Stus-List Re: Chandleries

[Doug via CnC-List]

During my search for bottom paint last summer. I found that west marine was the 
cheapest. Sometimes by more than $100/gal. They offer free shipping to a local 
store, where you go pick it up. I use their price matching to save money on 
other items that are way over priced. Doug Mountjoy sv Rebecca Leah C & C 
Landfall 39Port Orchard Yacht club
 Original message From: Don Kern via CnC-List 
 Date: 3/12/23  14:50  (GMT-06:00) To: Novabraid via 
CnC-List  Cc: Don Kern  Subject: 
Stus-List Re: Chandleries 
For the last 20 years, every March, about four of us locals, use to
make an annual pilgrimage to Defender and if needed would do a 5
min. run to Jamestown Dist. With cut backs at Defender and the
closing of Jamestown's walk in store, those days are gone.

Chuck, I have found Hamilton's prices for bottom paint are quite
good.  Below I have attached my vendor list which is mostly slanted
to the NE:

Don Kern
C Mk2, Fireball
Bristol, RI

General 
Defender   https://defender.com/en_us/
Fisheries Supply   https://www.fisheriessupply.com/
Hamilton Marine  https://hamiltonmarine.com/
Hodges Marine   https://www.hodgesmarine.com
Jamestown Distributors   https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/home
West Marine   https://www.westmarine.com/
Wholesale Marine   https://www.wholesalemarine.com/
Electronics /Electrical
Garmin   https://www.garmin.com/en-US/
Greg’s Marine Wire Supply   https://gregsmarinewiresupply.com/
  
Hodges Marine   https://www.hodgesmarine.com
  
Raymarine   https://www.raymarine.com/en-us
  
The GPS Store   thegpsstore.com


 Navigation Software
            Maptech  
  https://www.richardsonscharts.com/
            The GPS Store   thegpsstore.com
              USCG/NOAA Charts   
https://www.charts.noaa.gov/InteractiveCatalog/nrnc.shtml
Paint
Bottom Paint Store  
bottompaintstore.com
Interlux   https://www.interlux.com/en/us/
Rigging
Garhauer Marine   https://www.garhauermarine.com/
Harken   https://www.harken.com/en/home/
Newport Rigging Group   https://www.newportrigginggroup.com/
New England Ropes  
https://www.neropes.com/ClubLevelRacing.aspx
Rig-Rite
  Inc.   https://www.rigrite.com/
Samson   https://www.samsonrope.com/index.cfm?page=1=1
Schaeher Hardware   http://schaeferhardware.com/

Other
Atkins & Hoyle Ltd (hatches)   https://www.atkinshoyle.com/
Edson Marine   https://edsonmarine.com/shop/sailboat-steering/pedestals/ 
Moyer Marine (Atomic 4)   https://moyermarine.com/
South Shore Yachts (C parts)   https://southshoreyachts.com/
   
         The Zinc Guy   https://www.boatzincs.com/index.html


  
  On 3/12/2023 1:51 PM, Novabraid via CnC-List wrote:


  
  
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Having been a supplier to many marine
  chandleries over the past 20+ years while working for Edson
  and now Novabraid, there’s definitely been some decline in
  quality retail access in the past 24 months.  Surprisingly
  many of these issues came in the wake of a huge surge in
  retail boat and accessory sales during and just after the
  height of the pandemic and may boat supply businesses had
  record sales during this period, despite some of the supply
  chain challenges that occurred.   Perhaps those business
  owners are taking their profits to the bank and streamlining
  their sales channels to avoid bankruptcy if a recession
  occurs.   Obviously, prices are rising as a function of
  inflation and transportation costs and many retail business
  struggle to find qualified employees.  West Marine was
  renowned for hiring retirees who would work part time to get
  the employee discount but I think most of those folks have
  weighed anchor and retired for good.  My nephew has been an
  assistant manager at a West Marine for several years and
  they’ve been forced to scale back to a 5 day work week as they
  only h

Stus-List Re: Chandleries

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Chuck, I wanted to thank you for the insight on the chandleries...it is so 
helpful to have the "inside" view of these places; due to my location I rely on 
internet for almost all purchases and I have no way to compare one from 
another, except for my own purchases.  I would love to be able to go to one of 
the retail outlets! Thanks for sharing! 
 
Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1085 C 37, Ohio River, mile 596 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Novabraid via CnC-List 
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: csgilchr...@comcast.net
Sent: Sun, Mar 12, 2023 1:51 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Chandleries

Having been a supplier to many marine 
chandleries over the past 20+ years while working for Edson and now Novabraid, 
there’s definitely been some decline in quality retail access in the past 24 
months.  Surprisingly many of these issues came in the wake of a huge surge in 
retail boat and accessory sales during and just after the height of the 
pandemic and may boat supply businesses had record sales during this period, 
despite some of the supply chain challenges that occurred.   Perhaps those 
business owners are taking their profits to the bank and streamlining their 
sales channels to avoid bankruptcy if a recession occurs.   Obviously, prices 
are rising as a function of inflation and transportation costs and many retail 
business struggle to find qualified employees.  West Marine was renowned for 
hiring retirees who would work part time to get the employee discount but I 
think most of those folks have weighed anchor and retired for good.  My nephew 
has been an assistant manager at a West Marine for several years and they’ve 
been forced to scale back to a 5 day work week as they only had two employees 
for the entire store, a manager and an assistant.Defender, unfortunately is 
going through a rather difficult transition under new ownership and most of my 
sailing friends are struggling with their new website.  They’re currently 
remodeling the retail outlet, downsizing display areas and relying far more on 
their phone customer service team to help with product applications rather than 
their in store counter help.  I’ve been told it will be up to speed in a few 
weeks, but this is the start of boat prep season in New England and the 
Northeast so they could not have picked a worse time to shut down the retail 
store.One outlet that folks haven’t mentioned is Hamilton Marine up in Maine.  
They’ve got a pretty comprehensive product selection and pricing is typically a 
bit less than you’ll find at West Marine.  5 store locations as well.  Not a 
super discount place, but their staff is pretty seasoned without much turnover. 
 You probably won’t find the latest and greatest new Harken carbon fiber maxi 
yacht winches there, but for hardware, bottom paint, and mooring chain, they do 
just fine.And there’s always the local “head of the harbor” marine store at the 
hometown boatyard.  Yes, you’ll pay more for that bottom paint, but giving them 
some business on the retail side means they’re more likely to have the water 
pump impeller you need when your boat starts overheating the day before you 
leave on your summer cruise.Have a great season, y’all,Chuck GilchrestS/V Half 
Magic1983 Landfall 35Padanaram, MA 
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[Don Kern via CnC-List]

For the last 20 years, every March, about four of us locals, use to make 
an annual pilgrimage to Defender and if needed would do a 5 min. run to 
Jamestown Dist. With cut backs at Defender and the closing of 
Jamestown's walk in store, those days are gone.


Chuck, I have found Hamilton's prices for bottom paint are quite good.  
Below I have attached my vendor list which is mostly slanted to the NE:


Don Kern
C Mk2, Fireball
Bristol, RI

General

Defender https://defender.com/en_us/ 

Fisheries Supplyhttps://www.fisheriessupply.com/ 



Hamilton Marinehttps://hamiltonmarine.com/

Hodges Marinehttps://www.hodgesmarine.com 

Jamestown Distributorshttps://www.jamestowndistributors.com/home 



West Marinehttps://www.westmarine.com/ 

Wholesale Marine https://www.wholesalemarine.com/

Electronics /Electrical

Garminhttps://www.garmin.com/en-US/ 

Greg’s Marine Wire Supplyhttps://gregsmarinewiresupply.com/ 



Hodges Marinehttps://www.hodgesmarine.com 

Raymarinehttps://www.raymarine.com/en-us 

The GPS Storethegpsstore.com 

Navigation Software
            Maptechhttps://www.richardsonscharts.com/ 


            The GPS Storethegpsstore.com 
            USCG/NOAA 
Chartshttps://www.charts.noaa.gov/InteractiveCatalog/nrnc.shtml 



