Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-06 Thread Dave via CnC-List
Bob,
I have a 2.5 Lehr which is just oK. If I were to buy a new dingy motor I'd look 
at the Honda 2.3 HPW 4 stroke. 30 pounds, internal gas tank, quiet and less 
than $1K. 
Dave
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

Thanks Danny.  I've not really looked at motors yet but have seen the
information on the Lehr propane models and was intrigued by their light
weight, no need for gas/oil etc.  Can you share any more details on your
experience with it?  How long have you had it?  Can you pull off the
propane tank when its half empty and does that then allow you to stow it in
a locker below or does it still have propane in the engine somewhere,
lurking to escape into your bilge?

Bob

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Some years ago, I purchased a used. west marine, zodiac roll up at a yard
> sale and had an old 2hp kicker on it.  I used in the area you are moving
> to.  More specifically, on the wesport river where there was nearly always
> a 3 to 4 knot current (except slack tide).  It did the job for us.  Not
> nearly as effortlessly as a RIB but, it worked.  When I sold that boat the
> buyer offered to buy the roll up and I sold it.  So, As I was searching for
> the new boat I went into Ocean state job lot, A local chain, liquidation
> type place, where I had noticed they had sold some off brand PVC inflatable
> boats.  One 8'6 rollup and a 9'6 inflatable V hull, plywood floor.  I read
> and researched and researched and could find very little negative and a few
> positive write ups.  I opted for the latter and thought I should return
> it...  Well a waited too long for the return widow and kept it.
>
> After buying the new boat and launching, I finally unpacked, assembled and
> inflated the inflatable boat.  I couldn't be happier.  The boat held air
> all season and seemed comparable to any other boat on the dinghy dock.  I
> did end up buying a 2.5hp Lehr Propane powered OB for the back of it.  I
> love the propane option.  I use the same bottle for the grill and they can
> be changed out in less than a minute.  You motor till it dies, unscrew the
> expended bottle and screw in the new.  1 or 2 pulls and your off again.  It
> only weighs 35 lbs so putting it on the rail is pretty easy.
> The roll up was hard to control through the water due the the flat, soft
> bottom, the inflatable keel handles much better.  2.5 HP is enough for us
> for now and the boat can take up to 8hp I think.
>
> The boat is called a Bestway Caspian Hydoforce Pro 110 and I paid $450 for
> it.  The smaller one was $369 i believe.  I'm sure I'll get at least a few
> more years out of it.  It was tied to the dingy dock most of the summer and
> it still looks brand new.  The boat only weighs about 65lbs.  So, I can
> pull up on deck without too much effort and a spare halyard makes that even
> easier!
>
> I'd love a RIB with a 10hp but, I don't have davits and the engine is
> probably 100lbs.  So, the boat, davits an engine hoist...  your looking at
> 7 - 10K all in.  I spent 450 for the boat and 950 for the engine on sale at
> west marine.  I also had a bunch of WM gift cards from family members that
> saved me another 300 so my out of pocket was like under $1100 for the
> tender and motor!
>
> Oh, and the boat came with big tubes, a pump, oars, and the nice fill
> caps.  Again, I'm quite happy with the purchase.  I'm willing to bet the
> boat was made in the same factory as some of the big name boats.
>
> Danny
>
>
> On 3/1/2017 3:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a
> tender to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay,
> Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to
> serve as a tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many
> times on charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy
> to set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early
> in my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4
> person capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor,
> with perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of
> the same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatab

Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-04 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Ooh!  If your planning a gathering I'm interested! 
Danny


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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase 
I think he's pretty flexible. I'd come over and make an decent offer. I'll be 
back around the 13th.Shall we grab Harry and get lunch or a cocktail after work 
that week?I need to go over dropping my rudder with you.Andy

Andrew Burton61 W NarragansettNewport, RI USA    02840
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On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:28, David via CnC-List  wrote:








Andy,



Do you know how much he wants for the rig?





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Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase
 



A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric start 
Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the aluminum. He 
towed it with his Tartan 3500.


I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to you, 
if you like



Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine



Andrew Burton

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> On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:

> 

> Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just got a 
> new one great boat. Tows very good.

> nothing but good things to say about it.

> 

> Gary Kolc

>  "Liberty"

>   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)

> 

>  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  wrote: 

>> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender

>> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and

>> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a

>> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on

>> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.

>> 

>> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to

>> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in

>> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person

>> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with

>> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the

>> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic

>> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.

>> 

>> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your

>> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors

>> should I be considering as I make my selection?

>> 

>> Regards,

>> Bob McLaughlin

>> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"

> 

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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-04 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Warning:
once you go RIB, you don't go back!
(My son now wants a 25 hp engine)

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> On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:55, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric 
> start Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the 
> aluminum. He towed it with his Tartan 3500. 
> I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to 
> you, if you like
> 
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just got a 
>> new one great boat. Tows very good.
>> nothing but good things to say about it.
>> 
>>Gary Kolc
>> "Liberty"
>>  Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)
>> 
>>  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  wrote: 
>>> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender
>>> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and
>>> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
>>> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
>>> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>>> 
>>> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to
>>> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in
>>> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person
>>> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
>>> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the
>>> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
>>> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>>> 
>>> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
>>> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
>>> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob McLaughlin
>>> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-04 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I think he's pretty flexible. I'd come over and make an decent offer. I'll be 
back around the 13th.
Shall we grab Harry and get lunch or a cocktail after work that week?
I need to go over dropping my rudder with you.
Andy

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:28, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Andy,
> 
> 
> Do you know how much he wants for the rig?
> 
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Andrew Burton via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 4:55 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Andrew Burton
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase
>  
> A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric 
> start Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the 
> aluminum. He towed it with his Tartan 3500. 
> I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to 
> you, if you like
> 
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
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> years and more than 300,000 miles logged as captain on boats as varied as a 
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> 
> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just got a 
> > new one great boat. Tows very good.
> > nothing but good things to say about it.
> > 
> > Gary Kolc
> >  "Liberty"
> >   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)
> > 
> >  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  wrote: 
> >> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender
> >> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and
> >> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
> >> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
> >> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
> >> 
> >> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to
> >> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in
> >> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person
> >> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
> >> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the
> >> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> >> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
> >> 
> >> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
> >> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
> >> should I be considering as I make my selection?
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Bob McLaughlin
> >> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
> > 
> > 
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-04 Thread David via CnC-List
Andy,


Do you know how much he wants for the rig?


