
into forward to stop her in the slip. 
If something messes up this scheme, back to open water and repeat! 

Maneuvering in close quarters between reverse and forward with several seconds 
delay is to be avoided with any folding prop IMHO. 

Charlie Nelson 
C&C 36 XL/kcb 
Water Phantom 

cenel...@aol.com 

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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Never had an issue with my Martec.  Guess I just don't know any different.
:)  <-smiley face

Dennis C.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> I think Charlie meant to criticize two-bladed FOLDING propellers as having
> poor reverse power.  The Max prop isn't a folding prop, is it?
>
> I have a two-bladed Martec and I get along just fine with it.  It takes a
> good shot of throttle to get some momentum in reverse, but then it backs up
> just fine.
>
> Jake
>
> Jake Brodersen
> C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
> Hampton VA
>
> 
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[jtsails via CnC-List]

Joe,
there is a ton of discussion about props for direct drive A-4s on the Moyer 
forum. The prevailing opinion seeming to be that it is important to select a 
prop that will allow the engine to develop enough rpms to get into the heart 
of it's powerband. A-4s output very little power below 2000 rpms so you need 
a prop that will allow you to get above that. The most popular prop these 
days seems to be the indigo 3-blade fixed. I will say that the Gori 8 inch 
folding sounds like a great option, but I would go to a 7 pitch. The A-4 is 
a very robust design and will happily run at higher rpms with no problems 
for years! I personally run mine at 2800 rpms turning a 16-10 two blade 
(fixed) with a 2:1 reduction.

James
Delaney
C&C 38 Mk11
Oriental, NC


-Original Message- 
From: Joe at Zialater via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 11:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joe at Zialater
Subject: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

My 1975 30-1,  Zia is up for a nice Christmas gift this year - a folding
prop.

Any recommendations for a good folder that will still give me decent
performance in forward and reverse?  I don't know the current two blade prop
specs but she is being pushed by a smooth running Atomic 4.

Thanks for any input - and happy holidays!

Joe Boyle
Zia
Annapolis, MD
j...@zialater.com




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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[ahycrace--- via CnC-List]

I agree I have a max prop 2 blade and reverse is just incredible it's like a 
tug boat is backing you up.

Gary Kolc
1976 38' MKII
Liberty
 Indigo via CnC-List  wrote: 
>  "No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a 
> geared one so that you can be sure that it opened."
> 
> Have to disagree with this statement. My 35-III with a two blade Max-prop 
> goes very well in reverse. In fact in tight situations I often prefer to 
> extract myself in reverse!
> 
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
> 
> > On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:10, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a 
> > geared one so that you can be sure that it opened.
> 
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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

Agree also.
I replaced the original Michigan Wheel 2 blade on my 27 with a 2 blade 
geared Gori and got better "traction" in reverse, due I think to the 
increased surface area.


Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

C&C36 MKI
Merritt Island, FL

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 20:47
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I agree I have a max prop 2 blade and reverse is just incredible it's like 
a tug boat is backing you up.


Gary Kolc
1976 38' MKII
Liberty
 Indigo via CnC-List  wrote:
 "No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a 
geared one so that you can be sure that it opened."


Have to disagree with this statement. My 35-III with a two blade Max-prop 
goes very well in reverse. In fact in tight situations I often prefer to 
extract myself in reverse!


--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:10, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:

>
> No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a 
> geared one so that you can be sure that it opened.


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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

There is a used Martec on Annapolis Craigslist. No relationship to the
seller.
Joel

On Wednesday, December 23, 2015, S Thomas via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Agree also.
> I replaced the original Michigan Wheel 2 blade on my 27 with a 2 blade
> geared Gori and got better "traction" in reverse, due I think to the
> increased surface area.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C&C27 MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
>
> C&C36 MKI
> Merritt Island, FL
>
> - Original Message - From: "ahycrace--- via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 20:47
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4
>
>
> I agree I have a max prop 2 blade and reverse is just incredible it's like
>> a tug boat is backing you up.
>>
>> Gary Kolc
>> 1976 38' MKII
>> Liberty
>>  Indigo via CnC-List  wrote:
>>
>>>  "No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a
>>> geared one so that you can be sure that it opened."
>>>
>>> Have to disagree with this statement. My 35-III with a two blade
>>> Max-prop goes very well in reverse. In fact in tight situations I often
>>> prefer to extract myself in reverse!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan
>>> Indigo C&C 35III
>>> SOUTHPORT CT
>>>
>>> > On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:10, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List > <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a
>>> > geared one so that you can be sure that it opened.
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

I also have a used Martec available.  It has been a nice decoration in my
office since I switched it for a Flex-o-Fold a few years back, but it does
still work (just not in reverse...).  It's for a 1" shaft and free with
shipping costs to a good home.

Tim
Branford, CT

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> There is a used Martec on Annapolis Craigslist. No relationship to the
> seller.
> Joel
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015, S Thomas via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Agree also.
>> I replaced the original Michigan Wheel 2 blade on my 27 with a 2 blade
>> geared Gori and got better "traction" in reverse, due I think to the
>> increased surface area.
>>
>> Steve Thomas
>> C&C27 MKIII
>> Port Stanley, ON
>>
>> C&C36 MKI
>> Merritt Island, FL
>>
>> - Original Message ----- From: "ahycrace--- via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: 
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 20:47
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4
>>
>>
>> I agree I have a max prop 2 blade and reverse is just incredible it's
>>> like a tug boat is backing you up.
>>>
>>> Gary Kolc
>>> 1976 38' MKII
>>> Liberty
>>>  Indigo via CnC-List  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  "No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a
>>>> geared one so that you can be sure that it opened."
>>>>
>>>> Have to disagree with this statement. My 35-III with a two blade
>>>> Max-prop goes very well in reverse. In fact in tight situations I often
>>>> prefer to extract myself in reverse!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> Indigo C&C 35III
>>>> SOUTHPORT CT
>>>>
>>>> > On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:10, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List > <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a
>>>> > geared one so that you can be sure that it opened.
>>>>
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