Paint

Bottom Paint Storebottompaintstore.com 

Interluxhttps://www.interlux.com/en/us/ 

Rigging

Garhauer Marinehttps://www.garhauermarine.com/ 



Harkenhttps://www.harken.com/en/home/ 

Newport Rigging Group https://www.newportrigginggroup.com/ 



New England Ropeshttps://www.neropes.com/ClubLevelRacing.aspx 



Rig-Rite Inc. https://www.rigrite.com/

Samson https://www.samsonrope.com/index.cfm?page=1=1 



Schaeher Hardwarehttp://schaeferhardware.com/ 

Other

Atkins & Hoyle Ltd (hatches)https://www.atkinshoyle.com/

Edson Marinehttps://edsonmarine.com/shop/sailboat-steering/pedestals/ 



Moyer Marine (Atomic 4)https://moyermarine.com/

South Shore Yachts (C parts)https://southshoreyachts.com/ 



       The Zinc Guyhttps://www.boatzincs.com/index.html



On 3/12/2023 1:51 PM, Novabraid via CnC-List wrote:


Having been a supplier to many marine chandleries over the past 20+ 
years while working for Edson and now Novabraid, there’s definitely 
been some decline in quality retail access in the past 24 months. 
 Surprisingly many of these issues came in the wake of a huge surge in 
retail boat and accessory sales during and just after the height of 
the pandemic and may boat supply businesses had record sales during 
this period, despite some of the supply chain challenges that 
occurred.   Perhaps those business owners are taking their profits to 
the bank and streamlining their sales channels to avoid bankruptcy if 
a recession occurs.   Obviously, prices are rising as a function of 
inflation and transportation costs and many retail business struggle 
to find qualified employees.  West Marine was renowned for hiring 
retirees who would work part time to get the employee discount but I 
think most of those folks have weighed anchor and retired for good.  
My nephew has been an assistant manager at a West Marine for several 
years and they’ve been forced to scale back to a 5 day work week as 
they only had two employees for the entire store, a manager and an 
assistant.


Defender, unfortunately is going through a rather difficult transition 
under new ownership and most of my sailing friends are struggling with 
their new website. They’re currently remodeling the retail outlet, 
downsizing display areas and relying far more on their phone customer 
service team to help with product applications rather than their in 
store counter help.  I’ve been told it will be up to speed in a few 
weeks, but this is the start of boat prep season in New England and 
the Northeast so they could not have picked a worse time to shut down 
the retail store.


One outlet that folks haven’t mentioned is Hamilton Marine up in 
Maine.  They’ve got a pretty comprehensive product selection and 
pricing is typically a bit less than you’ll find at West Marine.  5 
store locations as well.  Not a super discount place, but their staff 
is pretty seasoned without much turnover.  You probably won’t 

Stus-List Re: Chandleries

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I forgot to mention Mauripro.  They're good for replacement parts for my
Lewmar genoa car system and hard to find Harken parts.  Not cheap but good
customer service.

For some rigging and other stuff, I use a local shop in New Orleans, Sea
Chest Marine.  http://www.seachestdistributors.com/  They made the
replacement cable for Touche's steering system a couple years ago when I
rebuilt it.
-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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[Novabraid via CnC-List]

Having been a supplier to many marine chandleries over the past 20+ years while 
working for Edson and now Novabraid, there’s definitely been some decline in 
quality retail access in the past 24 months.  Surprisingly many of these issues 
came in the wake of a huge surge in retail boat and accessory sales during and 
just after the height of the pandemic and may boat supply businesses had record 
sales during this period, despite some of the supply chain challenges that 
occurred.   Perhaps those business owners are taking their profits to the bank 
and streamlining their sales channels to avoid bankruptcy if a recession 
occurs.   Obviously, prices are rising as a function of inflation and 
transportation costs and many retail business struggle to find qualified 
employees.  West Marine was renowned for hiring retirees who would work part 
time to get the employee discount but I think most of those folks have weighed 
anchor and retired for good.  My nephew has been an assistant manager at a West 
Marine for several years and they’ve been forced to scale back to a 5 day work 
week as they only had two employees for the entire store, a manager and an 
assistant.