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



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Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric start 
Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the aluminum. He 
towed it with his Tartan 3500.
I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to you, 
if you like

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>
> Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just got a 
> new one great boat. Tows very good.
> nothing but good things to say about it.
>
> Gary Kolc
>  "Liberty"
>   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)
>
>  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  wrote:
>> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender
>> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and
>> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
>> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
>> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>>
>> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to
>> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in
>> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person
>> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
>> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the
>> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
>> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>>
>> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
>> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
>> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob McLaughlin
>> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-03 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Bob,
  

I bought a Mercury Hypalon RIB 8’2” (260) to use with Half Magic, my  Landfall 
35.  It is a single wall fiberglass hull which some would argue may not hold up 
over time, but it only weighs about 80 lbs and I power it with a 4hp Yamaha 4 
stroke.  Not terribly fast but enough power to buck a 3kt current in Canapitsit 
channel.   Deflated, I can fit both the RIB and the engine in the back of our 
Honda Pilot with the rear seat down plus it is light enough to lift onto the 
roof rack with pontoons inflated.

I purposely bought a lightweight RIB because we use dinghy davits to go from 
port to port and I was concerned with the extra weight on the transom mounted 
davit supports.  Defender usually has inventory of previous year’s models which 
can save a lot.

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|215570|1794282|1794293 
<http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|215570|1794282|1794293&id=3150782>
 &id=3150782

 

My previous PVC Mercury hard floor inflatable was a size smaller which wouldn’t 
accommodate our family of 4 plus the 70lb Labrador Retriever, but I had no 
concern with the quality of the boat (despite its Chinese origin) over the 6 
years I owned it using a 2hp Yamaha 2 stroke.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 5:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bob McLaughlin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

 

Hi Andy.  Thank you.  One problem for me is storage of the boat when not in 
use.  There's a long wait list for both the Bristol YC dinghy dock as well as 
the Town of Bristol, so I'll need to deflate it and take it home or store it 
aboard when its not needed, so I think the boat and motor your buddy has won't 
fit the bill for me.  Maybe a good deal for someone else on the list?

 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric start 
Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the aluminum. He 
towed it with his Tartan 3500.
I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to you, 
if you like

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:
>
> Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just got a 
> new one great boat. Tows very good.
> nothing but good things to say about it.
>
> Gary Kolc
>  "Liberty"
>   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)
>
>  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:
>> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender
>> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and
>> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
>> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
>> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>>
>> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to
>> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in
>> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person
>> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
>> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the
>> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
>> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>>
>> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
>> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
>> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob McLaughlin
>> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-03 Thread Damian Greene via CnC-List
Bob,
Other listers seem generally happy with a roll-up and a 2HP, but let me give 
you contrarian advice.
When I bought my C&C 34 about 7 years ago to sail on those same waters 
(LIS/Vineyard/Block/Buzzards - based in Westport CT), I bought a Zodiac roll-up 
and a 2HP Honda. Crew was me, my wife, and 2 kids then 10 &11. I found the 
dinghy/outboard combination was too small and underpowered to take everyone, 
especially in chop and if we happened to be in an exposed anchorage/mooring.  
The flat bottom roll-up did not track well. So I would end up ferrying people 
in a couple of runs.
After one season, I switched to a Defender RIB and a Tohatsu 6HP (bought these 
at the Defender annual sale). Sold the roll-up and 2HP Honda. This was a major 
improvement. Now no problems with wind/chop conditions, due to the rigid keel 
and the stronger engine.
Two trade-offs:1) The RIB is heavier to tow (BTW - accept that in reality you 
will end up towing the roll-up, rather than assembling/disassembling it every 
day on a cruise).2) Heavier engine - I installed a crane on the rear rail. That 
makes the job easy. Actually better than trying to man-handle the 2HP.
We're now based in Maine, with 2 teenagers, and I know for sure that the 
smaller dinghy/outboard would not work for us.
Anyway, that's my experience.
Regards,
Damian
Damian Greene1982 C&C 34 GhostBass Harbor ME



  From: Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Bob McLaughlin 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 9:24 PM
 Subject: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase
   
Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender to 
now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters but 
never really paid much attention to detail.  
I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to set 
up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with perhaps 
a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the same 
design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic transportation.  No 
davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors should 
I be considering as I make my selection?
Regards,Bob McLaughlinC&C 110 "Blue Devil" 



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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-02 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Although it probably won’t stow on the foredeck as well as a roll-up, I 
recently got a good deal on a Mercury fiberglass RIB from Defender.  They still 
have a few of the Hypalon 2015 versions left at $1895.00:

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C215570%7C1794282%7C1794293&id=3227587
 
<http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|215570|1794282|1794293&id=3227587>

Relatively lightweight at 85 pounds; about the same as (or less than) my 
previous Seaworthy wooden-floor Hypalon dinghy that served well for twenty 
years.  As our season won’t start for a while yet (!), I’m looking forward to 
getting it out of the shipping crate and up to the boat… someday...

