Re: [Commons-l] [Wikidata] WCQS Beta Downtime beginning Feb 4 18:30 UTC

[Maarten Dammers via Commons-l]

Hi Ryan and Guillaume,

Last time I checked WCQS was short for "Wikimedia Commons Query Service" 
( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SPARQL_query_service ) so 
I'm a bit puzzled why you posted this on the Wikidata mailing list 
instead of the Wikimedia Commons list? I hope it will be back soon.


Maarten

On 03-02-2021 22:39, Guillaume Lederrey wrote:
We ran some numbers and it looks that the data reload is going to take 
around 2.5 days, during which WCQS will be unavailable. Sorry for this 
interruption of service.


On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, 21:16 Guillaume Lederrey, > wrote:


On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 8:53 PM Ryan Kemper mailto:rkem...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:

Hi all,

Our host *wcqs-beta-01.eqiad.wmflabs* is running low on disk
space due to its blazegraph journal dataset size. In order to
free up space we will need to take the service down, delete
the journal and re-import from the latest dump. Service
interruption will begin at *Feb 4 18:30 UTC* and continue
until the data reload is complete.


Just to be clear, this is the host behind
https://wcqs-beta.wmflabs.org/.

We'll send out a notification when the downtime begins and
when it ends as well.

*Note*: This doesn't affect WDQS, only the WCQS beta.
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Re: [Commons-l] Update to MediaSearch and a search preference survey

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Hi Ryan and Keegan,

On 22-12-2020 19:29, Keegan Peterzell wrote:



On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 4:33 PM Ryan Kaldari > wrote:


This is great! I've been hoping for this feature for a while!
Thanks to the Structured Data team for implementing this, and also
thanks to Multichill for adding all the license data via
his BotMultichillT bot.


Thanks for the shout-out :-)




This feature would absolutely not have its utility without the work of 
Multichill's bot, and I am grateful for the work. Multichill, my 
apologies for the oversight in forgetting to mention your 
contributions in the initial message. It's certainly invaluable to the 
project.


Happy to see my effort appreciated, but don't forget about 
User:Schlurcher who also did a lot of the work!


I hope next year the search can be improved even more so it becomes 
easier to find files based on what is depicted.


Maarten

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Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Commons Query Service (WCQS)

[Maarten Dammers via Commons-l]

Hi Guillaume,

    * The MediaInfo concept URIs (e.g. 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/entity/M37200540) are currently HTTP; we 
may change these to HTTPS in the near future. Please comment on 
T258590 if you have concerns about this change.


I'm pretty sure that's not correct. The Commons MediaInfo URIs have been 
HTTPS from the start. How did the http get introduced?


Maarten

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Re: [Commons-l] Some help needed

[Maarten Dammers]

For the other people who are reading this: I also got this question. 
Solved this by doing a query on the database, see 
https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/14350


Parsing wikitext is generally messy. Quite a few identifier templates on 
Commons (like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Rijksmonument 
) set a tracker category and use the identifier as the sorting key. This 
way it's possible to keep track of what identifier is used on what page 
(see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Categorylinks_table for the 
database layout). In this case no tracker category was set so the 
externallinks table was used as a fallback ( 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Externallinks_table ).


Maarten


On 25-11-16 15:11, Hugo Manguinhas wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am new to the Commons API and would like to know how to get (in a machine 
readable way) the metadata found within the Summary section of a page.

In particular, given a File page like this one: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:African_Dusky_Nightjar_(Caprimulgus_pectoralis)_(W1CDR386_BD28).ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:African_Dusky_Nightjar_(Caprimulgus_pectoralis)_(W1CDR386_BD28).ogg

I would like to get the "Europeana link" part... it is enough for me to get the 
data as Wiki markup, but parsing the whole HTML would be too much :S

... btw, is there any way to query for such data? I have been using the API 
Sandbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox ) but could not find 
a method that could do this...

Your help is really appreciated! Thank you in advance!

Best regards,
Hugo
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Re: [Commons-l] Images from the National Museum of Denmark

[Maarten Dammers]

Nice! When do you start uploading them to Commons? ;-)

Maarten

Op 30 aug. 2014 om 13:03 heeft Ole Palnatoke Andersen palnat...@gmail.com het 
volgende geschreven:

 The National Museum of Denmark are releasing approximately 750,000
 images under free licences. About 50,000 have been tagged already.
 
