Re: svn commit: r553201 - /jakarta/commons/trunks-proper/KEYS

2007-07-04 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Please do..

Mvgr,
Martin

Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 Do I also need to copy the new KEYS file to
 http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/KEYS ?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Author: dennisl
 Date: Wed Jul  4 06:31:14 2007
 New Revision: 553201

 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=553201
 Log:
 Adding my key.

 Modified:
 jakarta/commons/trunks-proper/KEYS

 Modified: jakarta/commons/trunks-proper/KEYS
 URL:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/commons/trunks-proper/KEYS?view=diffrev=553201r1=553200r2=553201

 ==

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Re: svn commit: r553201 - /jakarta/commons/trunks-proper/KEYS

2007-07-04 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Doesn't it contain a note on top ?

Mvgr,
Martin

sebb wrote:
 Might be worth adding a suitable note to the file ?
 
 On 04/07/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please do..

 Mvgr,
 Martin

 Dennis Lundberg wrote:
  Do I also need to copy the new KEYS file to
  http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/KEYS ?
 
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Re: svn commit: r553201 - /jakarta/commons/trunks-proper/KEYS

2007-07-04 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Damned.. Read it wrong.. I read it like copy the new key instead of KEYS 
file.. (although could
mean the same in this case). It should probably be on the release page where 
you need to add your
key to which KEYS files, in what directories and why :).

Mvgr,
Martin

sebb wrote:
 Yes, but the note does not say where to copy the file after it has
 been updated...
 
 On 04/07/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Doesn't it contain a note on top ?

 Mvgr,
 Martin

 sebb wrote:
  Might be worth adding a suitable note to the file ?
 
  On 04/07/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Please do..
 
  Mvgr,
  Martin
 
  Dennis Lundberg wrote:
   Do I also need to copy the new KEYS file to
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/KEYS ?
 
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Re: Reorganising JIRA - Switching to new category

2007-07-01 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Done..

Mvgr,
Martin

Martin van den Bemt wrote:
 If no one objects I will create a new category in JIRA called commons and 
 move all commons projects
 under that category..
 
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Re: Reorganising JIRA - Switching to new category

2007-07-01 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Also renamed the notification scheme..

Mvgr,
Martin

Martin van den Bemt wrote:
 Done..
 
 Mvgr,
 Martin
 
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[jira] Commented: (BEANUTILS-285) Consider options for BeanUtils compatibility in light of Conversion improvements

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEANUTILS-285?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12509265
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Martin van den Bemt commented on BEANUTILS-285:
---

The problem you are describing is actually the current behaviour of betwixt and 
beanutils. People depend on that and if it was not working for them, there is 
documentation on how to solve that problem. So if people want to do what you 
describe they already need to work around that.
Based on above I am not creating more issues than I am resolving, I am just 
making sure everything works as it always did.
That  the solution in the trunk of beanutils solves a lot of other possible 
problems (or prevents usage of hacks) and is an improvement over current 
behaviour, is a different rationale altogether.

 I am not saying your changes aren't an improvement which can also benefit 
betwixt users, but I rather have the developer make that choice instead of 
possibly breaking default behaviour. Don't forget that betwixt is kind of a 
black box and any behaviour that can change the object-xml mapping by 
dropping in a  new beanutils can an application.
To get to your example : if all of a sudden a comma instead of a period will 
turn up in a value that can break the one who is expecting a period.

In any case, this whole reasoning doesn't mean that much when betwixt is 
released after beanutils is :)


 Consider options for BeanUtils compatibility in light of Conversion 
 improvements
 

 Key: BEANUTILS-285
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEANUTILS-285
 Project: Commons BeanUtils
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: ConvertUtils  Converters
Affects Versions: 1.8.0
Reporter: Niall Pemberton
Assignee: Niall Pemberton
 Attachments: betwixt-beanutils-gump-fix.patch


 The Conversion improvements associated with BEANUTILS-258 potentially create 
 compatibility issues - this was highlighted by Betwixt's tests failing 
 recently in the gump run - see http://tinyurl.com/2mxbv8 for more details.
 Quite a bit of effort has been put into making the new conversion facilities 
 as painless as possible for existing users. However it is not fully backwards 
 compatible in terms of behaviour (stiil binary compatible). Need to give this 
 some consideration before a BeanUtils release - at the moment there are two 
 options on the table (more welcome!):
 1) The compatibility as it stands is good enough (covers most cases) - so do 
 nothing
 2) Provide a compatibility option - so that users can choose either the new 
 behaviour or behaviour compatible with BeanUtils 1.7.0. This probably 
 involves quite a bit of work - adding back the old behaviour alongside the new

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[jira] Resolved: (BETWIXT-58) Empty string bug

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

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Martin van den Bemt resolved BETWIXT-58.


Resolution: Fixed

Author: mvdb
Date: Sat Jun 30 02:26:22 2007
New Revision: 552123

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=552123
Log:
Fix BETWIXT-58. Thanx to Kevin Waugh for spotting this.

Modified:

jakarta/commons/proper/betwixt/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/betwixt/strategy/ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter.java

jakarta/commons/proper/betwixt/trunk/src/test/org/apache/commons/betwixt/strategy/TestObjectStringConverters.java

 Empty string bug
 

 Key: BETWIXT-58
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT-58
 Project: Commons Betwixt
  Issue Type: Bug
Affects Versions: Nightly Builds
 Environment: N/A
Reporter: Kevin Waugh
Priority: Minor
 Fix For: Nightly Builds


 If you create a bean with a string property and set the string to be the 
 empty string then write the bean to xml using Betwixt upon reading the bean 
 the string property will be set to null.
 The stringToObject method in ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter does not obey 
 it's javadoc description.  The following patch still violates the 
 description, but fixes the bug stated.
 Index: 
 src/java/org/apache/commons/betwixt/strategy/ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter.java
 ===
 --- 
 src/java/org/apache/commons/betwixt/strategy/ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter.java
  (revision 534335)
 +++ 
 src/java/org/apache/commons/betwixt/strategy/ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter.java
  (working copy)
 @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
  public Object stringToObject(String value, Class type, String flavour, 
 Context context) {
  if (value == null || .equals(value))
  {
 -return null;
 +return value;
  }
  return ConvertUtils.convert( value, type );

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[jira] Commented: (BETWIXT-58) Empty string bug

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

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Martin van den Bemt commented on BETWIXT-58:


Oh forgot to add : since value can be null, I decided to just return  instead 
of value (since the javadoc says it will not return null)

 Empty string bug
 

 Key: BETWIXT-58
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT-58
 Project: Commons Betwixt
  Issue Type: Bug
Affects Versions: Nightly Builds
 Environment: N/A
Reporter: Kevin Waugh
Priority: Minor
 Fix For: Nightly Builds


 If you create a bean with a string property and set the string to be the 
 empty string then write the bean to xml using Betwixt upon reading the bean 
 the string property will be set to null.
 The stringToObject method in ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter does not obey 
 it's javadoc description.  The following patch still violates the 
 description, but fixes the bug stated.
 Index: 
 src/java/org/apache/commons/betwixt/strategy/ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter.java
 ===
 --- 
 src/java/org/apache/commons/betwixt/strategy/ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter.java
  (revision 534335)
 +++ 
 src/java/org/apache/commons/betwixt/strategy/ConvertUtilsObjectStringConverter.java
  (working copy)
 @@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
  public Object stringToObject(String value, Class type, String flavour, 
 Context context) {
  if (value == null || .equals(value))
  {
 -return null;
 +return value;
  }
  return ConvertUtils.convert( value, type );

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[jira] Reopened: (BETWIXT-23) [bewixt] null values shown as empty attributes

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

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 ]

Martin van den Bemt reopened BETWIXT-23:



Reopening to resolve it again because jira things it is open.

 [bewixt] null values shown as empty attributes
 --

 Key: BETWIXT-23
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT-23
 Project: Commons Betwixt
  Issue Type: Bug
Affects Versions: Nightly Builds
 Environment: Operating System: Linux
 Platform: Other
Reporter: _matthewHawthorne
Priority: Critical

 When a bean's property value is null, and setAttributesForPrimitives is true, 
 it
 is shown as an empty attribute.
 This behavior doesn't seem to be correct, since a value of null is being
 converted to an empty string.
 I've looked through the API and the code, and I can't seem to find where the
 problem is.
 I've posted this question to commons-user twice, but haven't received a
 response.  Even if you can't provide a fix, could you point me in the right
 direction so I could perhaps patch it?  
 Thanks for any help or information that you can provide.

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[jira] Resolved: (BETWIXT-23) [bewixt] null values shown as empty attributes

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT-23?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
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Martin van den Bemt resolved BETWIXT-23.


Resolution: Fixed

Was already fixed.. Now JIra also gets that

 [bewixt] null values shown as empty attributes
 --

 Key: BETWIXT-23
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT-23
 Project: Commons Betwixt
  Issue Type: Bug
Affects Versions: Nightly Builds
 Environment: Operating System: Linux
 Platform: Other
Reporter: _matthewHawthorne
Priority: Critical

 When a bean's property value is null, and setAttributesForPrimitives is true, 
 it
 is shown as an empty attribute.
 This behavior doesn't seem to be correct, since a value of null is being
 converted to an empty string.
 I've looked through the API and the code, and I can't seem to find where the
 problem is.
 I've posted this question to commons-user twice, but haven't received a
 response.  Even if you can't provide a fix, could you point me in the right
 direction so I could perhaps patch it?  
 Thanks for any help or information that you can provide.

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[jira] Reopened: (BETWIXT-2) Patch for mixed content

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

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Martin van den Bemt reopened BETWIXT-2:
---


Jira thinks this is unresolved, even though it is fixed

 Patch for mixed content
 ---

 Key: BETWIXT-2
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT-2
 Project: Commons Betwixt
  Issue Type: Bug
Affects Versions: 1.1 Final
 Environment: Operating System: All
 Platform: All
Reporter: Aslak Hellesøy
 Attachments: patch.diff


 This patch makes it possible to read/write mixed content with Betwixt. It has 
 been tested with beans that provide their own BeanInfo classes, and not 
 with .betwixt files. Additional work is probably needed in order to make it 
 work with .betwixt. Summary:
 -- XMLIntrospector --
 In addition to adding elements and attributes, this now adds content too.
 XMLIntrospectorHelper.createDescriptor() now returns a Descriptor (and no 
 longer a NodeDescriptor).
 -- AddDefaultsRule --
 No functional changes, just changed call to 
 XMLIntrospectorHelper.createDescriptor() 
 -- XMLIntrospectorHelper --
 When introspecting BeanInfo, this class is now looking for a magic text 
 attribute on all the PropertyDescriptors. If one is found, we consider it to 
 be PCDATA and treat it as mixed content.
 -- BeanRuleSet --
 Added a body method so that xml-bean conversion is done properly
 -- TestXMLIntrospectorHelper --
 Non functional change to make it compile.

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[jira] Resolved: (BETWIXT-2) Patch for mixed content

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

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Martin van den Bemt resolved BETWIXT-2.
---

Resolution: Fixed

Resolving again

 Patch for mixed content
 ---

 Key: BETWIXT-2
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT-2
 Project: Commons Betwixt
  Issue Type: Bug
Affects Versions: 1.1 Final
 Environment: Operating System: All
 Platform: All
Reporter: Aslak Hellesøy
 Attachments: patch.diff


 This patch makes it possible to read/write mixed content with Betwixt. It has 
 been tested with beans that provide their own BeanInfo classes, and not 
 with .betwixt files. Additional work is probably needed in order to make it 
 work with .betwixt. Summary:
 -- XMLIntrospector --
 In addition to adding elements and attributes, this now adds content too.
 XMLIntrospectorHelper.createDescriptor() now returns a Descriptor (and no 
 longer a NodeDescriptor).
 -- AddDefaultsRule --
 No functional changes, just changed call to 
 XMLIntrospectorHelper.createDescriptor() 
 -- XMLIntrospectorHelper --
 When introspecting BeanInfo, this class is now looking for a magic text 
 attribute on all the PropertyDescriptors. If one is found, we consider it to 
 be PCDATA and treat it as mixed content.
 -- BeanRuleSet --
 Added a body method so that xml-bean conversion is done properly
 -- TestXMLIntrospectorHelper --
 Non functional change to make it compile.