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Mar 2, 2017, at 2:14 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> For my 9'8" Achilles Rib I use a 50lb 15 horse 2 stroke merc. Garhauer motor 
> crane for outboard. Store Dink on fordeck. 
> Doug Mountjoy
> Pegasus
> LF38
> Port Orchard Yacht club. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
> Date: 3/2/17 10:05 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Fred Hazzard 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase
> 
> Another 29 pound 2 cycle motor is a Tohatsu or Nissan 3.5 hp.
> 
> My 4 hp Suzuki 2 cycle is 43 pounds and has the power to plane the 9 ft Avon 
> with one person aboard.
> 
> Fred Hazzard
> S/V Fury
> Portland, Or
> 
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> I'm at the age where motor light-weight is more important to me than dink 
> speed. I picked up two used Johnson/Evinrude 2 cycle 1.2HP(!) motors (~$300 
> each, often advertised as 2HP), and love the 28 lbs lift up to the rail. 
> They're fast enough for patient dinking on a 10" inflatable and an 8' Walker 
> Bay, and in larger waves I've added a little row power once or twice. Only 
> caveat is the carb jet is very tiny and easily clogged, so you need to add a 
> $5 autostore gasoline in-line filter as well as prefilter the fuel mix when 
> you fill the little tank (don't ask how I learned that)
> 
> Nate
> 
> C&C30-1
> Tartan 31
> 
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender 
> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
> in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters 
> but never really paid much attention to detail.  
> 
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to 
> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
> thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with 
> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the 
> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic 
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
> 
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors 
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
> 
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil" 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-02 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
For my 9'8" Achilles Rib I use a 50lb 15 horse 2 stroke merc. Garhauer motor 
crane for outboard. Store Dink on fordeck. Doug MountjoyPegasusLF38Port Orchard 
Yacht club. 


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 Original message From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
 Date: 3/2/17  10:05  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Fred Hazzard  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase 
Another 29 pound 2 cycle motor is a Tohatsu or Nissan 3.5 hp.
My 4 hp Suzuki 2 cycle is 43 pounds and has the power to plane the 9 ft Avon 
with one person aboard.
Fred HazzardS/V FuryPortland, Or
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
 wrote:
I'm at the age where motor light-weight is more important to me than dink 
speed. I picked up two used Johnson/Evinrude 2 cycle 1.2HP(!) motors (~$300 
each, often advertised as 2HP), and love the 28 lbs lift up to the rail. 
They're fast enough for patient dinking on a 10" inflatable and an 8' Walker 
Bay, and in larger waves I've added a little row power once or twice. Only 
caveat is the carb jet is very tiny and easily clogged, so you need to add a $5 
autostore gasoline in-line filter as well as prefilter the fuel mix when you 
fill the little tank (don't ask how I learned that)
Nate
C&C30-1Tartan 31
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender to 
now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters but 
never really paid much attention to detail.  
I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to set 
up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with perhaps 
a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the same 
design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic transportation.  No 
davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors should 
I be considering as I make my selection?
Regards,Bob McLaughlinC&C 110 "Blue Devil" 




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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-02 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
Another 29 pound 2 cycle motor is a Tohatsu or Nissan 3.5 hp.

My 4 hp Suzuki 2 cycle is 43 pounds and has the power to plane the 9 ft
Avon with one person aboard.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
Portland, Or

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm at the age where motor light-weight is more important to me than dink
> speed. I picked up two used Johnson/Evinrude 2 cycle 1.2HP(!) motors (~$300
> each, often advertised as 2HP), and love the 28 lbs lift up to the rail.
> They're fast enough for patient dinking on a 10" inflatable and an 8'
> Walker Bay, and in larger waves I've added a little row power once or
> twice. Only caveat is the carb jet is very tiny and easily clogged, so you
> need to add a $5 autostore gasoline in-line filter as well as prefilter the
> fuel mix when you fill the little tank (don't ask how I learned that)
>
> Nate
>
> C&C30-1
> Tartan 31
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a
>> tender to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay,
>> Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to
>> serve as a tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many
>> times on charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>>
>> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy
>> to set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early
>> in my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4
>> person capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor,
>> with perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of
>> the same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
>> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>>
>> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share
>> your thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What
>> factors should I be considering as I make my selection?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob McLaughlin
>> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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2017-03-02 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
I'm at the age where motor light-weight is more important to me than dink
speed. I picked up two used Johnson/Evinrude 2 cycle 1.2HP(!) motors (~$300
each, often advertised as 2HP), and love the 28 lbs lift up to the rail.
They're fast enough for patient dinking on a 10" inflatable and an 8'
Walker Bay, and in larger waves I've added a little row power once or
twice. Only caveat is the carb jet is very tiny and easily clogged, so you
need to add a $5 autostore gasoline in-line filter as well as prefilter the
fuel mix when you fill the little tank (don't ask how I learned that)

Nate

C&C30-1
Tartan 31

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a
> tender to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay,
> Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to
> serve as a tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many
> times on charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy
> to set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early
> in my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4
> person capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor,
> with perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of
> the same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I've had it one season,  you can take the tank off and just like your grill you 
get a small amount of propane escaping.  It does take engine oil so you can't 
lay it on one side.  The throttle arm/tiller bolt comes loose every so often 
but intend on adding some lock tight.  I imagine keeping in a locker would be 
fine.  I keep mine on that real when on the boat and take it home when not in 
use.  It's real easy to carry around.  And not having to deal with gas and 
premix is really nice.  Any time I ran out of gas with the last engine,  I 
smelled of gas the rest of the day,  I hate that! 