 Press release: 
 http://www.mynewsdesk.com/dk/nationalmuseet/pressreleases/nationalmuseet-frigiver-tusindvis-af-historiske-fotos-1044953
 
 If your translation skills or autotranslator of choice leave doubts, just ask.
 
 Regards, Ole
 
 -- 
 http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588
 
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Re: [Commons-l] Tarballs of all 2004-2012 Commons files now available at archive.org

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Nemo,

Op 13-10-2013 11:09, Federico Leva (Nemo) schreef:
WikiTeam has just finished archiving all Wikimedia Commons files up to 
2012 (and some more) on the Internet Archive: 
https://archive.org/details/wikimediacommons
So far it's about 24 TB of archives and there are also a hundred 
torrents you can help seed, ranging from few hundred MB to over a TB, 
most around 400 GB.
Everything is documented at 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dumps#Media_tarballs 
and if you want here are some ideas to help WikiTeam with coding: 
https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/issues/list.
Nice, this was really needed for 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Right_to_fork (although I hope that 
never happens). I wonder who is going to use it and for what. Are you 
keeping statistics so we can get an idea what gets downloaded and how 
many times? Would it make sense if the WMF seeds some (or all) of these 
torrents?


Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] Proposal for maintaining meta data as structured data

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Daniel,

Op 26-6-2013 20:37, Daniel Kinzler schreef:

Am 25.06.2013 22:16, schrieb Maarten Dammers:

I think that the technology of Wikidata would be very useful for this, but that
the meta data should be maintained on Commons itself.

Why?

Because it makes sense that the meta-info is stored in the same place as and
maintained by the same people as the primary data. Easier to maintain, back up, 
etc.
Commons should be the interface to maintain the data. The actual data 
can be stored in a different location.

I want to link the images with the items on Wikidata. So instead of having
[[Category:Grote Kerk, Haarlem]] I just want to do depicts Q item for the
Church
I guess that's not possible when we have two Wikibase databases?

Sure it's possible, no problem. The example properties are meant to be read that
way.
So I can link images of the church to 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1545193 (item on Wikidata)? I don't feel 
like having duplicate systems..

You won't be able to run queries that span both system though, like give me the
birthdays of all people shown on pictures in category x. But that's the only
big limitation i see.

In the long run we should probably get rid of the categories.

Maarten

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Re: [Commons-l] Proposal for maintaining meta data as structured data

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Daniel,

I like to focus on one thing: Where to store it.

Op 25-6-2013 14:30, Daniel Kinzler schreef:

Over the last year, we have seen some discussion about if and how Wikidata can
be useful for Wikimedia Commons. One aspect of this is maintaining meta data as
structured data.

I think that the technology of Wikidata would be very useful for this, but that
the meta data should be maintained on Commons itself.
Why? I want to link the images with the items on Wikidata. So instead of 
having [[Category:Grote Kerk, Haarlem]] I just want to do depicts Q 
item for the Church

I guess that's not possible when we have two Wikibase databases?

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Re: [Commons-l] TranslateSvg: beta version available for testing

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Harry,

You might want to add 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_infographics 
as a test case. We ran into some interesting issues while translating.


Maarten

Op 4-8-2012 23:48, Harry Burt schreef:

[Apologies for the cross-post]

Hey all,

After a short delay while I sorted out a Wikimedia Labs account, I am
pleased to announce that version 2.0 of the TranslateSvg extension is
officially available for testing [1].

TranslateSvg enables the easy translation of virtually any (currently
93.1%, but increasing all the time) SVG image containing text, with
the result embedded into the SVG file so that graphical updates
instantly propagate to all language versions [2].

Available for testing are three images to give you a feel for the
interface. There's likely to be one future change - the introduction
of an extra dialog box - but it's 99% feature complete. Well, until
*you* tell me what's wrong with it :)

So what are you waiting for? Find ten minutes and get yourself to
http://translatesvg.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page .

Many thanks,
Harry

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Google Summer of Code student

[1] http://translatesvg.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
[2] http://www.harryburt.co.uk/blog/2012/07/20/translatesvg-whats-it-for/

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Re: [Commons-l] Personality rights

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Ryan,

Op 6-4-2012 2:22, Ryan Kaldari schreef:
This is generally a straightforward decision per Commons:Photographs 
of identifiable people. If the photos were taken in a private place, 
consent is required. If the photos were taken in a public place, 
consent is not required (with exceptions for some countries). What was 
the justification for not following the Photographs of identifiable 
people guideline?
That probaby has to do with the fact that some people tried to (ab)use 
this rule to get images deleted they didn't like. Say I take 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_SOPA_Boiler_Room_Meeting.jpg 
. If I would want to get rid of that picture I just say we don't have 
consent documented. For this picture we're probably able to get that 
afterwards because we know these people, but for most picture this is an 
easy way to get images deleted which you don't like.


