Re: WYSIWYG XSLT Editors?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Robert Simmons dijo:
> Greetings,
>
> I have downloaded the evaluation version of eXcelon Stylus Studio and am
> enjoying it. What I wanted to know was who are their competitors for
> WYSIWYG XSLT editing and other XML editing. I would like to see as many
> products as I can before I decide on a purchase.

Well, you can see all the OpenOffice.org products as a big WYSIWYG XSLT
editing.

Antonio Gallardo
>
> -- Robert




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Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

[e nio]

  At one time there was the CTWIG as part of the samples I
believed or maybe it was a link on the getting started
documentation. Yes it would be nice for us newbies to start with
that and get acquainted with cocoon.  Anyhow here is the link
from Jeremy's site:
http://www.pigbite.co.uk/ctwig/blddocs/index.html

And if you do a search on the humongous cocoon source, you'd
find ctwig under documentation/xdocs/ctwig.  

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Compile only XMLForm Wizard sample or any two blocks - 2.1dev

[e nio]

  I'm only slightly familiar with Ant so am struggling on how to
build just one sample I need.  For example, I am interested in
building the XMLForm Wizard sample, what do I need to as a
minimum to build this?  When I built the whole 2.1dev with
installscratchpadwar, it took me a little while to find and
figure out that the XMLForm Wizard is on the
cocoon-samples-block.jar and not on the cocoon-samples.jar (did
several tar tvf ...). I had a hard time rummaging around
xml-cocoon2/build/cocoon/  what components are required to build
one particular sample.
  Is there a howto in let say building just this one particular
block? Perhaps this can be one of the selections in the
interactive menu someday. A good improvement I noticed was the
samples are much user friendlier now with the link to
Documentation pertaining to that particular sample.
   Perhaps bring back the CTWIG sample and make it as "start
here" for us newbies  as one poster alluded to earlier regarding
to get a very simple application working starting point.

Regards,
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Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?

[Robert Simmons]

Well, Actually I came from CORBA so EJB wasn't a big deal. I had "Hello World" up in 2 
hours. I'm looking for a front end to an
application that will be the core of a book I'm writing. The content of the book is 
all about the EJB side and I wanted a powerful
but fast front end. Doesn't look like I'm gonna get my wish. And Honestly I don't have 
a month to blow.

-- Robert

- Original Message -
From: "Geoff Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: The simplest possible cocoon application?


> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jeff Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Cocoon Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?
> >
> > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > > > I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss 3.0.4 server. It
> > > > works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an XML and an
> > > > XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction.
> > >
> > > Embedded stylesheets are very unusual.. are you sure it's
> > Cocoon applying
> > > the embedded stylesheet, or the web browser?
> >
> > Hmm, how could I tell? What would you use if you didnt embedd the
> > stylesheet into the XML? Oh, I get it, the pipeline tells it what
> > transform to make ?
> >
> > Addendum: I undeployed cocoon from jboss and the transform still
> > worked. Must be the browser doing it. OOK .. =) Now I feel like i
> > actually know LESS than before.
>
> Bingo.  My understanding is that Cocoon1 used/allowed embedded stylesheets
> but cocoon2 ignores them because they tie you to one view.
>
> > > > Ok so here is the question. I am now thinking of doing something a bit
> > > > more than static XML pages. What would be the bare minimum? Do I have
> > > > to copy the cocoon war and all the libs in it to another deployment or
> > > > can I use the jars already deployed in the war?
>
> Much of what ships with cocoon is optional - at this stage there is a
> "kitchen sink" philosophy for distribution: everything is turned on by
> default, every optional part is included by default.  Good for showcasing
> but obviously not needed for deployment.  The binary distributions will come
> like this, so you may want to consider building from source and specifying
> build properties so that only what you need is built.
>
> If you have a source distribution or cvs checkout, look in the lib directory
> and you'll see (at least) two directories.  Obviously everything in
> "optional" can be removed if it looks like something you don't need
> (probably a lot).  The old build system (2.0.3 and maybe 2.0.4) relied on
> the presence of those jars to determine what you wanted included.
>
> If you're using 2.1 dev, have a look at properties.xml in the main
> directory.  This is where build properties are specified.  Not sure if
> you're familiar with ant, but the way its properties work you can override
> those settings without modifying the file by including a .ant.properties
> file in that directory (or in your home directory) and those will take
> precedence.  Those files have a different format by the way.  Unfortunately,
> you can't undefine a property and the build in some places relies on the
> presence of a property to determine behavior (at least it used to) so there
> you'll be stuck modifying the original file.
>
> There is a new concept aimed at separating core elements from optional ones
> called "blocks".
> This provides even more ability to trim out unneeded elements, but I think
> it's only in 2.1 (although it may be in 2.0.4?).  properties.xml specifies
> which blocks to build.
>
> > >
> > > Each war has one main sitemap.  Each sitemap can have lots of different
> > > pipelines.  Where did the 'second war file' you mention come from?  Did
> > > you copy the sitemap and WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf from the Cocoon samples
> > > war?
> > >
> >
> > What I mean is that, if possible, I dont want to copy the whole
> > MASSIVE jar library in the cocoon distribution war into every
> > blasted web app that I create.
>
> Trimming the size of the webapp as described above will help, but also
> consider
> whether you need each to be a separate webapp, or can deploy them within one
> cocoon
> instance.  The cocoon concept of "mounted" sub-sitemaps get you a lot of
> what you'd
> want with separate webapps.  Maybe if you voice a few specific issues others
> can
> help figure out whether this solution will work for you.
>
> > The thing thats stumping the
> > newbie here is how a user uses it. It almost seems like i have to be
> > practically a dveloper on cocoon to use it. I honestly dont care
> > how it works, I just ultimately want to write come generators that
> > smack a EJB and spit out XML that then gets transformed.
>
> Well, that's pretty easy.  I'd suggest first starting with static xml files
> using the wiki page Jeff

Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?

[Jeff Turner]

On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:26:42AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeff Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Cocoon Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:02 AM
> Subject: Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?
> 
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > > I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss 3.0.4 server. It
> > > works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an XML and an
> > > XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction.
> >
> > Embedded stylesheets are very unusual.. are you sure it's Cocoon applying
> > the embedded stylesheet, or the web browser?
> 
> Hmm, how could I tell?

'view source' in your browser.  If you see XML, then it's the browser
rendering. If you see HTML, Cocoon is rendering.

> What would you use if you didnt embedd the stylesheet into the XML? Oh,
> I get it, the pipeline tells it what transform to make ?

Yes.  In the sitemap you'd have a pipeline like:


  
  
  


> Addendum: I undeployed cocoon from jboss and the transform still
> worked. Must be the browser doing it. OOK .. =)

:) What was the URL you were using?  Did it start with 'http:' or
'file:'?

> Now I feel like i actually know LESS than before.
> 
> >
> > > When I go to the URL inside the war and hit the XML page, the
> > > translation is made fine.
> > >
> > > Ok so here is the question. I am now thinking of doing something a bit
> > > more than static XML pages. What would be the bare minimum? Do I have
> > > to copy the cocoon war and all the libs in it to another deployment or
> > > can I use the jars already deployed in the war?
> >
> > Each war has one main sitemap.  Each sitemap can have lots of different
> > pipelines.  Where did the 'second war file' you mention come from?  Did
> > you copy the sitemap and WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf from the Cocoon samples
> > war?
> >
> 
> What I mean is that, if possible, I dont want to copy the whole MASSIVE
> jar library in the cocoon distribution war into every blasted web app
> that I create.

There's lots of jars but most of them aren't big.  I have lots of webapps
with ~8mb of jars in their WEB-INF/lib.  What you lose in disk space, you
gain in webapp portability.

But if you really want a common set of jars, you can put them in Tomcat
4.x's lib/common/ directory.

> The thing thats stumping the newbie here is how a user
> uses it. It almost seems like i have to be practically a dveloper on
> cocoon to use it. I honestly dont care how it works, I just ultimately
> want to write come generators that smack a EJB and spit out XML that
> then gets transformed. Basically what i have right now is a normal java
> servlet that builds a dom document, serializes it to xml and trusts the
> xsl transform to put out the html and so on. The servlet has a massive
> number of methods from all the commands being handeled. I want to nuke
> that servlet and instead write cocoon generators to spit out the xml
> and then let cocoon do its magic. However after 12 hours of reading, Im
> still a tad lost.