Defender, unfortunately is going through a rather difficult transition under 
new ownership and most of my sailing friends are struggling with their new 
website.  They’re currently remodeling the retail outlet, downsizing display 
areas and relying far more on their phone customer service team to help with 
product applications rather than their in store counter help.  I’ve been told 
it will be up to speed in a few weeks, but this is the start of boat prep 
season in New England and the Northeast so they could not have picked a worse 
time to shut down the retail store.

One outlet that folks haven’t mentioned is Hamilton Marine up in Maine.  
They’ve got a pretty comprehensive product selection and pricing is typically a 
bit less than you’ll find at West Marine.  5 store locations as well.  Not a 
super discount place, but their staff is pretty seasoned without much turnover. 
 You probably won’t find the latest and greatest new Harken carbon fiber maxi 
yacht winches there, but for hardware, bottom paint, and mooring chain, they do 
just fine.

And there’s always the local “head of the harbor” marine store at the hometown 
boatyard.  Yes, you’ll pay more for that bottom paint, but giving them some 
business on the retail side means they’re more likely to have the water pump 
impeller you need when your boat starts overheating the day before you leave on 
your summer cruise.

Have a great season, y’all,

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 11:27 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Chandleries

 

Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been going 
after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been pretty 
pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look too good - 

 


  downgraded Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We 
view the transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive 
less value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,” 
S wrote.>>

 

I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.

 

Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine, etc?  I 
can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even Fishermen's supply 
is not that great anymore.

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada Erie, PA 

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[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Yes, and I think this was probably the big advantage that the old Defender
had over West Marine. With the exception of some of the main yachting
centers, if you would go into any West Marine store, which for me would be
either Cleveland or Buffalo, You could spray a paintball machine gun around
the store and not hit a soul. It's always nice to be able to go through
these stores and browse, but I'm sure that West Marine lost a shitload of
money on them. Probably still is. Sad to say, that online is probably the
only viable approach anymore. I think another problem with the marine
industry is the layers of distribution that add percentages on percentages
to the cost. Some of these layers have been removed in the last 40 years,
but it is still a burden.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Sat, Mar 11, 2023, 15:19 John Read via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I seem to recall Jamestown closed their store and are now 100% on line
> only??? If so not sure impact on service,  price etc.
> John Read
> Legacy III
> Noank CT
> 1982 C 34
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:34 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Jamestown Distributors has always given me great service. I haven't
>> compared their prices for a while but they were in line with other places
>> or lower. They have their own brand called Total Boat, which is very good,
>> unlike most West Marine brands.
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI
>> USA 02840
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>
>> phone  +401 965 5260
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has
>>> been going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has
>>> been pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't
>>> look too good -
>>>
>>> <>> 
>>> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
>>> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
>>> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
>>> S wrote.>>
>>>
>>> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>>>
>>> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
>>> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
>>> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>>>
>>> Bill Coleman
>>> Entrada Erie, PA
>>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
>>> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
>>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> Stu
>>
>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
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>> Stu
>
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
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[David Risch via CnC-List]

Retail store in Bristol is closed.

From: John Read via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2023 3:18 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: John Read 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Chandleries

I seem to recall Jamestown closed their store and are now 100% on line only??? 
If so not sure impact on service,  price etc.
John Read
Legacy III
Noank CT
1982 C 34

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:34 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Jamestown Distributors has always given me great service. I haven't compared 
their prices for a while but they were in line with other places or lower. They 
have their own brand called Total Boat, which is very good, unlike most West 
Marine brands.
Andy


Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
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On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been going 
after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been pretty 
pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look too good -

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 Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the 
transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less 
value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,” S 
wrote.>>

I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.

Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine, etc?  I 
can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even Fishermen's supply 
is not that great anymore.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie, PA
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[John Read via CnC-List]

I seem to recall Jamestown closed their store and are now 100% on line
only??? If so not sure impact on service,  price etc.
John Read
Legacy III
Noank CT
1982 C 34

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:34 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jamestown Distributors has always given me great service. I haven't
> compared their prices for a while but they were in line with other places
> or lower. They have their own brand called Total Boat, which is very good,
> unlike most West Marine brands.
> Andy
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been
>> going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been
>> pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look
>> too good -
>>
>> <> 
>> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
>> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
>> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
>> S wrote.>>
>>
>> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>>
>> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
>> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
>> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>> Entrada Erie, PA
>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
>> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Stu
>
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[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Dennis, you noted that the diesel lubricity additive you use is from Tractor 
Supply; what brand and any particulars?  Would you recommend that additive for 
any diesel (or at least any Yanmar...)?