Maarten
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Re: [Commons-l] GSoC 2012 : Automatically tagging photos in Wikimedia Commons

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Tobias,

Op 20-3-2012 13:34, Tobias Oelgarte schreef:

Hello,

It sounds nice in theory. But knowing the current limitations of 
object recognition and our category/tagging system on Commons, I don't 
see how it could really help to improve the project. For example: We 
don't tag every object in the background since it is much better for 
the user to find images inside the categories that have this object as 
the main motive. In case of something like a ball it would need to 
correctly distinguish between a football, a globe, marble, melon, etc. 
If it guesses wrong and would add the tag it would accidentally 
increase the efforts for our maintainers.


Maybe you want to elaborate in more detail what possible use cases you 
have in mind, where it would be a real help for our contributers. I 
like the idea, but at the same time I see a lot of difficulties to 
transform it in a realistic improvement for the project.
Did you read 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Using_OpenCV_to_categorize_files 
? It contains some possible use cases.


Maarten
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Re: [Commons-l] [cultural-partners] CC licences, other free licences and compatibility

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Peter,

This has nothing to do with GLAM's any more so moving over to Commons-l. 
Please direct any further replies in this thread to that (public) 
mailing list.


Op 15-1-2012 11:16, Peter Weis schreef:
4. Is the community willing to delete files that do not comply to 
compatibility (given the rightholders can't change them)?


I'll give you an example: 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:GFDL-CC-triple
This licence template is invalid since licencing a work by CC-BY-SA 
Unported 3.0 and CC-BY-ND Generic 2.5 is not possible ( 
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#If_I_derive_or_adapt_a_work_offered_under_a_Creative_Commons_license.2C_which_CC_license.28s.29_can_I_apply_to_the_resulting_work.3F )
I've not checked all the combinations throughout the Commons. Yet this 
example is one of those licence templates that has to be deleted ASAP 
(yes I'm aware of it nomination for deletion).
My question is whether we as a community are willing to delete files 
that obiviously don't comply to the compatibility issues. Or if this 
will end in a licence migration which already happened for GFDL ( 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GFDL_1.3_relicensing_criteria ).
You made a logical mistake here. I, the author can license a file under 
the cc-nc-sa-3.0 and the cc-by-sa-2.5 and the GFDL and whatever more 
license I want.
You, as a reuser, can choose under which license you want. So you can 
choose to use it under the cc-nc-sa-3.0 or the cc-by-sa-2.5 or the GFDL.


I don't like this template, but it's perfectly acceptable for Commons.

Maarten
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Re: [Commons-l] Al Jazeera in Flickr goes cc-by-sa

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Liam

Op 23-11-2011 14:23, Liam Wyatt schreef:
 Is there someone who can dedicate a bot to sucking these across to 
 Flickr straight away?
 Perhaps we can also create a nice partnership template too? 
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnership_templates
Great news! Enjoy the show at 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50user=BotMultichillTtitle=Special%3AListFiles%2FBotMultichillT

Maarten

Ps. If you find other great free Flickr sets you want to have at 
Commons: You can file a request at 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Flickr_batch_uploading


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Re: [Commons-l] GOOD: The Most Important Occupy Wall Street Photographer You've Never Heard of

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Neil,

Op 29-10-2011 18:12, Neil Kandalgaonkar schreef:
 Commons-L gets relatively little traffic compared to VP. Yet as far as I
 can tell, that forum is explicitly about policy disputes and so on.

 Is there anywhere else we can post this news?

 I'm starting to wonder if there is any place for people on Commons to
 post nice news, only complaints...
The village pump is also the place to post nice news so please do :-)

Maarten



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Re: [Commons-l] Commons search function vs. Google

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Andreas,

Op 11-10-2011 23:36, Andreas Kolbe schreef:

Maarten,

That sounds like the most plausible answer to me to date. We know that 
sexual images are among the most popular in Commons.


knip

This is something the personal image filter would (in part) address. 
We could also have a look at our search algorithm.
That sounds like a solution to a problem, but you didn't actually state 
the problem. What's the problem you're trying to solve?