Cocoon is big and complex (as you've found out).  Assuming all you want
to do is an XSLT transform on the end of your servlet, and this is a
once-off job, I'd suggest just using a JSP taglib or something to query
the servlet and transform the result.  Some simpler alternatives to
Cocoon:

http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/standard-doc/intro.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/xtags-doc/intro.html
http://mav.sourceforge.net/
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jelly/

Also, remember you can make a single servlet *appear* to have multiple
URIs (one per command) with web.xml  sections and
request.getPathInfo().



If you want a gentle introduction to Cocoon, you could download Forrest:
http://xml.apache.org/forrest/  (essentially 'pre-packaged' Cocoon for
project docs).  Once installed,
you type:

mkdir myproj
cd myproj
forrest seed # Generates a template project, with sitemap
forrest webapp   # Generates a webapp from your template project
forrest run  # Runs webapp in a webserver

Then view the Cocoon site at http://localhost:/, and you can
experiment with the sitemap in build/webapp/sitemap.xmap.

...
> > Fortunately we have a Wiki where anyone can document things.  This
> > page looks quite relevant to your question:
> >
> 
> I will read it ... but I have to say that this looks liek a very
> powerful front end that once you know it, it is great. Prior to that
> there is ALLOT of head scratching. And I dont think im any lightweight
> at programmign either.

It's like a sledgehammer.. big, powerful, not suitable for all problems.

--Jeff

> > http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SimpleTransformations
> >
> >
> > --Jeff
> >
> > > -- Robert
> >
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> > Please check that your question  has not already been answered in the
> > FAQ before posting.

RE: The simplest possible cocoon application?

[Geoff Howard]

> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeff Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Cocoon Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:02 AM
> Subject: Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?
>
> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > > I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss 3.0.4 server. It
> > > works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an XML and an
> > > XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction.
> >
> > Embedded stylesheets are very unusual.. are you sure it's
> Cocoon applying
> > the embedded stylesheet, or the web browser?
>
> Hmm, how could I tell? What would you use if you didnt embedd the
> stylesheet into the XML? Oh, I get it, the pipeline tells it what
> transform to make ?
>
> Addendum: I undeployed cocoon from jboss and the transform still
> worked. Must be the browser doing it. OOK .. =) Now I feel like i
> actually know LESS than before.

Bingo.  My understanding is that Cocoon1 used/allowed embedded stylesheets
but cocoon2 ignores them because they tie you to one view.

> > > Ok so here is the question. I am now thinking of doing something a bit
> > > more than static XML pages. What would be the bare minimum? Do I have
> > > to copy the cocoon war and all the libs in it to another deployment or
> > > can I use the jars already deployed in the war?

Much of what ships with cocoon is optional - at this stage there is a
"kitchen sink" philosophy for distribution: everything is turned on by
default, every optional part is included by default.  Good for showcasing
but obviously not needed for deployment.  The binary distributions will come
like this, so you may want to consider building from source and specifying
build properties so that only what you need is built.

If you have a source distribution or cvs checkout, look in the lib directory
and you'll see (at least) two directories.  Obviously everything in
"optional" can be removed if it looks like something you don't need
(probably a lot).  The old build system (2.0.3 and maybe 2.0.4) relied on
the presence of those jars to determine what you wanted included.

If you're using 2.1 dev, have a look at properties.xml in the main
directory.  This is where build properties are specified.  Not sure if
you're familiar with ant, but the way its properties work you can override
those settings without modifying the file by including a .ant.properties
file in that directory (or in your home directory) and those will take
precedence.  Those files have a different format by the way.  Unfortunately,
you can't undefine a property and the build in some places relies on the
presence of a property to determine behavior (at least it used to) so there
you'll be stuck modifying the original file.

There is a new concept aimed at separating core elements from optional ones
called "blocks".
This provides even more ability to trim out unneeded elements, but I think
it's only in 2.1 (although it may be in 2.0.4?).  properties.xml specifies
which blocks to build.

> >
> > Each war has one main sitemap.  Each sitemap can have lots of different
> > pipelines.  Where did the 'second war file' you mention come from?  Did
> > you copy the sitemap and WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf from the Cocoon samples
> > war?
> >
>
> What I mean is that, if possible, I dont want to copy the whole
> MASSIVE jar library in the cocoon distribution war into every
> blasted web app that I create.

Trimming the size of the webapp as described above will help, but also
consider
whether you need each to be a separate webapp, or can deploy them within one
cocoon
instance.  The cocoon concept of "mounted" sub-sitemaps get you a lot of
what you'd
want with separate webapps.  Maybe if you voice a few specific issues others
can
help figure out whether this solution will work for you.

> The thing thats stumping the
> newbie here is how a user uses it. It almost seems like i have to be
> practically a dveloper on cocoon to use it. I honestly dont care
> how it works, I just ultimately want to write come generators that
> smack a EJB and spit out XML that then gets transformed.

Well, that's pretty easy.  I'd suggest first starting with static xml files
using the wiki page Jeff provided to get the basics of using the sitemap and
pipelines, then try building a  few simple generators following the tutorial
(http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/tutorial/tutorial-generator.html).  Then you
should be able to  use your EJBs in generators.

> Basically what i have right now is a normal java servlet that builds a dom
> document, serializes it to xml and trusts the xsl transform to
> put out the html and so on.

One option would be to reuse much of the existing code and use the dom in
your generator.  Cocoon2 is built around SAX though and you may get better
performance (and use less memory) by going that route.  If by serializing to
xml you mean it outputs a string, or character stream, you definitely want
to get tha

Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

[Robert Simmons]

That is the impression that I am getting and 
I'm curious as to feedback from list users. 
 
Basically my experience is one of confusion. I 
downloaded the war and deployed it. The samples and stuff deploy fine but now 
where does one go from there? The samples and tutorials are splattered all over 
the net. Users tell me to go to wiki (which is down allot or just really slow) 
to find information but its like hunting for an needle in a haystack. The 
default cocoon war contains thousands of files. What does one do to deploy a new 
application? copy the whole immense framework to a new jar? That seems overly 
complex for a user that just wants to generate some XML and some XSL and leap 
off to the races. Its almost like cocoon is buried under complexity. 

 
Now I am even being told that in order to use the 
product, I need to get it from CVS and do builds and so on. For the end user 
this is just not a viable option. They just want to fire off some XSP pages, 
some XML and drop it in a war and go. Some 12 hours after I started 
investigating this technology,  still have only a vague clue of what I 
would need to actually accomplish something. The content of the war is a big 
part of that problem. The word "overkill" immediately leaps to mind. For the new 
person to this technology, knowing what each thing does, is nearly impossible. 

 
I guess that's what it comes down to for me in the 
end. I started evaluating using cocoon to replace a static servlet that 
generates XML manually. The goal was to simplify things by using cocoon. I 
thought I could just transform that servlet into a cocoon generator, drop it in 
the right place and go. Doing a lengthy build process, configuration, decoding 
of what the MOUNTAIN of values in the MOUNTAIN of configuration files mean is 
just a waste of time for me.
 
In the end, I suppose I'm going to have to stick 
with the servlet strategy. as a professional developer, I don't have 2 weeks to 
waste figuring out how to get something working. You look at tomcat for example. 
The hello world is simple. You drop the minimal 3 class war in tomcat and away 
it goes. Intimate knowledge of tomcat is not necessary. In fact most users of 
tomcat authentically don't care about its implementation. 
 
So how could cocoon be of use to me and others like 
me? If I could build a war with simply any special classes I have (generators, 
etc) my XSL pages and a sitemap. Then I deploy that war and cocoon figures out 
how to wire things together. 
 
