Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Steve, I know. That's why I am doing a stop-gap. Its a long run from the tank under the vee berth through the hanging locker to the deck. I am bidding on the new fitting on EBay so I have it in the fall. Joel On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > Sounds like replacing the fitting will mean replacing the hose too, a > bigger job. > When I removed the hose off of my fitting I had to destroy it to get it > off. Even if I didn't destroy it in the removal it would not have been > reusable. If yours is like mine it will be hardened by age and aside from > being nearly impossible to remove will likely be impossible to get back > onto a new fitting. > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Colin Kilgour > wrote: > >> Note to Joel: Going forward, try to pump out at least once a year. >> (Thank goodness for the Y-valve!) >> >> ;-) >> >> Cheers >> Colin >> >> >> On 8/6/13, Dennis C. wrote: >> > Rick, >> > >> > That's what I would do but Joel will have a LOT more fun trying to get >> the >> > damn thing unscrewed. :) >> > >> > Dennis C. >> > Touche' 35-1 #83 >> > Mandevile, LA >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> From: Rick Brass >> >>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:42 PM >> >>Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Joel; >> >> >> >>By the time you make a deck key and get the old cap out, you will >> probably >> >> have the same expense and even more labor invested than if you replaced >> >> the deck fitting completely. >> >> >> >>A new stainless steel deck fitting complete with a new deck key is >> $9.99 on >> >> E-Bay (plus shipping from New Jersey). >> >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Deck-fill-Fitting-Waste-/300944956668?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4611b79cfc&vxp=mtr >> >> >> >>So for $16 and the trouble of replacing 3 screws and a band clamp, plus >> a >> >> little 4200, you can be done with the whole thing on Saturday morning >> and >> >> go sailing. >> >> >> >>I’m probably the most frugal person there is when it comes to boat >> >> projects, but somehow the time and effort you are looking at to get the >> >> old cap out, plus the $8.99 cost of a new plastic cap, just doesn’t >> seem >> >> like it has much value compared to jut replacing the fitting. >> >> >> >> >> >>Rick Brass >> >>Washington, NC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel >> >> Aronson >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:07 PM >> >>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >>Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >> >> >> >>Dennis, >> >> >> >>What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. >> >> >> >>I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. >> >> >> >>On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: >> >>Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to >> >> make a new bigger deck key. >> >> >> >>B >> >> >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: >> >>Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that >> would >> >> hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. >> >>> >> >>>I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two >> holes >> >>> for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held >> as >> >>> horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from >> one >> >>> hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the >> >>> threads with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! >> >>>-- >> >>>Jonathan >> >>>Indigo C&C 35III >> >>>SOUTHPORT CT >> >>> >> >>>On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: >> >>>Keith, >> >>>> >> >>>&
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Sounds like replacing the fitting will mean replacing the hose too, a bigger job. When I removed the hose off of my fitting I had to destroy it to get it off. Even if I didn't destroy it in the removal it would not have been reusable. If yours is like mine it will be hardened by age and aside from being nearly impossible to remove will likely be impossible to get back onto a new fitting. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Colin Kilgour wrote: > Note to Joel: Going forward, try to pump out at least once a year. > (Thank goodness for the Y-valve!) > > ;-) > > Cheers > Colin > > > On 8/6/13, Dennis C. wrote: > > Rick, > > > > That's what I would do but Joel will have a LOT more fun trying to get > the > > damn thing unscrewed. :) > > > > Dennis C. > > Touche' 35-1 #83 > > Mandevile, LA > > > > > > > >>____ > >> From: Rick Brass > >>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > >>Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:42 PM > >>Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck > >> > >> > >> > >>Joel; > >> > >>By the time you make a deck key and get the old cap out, you will > probably > >> have the same expense and even more labor invested than if you replaced > >> the deck fitting completely. > >> > >>A new stainless steel deck fitting complete with a new deck key is $9.99 > on > >> E-Bay (plus shipping from New Jersey). > >> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Deck-fill-Fitting-Waste-/300944956668?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4611b79cfc&vxp=mtr > >> > >>So for $16 and the trouble of replacing 3 screws and a band clamp, plus a > >> little 4200, you can be done with the whole thing on Saturday morning > and > >> go sailing. > >> > >>I’m probably the most frugal person there is when it comes to boat > >> projects, but somehow the time and effort you are looking at to get the > >> old cap out, plus the $8.99 cost of a new plastic cap, just doesn’t seem > >> like it has much value compared to jut replacing the fitting. > >> > >> > >>Rick Brass > >>Washington, NC > >> > >> > >> > >>From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel > >> Aronson > >>Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:07 PM > >>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > >>Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck > >> > >>Dennis, > >> > >>What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. > >> > >>I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. > >> > >>On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > >>Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to > >> make a new bigger deck key. > >> > >>B > >> > >>Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: > >>Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would > >> hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. > >>> > >>>I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes > >>> for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as > >>> horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from > one > >>> hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the > >>> threads with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! > >>>-- > >>>Jonathan > >>>Indigo C&C 35III > >>>SOUTHPORT CT > >>> > >>>On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: > >>>Keith, > >>>> > >>>>The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a > much > >>>> larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. > >>>> Its still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from > >>>> getting where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to > >>>> be nylon or plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and > fitting > >>>> to the off-season list. > >>>> > >>>>Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At > >>>> least I'm not there! > >>>> > >>>>Joel > >>>>35/3 > >>>>The Office > >>>>Annapolis > >&