Maarten



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Re: [Commons-l] Commons search function vs. Google

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Andreas,

Op 11-10-2011 17:22, Andreas Kolbe schreef:


Why is our listing so different from the one in Google, and why are 
sexual images so much higher up in our listing of search results?
My assumption is that the popularity (either incoming links or number of 
clicks) might be taken into account. See 
http://stats.grok.se/commons.m/top to see what people like to click on 
on Commons and cross reference that with the images that show up high in 
the search results.


Maarten
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Re: [Commons-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

[Maarten Dammers]

Op 16-9-2011 10:18, Rama Neko schreef:
 That is an unexpected outcome. Do we have any idea of the proeminent 
 arguments for rejecting the filter ?
   -- Rama
I don't think it's unexpected. It's actually the kind of outcome I would 
expect when you would run this poll at the Dutch Wikipedia.

Maarten


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[Commons-l] Spread the love

[Maarten Dammers]

WikiLove just got enabled at Commons :-D

Maarten

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Re: [Commons-l] Photo contest for Kosovo and Albania

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Hi Mike,

Did you guys consider joining Wiki Loves Monuments 2011? It's a (big) 
European photo contest organized in September 2011, see 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011 for 
more information.

Maarten

Op 5-6-2011 14:18, Mike Dupont schreef:
 Hi there,
 now that I found this list, I wanted to let you know about this photo
 contest we have been working on for almost one year
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:BestPictureOfKosovoForWikipediaContest

 there are photos on flicker, facebook and commons, we are still
 working on processing all of them, any help would be nice.

 The idea was from gerardm who spoke at the freesb conference in vlore
 albania last year.

 We are still working on the next events for this year, sfk11 is being
 planned for the first weekend of november in prishtina.

 It would be nice if we can find some sponsors of the photo contest, I
 was thinking of something like a 500Euro prize for the first photo to
 make it to the picture of the day for the commons,
 I would even be willing to donate some money myself to wikimedia ev
 germany if I could tax deduct it.


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Re: [Commons-l] Commonist is down, backup binary now available

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Mike,

Op 5-6-2011 13:57, Mike Dupont schreef:
 I have tried to build a version from the source code here,
 but note that the version you talk about is 0.4.27 and what is checked
 in is 0.3.44

 here is the binary I produced, it is having problems uploading, cannot log in.

 Here is the binary I produced, any help would be appreciated, like a
 copy of the current source code.

 https://github.com/downloads/h4ck3rm1k3/mediawiki-svn/commonist-0.3.44.zip

Did you try 
http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/tools/commonist-java/ 
(old version) or 
http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/tools/commonist/ (new 
version)?
The website hosting should probably be transfered to the Toolserver so 
more people can take care of it.

Maarten


 I updated this page here :
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Tools/Commonist#Source_code


 thanks,
 mike





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Re: [Commons-l] looking for help/advice with public domain image discoverability project

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Parker,

Op 1-6-2011 22:58, Parker schreef:
 Hey Maarten, all,

 Here's the latest output from my upload script:
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FWS_1_Local_resident_working_on_dog_sled_harness.jpg

 This includes all of the changes that I was planning to make. What do
 you think? Shall I go ahead and upload all of the images that I have
 downloaded at http://images.freeculture.org?

 FWIW, the code is here:
 https://github.com/gameguy43/usable_image_scraper
 In particular:
 https://github.com/gameguy43/usable_image_scraper/blob/master/wikiuploader.py

 Thanks for all of your help so far!
 Thanks also to valhallasw for helping me with pywikibot, and
 Thehelpfulone for helping me get set up testing on test.wikipedia.org
We should probably discus the details somewhere onwiki and not on this 
mailinglist. I created 
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Commons:Batch_uploading/United_States_Fish_and_Wildlife_Service
 
as a central place to discus this. I'll comment over there.

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] Photo contest for Kosovo and Albania

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Mike,

Op 5-6-2011 18:45, Mike Dupont schreef:
 I just talked to some of the guys, one thing that they mentioned is
 the contentious issue of serbia claiming kosovo territory.
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Participating_countries_WLM2011.svg

 can we change that?
I assume good faith and that people are lazy: Lot of the svg maps of 
Europe are broken or incomplete but nobody bothered to fix it.
Feel free to update the map with a more correct one.