I guess I'm rambling a bit and I'm sorry. Its just 
frustrating to spend several hours on something and essentially get nowhere. 
Cocoon may be a powerful product, but it will never go mainstream in the web, 
imho, with its level of difficulty in understanding it. The death of XML 
based web publishing perhaps? Is this why JSP is taking over? Although a flawed 
paradigm, it allows the neophyte to drop a single hello-world.jsp into a tiny 
war with 2 deployment descriptors and go. This is the simplicity that the users 
of the product want. Fiddling around with the base core of the product you are 
using just isn't in the budget. 
 
Well, I will stop babbling now and look forward to 
comments. 
 
 

Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?

[Robert Simmons]

- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cocoon Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?


> On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss 3.0.4 server. It
> > works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an XML and an
> > XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction.
>
> Embedded stylesheets are very unusual.. are you sure it's Cocoon applying
> the embedded stylesheet, or the web browser?

Hmm, how could I tell? What would you use if you didnt embedd the stylesheet into the 
XML? Oh, I get it, the pipeline tells it what
transform to make ?

Addendum: I undeployed cocoon from jboss and the transform still worked. Must be the 
browser doing it. OOK .. =) Now I feel like i
actually know LESS than before.

>
> > When I go to the URL inside the war and hit the XML page, the
> > translation is made fine.
> >
> > Ok so here is the question. I am now thinking of doing something a bit
> > more than static XML pages. What would be the bare minimum? Do I have
> > to copy the cocoon war and all the libs in it to another deployment or
> > can I use the jars already deployed in the war?
>
> Each war has one main sitemap.  Each sitemap can have lots of different
> pipelines.  Where did the 'second war file' you mention come from?  Did
> you copy the sitemap and WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf from the Cocoon samples
> war?
>

What I mean is that, if possible, I dont want to copy the whole MASSIVE jar library in 
the cocoon distribution war into every
blasted web app that I create. The thing thats stumping the newbie here is how a user 
uses it. It almost seems like i have to be
practically a dveloper on cocoon to use it. I honestly dont care how it works, I just 
ultimately want to write come generators that
smack a EJB and spit out XML that then gets transformed. Basically what i have right 
now is a normal java servlet that builds a dom
document, serializes it to xml and trusts the xsl transform to put out the html and so 
on. The servlet has a massive number of
methods from all the commands being handeled. I want to nuke that servlet and instead 
write cocoon generators to spit out the xml
and then let cocoon do its magic. However after 12 hours of reading, Im still a tad 
lost.

> > Do sitemaps work outside of the cocoon war?
>
> No.  Wars are completely self-contained things.

Yes yes, I know this. But if I deploy 5 different WARs to the server, I dont want to 
have that HUGE library of jars in every war.

>
> > How can I set up a simple application, prior to considering generators,
> > outside of the cocoon deployment?
>
> What do you mean, 'outside' a deployment?

The issue with the jars is what I mean.

>
> > Note. The lack of truly newbie cocoon documentation is appalling.
>
> Fortunately we have a Wiki where anyone can document things.  This page
> looks quite relevant to your question:
>

I will read it ... but I have to say that this looks liek a very powerful front end 
that once you know it, it is great. Prior to
that there is ALLOT of head scratching. And I dont think im any lightweight at 
programmign either.

> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SimpleTransformations
>
>
> --Jeff
>
> > -- Robert
>
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Re: Using docbook chunk.xsl with cocoon

[Jeff Turner]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:45:43PM +1000, Jerome Paul wrote:
> Hi,
>   I'm trying to convert xml documents using
> docbook-xsl-1.58.1\html\chunk.xsl with tomcat 4.0 and cocoon 2.0.4
> windows 2000.  Anyway the conversion takes a while (it's converting a
> decent sized xml document) when the conversion stops Internet explorer
> displays nothing when using the standard html\docbook.xsl it work fine.
> I'm pretty sure that the error is with the chunk.xsl because it's been
> hardcoded to write to the hdd and the way it actually creates many web
> pages instead of a single page.  Has anyone else had this problem?
> what's the solution that other people have used?

Er.. what does chunk.xsl do?  The one on my hdd doesn't seem to write to
disk..

Would I be correct in guessing that chunk.xsl breaks a large Docbook file
into chapters or something?  If so, you could use the XPathTransformer in
Cocoon bugzilla to achieve the same thing.  that's how I generated the
chapter views of a single XML file user manual at:
http://aft.sourceforge.net/manual/

I can post details if that's the problem you're trying to solve.

--Jeff

> any help would be greatly appreciated 
> Jerome
> 

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Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?

[Jeff Turner]

On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote:
> I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss 3.0.4 server. It
> works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an XML and an
> XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction.

Embedded stylesheets are very unusual.. are you sure it's Cocoon applying
the embedded stylesheet, or the web browser?

> When I go to the URL inside the war and hit the XML page, the
> translation is made fine. 
> 
> Ok so here is the question. I am now thinking of doing something a bit
> more than static XML pages. What would be the bare minimum? Do I have
> to copy the cocoon war and all the libs in it to another deployment or
> can I use the jars already deployed in the war?

Each war has one main sitemap.  Each sitemap can have lots of different
pipelines.  Where did the 'second war file' you mention come from?  Did
you copy the sitemap and WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf from the Cocoon samples
war?

> Do sitemaps work outside of the cocoon war?

No.  Wars are completely self-contained things.

> How can I set up a simple application, prior to considering generators,
> outside of the cocoon deployment?

What do you mean, 'outside' a deployment?

> Note. The lack of truly newbie cocoon documentation is appalling. 

Fortunately we have a Wiki where anyone can document things.  This page
looks quite relevant to your question:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SimpleTransformations


--Jeff

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The simplest possible cocoon application?

[Robert Simmons]

I currently have the cocoon war installed on my 
JBoss 3.0.4 server. It works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an 
XML and an XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction. 
When I go to the URL inside the war and hit the XML page, the translation is 
made fine. 
 
Ok so here is the question. I am now thinking of 
doing something a bit more than static XML pages. What would be the bare 
minimum? Do I have to copy the cocoon war and all the libs in it to another 
deployment or can I use the jars already deployed in the war? Do sitemaps work 
outside of the cocoon war? How can I set up a simple application, prior to 
considering generators, outside of the cocoon deployment?
 
Note. The lack of truly newbie cocoon documentation 
is appalling. 
 
-- Robert

WYSIWYG XSLT Editors?

[Robert Simmons]

Greetings, 
 
I have downloaded the evaluation version of 
eXcelon Stylus Studio and am enjoying it. What I wanted to know was who are 
their competitors for WYSIWYG XSLT editing and other XML editing. I would like 
to see as many products as I can before I decide on a purchase. 
 
-- Robert

Question on Usability of Cocoon in a Distributed application.

[Robert Simmons]

Greetings. 
 
I currently have a distributed application that 
uses Session beans for most of its work. I am a cocoon user in that the session 
bean returns XML and then cocoon magically transforms it using XSL into the html 
that I want. In order to accomplish this, I have a servlet running that creates 
a DOM document, adds stuff to it, and spits it back out. So the user connects to 
the servlet, the action that they did is run on the session beans, then the data 
is returned from the session beans, including an xsl:stylesheet processing 
instruction, the data is transformed and the user gets a view. 
 
What I'm wondering is if I could cut out the 
middleman and drop the servlet altogether. The problem I currently have is that 
the servlet is occasionally serving requests that return pages that are no more 
than placeholders. For example, if I have a point where the user needs to "add 
and entry" than the servlet returns an empty tagged XML document which cocoon 
transforms into the form. The form is submitted and then the servlet actually 
does some work, contacting the EJB and validating the changes and so on. 

 
If I could have an alternative strategy, such as 
having XML documents for everything than things would go along much more 
swimmingly. 
 
Ideally, the form would be generated and the user 
hits "submit" to add his new entry. Then the submit hits another XML page which 
somehow contacts the EJB server, negotiates with the session bean and gets data 
back. Then it spits out the XML which is again transformed via XSL. I am 
wondering if this is possible.
 
Comments ?
 
(Note: The beans are running on JBoss 3.0.4 
currently as is cocoon and tomcat. Moving the logic of the application out of 
the session beans is just not an option. They do all the hard work and there is 
quite a bit of it. I'm looking to use cocoon for the entire PRESENTATION and 
client negotiating layer only.)
 