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 Original message From: Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
 Date: 3/1/17  5:26 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bob McLaughlin  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase 
Thanks Danny.  I've not really looked at motors yet but have seen the 
information on the Lehr propane models and was intrigued by their light weight, 
no need for gas/oil etc.  Can you share any more details on your experience 
with it?  How long have you had it?  Can you pull off the propane tank when its 
half empty and does that then allow you to stow it in a locker below or does it 
still have propane in the engine somewhere, lurking to escape into your bilge?
Bob
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  

  
  
Some years ago, I purchased a used. west marine, zodiac roll up
  at a yard sale and had an old 2hp kicker on it.  I used in the
  area you are moving to.  More specifically, on the wesport river
  where there was nearly always a 3 to 4 knot current (except slack
  tide).  It did the job for us.  Not nearly as effortlessly as a
  RIB but, it worked.  When I sold that boat the buyer offered to
  buy the roll up and I sold it.  So, As I was searching for the new
  boat I went into Ocean state job lot, A local chain, liquidation
  type place, where I had noticed they had sold some off brand PVC
  inflatable boats.  One 8'6 rollup and a 9'6 inflatable V hull,
  plywood floor.  I read and researched and researched and could
  find very little negative and a few positive write ups.  I opted
  for the latter and thought I should return it...  Well a waited
  too long for the return widow and kept it.  


After buying the new boat and launching, I finally unpacked,
  assembled and inflated the inflatable boat.  I couldn't be
  happier.  The boat held air all season and seemed comparable to
  any other boat on the dinghy dock.  I did end up buying a 2.5hp
  Lehr Propane powered OB for the back of it.  I love the propane
  option.  I use the same bottle for the grill and they can be
  changed out in less than a minute.  You motor till it dies,
  unscrew the expended bottle and screw in the new.  1 or 2 pulls
  and your off again.  It only weighs 35 lbs so putting it on the
  rail is pretty easy.
The roll up was hard to control through the water due the the flat,
soft bottom, the inflatable keel handles much better.  2.5 HP is
enough for us for now and the boat can take up to 8hp I think.  



The boat is called a Bestway Caspian Hydoforce Pro 110 and I paid
$450 for it.  The smaller one was $369 i believe.  I'm sure I'll get
at least a few more years out of it.  It was tied to the dingy dock
most of the summer and it still looks brand new.  The boat only
weighs about 65lbs.  So, I can pull up on deck without too much
effort and a spare halyard makes that even easier!



I'd love a RIB with a 10hp but, I don't have davits and the engine
is probably 100lbs.  So, the boat, davits an engine hoist...  your
looking at 7 - 10K all in.  I spent 450 for the boat and 950 for the
engine on sale at west marine.  I also had a bunch of WM gift cards
from family members that saved me another 300 so my out of pocket
was like under $1100 for the tender and motor!



Oh, and the boat came with big tubes, a pump, oars, and the nice
fill caps.  Again, I'm quite happy with the purchase.  I'm willing
to bet the boat was made in the same factory as some of the big name
boats.



Danny





On 3/1/2017 3:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via
  CnC-List wrote:



  Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake
where I had no need for a tender to now sailing on Narragansett
Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds,
etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender in
harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
charters but never really paid much attention to detail.  



I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people
  that is easy 

Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Go to Defender Industries warehouse sale at the end of March.  They have every 
model available at very competitive pricing.

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> On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender 
> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
> in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters 
> but never really paid much attention to detail.  
> 
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to 
> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
> thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with 
> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the 
> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic 
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
> 
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors 
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
> 
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil" 
> 
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2017-03-01 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Bob,
I used to have a 35-3, and had some "davits lite", whereby the side tube of the 
dinghy rested on some curved brackets that were attached by u-bolts to the 
stern rails.  We had a 9' WM wood floor / inflatable keel on them.  I no longer 
have the boat, but do have the brackets,  if they are any use to you rather 
than the beckoning dumpster (we are nearby in Newport).
Limitations; you need to remove the engine (the dinghy is stored on its side), 
and we never used them when sailing (the tubes ends could hit the water when 
heeled), but much easier end-of-day out-of-water storage than hoisting on deck 
or deflating.
I will also have a 10' Novurania RIB and trailer for sale in September, but I 
don't think that will fit...
Tim




On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM -0500, "Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List" 
 wrote:










Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender to 
now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters but 
never really paid much attention to detail.  
I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to set 
up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with perhaps 
a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the same 
design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic transportation.  No 
davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors should 
I be considering as I make my selection?
Regards,Bob McLaughlinC&C 110 "Blue Devil" 








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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Bob,

 

I have a Lehr 2.5 HP on a West Marine 10’-4” with inflatable bottom.  The 
combination won’t set a speed record but works fine for me.  The light weight 
(~37 lbs.) makes it easy to lift off the dinghy for storing on the stern rail.  
I tow the dinghy.  If you purchase the boat and motor together and don’t pay 
sales tax at time of purchase, there is no sales tax due to RI when you 
register it.   

 

The cylinder should be removed when not in use but I never had a problem 
leaving it on for short periods.  I do pull it off when stored on the stern 
rail or at the dinghy dock in Bristol.  The partially full cylinder can be put 
in your propane locker.  

 

There is no way to easily measure propane level.  I found that just before 
running out, the engine starts slowing down while at full throttle.  Usually, 
I’ll throttle back, make sure I’m in a safe location and let the cylinder 
empty.  The cylinders are interchangeable with my Magma grille.  I bought an 
adaptor so the cylinder can be used with as a backup for the galley range.

 

The engine starts and runs fine.  The paint job leaves something to be desired. 
 There are spots on the skeg  and propeller where the paint has blistered.  
Overall, I’m glad I bought the Lehr and would do it again.  No gasoline and 
winterizing the carburetor involves removing the cylinder.

 

Ron

 

 

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McLaughlin via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 5:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bob McLaughlin
Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

 

Thanks Danny.  I've not really looked at motors yet but have seen the 
information on the Lehr propane models and was intrigued by their light weight, 
no need for gas/oil etc.  Can you share any more details on your experience 
with it?  How long have you had it?  Can you pull off the propane tank when its 
half empty and does that then allow you to stow it in a locker below or does it 
still have propane in the engine somewhere, lurking to escape into your bilge?