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[jira] Commented: (BETWIXT-59) NullPointerException on getAttributeDescriptor

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

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Martin van den Bemt commented on BETWIXT-59:


Can you give us a testcase showing that behaviour.. That will make it quicker 
for us to fix this.

 NullPointerException on getAttributeDescriptor
 --

 Key: BETWIXT-59
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BETWIXT-59
 Project: Commons Betwixt
  Issue Type: Bug
 Environment: Betwixt 0.8, java 1.5.0_11, windows xp
Reporter: Laurent J

 When writting custom suppression strategy first use of the following method 
 yield NullPointerException :
   public AttributeDescriptor getAttributeDescriptor(final String name)
 My attributeList is not null and I want to retrieve an attribute but 
 attributeDescriptors is null.
 Work around : call method hasAttributes before in order to fill 
 attributeDescriptors 
 Regards,
 kawas

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Reorganising JIRA - Switching to new category

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt
If no one objects I will create a new category in JIRA called commons and move 
all commons projects
under that category..

Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: Reorganising JIRA - Switching to new category

2007-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt
See https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa, Jakarta section. 
This contains all
commons projects.. I already created the commons category and like to move the 
commons projects over
there. If people adjusted their dashboard to eg just show the jakarta category 
they will miss some
projects...

Mvgr,
Martin

Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 Martin van den Bemt wrote:
 If no one objects I will create a new category in JIRA called commons
 and move all commons projects
 under that category..
 
 A category is that what is found in the right hand drop-down under
 All Projects on the start page? It says Show All as the default.
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa
 

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release commons-sandbox-parent 1

2007-06-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
This is not a Jakarta thing anymore :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 The results are in:
 
 +1
 Dennis Lundberg
 Torsten Curdt
 Niall Pemberton
 
 -0
 Rahul Akolkar
 
 
 I will proceed with the release.
 
 
 Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 Hi,

 It is time to release version 1 of the commons-sandbox-parent. The
 latest changes includes updating the parent to commons-parent-3 and
 locking down the versions for plugins. Note that I have changed the
 artifactId to commons-sandbox-parent, to have a consistent naming
 scheme (compare it to commons-parent).

 This will be the first release and is important because it enables
 reproducible builds and site generation for the sandbox components.

 This vote is for revision 550041, which will have its version number
 changed to 1 when the release is done. A SNAPSHOT has been deployed to
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Re: [BeanUtils][Betwixt] Backwards Compatibility of new Converter features

2007-06-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi Niall,

I completely missed the mail, so sorry for responding so late and thanx for 
your extensive reply !
After some thought about this, I came to a couple of insights :)

- You know the consequences of the change you made to beanutils a lot better 
than I do, so I leave
that responsibility to you. Although I would like to see some form of 
documentation about this
specific case (cannot imagine that betwixt is the only one that will run into 
this problem). The
problem is that the testcode in betwixt looks buggy or at least weird to some 
extend, so maybe it's
a hard case to explain.
-  The consequence I see now is that people if I adhere to the new way convert 
works, there will be
problems with the currently released versions of beanutils, so :

I decided to leave it to the user to use the improved beanutils functionality 
and solved the build
problem by copying the beanutils 1.7 code over to betwixt (see
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrevision=552049). This gives me the 
certainty that people
don't have any problems deserliazing their objects when beanutils trunk is on 
their classpath :)

Don't know if your changes still serve a purpose, if not, you should be able to 
revert it without
breanking betwixt.

Mvgr,
Martin

Niall Pemberton wrote:
 On 6/23/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Noticed the call of toString() on a String during the huntdown of what
 in beanutils broke the
 betwixt tests. (in the TestObjectStringConverters)
 The commit was a bit premature probably, although this is most (read
 most, so not all) of the time
 faster that calling toString() on a String. Will revert it (after some
 sleep) if that is what you
 are asking (code is more readable without the addition, agreed).

 Another questions (probably related to BEANUTILS-258) : The failing
 gump of betwixt is related to
 the changes you made to ConvertUtilsBean.convert(Object). In beanutils
 1.7 a default lookup is done
 for the type String.class and in the new code this is just the case
 when no converter can be found
 for the sourcetype, which makes the new beanutils code not a drop in
 replacement of the old one and
 not backward compatible. I will see if I can run the beanutils 1.7
 testcases against trunk tomorrow
 (they should pass, or am I being simplistic here?)

 Was this breakage intended and what are your thoughts on how to handle
 this ?
 
 I only see 6 failures in 2 test cases (and looking at the gump output
 seems the same) and really its only 3 because one test case extends
 the other and its the same failures.
 
 TestObjectStringConverters (3 failures)
  - testConvertUtilsConverter
  - testDefaultOSConverter
  - testDefaultOSConverterDates
 
 Testi18nObjectStringConversion (3 failures)
 (same failures as above since it inherits from TestObjectStringConverters)
 
 The cause is the same in all cases - these tests are effectively
 testing that ConvertUtils is delegating to the Converter registered
 for the String.class. This is what I (intentionally) changed.
 
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEANUTILS-258
 
 The contract for BeanUtils's Converter includes the type you want to
 convert to. Unfortunately the Converter implementations mostly ignored
 this and for conversion to String ConvertUtils delegated to the
 registered String Converter. Makes more sense to me if the Converter
 registered for the Type handled conversion from the type to String.
 So for example - the date Converter implementations can now be
 configured with a pattern ( Locale) and use that pattern to convert
 from String to Date and from Date to String. The same is true for the
 improved number converters (which can now also be configured with
 patterns and a Locale).
 
 In light of the betwixt issue I have made one change to the
 ConvertUtilsBean's new convert() method - if the registered Converter
 doesn't convert the value to a String it tries the registered String
 Conveter first - before then defaulting to the object's toString()
 method. This only partially resolves the compatability issue though
 and doesn't stop Betwixt tests failing.
 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrevision=551047
 
 On the compatibility issue - I believe the Converter implementations
 provided by BeanUtils are backwards compatible and its only where
 people have registered their own implementations that there may be
 issues. With my change today - if their Converter implementations
 don't handle conversion to String then it will continue to delegate to
 the registered String Converter - if their Converter doesn't cope well
 with that then they have an issue. The solution is fairly straight
 forward though since I have added a new AbstractConverter
 implementation that provides a structure to easily add String
 conversion capability. The question is though whether this is all
 enough (IMO yes).
 
 If not then the one option would for the existing ConvertUtilsBean's
 convert() methods to revert to their previour behaviour

Re: [BeanUtils][Betwixt] Backwards Compatibility of new Converter features

2007-06-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt


Niall Pemberton wrote:
 On 6/29/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Niall,


 Betwixt test cases are bizarre - but they do highlight a potential
 issue. Unfortunately BeanUtils development is slow and I'd rather
 ponder this some more than take a definite position at this point - a
 compatbility option in BeanUtils would be good, but I have to find
 the cycles and motivation to do it :(

The testcase gives me a headache indeed :) It seriously looks buggy :)

 
 I decided to leave it to the user to use the improved beanutils
 functionality and solved the build
 problem by copying the beanutils 1.7 code over to betwixt (see
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrevision=552049). This gives me
 the certainty that people
 don't have any problems deserliazing their objects when beanutils
 trunk is on their classpath :)
 
 The problem/issue with this approach is that you prevent Betwixt users
 taking advantage of the improved conversion facilities that will be
 offered by BeanUtils in the next release. Betwixt build issues can be
 fixed (i have a tested patch) to work for both the new and the old -
 leaving the compatibility issue open for now (but to be resolved
 before a BeanUtils release).

Nah users can simply override the default by eg calling 
BeanReader.setBindingConfiguration(their own
BindingConfiguration).. If they don't do anything they will get the default 
with the stable
behavior. So people already doing advanced betwixt stuff, probably already 
don't use the
DefaultStringConverter anymore. So no problem from the betwixt side. (although 
I am interested in
your patch)

Mvgr,
Martin

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[jira] Commented: (BEANUTILS-285) Consider options for BeanUtils compatibility in light of Conversion improvements

2007-06-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)

[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEANUTILS-285?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12509223
 ] 

Martin van den Bemt commented on BEANUTILS-285:
---

This is what I did at first, but the problem with that approach is that I am 
fixing the testcase, which in turn doesn't really fix the problem. If 
conversion changes when using a new beanutils version, people are not able to 
deserialize their xml anymore (or with weird results), which is the reason of 
the copypaste of the beanutils 1.7 method.  Don't forget that the test is for 
internal betwixt use. Even if people use beanutils directly the betwixt 
behaviour will not change if they going to use the new version. If they chose 
to depend on the new behaviour in beanutils they will hit problems when 
developing instead of getting into trouble at runtime when someone decides to 
use the latest and greatest dependencies..

So in short : I prefer a developer to get into trouble when he chooses to (= 
working on code that depends on betwixt) and not when someone else chooses to 
(the person that needs this version of beanutils to do something else)



 Consider options for BeanUtils compatibility in light of Conversion 
 improvements
 

 Key: BEANUTILS-285
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEANUTILS-285
 Project: Commons BeanUtils
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: ConvertUtils  Converters
Affects Versions: 1.8.0
Reporter: Niall Pemberton
Assignee: Niall Pemberton
 Attachments: betwixt-beanutils-gump-fix.patch


 The Conversion improvements associated with BEANUTILS-258 potentially create 
 compatibility issues - this was highlighted by Betwixt's tests failing 
 recently in the gump run - see http://tinyurl.com/2mxbv8 for more details.
 Quite a bit of effort has been put into making the new conversion facilities 
 as painless as possible for existing users. However it is not fully backwards 
 compatible in terms of behaviour (stiil binary compatible). Need to give this 
 some consideration before a BeanUtils release - at the moment there are two 
 options on the table (more welcome!):
 1) The compatibility as it stands is good enough (covers most cases) - so do 
 nothing
 2) Provide a compatibility option - so that users can choose either the new 
 behaviour or behaviour compatible with BeanUtils 1.7.0. This probably 
 involves quite a bit of work - adding back the old behaviour alongside the new

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Re: [BeanUtils][Betwixt] Backwards Compatibility of new Converter features

2007-06-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt


Niall Pemberton wrote:
 On 6/30/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 already don't use the
 DefaultStringConverter anymore. So no problem from the betwixt side.
 (although I am interested in
 your patch)
 
 I've created a compatibility Jira issue for BeanUtils - and I stuck
 the betwixt patch there so you could see it:
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEANUTILS-285
 

Responded to this mail and to the reply to my commit in the issue. Hope you get 
what I am trying to
say.. It's a pain when an application breaks if eg websphere version 10 or 
something uses beanutils
1.8. Wasted too many hours on these kind of things ;)

Mvgr,
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Re: infrastructure work for TLP move

2007-06-28 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Agree with Niall..

Archives are pretty much unusable with commits messages and jira issues..

Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: infrastructure work for TLP move

2007-06-28 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I don't see a problem in doing the last 2 years, which kind of gives us a nice 
clean committer
base and if we miss people, they simply need to ask for it.
Another options is just copy  pasting the jakarta committers block from 
asf-authorization, that way
you know everyone who has access, still has access..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
 On 6/27/07, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/28/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/27/07, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 6/28/07, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/27/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Personally, my vote would be to say:

 commons=committers
   
You mean all apache committers?  I agree that we should continue
 the
tradition of granting commons karma to any committer who asks
 for it.
I don't know much about how this works in svn or what the risk /
downside of auto-granting commons karma to new committers would be,
but I agree with the principle that any ASF committer should be
welcome here.
   
There are also a lot of current commons committers missing from the
list above.  My preference would be to have them remain commons
committers if that is not too hard to do. In any case, any current
commons committer who wants karma should get it.
  
   I agree - please lets not remove commit privledge from anyone who
   currently has it in Commons.
 
  Presuming no one recognizes the social genius of my first proposal,
  then I recommend that we make the list of committers be anyone who has
  committed in the last 2 years.

 Why have you gone from proposing to add any remaining ASF Commiters
 that don't currently have access to now removing access from anyone
 who hasn't committed in the last two years? This seems a bit random in
 principle to me to take one position to open things up one minute and
 then another to make it more restrictive the next.
 
 Just looking for something simple.
 
 I also dislike arbitrary limits - you choose 2 years - maybe someone
 else will prefer 1 year and so on. I still think anyone that currently
 has access should keep it and not loose their commit access to
 Commons.
 