-- Robert

Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

[Josema Alonso]

Ivelin,

I'm trying to code your suggestions but I have problems and some doubts.

> 1) You can remove ArtistBean altogether
Done.

> 2) Store the empty id structure in a static file or local constant
Done.

> 3) Override the getForm() method in the action
Wouldn't it be enough to override the getFormModel() method?
Something like this:
  protected Object getFormModel() {
 //to load the XML model
 Container DOMModel = null;
 Source modelSrc = null;
   //this parameter holds the name of the xml file with the empty XML
structure
String modelFileName = getParameters().getParameter("xmlform-model",
null);
if(modelFileName==null) return null;
try {
 modelSrc = getSourceResolver().resolveURI(modelFileName);
  DOMModel = new XMLDocumentContainer(new
StreamSource(modelSrc.getInputStream()));
return DOMModel;
  }
  catch ( Exception e) {
throw new CascadingRuntimeException( " Failed instantiating form
model ", e );
  }
  finally {
getSourceResolver().release(modelSrc);
  }
  }

> 4) Use the JXPath DOMContainer to load the xml file(constant)
I have used XMLDocumentContainer. I see there's a DocumentContainer but only
present in JXPath 1.1 alpha and the jar file is still not included in
Cocoon, so I used the soon to be deprecated mentioned.
Btw, how could I extract a DOMNode from the root or an XML String so I could
store the whole structure afterwards? I see in 1.1alpha I could do something
like 'DocumentContainer.MODEL_DOM' but I guess in 1.0 I should get a
JXPathContext and search for the root node so I can get the String I need.
Am I right?

> 5) Use the DOMContainer object as the Form model
Ok. But where should I store it? In a separate file like the ArtistBean I
got before?
Or maybe would be enough to declare it and initialize it in the getForm() or
getFormModel() method?

> 6) When you need to reference a node in the model, instead of using the
DOM
> API, you can directly use XPath,
> like this: getForm().getValue("/@id")
At this stage I can only see the form and when trying to access the model I
get the following exception: 'Cannot setValue of an object that is not some
other object's property/child'

Sorry about all the questions but this is totally new for me and it is not
easy.

Best.





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RE: ChartTransformer and ESQL queries [WAS:[ ANNONUNCEMENT] ChartTransformer 0.0.4 released]

[Luca Morandini]

Rajasekhar,

you're the first reported ChartTransformer user: you won a free trip to Las Vegas !
Just kidding ;)

First: ChartTransformer was designed to use databse queries, and we managed to create 
hundreds of charts with it, hence, this is
possible.

Second: the problem most probably lies in the structure of the XML containing your 
data, coudl you give us an example of the input
given to ChartTransformer ?

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> Hi,
>
>
> I am trying to generate a bar graph and having problems.  If I have values
> hard-coded into the xml it generates fine, but am not able to get values
> dynamically and pass them.
>
> I am getting the values from database using esql queries and want to create
> graphs.  Any help on how to do this.
>
> Help much appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Raj
>
>
>
>
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RE: [ANNONUNCEMENT] ChartTransformer 0.0.4 released

[Rajasekhar Atchutuni]

Hi,


I am trying to generate a bar graph and having problems.  If I have values 
hard-coded into the xml it generates fine, but am not able to get values 
dynamically and pass them.

I am getting the values from database using esql queries and want to create 
graphs.  Any help on how to do this.

Help much appreciated.

Thanks
Raj





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Great work! Should be very useful in a lot of applications. I was thinking I
could use it to present a report of a database in a project I'm working on.

Mark

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>
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>
> 
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Action Not Adding Values to Sitemap or is it?

[Julian Klein]

Hi All,

I am trying to add a paramater to the sitemap through
an Action extended from the MultiAction Class, but
when I try to access it in my sitemap, it is empty.  I
am certain there should be a value coming out of the
Action b/c it prints the value to my log from inside
the action.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I
attached my Action code and sitemap code snippets.  I
am running Cocoon 2.1 dev and java 1.4 on Red Hat 8.0.
 The reason for the action is to get collection names
from the Xindice database, which translate to client's
of the webapp.

Thanks,
Julian


   

  
  

 







 



   

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  /*Places all the user's into a sitemap parameter.*/
public Map doAddSubjNodes (Redirector redirector,
   SourceResolver resolver,
   Map objectModel,
   String src,
   Parameters parameters) throws
Exception {

   
Request request =
ObjectModelHelper.getRequest(objectModel);
Map sitemapParams = new HashMap();

//determine dest of task to be created
String subjectNode =
parameters.getParameter("task-subject-node",
 
request.getParameter("task-subject-node"));

TaskManager taskManager = new TaskManager();
   
//get all available subjectNode's
String[] subjNodes =
taskManager.getSubjectNodes();
String subjStr = "";
//add all user's to sitemap
for(int x=0;x

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RE: [ANNONUNCEMENT] ChartTransformer 0.0.4 released

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Luca,

Great work! Should be very useful in a lot of applications. I was thinking I
could use it to present a report of a database in a project I'm working on.

Mark

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>
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>
> 
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Re: how to configure cocoon to spot sitemap changes without restarting

[Simon Price]

Thanks Jeff. Wiki is really useful.

I've also hit the cache related bug you mentioned today but having just
come back to cocoon I assumed it was something I'd done wrong :-)

Simon

> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:07:16PM +, Simon Price wrote:
> > I've not used cocoon for 3-4 months but I've just downloaded and got the
> > new 2.1 head running. There's some nice improvements - well done.
> >
> > Last time I used cocoon I had to make some changes in cocoon.xconf so
> > that any edits to the sitemap were detected without a restart. However,
> > the notes I made at the time no longer match what's now in xconf.
>
> I think that applies to the old compiled sitemap.  The interpreted
> sitemap in 2.1 reloads automatically (and quickly) when it is modified,
> without conf tweaks.
>
> Btw, if you're using CVS head, watch out for this bug:
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16248
>
> and also for "Attempted to retrieve component with null hint" errors..
> the sitemap sytax changed (eg. map:pipelines -> map:pipes) since 2.0.x.
>
> > Is there an up-to-date guide somewhere on how to configure cocoon for
> > development?
>
> There's a Wiki with lots of good stuff..
>
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp
>
>
> --Jeff
>
> > What are the best settings for caches, reloads etc. for easing development?
> >
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Changing Portal "Timeout" Period

[Rob Johnston]

Where is the default portal session "timeout" period specified in
cocoon?  I can't seem to find it anywhere.  Is it possible to disable
having a login session timeout without having to modify cocoon source?
Or at least modify it to be say, a week or so rather than 15 minutes or
whatever it seems to be?

And by session timeout, I mean, log into the portal, let it sit for 30
or so minutes, then attempt to click on another link -- you are dumped
back to the login screen as your session has timed out.

thanks,
rob

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RE: [ANNONUNCEMENT] ChartTransformer 0.0.4 released

[Luca Morandini]

Oh... I guess I slept too little this night :( 

Anyway, here it is: http://www.sidimar.ipzs.it/site/

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> Luca Morandini wrote:
> 
> > Folks,
> > 
> > me and the worthy Piero De Nicola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) would
> > like to announce you the first release (0.0.4) of a Cocoon 
> > transformer able to generate business charts (Bar, Area, Line, Pie,
> > ...) out of plain XML.
> 
> uhm... where can we find it, Luca? ;-)
> 
> 
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[ANNONUNCEMENT] ChartTransformer 0.0.4 released

[Luca Morandini]

Folks,

me and the worthy Piero De Nicola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) would like to announce 
you the first release (0.0.4) of a Cocoon
transformer able to generate business charts (Bar, Area, Line, Pie, ...) out of plain 
XML.

Some of you may remember me talking about it at the First Cocoon GetTogether in 
Ghent... well, now it's for real :)

Let me just point out that this wouldn't have been possible without some good men at 
the IPZS S.p.A (Istituto Poligrafico e Zecca
dello Stato), which let us make public a piece of software we wrote for a customer of 
theirs.