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Note to Joel: Going forward, try to pump out at least once a year. (Thank goodness for the Y-valve!) ;-) Cheers Colin On 8/6/13, Dennis C. wrote: > Rick, > > That's what I would do but Joel will have a LOT more fun trying to get the > damn thing unscrewed. :) > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandevile, LA > > > >> >> From: Rick Brass >>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:42 PM >>Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >> >> >> >>Joel; >> >>By the time you make a deck key and get the old cap out, you will probably >> have the same expense and even more labor invested than if you replaced >> the deck fitting completely. >> >>A new stainless steel deck fitting complete with a new deck key is $9.99 on >> E-Bay (plus shipping from New Jersey). >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Deck-fill-Fitting-Waste-/300944956668?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4611b79cfc&vxp=mtr >> >>So for $16 and the trouble of replacing 3 screws and a band clamp, plus a >> little 4200, you can be done with the whole thing on Saturday morning and >> go sailing. >> >>I’m probably the most frugal person there is when it comes to boat >> projects, but somehow the time and effort you are looking at to get the >> old cap out, plus the $8.99 cost of a new plastic cap, just doesn’t seem >> like it has much value compared to jut replacing the fitting. >> >> >>Rick Brass >>Washington, NC >> >> >> >>From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel >> Aronson >>Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:07 PM >>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >> >>Dennis, >> >>What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. >> >>I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. >> >>On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: >>Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to >> make a new bigger deck key. >> >>B >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: >>Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would >> hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. >>> >>>I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes >>> for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as >>> horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one >>> hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the >>> threads with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! >>>-- >>>Jonathan >>>Indigo C&C 35III >>>SOUTHPORT CT >>> >>>On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: >>>Keith, >>>> >>>>The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much >>>> larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. >>>> Its still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from >>>> getting where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to >>>> be nylon or plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting >>>> to the off-season list. >>>> >>>>Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At >>>> least I'm not there! >>>> >>>>Joel >>>>35/3 >>>>The Office >>>>Annapolis >>>> >>>>On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR >>>> wrote: >>>>I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A >>>>new fitting was the answer. >>>>The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer >>>>gasses all that much. >>>>Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the >>>>deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. >>>>Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. >>>>Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck >>>>penetration correctly. >>>> >>>>-Keith >>>> >>>> >>>>-Original Message- >>>>From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] >>>>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM >>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-l
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Rick, That's what I would do but Joel will have a LOT more fun trying to get the damn thing unscrewed. :) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandevile, LA > > From: Rick Brass >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:42 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck > > > >Joel; > >By the time you make a deck key and get the old cap out, you will probably >have the same expense and even more labor invested than if you replaced the >deck fitting completely. > >A new stainless steel deck fitting complete with a new deck key is $9.99 on >E-Bay (plus shipping from New Jersey). >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Deck-fill-Fitting-Waste-/300944956668?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4611b79cfc&vxp=mtr > >So for $16 and the trouble of replacing 3 screws and a band clamp, plus a >little 4200, you can be done with the whole thing on Saturday morning and go >sailing. > >I’m probably the most frugal person there is when it comes to boat projects, >but somehow the time and effort you are looking at to get the old cap out, >plus the $8.99 cost of a new plastic cap, just doesn’t seem like it has much >value compared to jut replacing the fitting. > > >Rick Brass >Washington, NC > > > >From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson >Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:07 PM >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck > >Dennis, > >What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. > >I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. > >On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: >Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to make a >new bigger deck key. > >B > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: >Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would >hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. >> >>I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes for >>the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as >>horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one hole >>to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads with >>waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! >>-- >>Jonathan >>Indigo C&C 35III >>SOUTHPORT CT >> >>On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: >>Keith, >>> >>>The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much >>>larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its >>>still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting where >>>it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or >>>plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the >>>off-season list. >>> >>>Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least >>>I'm not there! >>> >>>Joel >>>35/3 >>>The Office >>>Annapolis >>> >>>On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR >>> wrote: >>>I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A >>>new fitting was the answer. >>>The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer >>>gasses all that much. >>>Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the >>>deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. >>>Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. >>>Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck >>>penetration correctly. >>> >>>-Keith >>> >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] >>>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM >>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>>Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >>> >>>The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner >>>wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring >>>is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, >>>inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >>> >>>Other less drastic ideas? >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Joel >>>301 541 8551 >>>___ >>>This List is provided by the C&C P