 Pondered that one. We could keep the commons commit list as the
 jakarta group. Seemed a bit odd though.
 
 Hen
 
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Re: svn commit: r549986 - /jakarta/commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/ConvertUtilsBean.java

2007-06-24 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Thanx..

Mvgr,
Martin

Niall Pemberton wrote:
 On 6/23/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Niall Pemberton wrote:
  On 6/23/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Noticed the call of toString() on a String during the huntdown of what
  in beanutils broke the
  betwixt tests. (in the TestObjectStringConverters)
  The commit was a bit premature probably, although this is most (read
  most, so not all) of the time
  faster that calling toString() on a String. Will revert it (after some
  sleep) if that is what you
  are asking (code is more readable without the addition, agreed).
 
  Sorry was grmupy earlier - I leave it up to you.

 No problem, I kind of deserved that response with that commit :) If I
 am absolutely certain about a
 possible performance gain, I'll leave it in else I will revert it.

 
  Another questions (probably related to BEANUTILS-258) : The failing
  gump of betwixt is related to
  the changes you made to ConvertUtilsBean.convert(Object). In beanutils
  1.7 a default lookup is done
  for the type String.class and in the new code this is just the case
  when no converter can be found
  for the sourcetype, which makes the new beanutils code not a drop in
  replacement of the old one and
  not backward compatible. I will see if I can run the beanutils 1.7
  testcases against trunk tomorrow
  (they should pass, or am I being simplistic here?)
 
  Was this breakage intended and what are your thoughts on how to handle
  this ?
 
  I'm not familiar with betwixt - but I will look at this - hopefully
  sometme this weekend.

 I'll see if I can make a simple testcase which shows the problem (so
 you don't have to dig into
 betwixt itself). We currently have 24 tests failing with beanutils
 trunk..
 
 I had a quick look at one of the failing tests and understand the
 issue with that one - I'll look at the rest and write something up
 later.
 
 Niall
 
 Mvgr,
 Martin
 
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Re: svn commit: r549986 - /jakarta/commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/ConvertUtilsBean.java

2007-06-23 Thread Martin van den Bemt


Niall Pemberton wrote:
 On 6/23/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Noticed the call of toString() on a String during the huntdown of what
 in beanutils broke the
 betwixt tests. (in the TestObjectStringConverters)
 The commit was a bit premature probably, although this is most (read
 most, so not all) of the time
 faster that calling toString() on a String. Will revert it (after some
 sleep) if that is what you
 are asking (code is more readable without the addition, agreed).
 
 Sorry was grmupy earlier - I leave it up to you.

No problem, I kind of deserved that response with that commit :) If I am 
absolutely certain about a
possible performance gain, I'll leave it in else I will revert it.

 
 Another questions (probably related to BEANUTILS-258) : The failing
 gump of betwixt is related to
 the changes you made to ConvertUtilsBean.convert(Object). In beanutils
 1.7 a default lookup is done
 for the type String.class and in the new code this is just the case
 when no converter can be found
 for the sourcetype, which makes the new beanutils code not a drop in
 replacement of the old one and
 not backward compatible. I will see if I can run the beanutils 1.7
 testcases against trunk tomorrow
 (they should pass, or am I being simplistic here?)

 Was this breakage intended and what are your thoughts on how to handle
 this ?
 
 I'm not familiar with betwixt - but I will look at this - hopefully
 sometme this weekend.

I'll see if I can make a simple testcase which shows the problem (so you 
don't have to dig into
betwixt itself). We currently have 24 tests failing with beanutils trunk..

Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: Commons is TLP

2007-06-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt
The commons one is probably less straight forward, although could be a lot 
easier. Since there was a
commons in the past, it could well be that you don't need to do a lot (website, 
mailinglists, etc
already there), besides setting up the karma for the people, moving over the 
website, etc,etc.. So
probably best to figure out on infrastructure how to approach this specific 
situation.

Mvgr,
Martin

Torsten Curdt wrote:
 
 On 21.06.2007, at 00:57, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,

 The new Commons TLP was established today, with Torsten Curdt as Vice
 President.
 
 ...so where do we start with the TLP move is the question :)
 
 cheers
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Re: Commons is TLP

2007-06-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Forgot to check this list, feedback enough so it seems :)


Mvgr,
Martin

Martin van den Bemt wrote:
 The commons one is probably less straight forward, although could be a lot 
 easier. Since there was a
 commons in the past, it could well be that you don't need to do a lot 
 (website, mailinglists, etc
 already there), besides setting up the karma for the people, moving over the 
 website, etc,etc.. So
 probably best to figure out on infrastructure how to approach this specific 
 situation.
 
 Mvgr,
 Martin
 
 Torsten Curdt wrote:
 On 21.06.2007, at 00:57, Martin van den Bemt wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 The new Commons TLP was established today, with Torsten Curdt as Vice
 President.
 ...so where do we start with the TLP move is the question :)

 cheers
 -- 
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Re: svn commit: r549986 - /jakarta/commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/ConvertUtilsBean.java

2007-06-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Noticed the call of toString() on a String during the huntdown of what in 
beanutils broke the
betwixt tests. (in the TestObjectStringConverters)
The commit was a bit premature probably, although this is most (read most, so 
not all) of the time
faster that calling toString() on a String. Will revert it (after some sleep) 
if that is what you
are asking (code is more readable without the addition, agreed).

Another questions (probably related to BEANUTILS-258) : The failing gump of 
betwixt is related to
the changes you made to ConvertUtilsBean.convert(Object). In beanutils 1.7 a 
default lookup is done
for the type String.class and in the new code this is just the case when no 
converter can be found
for the sourcetype, which makes the new beanutils code not a drop in 
replacement of the old one and
not backward compatible. I will see if I can run the beanutils 1.7 testcases 
against trunk tomorrow
(they should pass, or am I being simplistic here?)

Was this breakage intended and what are your thoughts on how to handle this ?


Mvgr,
Martin

Niall Pemberton wrote:
 Is there a reason for this change? AFAIK calling toString() on a
 String object just returns a reference to itself - so this just seems
 to add clutter in my mind. Also there was discussion on this (i.e.
 calling toString() on a String) for this very bit of code in the
 following issue ticket - would have been nice to comment before
 arbitarily making the change
 
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEANUTILS-283
 
 Niall
 
 On 6/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Author: mvdb
 Date: Fri Jun 22 17:58:02 2007
 New Revision: 549986

 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=549986
 Log:
 Prevent calling toString on a String.

 Modified:

 jakarta/commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/ConvertUtilsBean.java


 Modified:
 jakarta/commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/ConvertUtilsBean.java

 URL:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/ConvertUtilsBean.java?view=diffrev=549986r1=549985r2=549986

 ==

 ---
 jakarta/commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/ConvertUtilsBean.java
 (original)
 +++
 jakarta/commons/proper/beanutils/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/beanutils/ConvertUtilsBean.java
 Fri Jun 22 17:58:02 2007
 @@ -542,7 +542,8 @@
  }
  converted = converter.convert(targetType, value);
  }
 -if (targetType == String.class  converted != null) {
 +if (targetType == String.class  converted != null 
 +!(converted instanceof String)) {
  converted = converted.toString();
  }
  return converted;



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Re: [VOTE] Invite Rahul Akolkar to join the Apache Commons PMC

2007-06-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1

Mvgr,
Martin

Niall Pemberton wrote:
 Rahul Akolkar is an existing Jakarta PMC member and Commons Committer.
 He was against the proposal for Commons to become a TLP. Since that
 vote passed and the Apache Board has now passed the resolution for
 Commons to become a TLP I would like to invite Rahul to join the new
 Apache Commons PMC.
 
 It would be a tragedy IMO if we lose valuable members of the Commons
 Community just because they were originally against the TLP proposal.
 
 [ ] +1, don't let Rahul get away - lets try to get him to join the new PMC
 [ ] -1, no leave him out
 
 Niall
 
 P.S. Anyone else in the same situation, then I suggest we do the same
 
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Re: [VOTE] Invite Simon Kitching to join the Apache Commons PMC

2007-06-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1

Mvgr,
Martin

Niall Pemberton wrote:
 Simon Kitching is an existing Jakarta PMC member and Commons
 Committer. He was against the proposal for Commons to become a TLP.
 Since that vote passed and the Apache Board has now passed the
 resolution for Commons to become a TLP I would like to invite Simon to
 join the new Apache Commons PMC.
 
 It would be a tragedy IMO if we lose valuable members of the Commons
 Community just because they were originally against the TLP proposal.
 
 [ ] +1, don't let Simon get away - lets try to get him to join the new PMC
 [ ] -1, no leave him out
 
 Niall
 
 P.S. Anyone else in the same situation, then I suggest we do the same
 
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Commons is TLP

2007-06-20 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi everyone,

The new Commons TLP was established today, with Torsten Curdt as Vice President.

Mvgr,
Martin

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Commons TLP Resolution

2007-06-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Please see
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/200705.mbox/[EMAIL 
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for the vote.

Mvgr,
Martin


Establish the Apache Commons project

   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
   Java focused reusable libraries and components.

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
   Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Commons Project,
   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
   Foundation; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Commons Project be and hereby is
   responsible for the creation and maintenance of Java focused
   reusable libraries and components; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Commons be and
   hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
   the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
   Apache Commons Project, and to have primary responsibility for
   management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
   of the Apache Commons Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
   Apache Commons Project:

 * Henri Yandell[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Jochen Wiedmann  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Stephen Colebourne   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Dennis Lundberg  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Niall Pemberton  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Martin van den Bemt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Oliver Zeigermann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Jörg Schaible[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Oliver Heger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Matt Benson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Martin Cooper[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Phil Steitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Torsten Curdt[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Daniel Savarese  dfs at apache.org
 * Rory Winston rwinston at apache.org
 * Luc Maisonobe[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Joerg Pietschmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Dion Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Brent Worden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Torsten Curdt
   be appointed to the office of Vice President, Commons, to serve
   in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
   Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
   resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
   a successor is appointed; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Commons Project be and hereby
   is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
   encourage open development and increased participation in the
   Commons Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Commons Project be and hereby
   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
   Jakarta Project's Commons; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Commons
   sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Jakarta
   Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: svn commit: r545184 - /jakarta/commons/proper/math/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/math/distribution/PoissonDistributionImpl.java

2007-06-07 Thread Martin van den Bemt
If the intention is to have a NullPointerException when null is passed, declare 
it and throw it
specifically (that way you are in control of the exception). I think every 
undocumented nullpointer
exception is a bug.

Mvgr,
Martin

Luc Maisonobe wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 +/**
 + * Modify the normal distribution used to compute normal approximations.
 + * The caller is responsible for insuring the normal distribution has 
 the
 + * proper parameter settings.
 + * @param value the new distribution
 + * @since 1.2
 + */
 +public void setNormal(NormalDistribution value) {
 +normal = value;
  }
 
 Should we check for null parameters here and throw a NPE ourselves or
 simply allow null parameters and let the JVM throw the NPE when the
 distribution is used ?
 
 I am fine with the current choice of letting the JVM handle this by
 itself, I only wondered what others think about this.
 
 Luc
 
 
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Re: [MATH] Initial ideas for adding naive prime algorithms

2007-05-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I'll help out with that if the time comes, he is a co-worker of mine..

Mvgr,
Martin

Bill Barker wrote:
 Roy van Rijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 While browsing through the Commons Math API today I noticed there
 aren't any prime algorithms in it. Then I noticed the request for
 these algorithms on the wiki WishList.

 Is anybody working on this yet? If not, could this be a good start?
 http://www.redcode.nl/tmp/PrimeUtils.rar

 I'm somewhat interested, but for those of us that don't use a mac, could you 
 publish in more universal format (e.g. .tar.gz/.zip)?
 
 Of course, this will need all of the legal IP clearance if it gets accepted, 
 so in the meantime, you should probably look at 
 http://www.apache.org/licenses/#grants.
 
 Roy
 (new to ASF) 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [nightly build] io failed.

2007-05-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
You suck at betting :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
 Bet this doesn't happen again tonight.
 
 On 5/11/07, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Failed build logs:
 http://vmbuild.apache.org/~commons/nightly/logs//20070511/io.log

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Re: [nightly build] io failed.