BTW, thanks to the Forrest team for letting us make so much doc in so little time :)

Enjoy ! And give us some feedback too !

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Re: how to configure cocoon to spot sitemap changes without restarting

[Jeff Turner]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:07:16PM +, Simon Price wrote:
> I've not used cocoon for 3-4 months but I've just downloaded and got the 
> new 2.1 head running. There's some nice improvements - well done.
> 
> Last time I used cocoon I had to make some changes in cocoon.xconf so 
> that any edits to the sitemap were detected without a restart. However, 
> the notes I made at the time no longer match what's now in xconf.

I think that applies to the old compiled sitemap.  The interpreted
sitemap in 2.1 reloads automatically (and quickly) when it is modified,
without conf tweaks.

Btw, if you're using CVS head, watch out for this bug:

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16248

and also for "Attempted to retrieve component with null hint" errors..
the sitemap sytax changed (eg. map:pipelines -> map:pipes) since 2.0.x.

> Is there an up-to-date guide somewhere on how to configure cocoon for 
> development?

There's a Wiki with lots of good stuff..

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp


--Jeff

> What are the best settings for caches, reloads etc. for easing development?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Simon

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how to configure cocoon to spot sitemap changes without restarting

[Simon Price]

I've not used cocoon for 3-4 months but I've just downloaded and got the 
new 2.1 head running. There's some nice improvements - well done.

Last time I used cocoon I had to make some changes in cocoon.xconf so 
that any edits to the sitemap were detected without a restart. However, 
the notes I made at the time no longer match what's now in xconf.

Is there an up-to-date guide somewhere on how to configure cocoon for 
development?

What are the best settings for caches, reloads etc. for easing development?

Thanks in advance

Simon

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[XMLForm] Bean initialization

[Sylvain.Thevoz]

Hello everybody,

Few weeks ago I talked about a problem when I tried to initialize the Bean in my 
XMLForm app.
The Bean initialization should load an XML file and save it into a Node variable 
declared in the Bean.
This Node is used to list possible values in a listbox for the property 
"workstationType".

The problem was that the list of the listbox was empty on the first page of the form 
and the Bean didn't seem to be initialized. 
When you went to the next page and went back to the first, the list was suddenly full 
and all was OK. It seemed that the Bean was initialized only at the second page.

It's very strange because the Bean seemed to be initialized but the list for the 
listbox was empty. But there was the right number of spaces to display the list (you 
had 5 lines in the view if there was 5 entries in the list).

I have new information about this problem:

1) I tried to override the getFormModel() method in the Action and put the Bean 
initialization into this method. The problem was still exactly the same!

2) I conclude that it's not a Node initialization problem. The problem is when you 
want to display the list at the first page.
Now there is a strange thing: if you assign something in the property workstationType 
within the getFormModel(), the initialization works well and you have the full list at 
the first page (but you don't see the value you have assigned in the getFormModel() 
method!).

WHAT HAPPEN!!!

If someone has an idea?


Thank you very much
Sylvain

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Re: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)

[Antonio Gallardo]

I already tried sunBow and is very fine. Is at his early stages but
promise a good future.

I am also looking for a XSP debbuger. Where I can find it?

Antonio Gallardo.

Martin Dulisch dijo:
> sunBow (a plug in for eclipse) has a XSLT Trace feature. It is not
> binded to cocoon. But it is very helpfull to find bugs in stylesheets.
> You can find it here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/
>
> Martin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)
>
>
>> >AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
>> debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...
>>
>> Where can I get hold of a XSLT debugger to use with cocoon? a lot of
> times
>> cocoon doesn't provide much debugging information when there is
> something
>> wrong with your stylesheets.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: 23 January 2003 17:09
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: .Net port of Cocoon
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:05 PM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: .Net port of Cocoon
>>
>> > >
>> > >Granted, there is no debugger in Cocoon,
>> > >
>> >
>> > ... and shoud not be: all IDEs as well as JDK has debuggers. Use
> them
>> > remotely or start your servlet engine from under it - in either
> case you
>> > can put breakpoints and debug your Java.
>> >
>> > /me goes back to lurking
>> > Vadim
>>
>> Vadim,
>>
>> let's get this straight: since Cocoon is composed of many
> technologies, a
>> Java debugger alone cannot do the work.
>>
>> I'd like to debug my XSLT, see the parameters' values as they flow
> from the
>> sitemap to the XSLT, check every stage's XML output, set
>> breakpoints in Actions... and more: this is what an ideal Cocoon
> debugger
>> should do.
>>
>> AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
> debuggers,
>> one for XSLT, one for Java...
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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Re: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)

[Martin Dulisch]

sunBow (a plug in for eclipse) has a XSLT Trace feature. It is not
binded to cocoon. But it is very helpfull to find bugs in stylesheets.
You can find it here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/

Martin

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Subject: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)


> >AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
> debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...
>
> Where can I get hold of a XSLT debugger to use with cocoon? a lot of
times
> cocoon doesn't provide much debugging information when there is
something
> wrong with your stylesheets.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 23 January 2003 17:09
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: .Net port of Cocoon
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: .Net port of Cocoon
>
> > >
> > >Granted, there is no debugger in Cocoon,
> > >
> >
> > ... and shoud not be: all IDEs as well as JDK has debuggers. Use
them
> > remotely or start your servlet engine from under it - in either
case you
> > can put breakpoints and debug your Java.
> >
> > /me goes back to lurking
> > Vadim
>
> Vadim,
>
> let's get this straight: since Cocoon is composed of many
technologies, a
> Java debugger alone cannot do the work.
>
> I'd like to debug my XSLT, see the parameters' values as they flow
from the
> sitemap to the XSLT, check every stage's XML output, set
> breakpoints in Actions... and more: this is what an ideal Cocoon
debugger
> should do.
>
> AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
debuggers,
> one for XSLT, one for Java...
>
>
> Regards,
>
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RE: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)

[Luca Morandini]

Mark,

I don't use XSLT debuggers, I've just configured logkit to put all messages produced 
by Xalan into a single log file.

LogTransformer, as Antonio pointed out, could be useful too.

Nevertheless, there are a number of XSLT debuggers out there, which, if you save the 
XML document before the XSLT stage into a file,
could be used to debug your XSLT... but I never tried them.

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> From: Mark H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)
>
>
> >AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
> debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...
>
> Where can I get hold of a XSLT debugger to use with cocoon? a lot of times
> cocoon doesn't provide much debugging information when there is something
> wrong with your stylesheets.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 23 January 2003 17:09
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: .Net port of Cocoon
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: .Net port of Cocoon
>
> > >
> > >Granted, there is no debugger in Cocoon,
> > >
> >
> > ... and shoud not be: all IDEs as well as JDK has debuggers. Use them
> > remotely or start your servlet engine from under it - in either case you
> > can put breakpoints and debug your Java.
> >
> > /me goes back to lurking
> > Vadim
>
> Vadim,
>
> let's get this straight: since Cocoon is composed of many technologies, a
> Java debugger alone cannot do the work.
>
> I'd like to debug my XSLT, see the parameters' values as they flow from the
> sitemap to the XSLT, check every stage's XML output, set
> breakpoints in Actions... and more: this is what an ideal Cocoon debugger
> should do.
>
> AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of debuggers,
> one for XSLT, one for Java...
>
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: .Net port of Cocoon

[Konstantin Piroumian]

Looks fine! Thanks.

I've corrected a little and added the original author's name - Vadim.