 

Bob

 

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2017-03-01 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
I have a West Marine RU 260 Inflatable Sport Dinghy and a Nissan 2.5 hp 
outboard. They are both light and easily lifted onto the boat deck and outboard 
mount. The dinghy fits fine on the deck of my 33-2. We cruise on Lake Ontario 
and generally only use it for short trips in harbor or at anchor, so it suits 
us well. I don't think it would work well for longer trips or bigger water for 
the following reasons.
1. The pontoon is a little on the small side. When waves pick up, we get a 
little wet2. The slatted floor means the boat won't plane.3. The slatted floor 
can be a little fatiguing on your knees (you feel every wave)
Hope this helpsDougCeltic Knot85 33-2 c/b

 

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 3:26 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender to 
now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters but 
never really paid much attention to detail.  
I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to set 
up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with perhaps 
a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the same 
design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic transportation.  No 
davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors should 
I be considering as I make my selection?
Regards,Bob McLaughlinC&C 110 "Blue Devil" 



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2017-03-01 Thread ahycrace--- via CnC-List
Hypalon WILL last much longer that's why I went with an achilles. Be carefull 
to stay away from cheap boats made in China big problems.  I have an 8hp nisson 
that I take off with a removeable crane. I think its called a little boy crane 
when you are done with it it can be removed in about 2 min. and stored below. 
We tow the dink with no motor on it even in some rough stuff no problems. 
Nantucket ,Boston ,the Vinyard, Block Is. etc.

  Gary  
"Liberty"
 "Della Barba wrote: 
> Hypalon will last much longer in the sun, but some of the imported PVC boats 
> are cheap enough you could go through 2 or 3 and still come out ahead.
> BTW – I would NEVER have my 75 pound 15 HP outboard if I intended it to come 
> off the dinghy more than once a year. That is something you need to contend 
> with when using a pure inflatable, you really won’t want to tow it far with 
> the engine on it.
> 
> Joe
> Coquina
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 17:37
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: Dennis C. 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase
> 
> Two words:  Hypalon and thermoweld.
> 
> I had a glued inflatable years ago.  It essentially fell apart.  Most today 
> are thermowelded but do the research.  Hypalon seems to get better reviews.
> 
> I have a 9'6" Achilles.  It works well.  Not too hard to inflate/assemble.  
> We store it on the foredeck or tow it when we're actively cruising.  Not hard 
> to lift with a halyard and cabin top winch.  Downside is it covers the solar 
> vent.  :(
> 
> I have a 1980's vintage Evinrude 7.5.  It's overkill and heavy.  Lift it 
> on/off the dinghy with a halyard.  Not too hard if you know what you're 
> doing.  If I had extra $$, I'd sell the 7.5 and buy a small Tohatsu 2.5 or 3 
> hp.  Past few years, the 7.5 has stayed home and we just rowed.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender 
> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
> in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters 
> but never really paid much attention to detail.
> 
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to 
> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
> thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with 
> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the 
> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic 
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
> 
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors 
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
> 
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List
Hi Joe.  Very interesting, I've not heard of or seen inflatables from
Azzurro Mare.  Very good price point from the "usual suspects" pricing.
Have you any first hand experience with them?  I was looking at Hypalon as
it seems to make a lighter boat, plus I read somewhere that the PVC was
prone to issues with gasoline- especially not good with the air floor where
any spill can get under the floor, hard to be noticed/cleaned up.  I do
like the idea of the lighter weight of the old 2 cycle engines.  The trick
there is finding a used one that's reliable.

Bob

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I love my Avon 340 RIB and 15 HP engine. That will not due for you if it
> needs to fit in your car though unless you buy a trailer.
>
> I have always thought if I headed offshore and needed to be able to
> deflate a dinghy, I would go here:
>
> http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable-boats.asp
>
>
>
> I like this one:
>
> http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable-boat-am365.asp
>
>
>
> IMHO you need to make a choice with your engine: You are going to be a
> planning boat or not. If you don’t care about speed, look on Craigslist and
> a 2-3 hp old 2-stroke. You can pick them up with one finger, they are easy
> to store onboard or in your car, and don’t leak oil all over the place if
> placed at the wrong angle.
>
> Joe
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob
> McLaughlin via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 17:16
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Bob McLaughlin 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase
>
>
>
> Hi Andy.  Thank you.  One problem for me is storage of the boat when not
> in use.  There's a long wait list for both the Bristol YC dinghy dock as
> well as the Town of Bristol, so I'll need to deflate it and take it home or
> store it aboard when its not needed, so I think the boat and motor your
> buddy has won't fit the bill for me.  Maybe a good deal for someone else on
> the list?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric
> start Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the
> aluminum. He towed it with his Tartan 3500.
> I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to
> you, if you like
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just
> got a new one great boat. Tows very good.
> > nothing but good things to say about it.
> >
> > Gary Kolc
> >  "Liberty"
> >   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)
> >
> >  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  wrote:
> >> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a
> tender
> >> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard
> and
> >> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
> >> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times
> on
> >> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
> >>
> >> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is
> easy to
> >> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early
> in
> >> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4
> person
> >> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
> >> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of
> the
> >> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> >> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
> >>
> >> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share
> your
> >> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
> >> should I be considering as I make my selection?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Bob McLaughlin
> >> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
> >
> >
> &g

Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Hypalon will last much longer in the sun, but some of the imported PVC boats 
are cheap enough you could go through 2 or 3 and still come out ahead.
BTW – I would NEVER have my 75 pound 15 HP outboard if I intended it to come 
off the dinghy more than once a year. That is something you need to contend 
with when using a pure inflatable, you really won’t want to tow it far with the 
engine on it.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 17:37
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

Two words:  Hypalon and thermoweld.

I had a glued inflatable years ago.  It essentially fell apart.  Most today are 
thermowelded but do the research.  Hypalon seems to get better reviews.