2007-05-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I suck at saying you suck at betting.. Should have checked the dates :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Martin van den Bemt wrote:
 You suck at betting :)
 
 Mvgr,
 Martin
 
 Henri Yandell wrote:
 Bet this doesn't happen again tonight.

 On 5/11/07, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Failed build logs:
 http://vmbuild.apache.org/~commons/nightly/logs//20070511/io.log

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Re: [all] Going TLP?

2007-05-08 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1 to you :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Torsten Curdt wrote:
 
 On 06.05.2007, at 19:51, Henri Yandell wrote:
 
 On 5/1/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/1/07, Jochen Wiedmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 5/2/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   (http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution) and secondly,
   anyone want to volunteer to chair things?
 
  As you are one of the most active persons here and also the one who is
  pushing this forward: How about yourself? :-)

 A bunch of projects do a one year term, which I think is probably a
 very healthy thing. I'm happy to do the chair bit if no one else wants
 to, but I'll happily support anyone if they're interested.

 No one interested in volunteering as Commons chair?
 
 I would also do it
 
 (How come I am not in the list? Did I miss the call?)
 
 cheers
 -- 
 Torsten
 
 
 
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Re: [CSV] A few questions and comments

2007-04-07 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi Stuart,

Just a clarification upfront : Currently csv has 2 codebases : the on in the 
writer package is what
I have written (don't remember if someone else has worked on that though) and 
the main o.a.c.csv
package is what the codebase started with. Because of like of time and the fact 
that people seemed
to be more interested in what was at the main package, I just continued doing 
the writer package for
private use. My focus is configurability and simple patterns to be able to 
easily integrate csv in
web applications and front end applications.
Afaik there is no interaction between the 2 packages :)

Stuart Robertson wrote:
 I just looked over the codebase and have a few questions.
 
 First, I'm wondering if some simple invalid format detection might be
 added as a configuration option.  Something to detect whether a given
 input might even be theoretically parseable.  I'd like to be able to
 detect, for instance, that this is a binary file, or maybe if it
 doesn't seem to contain a consistent separator pattern (line 1 has 10
 columns, line 2 only 6).  Basically anything to detect upfront an
 invalid file condition rather than have garbage be passed into the
 file using CSVParser.

The ConfigGuesser could be reused to achieve this. The main goal for 
ConfigGuesser is to limit user
configuration.

 
 Second, any thoughts on how guessFieldSparator can infer if it's TDF
 or CSV?  Or maybe what flavor of CSV format the file might be using
 (Excel or otherwise).  I see the CSVConfigGuesser attempts to
 determine whether the file is fixed width.  And the method
 guessFieldSeperator() seems to have a placeholder for guessing the
 file separator, but currently that portion is an empty for loop.

It's far from finished and very buggy :) It's the concept I wanted to draw 
attention too.

 
 Thinking about how that might be implemented, what if a regex counted
 the occurrances of common separators in each of the guess input
 lines.  A reasonable hueristic might be that the separator guess is
 that separator that has a common occurrance count in each line, and we
 could go with that.  Does this sound reasonable?  Or maybe there's a
 better way to do it?

There are a lot of problems with guessing the format :)

 
 In general, I think it'd be a valuable feature for the guesser to be
 as robust as possible for a range of input types.  Even if it weren't
 possible to make it perfect, for uses where the application can't
 completely control the format comming in, being fairly robust in the
 face of a variety of types would be outstanding.

Robust would be nice, but pretty hard to achieve. Maybe some way of setting the 
configguesser
strategy can make the thing more robust for the scenario you are using it for. 
My usage scenario is
that I don't have a clue what people want to use as their text format (and I 
don't care). So
guessing should be most flexible. By usage a of eg a wizard, people are able to 
change the behavior
of the configgueser like stating that this csv file has 10 fields, you can make 
your system more
robust. So eg 1010101 probably means that the separator will be 0 (1 is the 
start and the end, so is
most likely a value). If the user specifies that the csv file only has one 
field, we know 0 is not
the separator.

So I prefer no to limit the options out of the box, but have some kind of 
strategy to be able to
limit the options (in my case that is users who specify that the csv has 10 
fields), but we could
make standard strategies, like the default excel export format.

 
 One last observation.  CSVConfigGuesser looks intended to uses the
 first 10 lines of input if available for inferring the right config.
 But looking at the code, it looks to me like it will actually read in
 the entire file.  Here's the code (from SVN) I'm writing about:

Yeah the code is bad, very bad :) I just committed the guesser as a concept. 
Almost every line is
bad to be honest :).

Fixed the while loop in subversion..

Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: [all] Going TLP?

2007-04-03 Thread Martin van den Bemt
A group of people that care about the same things under one umbrella, with it's 
own power of making
decisions. Jakarta isn't that, c.a.o will for commons.

Mvgr,
Martin

Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
 I've got a question: If we have commons.apache.org, what will be the
 difference to jakarta.apache.org, apart from the missing projects? Why
 do we expect that c.a.p will work, although we assume that j.a.p
 didn't?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [all] Going TLP?

2007-04-03 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1 for c.a.o, since I think it is right thing for commons.

Jakarta PMC Chair hat on

I really regret this step is necessary and is the beginning of the end of 
Jakarta. Even though this
process started earlier than this proposal, this process will make the end of 
Jakarta unavoidable. I
always hoped flattening commons would be the new Jakarta, but the thought 
crossed my mind I could
well be the last Jakarta PMC Chair.

Please understand that this proposal is *not* about Jakarta, but about commons, 
so instead of voting
-1 on this proposal to prevent Jakarta to end, I prefer that everyone will 
continue to keep involved
at Jakarta to move Jakarta to it's new role, whatever that may be. There are 
still a lot of projects
that here that need your expertise, experience and spirit.

/Jakarta PMC Chair hat on

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
 I think the end should be nigh for Jakarta (those on private@ will
 have seen a thread in which I side-topic'd with the feeling that the
 end should be nigh for Jakarta). Previously I've suggested that
 Commons should flatten into Jakarta and that Jakarta should become a
 general 'Java components' project; however there are some negatives to
 that that I think are critical.
 
 Firstly, it leaves the future Jakarta with a lot of dead projects that
 are going nowhere. That's not going to change in the short to medium
 term, so it just becomes a millstone for the project's neck.
 
 Secondly, the Jakarta PMC will always remain a big group of people who
 care about the brand name and the various legacies, rather than a
 small focused PMC. I think this isn't desirable for any active
 community that are a part of Jakarta currently - trying to have a PMC
 that are acting as one community when not being one community doesn't
 work.
 
 Thirdly, I think by being here we are helping to delay the inevitable
 and keeping the old, broken umbrella going. Moving to TLP will help
 things move along, and will provide a place for things to move to.
 
 So with that said - I'd like to propose that we move to commons.apache.org.
 
 Hen
 
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Re: [vote] jci out of sandbox

2007-03-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1..

Mvgr,
Martin

Torsten Curdt wrote:
 As already announced I would like to move
 
  http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jci/
 
 out of the sandbox so I can then prepare a first RC. Please cast your
 votes for the graduation!
 
 cheers
 -- 
 Torsten
 
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Re: [VOTE] New committer - Stephen Kestle

2007-03-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1..

Mvgr,
Martin

Stephen Colebourne wrote:
 Stephen has spent a considerable amount of effort in discussions and
 chivying in the commons area, particularly on commons-collections.
 
 In another life he has been heavily involved in one of the existing
 generics ports of collections - http://collections.sf.net.
 
 [ ] +1 - Let him commit
 [ ]  0
 [ ] -1 - Perhaps not...
 
 Stephen
 
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Re: Seeking opinion RE IP issues

2007-03-09 Thread Martin van den Bemt
IANAL, so not going to give you advise on this scenario :) I tend to prevent 
this scenario, by
starting an open source for such things. Most employers will say yes to this, 
especially if you
invest a lot of your own time in creating this :)
I started doing it like this, since at a certain point in time, I was promised 
I could use that code
base in any way I wanted and couldn't get permission when leaving that company.
(my project xulux is an example of this, although sadly enough I lack the time 
to work on it)

Just some thoughts ;)

Mvgr,
Martin

Matt Benson wrote:
 First, my apologies for the cryptic subject line.  I
 am woefully ignorant of the relevant legal jargon.
 
 Next, note that this email is NOT related to my
 various twitchings regarding bringing the Morph
 project to Apache.  Moving on...
 
 I should qualify that I am a US citizen, so the
 relevant IP laws would apply AFAIK.  Now let's say I
 write a Java library at work, but it's something that
 is (a) useful and (b) fairly unique, and I think it
 would make a nice commons component.  Time passes, I
 change jobs, and based--no bullshit--entirely on my
 recollection of the functionality I had implemented
 before, I re-implement something extremely similar in
 the commons sandbox for eventual consideration for the
 commons proper.  I've heard various things to the
 effect that you can't be held responsible for what you
 remember (unless you're Ben Affleck in Paycheck); can
 anyone comment on experience with this type of
 question wrt the ASF?  What does it take to prove that
 I in no way referred to the original code beyond what
 remained in my head?  The resulting code would
 probably be similar though not identical to the
 original, but the functionality would be nearly
 identical unless I totally freaked out in some way.
 
 fwiw, I've subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in case
 having done so in the past would have made me a
 better-informed citizen to begin with.  :|
 
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Re: Announce: Commons Fileupload 1.2

2007-02-23 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Jochen,

Please update the http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current 
(section releases and
the section of the fileupload component, with some more details about the 
release)

Mvgr,
Martin

Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the Jakarta Commons team is glad to announce the availability of
 commons-fileupload 1.2. Commons Fileupload is a framework for handling
 HTTP file upload requests in servlets, portlets, and similar server
 side Java applications.
 
 Compared to the previous version 1.1.1, the following notable changes
 have been made:
 
 - A streaming API has been added. The streaming API allows to handle
 arbitrarily
  large files without intermediary files while still keeping an
 extremely low memory
  profile.
 - The presence of a content-length header is no longer required.
 - Added support for progress listeners.
 - Added support for header continuation lines.
 - Added support for limiting the actual file size, as opposed to the
 request size.
 
 Commons Fileupload 1.2 is available from
 
   
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-fileupload.cgi
 
 
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Re: [all] Status of components

2007-02-08 Thread Martin van den Bemt
If you could add that to the board report, me will be very happy ;)

Mvgr,
Martin

Matt Benson wrote:
 --- Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I made a stab of defining the current status for
 Commons for the
 Jakarta board report:


 http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current
 [SNIP]
 
 JXPath seems to have been effectively abandoned, but
 is overall quite stable.  It is, IMHO, very close to
 being ready for a 1.3 release (a couple of JIRA issues
 still need attention).  After 1.3 is released it can
 likely languish in the maintenance mode that IIRC
 was proposed by Niall on this thread.  My intent is to
 act as curator for this project.  However all that
 condenses into a summary status.  ;)
 
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Re: [dbutils] Adding the dbutils-1.1 source to the repository

2007-01-27 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I think the source jars are very useful and since everything looks ok, go 
ahead..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
 I've put together a -source.jar for dbutils 1.1 by hand. Any
 complaints if I add that to the Maven repository?
 
 It's attached to the issue it was requested in:
 
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DBUTILS-35
 
 I imagine the next DbUtils release will use Maven2, so I'm not
 bothering to work on the maven.xml or build.xml to make this happen in
 Maven1 and Ant.
 
 Hen
 
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Re: LICENSE and NOTICE in javadoc jar (Was: [VOTE] IO 1.3 (RC3))

2007-01-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt
-1 to dropping that, since a javadoc jar is a release too, which needs a 
license and notice. If we
haven't done that in the past, doesn't mean we have to continue not to do that.

Mvgr,
Martin

Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
 On 1/26/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 2) Javadoc jar for Maven includes LICENSE and NOTICE.
 
 It is news to me, that that's a requirement. I am unaware of any build
 script that ensures it. Please note, we are talking about the javadocs
 jar file. not the actual meat (source and binaries). Couldn't we drop
 that for the future, please?
 
 Jochen
 
 

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Re: LICENSE and NOTICE in javadoc jar (Was: [VOTE] IO 1.3 (RC3))

2007-01-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Agreed..

Mvgr,
Martin

Jörg Schaible wrote:
 Then you need'em also in the artifactId-version-sources.jar ...
 