--
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> Very cool, Konstantin. I added the information to
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=HotDeploy. Hey, my first Wiki
> page ;-) Did I forget anything?
>
> Regards,
>
> Joerg
>
> Konstantin Piroumian wrote:
> > From: "Andreas Bednarz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >>Hi Derek,
> >>
> >
> > 
> >
> >>no VM restarting for debugging etc
> >
> >
> > My advice won't help you much if you decided not to use Cocoon, but I
hope
> > it would be helpful for other users. (Would be also fine if somebody
could
> > write an this on Wiki).
> >
> > To avoid restarting the VM (the servlet container) you should do the
> > following:
> > - use a container that supports hot deploy or so (I've used Tomcat
4.0.4
> > and 4.1). You can use it for development only and then deploy some other
> > server.
> > - configure your servlet container to load application located in
> > /build/cocoon/webapp. In case of Tomcat you should a
context in
> > /conf/server.xml pointing to that location, e.g.:
> >  > docBase="C:\Java\Apache\xml-cocoon\xml-cocoon-2.1\build\cocoon\webapp"
> > debug="0"
> >  reloadable="true">
> >>  prefix="localhost_cocoon_2_1_log." suffix=".txt"
> >   timestamp="true"/>
> > 
> >
> > - and at last build Cocoon using
> > build.[bat|sh]-Dinclude.webapp.libs=true webapp-local. This will build
> > Cocoon and will place all classes in WEB-INF/classes so Tomcat could
track
> > changes.
> >
> > Now you can compile your classes and Tomcat will reload the application
as
> > soon as modifications are detected (it requires about a 1min).
> >
> > --
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Re: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)

[Antonio Gallardo]

Check:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/log-transformer.html

Antonio

Mark H dijo:
>>AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
> debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...
>
> Where can I get hold of a XSLT debugger to use with cocoon? a lot of
> times cocoon doesn't provide much debugging information when there is
> something wrong with your stylesheets.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 23 January 2003 17:09
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: .Net port of Cocoon
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:05 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: .Net port of Cocoon
>
>> >
>> >Granted, there is no debugger in Cocoon,
>> >
>>
>> ... and shoud not be: all IDEs as well as JDK has debuggers. Use them
>> remotely or start your servlet engine from under it - in either case
>> you can put breakpoints and debug your Java.
>>
>> /me goes back to lurking
>> Vadim
>
> Vadim,
>
> let's get this straight: since Cocoon is composed of many technologies,
> a Java debugger alone cannot do the work.
>
> I'd like to debug my XSLT, see the parameters' values as they flow from
> the sitemap to the XSLT, check every stage's XML output, set
> breakpoints in Actions... and more: this is what an ideal Cocoon
> debugger should do.
>
> AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
> debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -
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XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)

[Mark H]

>AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...

Where can I get hold of a XSLT debugger to use with cocoon? a lot of times
cocoon doesn't provide much debugging information when there is something
wrong with your stylesheets.

Mark

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> -Original Message-
> From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: .Net port of Cocoon

> >
> >Granted, there is no debugger in Cocoon,
> >
>
> ... and shoud not be: all IDEs as well as JDK has debuggers. Use them
> remotely or start your servlet engine from under it - in either case you
> can put breakpoints and debug your Java.
>
> /me goes back to lurking
> Vadim

Vadim,

let's get this straight: since Cocoon is composed of many technologies, a
Java debugger alone cannot do the work.

I'd like to debug my XSLT, see the parameters' values as they flow from the
sitemap to the XSLT, check every stage's XML output, set
breakpoints in Actions... and more: this is what an ideal Cocoon debugger
should do.

AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of debuggers,
one for XSLT, one for Java...


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[ARTICLE]Excel Reports with Apache Cocoon and POI

[Stephan Michels]

Hi,

found an interesting article on XML.com:

http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/01/22/cocoon-excel.html

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Re: Cocoon2

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

i have written two cookbook examples for tomcat 4 with cocoon-2.0.4.
This may help you...

for tomcat:
http://www.saxess.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=TomcatInitial

for cocoon under tomcat:
http://www.saxess.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Install

regards, hussayn

Mustafa Ali, Halgurt wrote:

Hello,

 

I am trying to configer cocoon-2.0.4 under win XP with tomcat-5, but i 
am really stuck, I do´nt know what to do, I get the message servlet 
cocoon2 is not available. Can you please tell me how I can configer 
cocoon-2.0.4 with tomcat-5 apache http Server-2.0.43.

 

Thank you very much for help;

Halgurt




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Cocoon2

[Mustafa Ali, Halgurt]

Hello,

 

I am trying to configer cocoon-2.0.4 under win XP with tomcat-5, but i am really stuck, I do´nt know
what to do, I get the message servlet cocoon2 is not
available. Can you please tell me how I can configer
cocoon-2.0.4 with tomcat-5 apache http Server-2.0.43. 

 

Thank you very much for help;

Halgurt






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links to powerpoint files work inconsistently

[BVKETS]

Title: links to powerpoint files work inconsistently





Hi All,
I have a directory with lots of Powerpoints files that I need to make downloadable.
I created a page containing all the links to these files.
In the sitemap I added this pipeline:



  



When I click on the links only half of the time I get the presentation in the browser.  The other half I don't get any data.  This problem is very inconsistent, even on the same link.

I'm using a CVS HEAD build from 15/5/2002 with JDK1.3.1 and Tomcat 4.0.6 on Win2000.


Anybody know what this could be and what can be done about this???


Thanks,
Bert

xsl include doesn't reload changed included document?!?

[Thomas Sandor]

 hi,

 I'm using the following line to include another xml in my XSLT file:
 

 and the template section start as follows:
 ...

 The problem is that when I change something in the included document,
 nothing happens, by the transformer, it uses the same previous state. I can
 only make it awake by redeploying the whole ear.
 I emptyed the catalina work directory. So I don't see from where gets
cocoon
 the cached document.

 How can I force Cocoon or the XSLT to really check and if change read the
 included document??

 any help is appreciated.
 Thanks,
 Thomas



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SunRise Authentication Problem

[Livesh Naidoo]

Hi - I am fairly new to cocoon, and have been 
trying to get an example running using authentication with the sitemap.  
>From some examples on the net, i have come up wiht the attached sitemap - please 
excuse the untidyness of it - and possible silliness of errors - still new to 
everything.
 
Anyways - when I try calling up my protected 
resources which is the main.html URI - i get an error comng up that the 
requested URI cannot be found.  I ahd tried running the URI without being 
authenticated, and it seems to work fine, which leads me to believe that there 
could be a problem with my sitemap file.
 
I could not understand why the sunRise-login action 
was being called up when I did not define it in my sitemap.  should i 
define it?  what else do you see that could be possible errors for my 
authentication not to function.  what are my other options?
thanks.
Livesh


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using RequestSelector + stylesheet parameter

[Cyril Vidal]

Hi,

I would like to use two different stylesheets depending of the value of the
parameter 'langue' passed in HTTP Request.

In this aim, I use a RequestSelector, and this works well:






































But I would like also to pass another parameter  'tri ' to the  selectionned
stylesheet , and I don't know exactly which syntax I should use to combin
Selector + stylesheet parameter:

I've tried this:



















but it doesn't work.

SOmeone could help me please?

Thanks in advance,

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cinclude!!!!!!!!!!!!!! help!!!!

[Hong Gia Dinh]

Title: cinclude!! help





Hi all,


I read carefully the document about cinclude documents of cocoon tutorial CInclude Transformer!!! i tried to use it but :(((

My problem is :


I have an xsp file with declaration of cinclude namespace like this :


http://apache.org/xsp" xmlns:xsp-request="http://apache.org/xsp/request/2.0" xmlns:i18n="http://apache.org/cocoon/i18n/2.0" xmlns:cinclude="http://apache.org/cocoon/include/1.0">

    
        http://uranus:8080/sgc/portal/template.xsp" element="template"/>     
    bodyyy
    


and the template.xsp is :


abc
foot
head
..
..
when my xsl file try to get items of the template such as :

it can not get


i dont understand why??? although base on the cinclude theory, this is made very easily???


what i did wrong?? can you all show me???


Thank you very very much 


GD






    

HTMLGenerator with dynamic source

[Gerald Kahrer]

Hi,

does anyone know, how to use HTMLGenerator with dynamic "src" - Attribute ?

Scenario:
I use the portal fw with Cocoon 2.1.

I have a configurable coplet, where i let the user configure a URL.

What i want to do is starting an HTMLGenerator with this configured URL as
"src"-Attribute.

Any ideas ?