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Last fitting I had that got stuck got replaced after I got it loose and it got stuck AGAIN! Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck Joel; By the time you make a deck key and get the old cap out, you will probably have the same expense and even more labor invested than if you replaced the deck fitting completely. A new stainless steel deck fitting complete with a new deck key is $9.99 on E-Bay (plus shipping from New Jersey). http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Deck-fill-Fitting-Waste-/300944956668?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4611b79cfc&vxp=mtr So for $16 and the trouble of replacing 3 screws and a band clamp, plus a little 4200, you can be done with the whole thing on Saturday morning and go sailing. I'm probably the most frugal person there is when it comes to boat projects, but somehow the time and effort you are looking at to get the old cap out, plus the $8.99 cost of a new plastic cap, just doesn't seem like it has much value compared to jut replacing the fitting. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck Dennis, What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. mailto:capt...@yahoo.com>> wrote: Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to make a new bigger deck key. B Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo mailto:ind...@thethomsons.us>> wrote: Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>> wrote: Keith, The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the off-season list. Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least I'm not there! Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR mailto:keith.morgenst...@navy.mil>> wrote: I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A new fitting was the answer. The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer gasses all that much. Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck penetration correctly. -Keith -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com<mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. Other less drastic ideas? -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> -- Joel 301 541 8551 __
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
How did I forget eBay? Joel Aronson On Aug 6, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Rick Brass wrote: Joel; By the time you make a deck key and get the old cap out, you will probably have the same expense and even more labor invested than if you replaced the deck fitting completely. A new stainless steel deck fitting complete with a new deck key is $9.99 on E-Bay (plus shipping from New Jersey). http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Deck-fill-Fitting-Waste-/300944956668?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4611b79cfc&vxp=mtr So for $16 and the trouble of replacing 3 screws and a band clamp, plus a little 4200, you can be done with the whole thing on Saturday morning and go sailing. I’m probably the most frugal person there is when it comes to boat projects, but somehow the time and effort you are looking at to get the old cap out, plus the $8.99 cost of a new plastic cap, just doesn’t seem like it has much value compared to jut replacing the fitting. Rick Brass Washington, NC *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson *Sent:* Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:07 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck Dennis, What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to make a new bigger deck key. B Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: Keith, The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the off-season list. Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least I'm not there! Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR < keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote: I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A new fitting was the answer. The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer gasses all that much. Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck penetration correctly. -Keith -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. Other less drastic ideas? -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Joel; By the time you make a deck key and get the old cap out, you will probably have the same expense and even more labor invested than if you replaced the deck fitting completely. A new stainless steel deck fitting complete with a new deck key is $9.99 on E-Bay (plus shipping from New Jersey). http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Deck-fill-Fitting-Waste-/300944956668?pt=B oat_Parts_Accessories_Gear <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Deck-fill-Fitting-Waste-/300944956668?pt= Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4611b79cfc&vxp=mtr> &hash=item4611b79cfc&vxp=mtr So for $16 and the trouble of replacing 3 screws and a band clamp, plus a little 4200, you can be done with the whole thing on Saturday morning and go sailing. I'm probably the most frugal person there is when it comes to boat projects, but somehow the time and effort you are looking at to get the old cap out, plus the $8.99 cost of a new plastic cap, just doesn't seem like it has much value compared to jut replacing the fitting. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck Dennis, What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to make a new bigger deck key. B Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: Keith, The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the off-season list. Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least I'm not there! Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR wrote: I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A new fitting was the answer. The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer gasses all that much. Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck penetration correctly. -Keith -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. Other less drastic ideas? -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Ya'Know, you get a big enough lever and you are going to shear off those 3/16" fasteners - if they are like mine, anyway. By now you have probably already broken the seal to the deck, so just take the screws out and take the hose off and work on it in the shop, or better yet replace it. Sounds a little beat up now anyway. Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck Dennis, What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to make a new bigger deck key. B Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: Keith, The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the off-season list. Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least I'm not there! Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR wrote: I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A new fitting was the answer. The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer gasses all that much. Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck penetration correctly. -Keith -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. Other less drastic ideas? -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 <>___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Maybe 1/4 inch aluminum? The machine screws will have to be really short so they don't bend. For a quick and dirty strong deck key, try a pair of needle nose pliers.with a big screwdriver between the jaws. Dennis C. > > From: Joel Aronson >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:06 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck > > > >Dennis, > > >What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. > > >I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. > > > >On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > >Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to make a >new bigger deck key. >> >> >>B >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: >> >> >>Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would >>hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. >>> >>> >>>I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes for >>>the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as >>>horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one >>>hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads >>>with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! >>> >>> >>>--Jonathan >>>Indigo C&C 35III >>> >>>SOUTHPORT CT >>> >>>On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: >>> >>> >>>Keith, >>>> >>>> >>>>The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much >>>>larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its >>>>still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting >>>>where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or >>>>plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the >>>>off-season list. >>>> >>>> >>>>Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least >>>>I'm not there! >>>> >>>> >>>>Joel >>>>35/3 >>>>The Office >>>>Annapolis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A >>>>>new fitting was the answer. >>>>>The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer >>>>>gasses all that much. >>>>>Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the >>>>>deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. >>>>>Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. >>>>>Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck >>>>>penetration correctly. >>>>> >>>>>-Keith >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-Original Message- >>>>>From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] >>>>>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM >>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>>>>Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >>>>> >>>>>The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner >>>>>wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring >>>>>is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, >>>>>inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >>>>> >>>>>Other less drastic ideas? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Joel >>>>>301 541 8551 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>___ >>>>>This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>>>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Joel >>>>301 541 8551 >>>___ >>>>This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> >>___ >>>This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>___ >>This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > >-- >Joel >301 541 8551 >___ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > >___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Dennis, What sort of stock? It needs to be strong but drill-able. I cracked open the Y Valve to relieve any pressure. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to > make a new bigger deck key. > > B > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: > > Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would > hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. > > I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes > for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as > horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one > hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads > with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! > > -- > Jonathan > Indigo C&C 35III > SOUTHPORT CT > > On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: > > Keith, > > The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much > larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its > still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting > where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or > plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the > off-season list. > > Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least > I'm not there! > > Joel > 35/3 > The Office > Annapolis > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR < > keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote: > >> I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A >> new fitting was the answer. >> The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer >> gasses all that much. >> Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the >> deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. >> Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. >> Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck >> penetration correctly. >> >> -Keith >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >> >> The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner >> wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring >> is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, >> inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >> >> Other less drastic ideas? >> >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> > > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Get a piece of bar stock. Drill and tap two stainless machine screws to make a new bigger deck key. B Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Indigo wrote: > Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would > hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. > > I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes for > the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as > horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one hole > to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads with > waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! > > -- > Jonathan > Indigo C&C 35III > SOUTHPORT CT > > On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: > >> Keith, >> >> The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much >> larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its >> still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting where >> it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or >> plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the >> off-season list. >> >> Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least >> I'm not there! >> >> Joel >> 35/3 >> The Office >> Annapolis >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR >> wrote: >>> I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A >>> new fitting was the answer. >>> The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer >>> gasses all that much. >>> Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the >>> deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. >>> Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. >>> Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck >>> penetration correctly. >>> >>> -Keith >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >>> >>> The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner >>> wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring >>> is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, >>> inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >>> >>> Other less drastic ideas? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joel >>> 301 541 8551 >>> >>> ___ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Just a thought but could your vent be blocked causing pressure that would hinder opening of the cap? Taking off the inspection cover might help. I had a stuck holding tank cap a few years ago ( mine have the two holes for the wrench). I loosened it by tapping it with a screwdriver held as horizontal as I could in the holes and a mallet and alternating from one hole to the other. Once loose and each year therafter I grease the threads with waterproof grease or lanacote - whichever I have to hand! -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:00, Joel Aronson wrote: > Keith, > > The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much > larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its > still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting where > it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or plastic) > as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the off-season list. > > Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least > I'm not there! > > Joel > 35/3 > The Office > Annapolis > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR > wrote: >> I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A >> new fitting was the answer. >> The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer >> gasses all that much. >> Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the >> deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. >> Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. >> Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck >> penetration correctly. >> >> -Keith >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck >> >> The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner >> wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring >> is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, >> inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >> >> Other less drastic ideas? >> >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Keith, The hose is probably original (its red), so the stuck cap becomes a much larger project. When I used the hammer, the metal looked like bronze. Its still stuck. The O ring should be preventing the Blaster from getting where it needs to be. I ordered a replacement cap (appears to be nylon or plastic) as a temporary fix. Adding a new hose and fitting to the off-season list. Had the same issue on my Pearson, but that tank was overflowing. At least I'm not there! Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR < keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote: > I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A > new fitting was the answer. > The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer > gasses all that much. > Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the > deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. > Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. > Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck > penetration correctly. > > -Keith > > > -Original Message- > From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck > > The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner > wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring > is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, > inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. > > Other less drastic ideas? > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
I had an identical thing happen to me. A new cap was not the answer. A new fitting was the answer. The cap and fitting are both aluminum, which doesn't seem to like sewer gasses all that much. Since I was tossing the fitting, I think I just unscrewed it from the deck and slipped/pryed the hose off and removed it. Stuff a rag in the open end of the hose so you don't pass out. Then you get to fill the mounting holes with epoxy and do that deck penetration correctly. -Keith -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson [mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. Other less drastic ideas? -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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The fall. I opened the y valve to make sure it was not overflowing. Joel Aronson On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote: Joel, When was the last time you pumped out??? Jake *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 3:09 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck Bent one side of the spanner. It slips out unless there is a lot of pressure (a foot) on it. There was nothing unusual looking, so I did not take a photo. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: Got a picture? What happens with the spanner? Bend/break/slip out? Josh -- ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Joel, When was the last time you pumped out??? Jake From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck Bent one side of the spanner. It slips out unless there is a lot of pressure (a foot) on it. There was nothing unusual looking, so I did not take a photo. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: Got a picture? What happens with the spanner? Bend/break/slip out? Josh -- ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Didn't have a big enough hammer so that's next. Joel Aronson On Aug 5, 2013, at 6:12 PM, "Dennis C." wrote: > Joel, > > I'd drill the holes, insert bolts and use the breaker bar. When you install > the new cap, coat the threads with TefGel. > > Dennis C. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > >> The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I >> could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the >> Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and >> using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >> >> Other less drastic ideas? >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Joel, I'd drill the holes, insert bolts and use the breaker bar. When you install the new cap, coat the threads with TefGel. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I > could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the > Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and > using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. > > Other less drastic ideas? > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Ray, You're right, but I may get away with a new cap for the rest of the season. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, RAYMOND SHIBE wrote: > Joel, > After you get done flogging on the fitting it will probably be a chunk of > junk metal. You might save yourself aggravation by R/R the fitting. If its > corroded now it isn't going to get better. Might be time to replace the > hose since your are in the area. It's probably that ribbed hose that saves > some of the crap during pump out anyway. Good luck. > Ray Shibe > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Joel, After you get done flogging on the fitting it will probably be a chunk of junk metal. You might save yourself aggravation by R/R the fitting. If its corroded now it isn't going to get better. Might be time to replace the hose since your are in the area. It's probably that ribbed hose that saves some of the crap during pump out anyway. Good luck. Ray Shibe ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
I have found two of the same sized allen wrenches to be a really effective alternative to a spanner. Choose the size of allen wrench that fits the holes tightly. Short legs in the holes, long legs together and resting on the opposite short leg. Wire tire together for added stability. Add a long screwdriver or other pry instrument and you are set. Josh -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Aug 5, 2013 3:10 PM, "Joel Aronson" wrote: > Bent one side of the spanner. It slips out unless there is a lot of > pressure (a foot) on it. There was nothing unusual looking, so I did not > take a photo. > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: > >> Got a picture? What happens with the spanner? Bend/break/slip out? >> >> Josh >> >> -- >> When privacy matters. >> http://www.secure-my-email.com >> On Aug 5, 2013 2:10 PM, "Joel Aronson" wrote: >> >>> The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner >>> wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is >>> good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, >>> inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >>> >>> Other less drastic ideas? >>> >>> -- >>> Joel >>> 301 541 8551 >>> >>> ___ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Wal, Simple, yet effective! May give it a try. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > Joel - Bigger hammer? I don't mean to be flippant, but sometimes just > banging the living heck out of something with a hammer really works. I > keep a huge (like the biggest I have ever seen) flat blade screwdriver on > board. I've had deck fittings stick, and the spanner wrench just jumps > out of the holes. I've stuck that big screwdriver in the slot, and clamped > a crescent wrench down as tight as I can, and start tapping on the end of > the wrench with a hammer. Start with light taps, and then when you get > really frustrated just whale away. > > Wal > > > > > Joel Aronson wrote: > >> The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. >> > > > __**_ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Joel - Bigger hammer? I don't mean to be flippant, but sometimes just banging the living heck out of something with a hammer really works. I keep a huge (like the biggest I have ever seen) flat blade screwdriver on board. I've had deck fittings stick, and the spanner wrench just jumps out of the holes. I've stuck that big screwdriver in the slot, and clamped a crescent wrench down as tight as I can, and start tapping on the end of the wrench with a hammer. Start with light taps, and then when you get really frustrated just whale away. Wal Joel Aronson wrote: The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Bent one side of the spanner. It slips out unless there is a lot of pressure (a foot) on it. There was nothing unusual looking, so I did not take a photo. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: > Got a picture? What happens with the spanner? Bend/break/slip out? > > Josh > > -- > When privacy matters. > http://www.secure-my-email.com > On Aug 5, 2013 2:10 PM, "Joel Aronson" wrote: > >> The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner >> wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is >> good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, >> inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >> >> Other less drastic ideas? >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Got a picture? What happens with the spanner? Bend/break/slip out? Josh -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Aug 5, 2013 2:10 PM, "Joel Aronson" wrote: > The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench > I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, > the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting > bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. > > Other less drastic ideas? > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Sell the boat... On 8/5/13, Knowles Rich wrote: > Screwdriver or punch in a hole or slot as close to the perimeter as > possible. Hit it with a hammer to loosen the screw plug. > > RIch. > > On 2013-08-05, at 15:08, Joel Aronson wrote: > >> The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench >> I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, >> the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting >> bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. >> >> Other less drastic ideas? >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
Screwdriver or punch in a hole or slot as close to the perimeter as possible. Hit it with a hammer to loosen the screw plug. RIch. On 2013-08-05, at 15:08, Joel Aronson wrote: > The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I > could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the > Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and > using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. > > Other less drastic ideas? > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Waste fitting stuck
The aluminum waste deck fitting is stuck. Even with a good spanner wrench I could not budge it. I sprayed PB Blaster on it. If the O ring is good, the Blaster may not penetrate. I thought of drilling holes, inserting bolts and using a breaker bar and buying a new cap. Other less drastic ideas? -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