 Martin van den Bemt wrote on Friday, January 26, 2007 9:38 AM:
 
 -1 to dropping that, since a javadoc jar is a release too,
 which needs a license and notice. If we
 haven't done that in the past, doesn't mean we have to
 continue not to do that.

 Mvgr,
 Martin

 Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
 On 1/26/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2) Javadoc jar for Maven includes LICENSE and NOTICE.
 It is news to me, that that's a requirement. I am unaware of any
 build script that ensures it. Please note, we are talking about the
 javadocs jar file. not the actual meat (source and binaries).
 Couldn't we drop that for the future, please? 

 Jochen


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Re: [all] Jira reporting

2007-01-20 Thread Martin van den Bemt
That sounds nice, but than the vote needs to be on general :)
I would be an favor of that..

Mvgr,
Martin

Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 
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Re: [all] when are svn commit mails generated ?

2007-01-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I am doing user, general, private, cvs, etc (and need to find the gaps that are 
currently at
Jakarta). Also a couple of non jakarta lists though.. 98% is spam and nicely 
marked as such :)
So if someone else can also step up that would be great (I don't mind another 
list though)

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
 I want to quit the moderating scene tbh. It's a pretty easy thing to
 do, so I'm hoping I can hand them off to others.
 
 I think I'm doing:
 
 commons-dev@
 commons-user@
 general@
 
 Would be nice to get off those.
 
 Hen
 
 On 1/16/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can add me, although I am not as quick as you are :)

 Mvgr,
 Martin

 Henri Yandell wrote:
  On 1/16/07, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 1/16/07, Luc Maisonobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hello,
  
   I just realized recently that not all commits to the subversion base
   generated mails to the dev list.
 
 
  Not true.
 
  Since the repository is also shared by other Apache projects
 outside of
   commons, I thought there was some filter for commons, based for
 example
   on directories tree structure. However, I performed a small
 commit for
   three files in [math] yesterday which bumped version to r496489
 and no
   mail was generated. Since it was my very first commit, I am a little
   affraid I can have done something wrong.
 
 
  Most likely, since it was your first commit, the commit message is
  sitting
  in the moderation queue, waiting for a moderator to approve it (and
  add your
  address to the allowed posters).
 
  It was in the queue and I've been on the end of a bad connection for a
  few days. If anyone feels like becoming a mailing list moderator 
  :)
 
  Hen
 
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Re: [all] when are svn commit mails generated ?

2007-01-16 Thread Martin van den Bemt
You can add me, although I am not as quick as you are :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
 On 1/16/07, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/16/07, Luc Maisonobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I just realized recently that not all commits to the subversion base
  generated mails to the dev list.


 Not true.

 Since the repository is also shared by other Apache projects outside of
  commons, I thought there was some filter for commons, based for example
  on directories tree structure. However, I performed a small commit for
  three files in [math] yesterday which bumped version to r496489 and no
  mail was generated. Since it was my very first commit, I am a little
  affraid I can have done something wrong.


 Most likely, since it was your first commit, the commit message is
 sitting
 in the moderation queue, waiting for a moderator to approve it (and
 add your
 address to the allowed posters).
 
 It was in the queue and I've been on the end of a bad connection for a
 few days. If anyone feels like becoming a mailing list moderator 
 :)
 
 Hen
 
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Re: [VOTE] Promote commons-site to proper and release it

2007-01-13 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1 to both, assuming the project documentation on the main site has nothing to 
do with the skin,
since I think we don't want that menu on the main site.

Mvgr,
Martin

Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 I have laid the finishing touches to commons-skin and feel that it is
 ready for prime time. Therefor I would like to propose two votes:
 
 
 1. Promote commons-skin from commons sandbox to commons proper.
 
 [ ] +1 Do it
 [ ] -1 No not yet, because...
 
 
 2. Release commons-skin 1.0 based on revision 495809. I have not created
 an RC for it, since it is in the sandbox. If that is needed, I'll do it
 once the move to commons proper has been completed.
 
 Examples of how it looks can be found at the address below, where the
 entire sandbox has been staged. Note that the staged sites have been
 built with Maven components that were built from SVN and have not yet
 been released.
 
 http://people.apache.org/~dennisl/commons-sandbox/
 
 [ ] +1 Do it
 [ ] -1 No not yet, because...
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Add Matt Benson as a Jakarta committer

2007-01-05 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
 As you can see on the list, Matt would like to help out with JXPath.
 Matt's been an Ant committer since Feb 2004. He's been active on the
 dev/user lists over the last couple of years, so not a new face here
 either.
 
 [ ] +1
 [ ] -1
 
 Will end the vote on Tuesday morning.
 
 Hen
 
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Re: [VOTE][VFS] release commons-vfs 1.0 based on RC10

2006-12-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Even though I like to see the record breaking effort of RC, while we are at it, 
really at an
unbreakable level like 50 ;)

However, there doesn't seem to be a reason to get you started on the 11th one, 
so +1 :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Mario Ivankovits wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Please don't laugh ... I don't know if there ever was a to be released 
 Jakarta project with so many RCs.
 Be patient with me, I hope in the future we can go more straight forward.
 
 
 Changed:
 * The ant build succeeded, but in the resulting jar the LICENSE.txt was 
 missing (only NOTICE.txt is copied to META-INF).
 
 
 
 Please find the RC at
 http://people.apache.org/~imario/vfs
 
 The site can be reviewed at
 http://people.apache.org/~imario/vfs-1.0/site
 
 
 
 [ ] +1  I support this release
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -0
 [ ] -1  I do not support this release because...
 
 
 
 Thanks for your time!
 
 ---
 Mario
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Luc Maisonobe as Jakarta Commons committer

2006-12-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1

Mvgr,
Martin

Phil Steitz wrote:
 I would like to nominate Luc Maisonobe as a Jakarta Commons committer.
 Luc has made a major contribution to commons-math in the Mantissa
 library and has also contributed to discussion and Jira tickets
 related to other parts of [math].  His openness to feedback and
 diligence in resolving IP-related issues as we went through the
 incubator IP clearance process demonstrated his commitment to open
 development @apache.
 
 I think Luc will make a great addition to the apache committer
 community.  Here is my +1.
 
 Votes, please.  This vote will close end of (GMT) day, 23-Dec-06.  Thanks!
 
 Phil
 
 8---
 
 [  ] +1 Let him commit!
 [  ] +0
 [  ] -0
 [  ] -1 No, because...
 
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Re: commons-ssl-0.3.4 alpha released

2006-11-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I asked to start a proposal on [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this, that way we can 
have a discussion on
where it should end up.. I'll await that proposal and to decrease confusion I 
like to ask Julius to
withhold announcements for the time being.

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
 Hi Julius,
 
 What's the status with regards to this bit on the website:
 
 Commons-SSL was originally developed by Credit Union Central of
 British Columbia. It was donated to the Apache Software Foundation in
 August 2006 and is now slowly starting the Apache
 Incubation Policy.
 
 In terms of the CLA - it doesn't look like you're an Apache committer
 yet. Was there a particular project you were joining when you sent the
 CLA?
 
 In terms of the CCLA - have you requested a signed copy? I don't think
 they're sent by default. However I don't see a CCLA on record for
 CUBC.
 
 I've no problem with this ending up in Commons someday - but so far
 this seems like something for which the subject should be more about
 Jakarta sponsoring in the Incubator, than starting in Commons-Sandbox.
 [I did the latter for CSV, and I think with hindsight it would have
 been better to go through the Incubator].
 
 Hen
 
 On 11/29/06, Julius Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm writing to announce the alpha release of commons-ssl-0.3.4.  I'm
 writing to commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org because I think
 commons-sandbox would be a great home for this library.  The library
 itself is derived from some HttpClient code originally written by Oleg
 Kalnichevski.

 http://juliusdavies.ca/commons-ssl/


 Here are a few features of note:

 1.  This library gives you the ability to read OpenSSL style private
 keys using only pure Java.  It even works with Java 1.3.  I tried to
 encrypt the same RSA private keys in as many ways as possible (106 so
 far!) with OpenSSL to test this:

 http://juliusdavies.ca/commons-ssl/samples/rsa_result.html

 2.  The library automatically does CRL checking.  (We hope to add
 support for OCSP soon!).

 3.  All options can be toggled on a per-socket-factory basis.  So for
 one SSLSocketFactory you might have setCheckHostname( false ), and on
 another you might have setCheckExpiry( false ) if you like.

 4.  Can be dropped into any project easily because we extend
 SSLSocketFactory and SSLServerSocketFactory.  For example, to use as
 an ldaps:// client you just define your own extremely basic
 sub-class:

 =
 package my.special.package;
 public class LDAPSocketFactory extends SSLClient {

   public static SocketFactory getDefault() { return instance; }

   private final static LDAPSocket instance;
   static {
 try { instance = new LDAPSocket(); }
 catch ( Exception e ) { throw new RuntimeException( e ); }
   }

   private LDAPSocket() throws GeneralSecurityException, IOException {
 TrustMaterial tm = new TrustMaterial(
 /path/to/corporate/ldap.pem );
 setTrustMaterial( tm ); // We ONLY trust our ldap.pem.  cacerts
 ignored!

 KeyMaterial km = new KeyMaterial( /path/to/pkcs12.der,
 secret.toCharArray() );
 setKeyMaterial( km ); // Maybe our ldaps:// requires client certs?
   }
 }
 =

 And then tell Java to use it like so:

 env.put( java.naming.ldap.factory.socket,
 my.special.package.LDAPSocketFactory );

 Java looks for the static getDefault() method when you provide a
 SocketFactory like that to the LDAP stuff.


 I already have a personal CLA on file with Apache.  I'm not sure
 what's up with the Corporate CLA / Software Grant my employer (Credit
 Union Central of British Columbia) sent in August.  Last time I
 checked, CUCBC has yet to recieve a signed copy for their own records.

 -- 
 yours,

 Julius Davies
 416-652-0183
 http://juliusdavies.ca/

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Re: [betwixt] please check RC1

2006-11-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Thanx for beating me to it :) (very swamped atm).. I ran the tests and had a look at the rc and it 
looks good :)


Mvgr,
Martin

Thomas Dudziak wrote:

On 11/8/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'll have a look tomorrow evening (and testrun on ddlutils).. Sorry 
for being unresponsive..


Sorry, I meant to response, too.
I've checked DdlUitls against the RC, and it looks good. I've updated
DdlUtils with the RC jar so that I can put a DdlUtils RC sometime this
week.

cheers,
Tom

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Re: [betwixt] please check RC1

2006-11-08 Thread Martin van den Bemt

I'll have a look tomorrow evening (and testrun on ddlutils).. Sorry for being 
unresponsive..

Mvgr,
Martin

robert burrell donkin wrote:

http://people.apache.org/~rdonkin/commons-betwixt

- robert



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Re: [betwixt] Propose 0.8 Release

2006-11-01 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Looks good Robert..

Mvgr,
Martin

robert burrell donkin wrote:

i've taken a good look at the code base, tidied up some legal issues and
some bad speiling. looks good. so, i've created a minimal release plan
here: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/Betwixt/0.8ReleasePlan.
unless there are any other volunteers, i'll act as release managers.

sound ok?

- robert 




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Re: [feedparser] Security patch

2006-10-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Not yet.. I'll see if I can find some cycles tomorrow..
(Still on a holiday though and internet is not very stable over here)

Mvgr,
Martin

Nick Lothian wrote:

Did this get applied? I don't think I've seen the commit email

On 10/12/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I will apply the patch when no one beats me to it..

Mvgr,
Martin

Nick Lothian wrote:
 
  I'm aware that FeedParser is a dormant project, but the attached 
patch

  will fix the same problem in the Apache-Commons project version.

 FeedParser def isn't dormant

 http://code.tailrank.com/feedparser

 I just haven't officially announced that I'm moving it out of Apache.
 Just
 been to busy with official work to be a good maintainer :-/


 Sorry - I didn't mean to imply that you aren't working on it - I know
 you've made the Tailrank stream available.

 All I meant was that FeedParser is listed in
 http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/dormant/index.html, which I believe
 means that no one is actively maintaining the Apache version.

 Nick

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Re: [betwixt] What's needed for a 0.8 release ?

2006-10-16 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Highly appreciated Robert..