Thx
Gerald

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FW: Administrator in need of help on new install

[Gerstel, Rachel]

And here is the rest of my post:

My apache config file: (I trimmed out the bits that I don't think apply to
keep the size down:
/etc/apache/httpd.conf:

gerstelr@granite-$ cat /etc/apache/httpd.conf
##
## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file
## @(#) httpd.conf.default 1.1@(#) 02/08/28 16:51:24
##

#
# Based upon the NCSA server configuration files originally by Rob McCool.
#
# This is the main Apache server configuration file.  It contains the
# configuration directives that give the server its instructions.
# See http://www.apache.org/docs/> for detailed information about
# the directives.
#
# Do NOT simply read the instructions in here without understanding
# what they do.  They're here only as hints or reminders.  If you are unsure
# consult the online docs. You have been warned.  
#
# After this file is processed, the server will look for and process
# /etc/apache/srm.conf and then /etc/apache/access.conf
# unless you have overridden these with ResourceConfig and/or
# AccessConfig directives here.
#
# The configuration directives are grouped into three basic sections:
#  1. Directives that control the operation of the Apache server process as
a
# whole (the 'global environment').
#  2. Directives that define the parameters of the 'main' or 'default'
server,
# which responds to requests that aren't handled by a virtual host.
# These directives also provide default values for the settings
# of all virtual hosts.
#  3. Settings for virtual hosts, which allow Web requests to be sent to
# different IP addresses or hostnames and have them handled by the
# same Apache server process.
#
# Configuration and logfile names: If the filenames you specify for many
# of the server's control files begin with "/" (or "drive:/" for Win32), the
# server will use that explicit path.  If the filenames do *not* begin
# with "/", the value of ServerRoot is prepended -- so "logs/foo.log"
# with ServerRoot set to "/usr/local/apache" will be interpreted by the
# server as "/usr/local/apache/logs/foo.log".
#

### Section 1: Global Environment
#
# The directives in this section affect the overall operation of Apache,
# such as the number of concurrent requests it can handle or where it
# can find its configuration files.
#

#
# ServerType is either inetd, or standalone.  Inetd mode is only supported
on
# Unix platforms.
#
ServerType standalone

#
# ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's
# configuration, error, and log files are kept.
#
# NOTE!  If you intend to place this on an NFS (or otherwise network)
# mounted filesystem then please read the LockFile documentation
# (available at http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#lockfile>);
# you will save yourself a lot of trouble.
#
ServerRoot "/usr/local"

#
# The LockFile directive sets the path to the lockfile used when Apache
# is compiled with either USE_FCNTL_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT or
# USE_FLOCK_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT. This directive should normally be left at
# its default value. The main reason for changing it is if the logs
# directory is NFS mounted, since the lockfile MUST BE STORED ON A LOCAL
# DISK. The PID of the main server process is automatically appended to
# the filename. 
#
#LockFile /var/run/httpd.lock

#
# PidFile: The file in which the server should record its process
# identification number when it starts.
#
PidFile /var/run/httpd.pid

#
# ScoreBoardFile: File used to store internal server process information.
# Not all architectures require this.  But if yours does (you'll know
because
# this file will be  created when you run Apache) then you *must* ensure
that
# no two invocations of Apache share the same scoreboard file.
#
ScoreBoardFile /var/run/httpd.scoreboard

#
# In the standard configuration, the server will process httpd.conf (this 
# file, specified by the -f command line option), srm.conf, and access.conf 
# in that order.  The latter two files are now distributed empty, as it is 
# recommended that all directives be kept in a single file for simplicity.  
# The commented-out values below are the built-in defaults.  You can have
the 
# server ignore these files altogether by using "/dev/null" (for Unix) or
# "nul" (for Win32) for the arguments to the directives.
#
#ResourceConfig conf/srm.conf
#AccessConfig conf/access.conf

#
# Timeout: The number of seconds before receives and sends time out.
#
Timeout 300

#
# KeepAlive: Whether or not to allow persistent connections (more than
# one request per connection). Set to "Off" to deactivate.
#
KeepAlive On

#
# MaxKeepAliveRequests: The maximum number of requests to allow
# during a persistent connection. Set to 0 to allow an unlimited amount.
# We recommend you leave this number high, for maximum performance.
#
MaxKeepAliveRequests 100

#
# KeepAliveTimeout: Number of seconds to wait for the next request from the
# same client on the same connection.
#
KeepAliveTimeout 15

#
# Server-pool size regulation.  Rather than making you guess how 

FW: Administrator in need of help on new install

[Gerstel, Rachel]

This got bounced, so I am sending it in two bits:

First bit has the tomcat files:

I have a jk mount set up via my mod_jk.conf file. I have tomcat do the work
automagically for me and just use an Inlcude line in apache to make sure it
grabs the info. I also checked and can access cocoon from
http://granite:80/cocoon. There is a screen shot that I am attaching that
might not come through, but it will show you exactly what I see when I
connect. And, here are my relevant files:

auto config file from tomcat:
/usr/local/tomcat/conf/auto/mod_jk.conf:

## Auto generated on Thu Jan 23 17:06:43 MET 2003##


  LoadModule jk_module /usr/local/apache/libexec/mod_jk.so


JkWorkersFile "/usr/local/tomcat/conf/jk/workers.properties"
JkLogFile "/var/tomcat/logs"

JkLogLevel info


ServerName granite

 granite:/cocoon 

# Static files 
Alias /cocoon "/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/cocoon"


Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.jsp 



# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#

AllowOverride None
deny from all



AllowOverride None
deny from all


JkMount /cocoon/*.html  ajp13
JkMount /cocoon/servlet/*  ajp13
JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp  ajp13

 granite:/manager 

# Static files 
Alias /manager "/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/manager"


Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.jsp 



# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#

AllowOverride None
deny from all



AllowOverride None
deny from all


JkMount /manager/*  ajp13
JkMount /manager/servlet/*  ajp13
JkMount /manager/*.jsp  ajp13


my tomcat server.xml:
/usr/local/tomcat/conf/server.xml:





 




  
  

  
  


















-Original Message-
From: Jim McCullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Administrator in need of help on new install


Perhaps I also should have asked it you are able
to access Cocoon by specifying the Tomcat port:

http://mymachine.com:8080/cocoon

or whatever port Tomcat is listening on, usually 8080.

If the cocoon welcom page is displaying properly when
accessing Tomcat directly - then there is really only
one line out of the httpd.conf file that matters:

JkMount /cocoon/* ajp13

you can also setup an alias to cocoon

Alias /cocoon "[path-to-cocoon]"

These are the only lines in the httpd.conf file that
refer to cocoon and should get cocoon showing up
when using http://mymachine.com/cocoon

Obviously the above lines would need to be included
under the specific virtual host in your httpd.conf file if you
are using virtual hosts, or under the default host.


Jim


Jim McCullough
Risk Analytics Inc. - Las Vegas
Software Engineering
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(702) 407-1814 (voice)
(702) 407-1824 (fax)



- Original Message -
From: "SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Administrator in need of help on new install


> Hy,
>
> can you send your tomcat/apache/cocoon config files ?
> That should be a solvable problem ...
>
> If the mailing list agent refuses your email (due to size
> limitations) you can send it directly to my personal
> email adress if you like...
>
> regards, hussayn
>
> Jim McCullough wrote:
> > Have you setup a JkMount in your httpd.conf file
> > for cocoon?
> >
> > JkMount /cocoon/* ajp13
> >
> >
> > Jim McCullough
> > Risk Analytics Inc. - Las Vegas
> > Software Engineering
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (702) 407-1814 (voice)
> > (702) 407-1824 (fax)
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gerstel, Rachel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:25 AM
> > Subject: Administrator in need of help on new install
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hello All,
> >>
> >>Apologies if this has already been covered, but I have not been able to
> >
> > find
> >
> >>a similar problem in the archives.
> >>
> >>I have no experience with xml whatsoever and have a brand-new developer
> >
> > with
> >
> >>no experience whatsoever wanting to start playing around with cocoon.
> >>
> >>I have installed: Tomcat 4.0.4, Apache 1.3.26 and Cocoon 2.0.4 (also
> >>uninstalled and tried 2.0.3, but got the same results). I have a feeling
I
> >>am missing some really basic item, but haven't been able to figure it
out
> >>and am getting a headache so I hope someone can please help. :--)
> >>
> >>My tomcat and apache are configured with mod_jk to talk to each other
(via
> >>auto config in tomcat ../conf/auto/mod_jk.conf) with apache serving
static
> >>