I have a 9'6" Achilles.  It works well.  Not too hard to inflate/assemble.  We 
store it on the foredeck or tow it when we're actively cruising.  Not hard to 
lift with a halyard and cabin top winch.  Downside is it covers the solar vent. 
 :(

I have a 1980's vintage Evinrude 7.5.  It's overkill and heavy.  Lift it on/off 
the dinghy with a halyard.  Not too hard if you know what you're doing.  If I 
had extra $$, I'd sell the 7.5 and buy a small Tohatsu 2.5 or 3 hp.  Past few 
years, the 7.5 has stayed home and we just rowed.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender to 
now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters but 
never really paid much attention to detail.

I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to set 
up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with perhaps 
a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the same 
design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic transportation.  No 
davits, it will either be towed or stowed.

I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors should 
I be considering as I make my selection?

Regards,
Bob McLaughlin
C&C 110 "Blue Devil"



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2017-03-01 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Two words:  Hypalon and thermoweld.

I had a glued inflatable years ago.  It essentially fell apart.  Most today
are thermowelded but do the research.  Hypalon seems to get better reviews.

I have a 9'6" Achilles.  It works well.  Not too hard to inflate/assemble.
We store it on the foredeck or tow it when we're actively cruising.  Not
hard to lift with a halyard and cabin top winch.  Downside is it covers the
solar vent.  :(

I have a 1980's vintage Evinrude 7.5.  It's overkill and heavy.  Lift it
on/off the dinghy with a halyard.  Not too hard if you know what you're
doing.  If I had extra $$, I'd sell the 7.5 and buy a small Tohatsu 2.5 or
3 hp.  Past few years, the 7.5 has stayed home and we just rowed.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a
> tender to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay,
> Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to
> serve as a tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many
> times on charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy
> to set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early
> in my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4
> person capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor,
> with perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of
> the same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>
>
>
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2017-03-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I love my Avon 340 RIB and 15 HP engine. That will not due for you if it needs 
to fit in your car though unless you buy a trailer.
I have always thought if I headed offshore and needed to be able to deflate a 
dinghy, I would go here:
http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable-boats.asp

I like this one:
http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable-boat-am365.asp

IMHO you need to make a choice with your engine: You are going to be a planning 
boat or not. If you don’t care about speed, look on Craigslist and a 2-3 hp old 
2-stroke. You can pick them up with one finger, they are easy to store onboard 
or in your car, and don’t leak oil all over the place if placed at the wrong 
angle.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob 
McLaughlin via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 17:16
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bob McLaughlin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

Hi Andy.  Thank you.  One problem for me is storage of the boat when not in 
use.  There's a long wait list for both the Bristol YC dinghy dock as well as 
the Town of Bristol, so I'll need to deflate it and take it home or store it 
aboard when its not needed, so I think the boat and motor your buddy has won't 
fit the bill for me.  Maybe a good deal for someone else on the list?

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric start 
Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the aluminum. He 
towed it with his Tartan 3500.
I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to you, 
if you like

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>
> Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just got a 
> new one great boat. Tows very good.
> nothing but good things to say about it.
>
> Gary Kolc
>  "Liberty"
>   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)
>
>  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender
>> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and
>> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
>> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
>> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>>
>> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to
>> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in
>> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person
>> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
>> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the
>> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
>> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>>
>> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
>> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
>> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob McLaughlin
>> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>
>
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2017-03-01 Thread Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List
Thanks Danny.  I've not really looked at motors yet but have seen the
information on the Lehr propane models and was intrigued by their light
weight, no need for gas/oil etc.  Can you share any more details on your
experience with it?  How long have you had it?  Can you pull off the
propane tank when its half empty and does that then allow you to stow it in
a locker below or does it still have propane in the engine somewhere,
lurking to escape into your bilge?

Bob

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Some years ago, I purchased a used. west marine, zodiac roll up at a yard
> sale and had an old 2hp kicker on it.  I used in the area you are moving
> to.  More specifically, on the wesport river where there was nearly always
> a 3 to 4 knot current (except slack tide).  It did the job for us.  Not
> nearly as effortlessly as a RIB but, it worked.  When I sold that boat the
> buyer offered to buy the roll up and I sold it.  So, As I was searching for
> the new boat I went into Ocean state job lot, A local chain, liquidation
> type place, where I had noticed they had sold some off brand PVC inflatable
> boats.  One 8'6 rollup and a 9'6 inflatable V hull, plywood floor.  I read
> and researched and researched and could find very little negative and a few
> positive write ups.  I opted for the latter and thought I should return
> it...  Well a waited too long for the return widow and kept it.
>
> After buying the new boat and launching, I finally unpacked, assembled and
> inflated the inflatable boat.  I couldn't be happier.  The boat held air
> all season and seemed comparable to any other boat on the dinghy dock.  I
> did end up buying a 2.5hp Lehr Propane powered OB for the back of it.  I
> love the propane option.  I use the same bottle for the grill and they can
> be changed out in less than a minute.  You motor till it dies, unscrew the
> expended bottle and screw in the new.  1 or 2 pulls and your off again.  It
> only weighs 35 lbs so putting it on the rail is pretty easy.
> The roll up was hard to control through the water due the the flat, soft
> bottom, the inflatable keel handles much better.  2.5 HP is enough for us
> for now and the boat can take up to 8hp I think.
>
> The boat is called a Bestway Caspian Hydoforce Pro 110 and I paid $450 for
> it.  The smaller one was $369 i believe.  I'm sure I'll get at least a few
> more years out of it.  It was tied to the dingy dock most of the summer and
> it still looks brand new.  The boat only weighs about 65lbs.  So, I can
> pull up on deck without too much effort and a spare halyard makes that even
> easier!
>
> I'd love a RIB with a 10hp but, I don't have davits and the engine is
> probably 100lbs.  So, the boat, davits an engine hoist...  your looking at
> 7 - 10K all in.  I spent 450 for the boat and 950 for the engine on sale at
> west marine.  I also had a bunch of WM gift cards from family members that
> saved me another 300 so my out of pocket was like under $1100 for the
> tender and motor!
>
> Oh, and the boat came with big tubes, a pump, oars, and the nice fill
> caps.  Again, I'm quite happy with the purchase.  I'm willing to bet the
> boat was made in the same factory as some of the big name boats.
>
> Danny
>
>
> On 3/1/2017 3:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a
> tender to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay,
> Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to
> serve as a tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many
> times on charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy
> to set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early
> in my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4
> person capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor,
> with perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of
> the same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List
Hi Andy.  Thank you.  One problem for me is storage of the boat when not in
use.  There's a long wait list for both the Bristol YC dinghy dock as well
as the Town of Bristol, so I'll need to deflate it and take it home or
store it aboard when its not needed, so I think the boat and motor your
buddy has won't fit the bill for me.  Maybe a good deal for someone else on
the list?