Mvgr,
Martin

robert burrell donkin wrote:

On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 13:57 -0700, Thomas Dudziak wrote:

Hi folks,


hi thomas


as we're reading the 1.0 release of DdlUtils, Martin noticed that we
currently use a SVN build of commons-betwixt. Since we very much would
like to have a proper released betwixt version instead, I wanted to
ask what needs to be done for a 0.8 release. 


makes sense. i don't recall anything in particular that was really
needed for a release (but i've been really busy and haven't really done
any betwixt development for months)


I'd be happy to help
getting these things done, if someone could e.g. mark the issues
necessary for 0.8 in JIRA ?


i'll try to find some time in the next day or two

- robert



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Re: [feedparser] Security patch

2006-10-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt

I will apply the patch when no one beats me to it..

Mvgr,
Martin

Nick Lothian wrote:


 I'm aware that FeedParser is a dormant project, but the attached patch
 will fix the same problem in the Apache-Commons project version.

FeedParser def isn't dormant

http://code.tailrank.com/feedparser

I just haven't officially announced that I'm moving it out of Apache.  
Just

been to busy with official work to be a good maintainer :-/



Sorry - I didn't mean to imply that you aren't working on it - I know
you've made the Tailrank stream available.

All I meant was that FeedParser is listed in
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/dormant/index.html, which I believe
means that no one is actively maintaining the Apache version.

Nick

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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons JEXL 1.1

2006-09-01 Thread Martin van den Bemt

I'll check it this weekend :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Rahul Akolkar wrote:

Ran the usual gamut of checks, looks good to me.

snip/

---
[X] +1  I support this release
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1  I oppose this release because...



snap/

-Rahul

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Andrew Shirley as committer?

2006-09-01 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Any news on this ? Or did I completely overlook something ?

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

On 8/4/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'd like to propose Andrew Shirley as a committer. Andrew's been doing
tons for the CLI component - answering user questions, commenting on
jira issues and serving up patches and unit tests to both his issues
and other peoples issues. The only reason I've hesitated until
recently is because CLI didn't have a clear direction (now it does).

[ ] +1
[ ] -1


Vote ends Wednesday 9th August.


Vote passes.

Binding +1s

Davanum Srinivas
Niall Pemberton
Craig McClanahan
Rahul Akolkar
Oliver Heger
Martin van den Bemt
Phil Steitz
Mario Ivankovits
(I really need to remember to vote +1 from me too).

Non-binding +1s

Jörg Schaible

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Andrew Shirley as committer?

2006-09-01 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Thanx for clearing that up Andrew :) I was worried that something in the 
process somewhere went wrong :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Andrew Shirley wrote:

On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 08:57:30AM +0200, Martin van den Bemt wrote:

Any news on this ? Or did I completely overlook something ?



Hi, 
   Firstly, apologies for not thanking the list for voting for this.

Unfortunately due to some overly harsh procmail rules I didn't see the
vote and only found out about this when Henri emailed me off list later.
I have a signed CLA on my desk but havn't had a chance to fax it yet.
Hopefully I will be able to do that this weekend and can progress from
there.

Thank you once again.

Andrew Shirley

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Re: Apache SVN pointers

2006-08-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt

My sincere apologies ..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

Try again. There was a missing comma in the configuration file.

Hen

On 8/25/06, Kris Nuttycombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Also, running svnpasswd also directs one to the same site, so my
password *should* be okay.


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Re: JIRA Component Versions

2006-08-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Every PMC should be able to do this, so enough people on this list. (just added dennisl to the 
jakarta-administrators)


Mvgr,
Martin

Dennis Lundberg wrote:

Rory Winston wrote:
Hi guysAnyone got any idea how to add a new version to a JIRA 
component (so I can assign issues against it in the roadmap)?


Cheers
R


On the project start page in JIRA, i.e. 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NET
there should be a link Administer Project below the Create a new 
issue in project nn link.


If you don't see the link you don't have enough rights in JIRA - ask a 
JIRA admin if you need more rights. To find out what rights you 
currently have click the Profile link in the top right corner. Your 
rights are listed in the left column under Groups.



Once you get to the admin page just click on Manage versions.




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Re: JIRA Component Versions

2006-08-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt

What's the user you login with ?
I found someone with the same name :) (if you found in the groups you are a jakarta-developer, than 
something is wrong with our permissions scheme, since it should allow you to add versions)


Mvgr,
Martin

Rory Winston wrote:
Could someone add me to the admins list so I can create new versions? I 
dont seem to have the appropriate privileges at present


Thanks in advance
ROory
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Every PMC should be able to do this, so enough people on this list. 
(just added dennisl to the jakarta-administrators)


Mvgr,
Martin

Dennis Lundberg wrote:

Rory Winston wrote:
Hi guysAnyone got any idea how to add a new version to a JIRA 
component (so I can assign issues against it in the roadmap)?


Cheers
R


On the project start page in JIRA, i.e. 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NET
there should be a link Administer Project below the Create a new 
issue in project nn link.


If you don't see the link you don't have enough rights in JIRA - ask 
a JIRA admin if you need more rights. To find out what rights you 
currently have click the Profile link in the top right corner. Your 
rights are listed in the left column under Groups.



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Re: JIRA Component Versions

2006-08-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Added you to jakarta-administrators. I created a test user to see what it could do, but indeed no 
possibility to add versions..


Mvgr,
Martin

Rory Winston wrote:
Thanks for the reply Martin. I can create new issues, but I dont see the 
Administer project link anywhere. I'm logging on as [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks
Rory

Martin van den Bemt wrote:

What's the user you login with ?
I found someone with the same name :) (if you found in the groups you 
are a jakarta-developer, than something is wrong with our permissions 
scheme, since it should allow you to add versions)


Mvgr,
Martin

Rory Winston wrote:
Could someone add me to the admins list so I can create new versions? 
I dont seem to have the appropriate privileges at present


Thanks in advance
ROory
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Every PMC should be able to do this, so enough people on this list. 
(just added dennisl to the jakarta-administrators)


Mvgr,
Martin

Dennis Lundberg wrote:

Rory Winston wrote:
Hi guysAnyone got any idea how to add a new version to a JIRA 
component (so I can assign issues against it in the roadmap)?


Cheers
R


On the project start page in JIRA, i.e. 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NET
there should be a link Administer Project below the Create a new 
issue in project nn link.


If you don't see the link you don't have enough rights in JIRA - 
ask a JIRA admin if you need more rights. To find out what rights 
you currently have click the Profile link in the top right 
corner. Your rights are listed in the left column under Groups.



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Re: [VOTE] Kris Nuttycombe as committer?

2006-08-06 Thread Martin van den Bemt

+1..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

I'd like to nominate Kris as a committer. Kris has been active on the
developer mailing list concerning the pipeline component for over a
year, and has been involved on other threads as well (notably
digester).

I think he's been around long enough to have picked up the way of
doing things and it'll be good for pipeline (and ultimately commons).

[ ] +1
[ ] -1

Vote ends Wednesday 9th August.

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Re: [VOTE] Andrew Shirley as committer?

2006-08-06 Thread Martin van den Bemt

+1

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

I'd like to propose Andrew Shirley as a committer. Andrew's been doing
tons for the CLI component - answering user questions, commenting on
jira issues and serving up patches and unit tests to both his issues
and other peoples issues. The only reason I've hesitated until
recently is because CLI didn't have a clear direction (now it does).

[ ] +1
[ ] -1


Vote ends Wednesday 9th August.

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[blog] Observations :)

2006-07-23 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Hi everyone,

I have been following the blog closely and it's a nice concept (and probably usable outside commons 
as well). Although I can see the humor in Interviewing myself again, it would be nice if someone 
else did that :)


To give to right example, I would like to interview Rahul Akolkar about SCXML.

I will ping Rahul (unless he really doesn't want to), when I have the questions (currently have a 
deadline, so will probably do that after wednesday)..

If preferred we can also wait till version 0.5 has been released :)

Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: [all] Splitting the mailing list

2006-07-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt

+1 on both.. Although I would also like to see the wiki notifications moved to 
the commits list.
The only thing that needs to be done to actually make this work, is to actually advertise the 
mailinglist splitup. I missed the fact at some projects (don't remember which ones though), there 
was a seperate commit / jira list.
So we need to adjust the docs of all projects, the mail2 page and regenerate the site when we do the 
move.

I am in favour of autosubscribing everyone who is currently on dev.

Mvgr,
Martin


Henri Yandell wrote:

A while back Maven moved to having the commits and issues on different
mailing lists and it seems to be going well.

So I'd like to suggest:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  - reply-to to commons-dev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - reply-to to commons-dev

I think the wiki notifications should stay on the dev list as they're
relatively low in number and they don't require any kind of restricted
authentication to get involved with. Any contributor can hop in and
fix a spelling mistake.

The obvious worry is over new committers not subscribing to those
lists. Firstly we can obviously make a point of mentioning that to new
committers - but mostly I think the number of Re: svn commit and Re:
[JIRA] emails that will appear will make them wonder what they're
missing.

Another advantage of the above just happened on the Tomcat list. A
mistake by a committer caused 2700 svn commits to be sent out (to
nearly 1000 subscribers). The ASF mail server took a good many hours
to recover - most of the day I think. So both those kind of errors,
and the large JIRA reorgs we've been doing would be hitting less
people.

One question:

Do we automatically subscribe everyone on dev@ and let them
unsubscribe. Or start the lists empty.

Hen

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Re: [DONE] Re: Bugzilla-Jira migration

2006-07-19 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Done.. Only added for rwinston at eircom dot net, not for rwinst at checkfree dot com. If you need 
it on the latter account to, let me know..


Mvgr,
Martin

Rory Winston wrote:

Can someone give me rights to administer issues on the [net]

Thanks
Rory

Oliver Heger wrote:


Henri Yandell wrote:


On 5/27/06, Oliver Heger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 5/16/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The current structure is such that there are two groups. 'jakarta
 developers' and  'jakarta administrators'. I'm setting it so that 
the

 former maps onto committers, the latter onto PMC members.

 Thus the PMC can administer any Jakarta project - including adding
 people to the relevant groups etc.


Hi,

my jira account (oliver.heger at t-online.de) seems to have only rights
of the jira user group, so I can't edit bugs. Can you give me more
rights (or even better: create a new account for oheger at apache.org,
for my mail address has changed anyway)?



More rights added. If you create a new user I can transfer the rights
over, will leave that to you though.

Hen


Many thanks, Hen!

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Re: [attributes] Planning a release

2006-07-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt
FYI maven 2 also has a commons-attributes plugin, written by (presumable) Carlos Sanchez (at least 
from the website).

http://mojo.codehaus.org/commons-attributes-maven-plugin/

Maybe Carlos is interested to get involved ?
(cc-ed him)

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

On 7/9/06, Leo Sutic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Getting 2.2 out would be a nice endcap, and if you could just get the
thing out in accordance with specs, that would be absolutely
fantastic. I'll stick around to get 2.2 out if $SOMEONE_ELSE (you) do
the release manager stuff.



Which build system is the most used with attributes, Ant or Maven?

Are we releasing the Plugin as well as the two jars? Currently the build is

maven install-snapshot
maven install-plugin

because the plugin depends on the snapshot 2.2 versions. Should the
plugin update to 2.2 dependencies?

The ant dist creates the 3 zips. Do you then zip that up as the
release, and zip up a source tree as the source release?

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Re: [attributes] Planning a release

2006-07-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Meant you may be interested in maintaining commons-attributes, because of the 
maven2 plugin :)
(assuming you are actually using commons-attributes)..

Mvgr,
Martin

Carlos Sanchez wrote:

mmm, were you talking about getting commons-attributes maven 1 plugin
released? the truth is that I never used it

On 7/10/06, Carlos Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It's as easy as adding

  plugin
groupIdorg.codehaus.mojo/groupId
artifactIdcommons-attributes-maven-plugin/artifactId
version1.0/version
executions
  execution
configuration
  includes
!-- here you include the classes you want to process --
include**/metadata/*.java/include
  /includes
/configuration
goals
  goalcompile/goal
/goals
  /execution
/executions
  /plugin


On 7/10/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 FYI maven 2 also has a commons-attributes plugin, written by 
(presumable) Carlos Sanchez (at least

 from the website).
 http://mojo.codehaus.org/commons-attributes-maven-plugin/

 Maybe Carlos is interested to get involved ?
 (cc-ed him)

 Mvgr,
 Martin

 Henri Yandell wrote:
  On 7/9/06, Leo Sutic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Getting 2.2 out would be a nice endcap, and if you could just get 
the

  thing out in accordance with specs, that would be absolutely
  fantastic. I'll stick around to get 2.2 out if $SOMEONE_ELSE 
(you) do

  the release manager stuff.
 