RE: Administrator in need of help on new install

[Gerstel, Rachel]

I have a jk mount set up via my mod_jk.conf file. I have tomcat do the work
automagically for me and just use an Inlcude line in apache to make sure it
grabs the info. I also checked and can access cocoon from
http://granite:80/cocoon. There is a screen shot that I am attaching that
might not come through, but it will show you exactly what I see when I
connect. And, here are my relevant files:

auto config file from tomcat:
/usr/local/tomcat/conf/auto/mod_jk.conf:

## Auto generated on Thu Jan 23 17:06:43 MET 2003##


  LoadModule jk_module /usr/local/apache/libexec/mod_jk.so


JkWorkersFile "/usr/local/tomcat/conf/jk/workers.properties"
JkLogFile "/var/tomcat/logs"

JkLogLevel info


ServerName granite

 granite:/cocoon 

# Static files 
Alias /cocoon "/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/cocoon"


Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.jsp 



# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#

AllowOverride None
deny from all



AllowOverride None
deny from all


JkMount /cocoon/*.html  ajp13
JkMount /cocoon/servlet/*  ajp13
JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp  ajp13

 granite:/manager 

# Static files 
Alias /manager "/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/manager"


Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.jsp 



# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#

AllowOverride None
deny from all



AllowOverride None
deny from all


JkMount /manager/*  ajp13
JkMount /manager/servlet/*  ajp13
JkMount /manager/*.jsp  ajp13


my tomcat server.xml:
/usr/local/tomcat/conf/server.xml:





 




  
  

  
  
















My apache config file: (I trimmed out the bits that I don't think apply to
keep the size down:
/etc/apache/httpd.conf:

gerstelr@granite-$ cat /etc/apache/httpd.conf
##
## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file
## @(#) httpd.conf.default 1.1@(#) 02/08/28 16:51:24
##

#
# Based upon the NCSA server configuration files originally by Rob McCool.
#
# This is the main Apache server configuration file.  It contains the
# configuration directives that give the server its instructions.
# See http://www.apache.org/docs/> for detailed information about
# the directives.
#
# Do NOT simply read the instructions in here without understanding
# what they do.  They're here only as hints or reminders.  If you are unsure
# consult the online docs. You have been warned.  
#
# After this file is processed, the server will look for and process
# /etc/apache/srm.conf and then /etc/apache/access.conf
# unless you have overridden these with ResourceConfig and/or
# AccessConfig directives here.
#
# The configuration directives are grouped into three basic sections:
#  1. Directives that control the operation of the Apache server process as
a
# whole (the 'global environment').
#  2. Directives that define the parameters of the 'main' or 'default'
server,
# which responds to requests that aren't handled by a virtual host.
# These directives also provide default values for the settings
# of all virtual hosts.
#  3. Settings for virtual hosts, which allow Web requests to be sent to
# different IP addresses or hostnames and have them handled by the
# same Apache server process.
#
# Configuration and logfile names: If the filenames you specify for many
# of the server's control files begin with "/" (or "drive:/" for Win32), the
# server will use that explicit path.  If the filenames do *not* begin
# with "/", the value of ServerRoot is prepended -- so "logs/foo.log"
# with ServerRoot set to "/usr/local/apache" will be interpreted by the
# server as "/usr/local/apache/logs/foo.log".
#

### Section 1: Global Environment
#
# The directives in this section affect the overall operation of Apache,
# such as the number of concurrent requests it can handle or where it
# can find its configuration files.
#

#
# ServerType is either inetd, or standalone.  Inetd mode is only supported
on
# Unix platforms.
#
ServerType standalone

#
# ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's
# configuration, error, and log files are kept.
#
# NOTE!  If you intend to place this on an NFS (or otherwise network)
# mounted filesystem then please read the LockFile documentation
# (available at http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#lockfile>);
# you will save yourself a lot of trouble.
#
ServerRoot "/usr/local"

#
# The LockFile directive sets the path to the lockfile used when Apache
# is compiled with either USE_FCNTL_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT or
# USE_FLOCK_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT. This directive should normally be left at
# its default value. The main reason for changing it

Re: Portal - Coplets / Sunlet

[Richard Reyes]

Hi Carsten,

I am more interested in the second solution, since im planning to include
xmlforms as one of coplets
and they would not be delivering xml streams but formatted xhtml's. Assuming
these xmlform can run independently on a separate browser. Will it be
possible for you to please elaborate on the second solution as I am a
beginner in cocoon and I cannot even visualized the idea.

Thanks a lot.
RICHARD


- Original Message -
From: "Carsten Ziegeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: Portal - Coplets / Sunlet


> Hi,
>
> yes, this is possible. You can either say that the source/content of your
> coplet is a remote resource or you can use a local resource that includes
> a remote resource.
> First solution: instead of using the cocoon-protocol to specify the source
> of your coplet, you can say http://. as long as this remote resource
> delivers xml.
> Second solution: you define a local pipeline, using the cocoon-protocol
> and either read via the generator the remote resource or use the
> cinclude transformer. With the cinclude transformer you can include
> complete sites, like your www.google.com, as they were running in a frame.
> There will be some minor problems to solve, but it's possible :)
>
> Carsten
>
> Carsten Ziegeler
> Open Source Group, S&N AG
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Reyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 7:39 AM
> To: cocoon-users
> Subject: Portal - Coplets / Sunlet
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Will it be possible for a coplet to contain an external resource (for
> example is http://www.google.com )?
> And this resource that will need no more transformations and can be very
> independent like its in a another frame?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Richard
>
>
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RE: Portal - Coplets / Sunlet

[Carsten Ziegeler]

Hi,

yes, this is possible. You can either say that the source/content of your
coplet is a remote resource or you can use a local resource that includes
a remote resource.
First solution: instead of using the cocoon-protocol to specify the source
of your coplet, you can say http://. as long as this remote resource
delivers xml.
Second solution: you define a local pipeline, using the cocoon-protocol
and either read via the generator the remote resource or use the
cinclude transformer. With the cinclude transformer you can include
complete sites, like your www.google.com, as they were running in a frame.
There will be some minor problems to solve, but it's possible :)

Carsten

Carsten Ziegeler
Open Source Group, S&N AG


-Original Message-
From: Richard Reyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 7:39 AM
To: cocoon-users
Subject: Portal - Coplets / Sunlet


Hi Guys,

Will it be possible for a coplet to contain an external resource (for
example is http://www.google.com )?
And this resource that will need no more transformations and can be very
independent like its in a another frame?

Thanks in advance
Richard


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RE: Cocoon Portal Framework for production use?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
> Martin Schimak wrote:
>>
>> I have a new Intranet project (In July 2003, a very first release
>> should be ready) and
>> would like to use Cocoon 2.1 with Portal Framework to implement  it. I
>> would like to know
>> your personal opinions: Is it safe now to use 2.1 for production?
>
> Personally, I see no problems in using 2.1 in production environment, we
> are using it and many others here on the list are using 2.1
> in production environments for many months.
> But, as 2.1 is currently alpha, you might have to deal with
> incompatible changes which might occur in the next weeks until
> a beta is available.

We are already using 2.1 in production environment since Octuber 2002. Now
it is very stable. I only recommend you that before changing from version
to the next CVS version, you must be carefully to test it before deploy it
in production.

The application in question is a Database Webapp in an Intranet
Environment, that currently has 45 users. The core of the application is
Cocoon 2.1 CVS (20-Ene-2003).

>
>> I understand that End
>> of February 2003 2.1 Beta 1 is available. Does exist a possible
>> release day for 2.1-final?
>>
> No, there are no real dates - the date for the beta 1 is currently only
> a wish - we will see by then if we can make it. But I think
> the beta will come in the next two or three months (but don't
> quote me on this).

I hope it! ;-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo
AG Software, S. A.
>
> HTH
> Carsten
>
> Carsten Ziegeler
> Open Source Group, S&N AG




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