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric
> start Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the
> aluminum. He towed it with his Tartan 3500.
> I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to
> you, if you like
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> > On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just
> got a new one great boat. Tows very good.
> > nothing but good things to say about it.
> >
> > Gary Kolc
> >  "Liberty"
> >   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)
> >
> >  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  wrote:
> >> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a
> tender
> >> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard
> and
> >> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
> >> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times
> on
> >> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
> >>
> >> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is
> easy to
> >> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early
> in
> >> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4
> person
> >> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
> >> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of
> the
> >> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> >> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
> >>
> >> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share
> your
> >> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
> >> should I be considering as I make my selection?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Bob McLaughlin
> >> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
> >
> >
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Every dinghy is a compromise, but IMO an 8' - 6" with inflatable floor and
keel and 2-3.5 hp is the best of all worlds.

You will appreciate the smaller / lighter engine every time you have to put
it on or take if off the boat. We have a 4hp 2-stroke, which is much
lighter than a 4hp 4-stroke, and still I wish it were a bit lighter and
easier to take off/put on. No one will be happy with you if you are moving
around an anchorage faster than a 2 hp can manage anyway. For stowing on
deck or rolling up for a locker you can't beat it.

No one should be towing anything offshore and davits on a pretty C&C 110
would break my heart. 2 cents of course.

KD

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:20 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Some years ago, I purchased a used. west marine, zodiac roll up at a yard
> sale and had an old 2hp kicker on it.  I used in the area you are moving
> to.  More specifically, on the wesport river where there was nearly always
> a 3 to 4 knot current (except slack tide).  It did the job for us.  Not
> nearly as effortlessly as a RIB but, it worked.  When I sold that boat the
> buyer offered to buy the roll up and I sold it.  So, As I was searching for
> the new boat I went into Ocean state job lot, A local chain, liquidation
> type place, where I had noticed they had sold some off brand PVC inflatable
> boats.  One 8'6 rollup and a 9'6 inflatable V hull, plywood floor.  I read
> and researched and researched and could find very little negative and a few
> positive write ups.  I opted for the latter and thought I should return
> it...  Well a waited too long for the return widow and kept it.
>
> After buying the new boat and launching, I finally unpacked, assembled and
> inflated the inflatable boat.  I couldn't be happier.  The boat held air
> all season and seemed comparable to any other boat on the dinghy dock.  I
> did end up buying a 2.5hp Lehr Propane powered OB for the back of it.  I
> love the propane option.  I use the same bottle for the grill and they can
> be changed out in less than a minute.  You motor till it dies, unscrew the
> expended bottle and screw in the new.  1 or 2 pulls and your off again.  It
> only weighs 35 lbs so putting it on the rail is pretty easy.
> The roll up was hard to control through the water due the the flat, soft
> bottom, the inflatable keel handles much better.  2.5 HP is enough for us
> for now and the boat can take up to 8hp I think.
>
> The boat is called a Bestway Caspian Hydoforce Pro 110 and I paid $450 for
> it.  The smaller one was $369 i believe.  I'm sure I'll get at least a few
> more years out of it.  It was tied to the dingy dock most of the summer and
> it still looks brand new.  The boat only weighs about 65lbs.  So, I can
> pull up on deck without too much effort and a spare halyard makes that even
> easier!
>
> I'd love a RIB with a 10hp but, I don't have davits and the engine is
> probably 100lbs.  So, the boat, davits an engine hoist...  your looking at
> 7 - 10K all in.  I spent 450 for the boat and 950 for the engine on sale at
> west marine.  I also had a bunch of WM gift cards from family members that
> saved me another 300 so my out of pocket was like under $1100 for the
> tender and motor!
>
> Oh, and the boat came with big tubes, a pump, oars, and the nice fill
> caps.  Again, I'm quite happy with the purchase.  I'm willing to bet the
> boat was made in the same factory as some of the big name boats.
>
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> On 3/1/2017 3:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a
> tender to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay,
> Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to
> serve as a tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many
> times on charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy
> to set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early
> in my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4
> person capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor,
> with perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of
> the same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
A friend has an almost new 9.5' aluminum inflatable with a 15 hp electric start 
Honda at my place that he's looking to sell. I really like the aluminum. He 
towed it with his Tartan 3500. 
I really like it. I'll be back a week on Monday and be happy to show it to you, 
if you like

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 16:19, ahycrace--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just got a 
> new one great boat. Tows very good.
> nothing but good things to say about it.
> 
> Gary Kolc
>  "Liberty"
>   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)
> 
>  Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  wrote: 
>> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender
>> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and
>> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
>> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
>> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
>> 
>> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to
>> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in
>> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person
>> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
>> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the
>> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
>> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
>> 
>> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
>> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
>> should I be considering as I make my selection?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob McLaughlin
>> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
> 
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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Jack Brennan via CnC-List
If you’re not using davits, you have to factor in how well the inflatable fits 
on your foredeck for inflating/deflating as well as carrying it on short day 
trips. Towing slows you down and gets dicey when the seas pick up.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Tierra Verde, Fl.