 Thanks!
Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
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-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Sent: Fri, Mar 10, 2023 1:07 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Chandleries

Vendors I sometimes use, right or wrong:
bottompaintstore.com
thezincguy.com, boatzincs,com
https://gregsmarinewiresupply.com/

Hodges Marine
For electronics:  thegpsstore.com
Fisheries Supply
Jamestown Distributors
eBay, Amazon and, strangely enough, the diesel lubricity additive I use I buy 
at Tractor Supply.  :)
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[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Our club has a group discount at Fisheries that I am happy to share.  
The more it is used the deeper the discounts go.  The actual discount 
amount varies from item to item.  But, in some areas it can be 
significant.  They also give a 10% discount for the first 90 day you own 
your boat.


Call in a mention Quartermaster Yacht Club and have them set up an 
account for you that is tied to the club discount.


The only other chandlery I can recommend is Hodges Marine. 
https://www.hodgesmarine.com/   They beat Fisheries and pretty much 
anywhere else on marine electronics including Raymarine.


Tom B


On 3/10/2023 8:36 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List wrote:
I like Fisheries Supply in Seattle https://www.fisheriessupply.com/. 
You can get on their email list, and get notified about special sales, 
or just search their website.


Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


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[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Vendors I sometimes use, right or wrong:

bottompaintstore.com

thezincguy.com, boatzincs,com

https://gregsmarinewiresupply.com/

Hodges Marine

For electronics:  thegpsstore.com

Fisheries Supply

Jamestown Distributors

eBay, Amazon and, strangely enough, the diesel lubricity additive I use I
buy at Tractor Supply.  :)

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:27 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been
> going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been
> pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look
> too good -
>
> < 
> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
> S wrote.>>
>
> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>
> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie, PA
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[hans mhans.com via CnC-List]

There is still Defender. Though, their website is not as technologically up to 
date as Fisheries Supply. But, to be honest, I will always pay more to support 
our local joints if they have what I need. Easy for me to say, since we are 
fortunate to still have a few to chose from here in NYC.

~Hans
Corvette 31 #138, Inconceivable
Brooklyn, NY

On Mar 10, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

and BOE Marine and the GPS Store for electronics.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:53 AM Joel Aronson 
mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Fawcett Boat in Annapolis is always less than West and has free shipping on 
most orders over $99.  They also have more sailing gear than the local West.  I 
use a Port Supply discount at West.  It varies from 5% to 60% depending on the 
item.

Joel

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:39 AM Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Bill,
Over the past several years I have found that Wholesale Marine is the lowest 
price for bottom paint.

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/

They typically have a paint sale or rebate offer right about now.  I see that 
VC17 is on sale now.

Otherwise, I look around and have used a number of different online retailers.  
The retailer depends on what I am looking for.

I haven't purchased anything from Defender in quite a while, but used to.  
Didn't know they were acquired -- explains the prices.  I purchase from West 
only when I need something quick or want to put my hands on it to examine 
before purchase.  Turned out the new fuel tank I put in last year was offered  
lowest price at West.  Never know. There is a store near me.

Jeff Laman
81 C "Harmony"
Ludington, MI

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 11:27 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Chandleries

Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been going 
after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been pretty 
pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look too good -


 Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the 
transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less 
value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,” S 
wrote.>>

I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.

Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine, etc?  I 
can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even Fishermen's supply 
is not that great anymore.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie, PA
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[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

and BOE Marine and the GPS Store for electronics.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:53 AM Joel Aronson 
wrote:

> Fawcett Boat in Annapolis is always less than West and has free shipping
> on most orders over $99.  They also have more sailing gear than the local
> West.  I use a Port Supply discount at West.  It varies from 5% to 60%
> depending on the item.
>
> Joel
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:39 AM Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> Over the past several years I have found that Wholesale Marine is the
>> lowest price for bottom paint.
>>
>> https://www.wholesalemarine.com/
>>
>> They typically have a paint sale or rebate offer right about now.  I see
>> that VC17 is on sale now.
>>
>> Otherwise, I look around and have used a number of different online
>> retailers.  The retailer depends on what I am looking for.
>>
>> I haven't purchased anything from Defender in quite a while, but used
>> to.  Didn't know they were acquired -- explains the prices.  I purchase
>> from West only when I need something quick or want to put my hands on it to
>> examine before purchase.  Turned out the new fuel tank I put in last year
>> was offered  lowest price at West.  Never know. There is a store near me.
>>
>> Jeff Laman
>> 81 C "Harmony"
>> Ludington, MI
>> --
>> *From:* Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 11:27 AM
>> *To:* Stus-List 
>> *Cc:* Bill Coleman 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Chandleries
>>
>> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been
>> going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been
>> pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look
>> too good -
>>
>> <> 
>> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
>> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
>> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
>> S wrote.>>
>>
>> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>>
>> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
>> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
>> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>> Entrada Erie, PA
>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
>> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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>> Thanks for your help.
>> Stu
>>
>
>
> --
> Joel
>
>

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[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Fawcett Boat in Annapolis is always less than West and has free shipping on
most orders over $99.  They also have more sailing gear than the local
West.  I use a Port Supply discount at West.  It varies from 5% to 60%
depending on the item.

Joel

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:39 AM Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Bill,
> Over the past several years I have found that Wholesale Marine is the
> lowest price for bottom paint.
>
> https://www.wholesalemarine.com/
>
> They typically have a paint sale or rebate offer right about now.  I see
> that VC17 is on sale now.
>
> Otherwise, I look around and have used a number of different online
> retailers.  The retailer depends on what I am looking for.
>
> I haven't purchased anything from Defender in quite a while, but used to.
> Didn't know they were acquired -- explains the prices.  I purchase from
> West only when I need something quick or want to put my hands on it to
> examine before purchase.  Turned out the new fuel tank I put in last year
> was offered  lowest price at West.  Never know. There is a store near me.
>
> Jeff Laman
> 81 C "Harmony"
> Ludington, MI
> --
> *From:* Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 11:27 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Bill Coleman 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Chandleries
>
> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been
> going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been
> pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look
> too good -
>
> < 
> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
> S wrote.>>
>
> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>
> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie, PA
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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>


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[Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List]

Bill,
Over the past several years I have found that Wholesale Marine is the lowest 
price for bottom paint.

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/

They typically have a paint sale or rebate offer right about now.  I see that 
VC17 is on sale now.

Otherwise, I look around and have used a number of different online retailers.  
The retailer depends on what I am looking for.

I haven't purchased anything from Defender in quite a while, but used to.  
Didn't know they were acquired -- explains the prices.  I purchase from West 
only when I need something quick or want to put my hands on it to examine 
before purchase.  Turned out the new fuel tank I put in last year was offered  
lowest price at West.  Never know. There is a store near me.

Jeff Laman
81 C "Harmony"
Ludington, MI

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 11:27 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Chandleries

Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been going 
after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been pretty 
pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look too good -


 Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the 
transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less 
value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,” S 
wrote.>>

I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.

Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine, etc?  I 
can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even Fishermen's supply 
is not that great anymore.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie, PA
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[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I like Fisheries Supply in Seattle https://www.fisheriessupply.com/. You
can get on their email list, and get notified about special sales, or just
search their website.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 8:28 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been
> going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been
> pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look
> too good -
>
> < 
> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
> S wrote.>>
>
> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>
> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie, PA
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[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Jamestown Distributors has always given me great service. I haven't
compared their prices for a while but they were in line with other places
or lower. They have their own brand called Total Boat, which is very good,
unlike most West Marine brands.
Andy


Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been
> going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been
> pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look
> too good -
>
> < 
> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
> S wrote.>>
>
> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>
> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie, PA
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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