 
  Which build system is the most used with attributes, Ant or Maven?
 
  Are we releasing the Plugin as well as the two jars? Currently the 
build is

 
  maven install-snapshot
  maven install-plugin
 
  because the plugin depends on the snapshot 2.2 versions. Should the
  plugin update to 2.2 dependencies?
 
  The ant dist creates the 3 zips. Do you then zip that up as the
  release, and zip up a source tree as the source release?
 
  Hen
 
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[jira] Commented: (SANDBOX-71) [id] Sporadic test failures in TimeBasesAlphanumericIdentifierGeneratorTest

2006-07-05 Thread Martin van den Bemt (JIRA)
[ 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SANDBOX-71?page=comments#action_12419269 ] 

Martin van den Bemt commented on SANDBOX-71:


Maybe this is some interesting story : 
http://www.wmware.com/psf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf (If I am not mistaking we (ehh 
gump) are running on vmware and not on solaris zones (else this doc is pretty 
much useless). Gump runs on debian btw.
In short  : a kernel option : clock=pit  and in the vmx file the setting 
tools.syncTime=true (fixed our timing problems on some vmware servers.)
Maybe pining infrastructure to see if this is an option that they can set ?

 [id] Sporadic test failures in TimeBasesAlphanumericIdentifierGeneratorTest
 ---

  Key: SANDBOX-71
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SANDBOX-71
  Project: Commons Sandbox
 Type: Bug

   Components: Id
  Environment: Operating System: other
 Platform: All
 Reporter: Joerg Schaible
 Assignee: Joerg Schaible
  Attachments: TimeBasedAIGTest.patch

 The unit tests for TimeBasesAlphanumericIdentifierGenerator fail with Gump
 sometimes for unknown reason. Unfortunately it seems, that the exactly test
 reports are unavailable. Nevertheless I suspect timing problems that interfere
 and may fail running the fixtures of the test within the same time slice.
 Therefore was in setUp() a sleep(50) call that might fail to create a unique
 operation environment for each test fixture depending on the OS/hardware
 environment. This synchronization has been replaced with an explicit loop
 waiting for the next time slice.

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Re: svn commit: r418646 - /jakarta/commons/proper/math/trunk/src/test/org/apache/commons/math/random/RandomDataTest.java

2006-07-04 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Thanx for a more rigid explenation :)

Mvgr,
Martin

Luc Maisonobe wrote:

Martin van den Bemt wrote :

I read somewhere that linux will speed up doing encryption when eg the 
keyboard is used (those tokens are used in the linux SecureRandom 
generator.



It is true when the generator is based on bytes read from the 
/dev/random device, false when /dev/urandom device is used. The former 
can block read access when the entropy pool gathering environmental 
noise is empty. This pool is replenished when events caused by keyboard 
use, mouse motion and interrupts from disk or other devices. This is the 
price to pay for cryptographically secure randomness except if you 
motherborad has some hardware-based random generator chip supported by 
the kernel (I think there are some) ... However this is far beyond the 
scope of this list.


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Re: svn commit: r418646 - /jakarta/commons/proper/math/trunk/src/test/org/apache/commons/math/random/RandomDataTest.java

2006-07-03 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Don't laugh :)
I read somewhere that linux will speed up doing encryption when eg the keyboard is used (those 
tokens are used in the linux SecureRandom generator.


Disclaimer : I ain't no expert on this, just read something somewhere..

Mvgr,
Martin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Author: psteitz
Date: Sun Jul  2 13:31:25 2006
New Revision: 418646

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=418646view=rev
Log:
Suspended setSecureAlgorithm test, since it takes several minutes on Ubuntu.

Modified:

jakarta/commons/proper/math/trunk/src/test/org/apache/commons/math/random/RandomDataTest.java

Modified: 
jakarta/commons/proper/math/trunk/src/test/org/apache/commons/math/random/RandomDataTest.java
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/commons/proper/math/trunk/src/test/org/apache/commons/math/random/RandomDataTest.java?rev=418646r1=418645r2=418646view=diff
==
--- 
jakarta/commons/proper/math/trunk/src/test/org/apache/commons/math/random/RandomDataTest.java
 (original)
+++ 
jakarta/commons/proper/math/trunk/src/test/org/apache/commons/math/random/RandomDataTest.java
 Sun Jul  2 13:31:25 2006
@@ -419,7 +419,7 @@
 !hex.equals(randomData.nextSecureHexString(40))); 
 
 /* remove this test back soon,

- * since it takes about 4 seconds */
+ * since it takes about 4 seconds 
 
 try {

 randomData.setSecureAlgorithm(SHA1PRNG,SUN);
@@ -443,6 +443,7 @@
 } catch (NoSuchProviderException ex) {
 ;
 } 
+*/
 
 // test reseeding without first using the generators

 RandomDataImpl rd = new RandomDataImpl();



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Re: [csv] j2se1.3 compatibility / header line writer

2006-05-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt



urs hardegger wrote:

netcetera suggests the following changes to commons csv:


   1) CSVPartser.java:
StringBuffer.append(StringBuffer) is no supported in JDK 1.3.
  It would be a pitty to have an incompatibility because
  of this issue. In case this is performance critical,
  we surround this with an if statement for the JDK version.


It is supported in jdk1.3.. Just cast the stringbuffer passed in to an object, 
so like
StringBuffer.append((Object) StringBuffer)). Much more efficient than an if...

Mvgr,
Martin


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Re: [csv] j2se1.3 compatibility / header line writer

2006-05-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Nicolas De Loof wrote:



It is supported in jdk1.3.. Just cast the stringbuffer passed in to 
an object, so like
StringBuffer.append((Object) StringBuffer)). Much more efficient than 
an if...




Surely a StringBuffer is already an Object?

Or am I missing something here?

StringBuffer has a new method in Java 1.4 to append another Stringbuffer 
without invoking it's toSring() method.
Code that uses StringBuffer.append(stb) and compiled by a JDK 1.4 will 
not work on Java 1.3.
I miself recommand Using  StringBuffer.append(stb.toString()) that 
looks better than an apparently useless (Object) cast : checkstyle or 
IDE may warn for unecessary cast.


Also may be a solution, which looks more readable. Though I fixed all these StringBuffer issues I 
had personally by adding the not very useless Object cast (this way you prevent the usage of the 
overloaded method which takes a StringBuffer). This way I don't have to worry whats under the covers 
, which in this case is according to you a toString().


Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: [csv] j2se1.3 compatibility / header line writer

2006-05-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt

That just works when compiling on jdk1.3 and will not work on jdk1.3 when 
compiled on jdk1.4
To prevent this, you specifically have to cast it to object to say use the append which takes an 
object or as Nicolas suggested a toString(), but the last one is not my favorite solution..


Mvgr,
Martin

sebb wrote:

On 22/05/06, Nicolas De Loof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 It is supported in jdk1.3.. Just cast the stringbuffer passed in to
 an object, so like
 StringBuffer.append((Object) StringBuffer)). Much more efficient than
 an if...


 Surely a StringBuffer is already an Object?

 Or am I missing something here?

StringBuffer has a new method in Java 1.4 to append another Stringbuffer
without invoking it's toSring() method.
Code that uses StringBuffer.append(stb) and compiled by a JDK 1.4 will
not work on Java 1.3.
I miself recommand Using  StringBuffer.append(stb.toString()) that
looks better than an apparently useless (Object) cast : checkstyle or
IDE may warn for unecessary cast.



But that won't work so well on Java 1.4+.

Can't one just use:

sb1.append(sb2);

for both 1.3 and 1.4, and let the method do the work as needed?

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Re: [VOTE][all] Switch to Jira

2006-05-03 Thread Martin van den Bemt
They need to be migrated over when Atlassian has a way to accomplish this (at least I heard there 
was no option yet to export a project and reimport it again in another jira instance)


Mvgr,
Martin

Felipe Leme wrote:

On 5/2/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'd like to call a vote that we switch to Jira. Here's the loose 
migration plan:



+1


* For each of the 37 components
** Create new project - name: Commons Xxxx,  key  .



What would happen with projects already on Jira, like Jelly?

-- Felipe

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Re: [VOTE][all] Switch to Jira

2006-05-03 Thread Martin van den Bemt

+1..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:
I'd like to call a vote that we switch to Jira. Here's the loose 
migration plan:



* Make Bugzilla read-only
* Import Commons project in Bugzilla into Commons project in JIRA
This will pull over users, components, versions etc.
* Setup notification scheme
* Setup permission scheme
* Setup group
* For each of the 37 components
** Create new project - name: Commons Xxxx,  key  .
** Assign notification, permission and group
** Create relevant versions
** View component, bulk move all issues to new project
* Cleanup Commons project (we'll  still use it as a
catch-all). Delete components/versions.

The 37 components don't all have to be set up at the same time, we can
take our time to move things out of the Commons project and into the
individual Commons Foo projects.


[ ] +1
[ ] -1


Vote to last 72 hours, 3 +1s required, 3/4 of active vote being +1.

Hen

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Re: [jelly] Migration effect Was: [VOTE][all] Switch to Jira

2006-05-03 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Sorry for the confusion, thought it was running on codehaus...

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

We're going to be in the same Jira as Jelly, so no ned for migrating etc.

Hen

On 5/3/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They need to be migrated over when Atlassian has a way to accomplish 
this (at least I heard there
was no option yet to export a project and reimport it again in another 
jira instance)


Mvgr,
Martin



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Re: [all] Jira?

2006-04-28 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Big +1 on a move to jira..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

I know Jelly are on Jira already, and Struts have just moved over to
Jira. Wondering what the view is nowadays on Commons moving to Jira?

Hen

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Re: [all][bugzilla] New component SCXML

2006-04-20 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Added..

Mvgr,
Martin

Rahul Akolkar wrote:

BZ admins,

Given the move of [scxml] to Proper and some of the recent feedback on
the component name, I'd like to request a new Component under Commons
-- SCXML (upper case).

Thanks,
-Rahul

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Re: [all][bugzilla] New component SCXML

2006-04-20 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Renamed.. Just for future knowledge : first you need to rename the component to eg chain2 and then 
change it back to Chain. Straight renaming from chain to Chain doesnn't work..


Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

BZ admins - while you're in there could you change attributes to
Attributes and chain to Chain?

It messes the order up in some of the reports. Unsure if we can just
go changing component text or not.

Thanks,

Hen

On 4/20/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


BZ admins,

Given the move of [scxml] to Proper and some of the recent feedback on
the component name, I'd like to request a new Component under Commons
-- SCXML (upper case).

Thanks,
-Rahul

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Re: [VOTE] Promote SCXML to Proper

2006-04-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1, since all my concerns I had in the last vote are handled (besides the activity, now alos support 
from developers seems to be there by Craig and Dion).


Mvgr,
Martin

Rahul Akolkar wrote:

I propose, for the second time, that we move [scxml] to Commons
Proper. As a quick reminder, the first vote [1] called three months
ago was -1'ed for lack of developer support.

--
[ ] +1 Move [scxml] to Commons Proper
[ ] +0 I am fine with this move
[ ] -0 I am not too keen, because ...
[ ] -1 I am against this move, because ...
--

This VOTE will remain open for a minimum of 72 hours.

Why this proposal? Some data points, in no particular order (worth
stressing that sentences prefixed by IMO are my opinions):

 * Repository-wise, [scxml] remains the most active component in the
Commons sandbox. Most activity is building in new features, rather
than iterating over any existing core (see commit messages in dev
archives).

 * [scxml] is the most active sandbox component on the user list. Many
users are keen on using it, reminders about the sandbox status of the
component are handed out frequently (see user list archives). User
demand has driven many of the latest changes to the code.

 * IMO, there is enough interest in the concept amongst Commons
developers (see CommonsPeople wiki page). The code has been looked at
critically by more than one Commons developers (see Tim's bugathon in
BZ).

 * A [scxml] release will pave the way for a RDC 1.1 (its parent
project) which is overdue in Taglibs, and already incorporates a
SCXML-based dialog management strategy. IMO, [scxml] can add value to
other projects within the ASF. Outside projects have also shown
interest in using Commons SCXML as well (see this reference [2] in
Eclipse land).