From: Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 3:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bob McLaughlin
Subject: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender to 
now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters but 
never really paid much attention to detail.

I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to set 
up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with perhaps 
a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the same 
design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic transportation.  No 
davits, it will either be towed or stowed.

I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors should 
I be considering as I make my selection?

Regards,
Bob McLaughlin
C&C 110 "Blue Devil"






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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Some years ago, I purchased a used. west marine, zodiac roll up at a 
yard sale and had an old 2hp kicker on it.  I used in the area you are 
moving to.  More specifically, on the wesport river where there was 
nearly always a 3 to 4 knot current (except slack tide).  It did the job 
for us.  Not nearly as effortlessly as a RIB but, it worked.  When I 
sold that boat the buyer offered to buy the roll up and I sold it.  So, 
As I was searching for the new boat I went into Ocean state job lot, A 
local chain, liquidation type place, where I had noticed they had sold 
some off brand PVC inflatable boats.  One 8'6 rollup and a 9'6 
inflatable V hull, plywood floor.  I read and researched and researched 
and could find very little negative and a few positive write ups.  I 
opted for the latter and thought I should return it...  Well a waited 
too long for the return widow and kept it.


After buying the new boat and launching, I finally unpacked, assembled 
and inflated the inflatable boat.  I couldn't be happier.  The boat held 
air all season and seemed comparable to any other boat on the dinghy 
dock.  I did end up buying a 2.5hp Lehr Propane powered OB for the back 
of it.  I love the propane option.  I use the same bottle for the grill 
and they can be changed out in less than a minute.  You motor till it 
dies, unscrew the expended bottle and screw in the new.  1 or 2 pulls 
and your off again.  It only weighs 35 lbs so putting it on the rail is 
pretty easy.


The roll up was hard to control through the water due the the flat, soft 
bottom, the inflatable keel handles much better.  2.5 HP is enough for 
us for now and the boat can take up to 8hp I think.


The boat is called a Bestway Caspian Hydoforce Pro 110 and I paid $450 
for it.  The smaller one was $369 i believe.  I'm sure I'll get at least 
a few more years out of it.  It was tied to the dingy dock most of the 
summer and it still looks brand new.  The boat only weighs about 65lbs.  
So, I can pull up on deck without too much effort and a spare halyard 
makes that even easier!


I'd love a RIB with a 10hp but, I don't have davits and the engine is 
probably 100lbs.  So, the boat, davits an engine hoist...  your looking 
at 7 - 10K all in.  I spent 450 for the boat and 950 for the engine on 
sale at west marine.  I also had a bunch of WM gift cards from family 
members that saved me another 300 so my out of pocket was like under 
$1100 for the tender and motor!


Oh, and the boat came with big tubes, a pump, oars, and the nice fill 
caps.  Again, I'm quite happy with the purchase.  I'm willing to bet the 
boat was made in the same factory as some of the big name boats.


Danny


On 3/1/2017 3:24 PM, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List wrote:
Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a 
tender to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, 
Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable 
to serve as a tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used 
them many times on charters but never really paid much attention to 
detail.


I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is 
easy to set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a 
roll-up.  Early in my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" 
Achillies LSI-260: 4 person capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 
64 lbs, inflatable floor, with perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe 
the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the same design..) I don't think I 
need a boat to plane, just basic transportation.  No davits, it will 
either be towed or stowed.


I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share 
your thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What 
factors should I be considering as I make my selection?


Regards,
Bob McLaughlin
C&C 110 "Blue Devil"




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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread ahycrace--- via CnC-List
Achillies 9.6  had one that lasted over 20 yrs bought it used !! Just got a new 
one great boat. Tows very good.
nothing but good things to say about it.

 Gary Kolc
  "Liberty"
   Apponaug Harbor (East Greenwich Bay)

 Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  wrote: 
> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender
> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and
> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
> tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
> charters but never really paid much attention to detail.
> 
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to
> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in
> my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person
> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the
> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
> 
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
> 
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"


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Re: Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Harry Hallgring Jr via CnC-List
Bob,
I have West Marine 9 foot model with the four panel wood floor. I have a 3.5 hp 
tohatsu outboard. It works well for me in the areas you intend on sailing. It's 
light enough to put up on a dinghy rack by myself at Sail Newport. 

Harry
MIRAGE
Newport, Rhode Island
Sent from my iPhone 8 beta

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 15:24, Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender 
> to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and 
> Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a tender 
> in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on charters 
> but never really paid much attention to detail.  
> 
> I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to 
> set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in my 
> thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person 
> capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with 
> perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the 
> same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic 
> transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.
> 
> I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your 
> thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors 
> should I be considering as I make my selection?
> 
> Regards,
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil" 
> 
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Stus-List Input on inflatable dinghy purchase

2017-03-01 Thread Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List
Relocating our C&C 110 from a Midwest lake where I had no need for a tender
to now sailing on Narragansett Bay, LI Sound, Buzzard's Bay, Vineyard and
Nantucket Sounds, etc, I'm in need of a basic inflatable to serve as a
tender in harbors without a launch service.  I've used them many times on
charters but never really paid much attention to detail.

I'm looking for something relatively compact for 2-4 people that is easy to
set up and collapse and stow, so I think that's best a roll-up.  Early in
my thinking, I'm eyeing something like the 8'6" Achillies LSI-260: 4 person
capacity/820lbs, Hypalon, overall weight 64 lbs, inflatable floor, with
perhaps a ~4-5HP outboard. (Or maybe the 9'6" or 10'2" LSI versions of the
same design..) I don't think I need a boat to plane, just basic
transportation.  No davits, it will either be towed or stowed.

I welcome input from those of you with inflatable experience to share your
thoughts on brands, material, features, design, size, etc.  What factors
should I be considering as I make my selection?

Regards,
Bob McLaughlin
C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
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