 * IMO, [scxml] brings in new ideas and people to Commons, and in the
long run, its existence may also prove beneficial to its upstream
Commons components such as JEXL.

-Rahul

[1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=113709951301607w=2
[2] http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/vtp-dev/msg00151.html

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Re: [all] Maven 1.0 vs. 2.0

2006-04-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I have a vote in my mailbox somewhere about a move of proxy, but I never saw a vote result, so by 
this I assume the vote never passed or have not received the vote result. Any pointers ?


Mvgr,
Martin

James Carman wrote:

All,

What's the standard build system for Jakarta Commons right now?  I know
folks have been trying to move to M2, but is it stable enough and does it
support all we need currently (like sshdeploy and the like)?  I'd like to
move Commons Proxy to the proper, but my M2 build isn't quite working the
way I want it.

James



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Re: [logging] redux: include jdk logger in API jar?

2006-03-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I am in favor of putting it back (don't consider this binding though). Being able to be a drop in 
replacement of previous versions is pretty important for logging I think..


Mvgr,
Martin

robert burrell donkin wrote:

remy ran a regression test for RC6 (thanks :)

we no long ship the jdk logger in API jar. however, tomcat uses jdk
logger as it's default. so, by excluding the jdk logger, JCL 1.1 is no
longer a drop in replacement at least for tomcat.

so, i thought it'd be a good time to reconsider the decision to exclude
the jdk logger.

opinions?

- robert 



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Re: [VOTE] Release IO 1.2

2006-03-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt

+1..

With a note : I like to see a cleanup of issues. Where there is a request for eg a testcase, maybe 
just close the issue and if issues (most of the enhancements) could be applicable for this release, 
some note on why not added to the current release.

This can be done after the release, but this can prevent from issues being open 
forever..

Mvgr,
Martin

Stephen Colebourne wrote:

This is a vote for the release [io] v1.2

RC2 is here:
http://people.apache.org/~scolebourne/commons-io/

Site here:
http://people.apache.org/~scolebourne/commons-io/site/

Release notes here:
http://people.apache.org/~scolebourne/commons-io/site/upgradeto1_2.html


[ ] +1  I support this release
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1  I do not support this release because...


Stephen


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Re: [csv] csv writer..

2006-03-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Sorry for the very late reaction, I am trying to catch up with everything 
atm
See inline..


Stefan Rufer wrote:

Sometimes one has to knock twice :-)

Basically I think it's a fine idea to have a csv writer with fixed width 
/ separators configurable!


Additionally, my thoughts about the code:

IMO it's desirable to integrate CSVWriter and CSVPrinter - already the 
names state that they do very similar things and escaping/setting 
delimiters and so on is coded twice. Either use inheritance to extend 
CSVPrinter or (maybe even better) a delegation approach to add the 
additional functionality. For exaample methods like 
CSVPrinter.println(String[]) could be used to print in the fixed order 
given in the input array (with padding according to the config) and 
CSVWriter.writeRecord(Map) would only delegate to the CSVPrinter.


I agree it needs integrating, but since the code in there is (at least in my view) pretty immature, 
the extra time involved in integrating and not knowing for sure if someone depended on the code that 
was in there, I chose to add a seperate package..


There was also talk about adding dependencies to speed up things (by Henri if I remember correctly), 
but I would like to focus on a good API and later make things better..




Then having a CSVConfig to set the different parameters looks good - 
especially with the load of parameters that are available. That's a 
thing the CSVPrinter could use as well.


CSVConfig insn't a one on one mapping with the CSV stuff that already was in 
subversion at the time.

So the real question is : do you depend on the original code in subversion or can we start breaking 
things ?


Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: [csv] Priorisation of enhancements

2006-03-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt

My problem was the same.. Currently catching up.
I thing preformance is that last on the list. Premature optimization is most of the time a waste of 
time and it is better to have a good API, which allows easy optimization...

My goal is the first shoot for a no dependency solution btw, in short : as 
lightweight as possible.
Still not sure if our goals of commons-csv are a match though, so still in doubt if I should move 
the stuff I did to my own cvs tree on mvdb.org..

Feedback appreciated..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

On 2/22/06, Stefan Rufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Henry proposed a series of enhancements for the commons-csv, including:

 - performance (poor for current implementation)
 - features
 - naming/design (introduce Csv instead of String[][], introduce
   CsvStrategy class)

For details of the tests and feature list see
  http://people.apache.org/~bayard/commons-csv/

IMO a possible priorisation of these tasks is:

1) naming/design
2) performance
3) features



Given the slow performance of the current codebase, I'm tempted to
think that 2) should be moving in parallel with 1). Either by
hand-optimising the current one via a tool like YourKit or JProfiler;
or by leaping over to generating a parser via a parser generator and
making the assumption that it'll give us a performance improvement.

Sorry for not replying to your previous emails; I'm right at the end
of organizing a move to a new city, so my spare time has been
demolished for the past few weeks.

Hen

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Re: [dbutils] toMap conversion (bug)

2006-03-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt



David Graham wrote:

We don't use LinkedHashMap because we depend on Java 1.3 not 1.4.  Nobody
really uses 1.3 anymore


I beg to differ..

Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: [all] jar signing with jarsigner

2006-03-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Yep I used it on a regular base, although it's been a year or so, since I last 
did this..
I just took the short path : (re) sign all the jars that go into a webstarted 
application.
All signatures in a/each jnlp file should be the same. So eg if all external dependencies are signed 
by the creator, you need to create a seperate jnlp (include like) file per unique cert, which can 
kind of suck from a release manager perspective.

So my preferred way is to just (re) sign everything with the same cert..


Mvgr,
Martin

Paul Libbrecht wrote:

Paul Libbrecht wrote:

I suppose that, with Java Web Start, the jar-signing mechanism may 
request at least one authorization for each signing key...



Has anyone tested a java-web-start application where jars are from 
different originators?
If, indeed as I fear, there are several requests for trust presented to 
the user, I think ASF jar-signing would help nothing for JNLP 
deployments...


paul

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Re: [all] jar signing with jarsigner

2006-03-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt



Paul Libbrecht wrote:
To me this just means that the signature is, for JNLP deployers, a job 
of the deployer, or the end-developer and that a signature of Apache 
Foundation would not help.

Correct with that ?


From my point of view you are correct, though my opinion is not necessarily the opinion of everyone 
else.



Can you tell a bit more ?
E.g. is there a comparison between the fields of the JNLP and the fields 
of the certificate?


I don't know of the internals of webstart on how it checks the certs in the jars
Assume you have one jnlp file. The webstart client assumes that ALL jars are signed with the same 
cerficate, else it will stop with an error. This it to prevent users having to accept different 
certifacates. A way to use eg apache signed jars, is to add an extension jnlp file in the main 
jnlp file.
There is one rule though : The extensions may not contain code from the same packages as contained 
in the main (I don't know the exact rules for this, but that is probably in the jnlp spec).


In short : it gives the ASF extra burden to sign the jars (and release every ones in a while, since 
those certs actually expire at some point in time) and I don't see the real benefit users and the 
ASF is getting out of that. If people want to sign their application, just let them also sign all 
the other stuff along with it.


Hope this helps :)

Mvgr,
Martin



thanks

paul

Martin van den Bemt wrote:

Yep I used it on a regular base, although it's been a year or so, 
since I last did this..
I just took the short path : (re) sign all the jars that go into a 
webstarted application.
All signatures in a/each jnlp file should be the same. So eg if all 
external dependencies are signed by the creator, you need to create a 
seperate jnlp (include like) file per unique cert, which can kind of 
suck from a release manager perspective.

So my preferred way is to just (re) sign everything with the same cert..


Mvgr,
Martin

Paul Libbrecht wrote:


Paul Libbrecht wrote:

I suppose that, with Java Web Start, the jar-signing mechanism may 
request at least one authorization for each signing key...




Has anyone tested a java-web-start application where jars are from 
different originators?
If, indeed as I fear, there are several requests for trust presented 
to the user, I think ASF jar-signing would help nothing for JNLP 
deployments...


paul




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Re: svn commit: r384127 - in /jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk: maven.xml project.properties

2006-03-09 Thread Martin van den Bemt

The source of the images are in svg..
I just fixed the svg plugin for this purpose, but haven't released it yet.. (was kind of swamped 
with job changing etc..)


Mvgr,
Martin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Author: bayard
Date: Tue Mar  7 22:05:02 2006
New Revision: 384127

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=384127view=rev
Log:
Removed the pdf and svg bits - not sure why [cli] would have these, yell at me 
if there's a reason

Modified:
jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/maven.xml
jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/project.properties

Modified: jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/maven.xml
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/maven.xml?rev=384127r1=384126r2=384127view=diff
==
--- jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/maven.xml (original)
+++ jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/maven.xml Tue Mar  7 22:05:02 2006
@@ -54,15 +54,6 @@
 tofile=target/test-classes/org/apache/commons/cli2/resource/TestBundle.properties/  
   /postGoal
 
- postGoal name=xdoc:transform

-   attainGoal name=pdf:pdf/
- /postGoal
-
- preGoal name=pdf:prepare
-   attainGoal name=svg:init/
-   attainGoal name=svg:convert/
- /preGoal
-
  preGoal name=dist:prepare-bin-filesystem
attainGoal name=ant:generate-build/
  /preGoal

Modified: jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/project.properties
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/project.properties?rev=384127r1=384126r2=384127view=diff
==
--- jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/project.properties (original)
+++ jakarta/commons/proper/cli/trunk/project.properties Tue Mar  7 22:05:02 2006
@@ -31,12 +31,3 @@
 maven.jar.manifest.attribute.Implementation-Vendor-Id=org.apache
 maven.jar.manifest.attribute.X-Compile-Source-JDK=${maven.compile.source}
 maven.jar.manifest.attribute.X-Compile-Target-JDK=${maven.compile.target}
-
-maven.pdf.navigationFile=navigation-pdf.xml
-
-# Used in conjuction with the maven-svg-plugin.
-# see http://www.mvdb.org/maven/plugins/svg on howto install the plugin.
-# You need version 1.2
-maven.svg.target=all
-maven.svg.type=all
-maven.svg.onload=true



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Re: [VOTE] Elect Sandy McArthur As Committer

2006-02-16 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Sorry for the late reaction..

+1...

Mvgr,
Martin

robert burrell donkin wrote:

Sandy McArthur has been contributing high quality patches for
commons-pool for a few months now and has been the main driving force
towards both fixing current issues and pushing the component forwards.
He has demonstrated a deep knowledge of pool and has become involved in
the general commons community.

I therefore propose that he is elected a committer

i'll tally the votes no earlier than 2400 GMT one week hence (Tuesday
the 21st).

Here's my +1

- robert

--8--
[ ] +1 Elect Sandy
[ ] +0 Tentative support but can't make informed judgement
[ ] -0 Tentative opposition but can't make informed judgement
[ ] -1 Do not elect Sandy
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Re: Outstanding Commons bugs

2006-02-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Probably a good thing to ask Sandy McArthur wade through the pool issues..

Mvgr,
Martin

Henri Yandell wrote:

I figure I can make myself useful by joining Martin and slowly going
through the bugs.

The following url shows a summary of the outstanding issues; wish I
could find a way to include the creation date, but doesn't seem to be
a way to graph by time in Bugzilla.

http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/report.cgi?bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDproduct=Commonsx_axis_field=bug_statusy_axis_field=componentwidth=700height=450action=wrapformat=table

(minor note, need to change 'chain' to 'Chain')

BeanUtils is the clear bug holder; with 77 open bugs. Lang + DBCP next on 39.

---

Any plan of attack Martin? Figured I might try and hit CLI first as
I'm looking at that code and pondering 2.0.

Hen

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Re: Outstanding Commons bugs

2006-02-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Thanx :)
If you are going astray, people will probably reopen the issue..
Just ping us if you are in serious doubt..

Mvgr,
Martin

Sandy McArthur wrote:

On 2/10/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Probably a good thing to ask Sandy McArthur wade through the pool issues..



I'll see what I can add to the pool bug reports. Not being an apache
developer I don't feel right closing out issues unless it's really
obvious it should be closed. I'll be a little agressive this time
since you asked me to look into them. Just let me know if I'm going
astray.

--
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He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
- Thomas Paine

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