Maarten

 This map could be used as the basis,
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blank_map_of_Europe_-_Atelier_graphique_colors_with_Kosovo.svg
 or this
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Iberian_map_europe.svg

 instead of this one :
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blank_map_europe_%28Kosovo_as_part_of_Serbia%29.svg
 or this one
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blank_map_europe.svg

 Funny is that the previous version contained kosovo,
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/31/20101008223827!Blank_map_europe.svg

 it is just an endless fight to have any stability on this issue, there
 seems to be no agreement on it.

 thanks,
 mike


 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Mike  Dupont
 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 ok,

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Maarten Dammersmaar...@mdammers.nl  wrote:
 Op 5-6-2011 16:41, Mike Dupont schreef:
 there are many many monuments for the kosovo war in
 kosovo, for example.
 Wiki Loves Monuments is about historic buildings, not about memorials.
 Well there are also historical buildings, I took a lot of those.
 Monastaries, Mosques, turkish castles, old bridges, ancient stone
 houses(kullas), towers etc. you will find many already in that
 category.

 thanks,
 mike






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Re: [Commons-l] Commons-l Digest, Vol 69, Issue 21 - Friendliness

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Túrelio,

Op 28-2-2011 10:12, turelio...@aol.com schreef:



The problem Commons is facing since a while, is massively missing 
admin-power/resources.

On February 23rd, Commons had 9 mio files. (read on [[:de:WP:Kurier]])
Today (Febr 28th), Commons has 9.35 mio files. (as of 
[[Special:Statistics]])


That means, in 5 days 350.000 uploads needed to be checked for 
detecting blatant and not so overt copyvios, for attack images/pages, 
for personality rights violations, for useless bullshit, for clearly 
promotional material,  for missing source entry, for missing license, 
for missing permission (when uploader not identical to author), etc. etc.



This numbers might be off a bit because of a bit because of a batch upload, 
seehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Geograph_Britain_and_Ireland
As far as I know normal numbers are around 5000 uploads a day.

Maarten


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[Commons-l] Your friendly CategorizationBot (was Re: Fwd: [Foundation-l] Friendliness)

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi Ryan,

Op 22-2-2011 21:06, Ryan Kaldari schreef:
 Speaking of friendliness on Commons, does CategorizationBot really need
 to post notices on both the File pages and User Talk pages? Maarten?
Yes. People tend not the notice things left on file pages. This way they 
do notice.

 This seems overly aggressive to me.
Aggressive? What's aggressive? The fact that a user is kindly invited to 
help out or the message itself?
A user is asked to help out because we're always low on people helping out.
The message is at 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Please_link_images . If you 
don't like it, be bold and make it a better message.

My categorization project started somewhere in 2008. I was tired on 
stumbling upon uncategorized files. A lot of great photo's, but 
impossible to find. So first I wrote something to find all uncategorized 
files and tag them. Next step was to try to find categories for these 
images. At some point I started notifying people to try to get them 
involved. I don't know if it helped, what I do know is that the number 
of uncategorized files is pretty stable around (100K) and that my bot 
helped categorize over 200K files (probably even more). The full 
statistics are at 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Categorization_stats

The exact workings of the bot and frequently asked questions about the 
bot are at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CategorizationBot . I 
try to update this page based on the questions I get. Might be worth 
reading.

I don't consider it very friendly to dismiss my work as aggresive ;-)

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Friendliness

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Hi Kevin,

Op 23 feb 2011 om 04:07 heeft Kevin Morgan morgankev...@gmail.com  
het volgende geschreven:\

 If the category field is a text field then that will likely lead to
 categories being created that do not link to the index. Instead a drop
 down menu or search feature should be used.

Did you recently use the upload interface? It contains hotcat which  
works exactly how you describe it.

 Also an option to attempt
 to apply the categories used in a Wikipedia page would be very useful.

That's exactly what the categorization bot does. The uploaded only  
gets notified if the categorization bot is unable to find any  
categories.

Maarten

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Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

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Hi guys,

So we're having the tags discussion again? Pops up every once in a 
while. Tags is a step backwards compared to categories. With tags there 
is a relation between an object (a photo) and a word. No way of telling 
what the relation is, what language the tag is, no relations between 
tags etc etc. So just a word and no more metadata, but it is very easy 
for the user. On the other side we have semantic web (yes, I said the S 
word!). That's like an utopia we'll never reach. Categories are 
somewhere in between. There's a relation between an object and a 
category, we don't know what that relation is. There are relations 
between categories, also we don't know what these relations are.

Would be nice if we could use all the information of the current 
category system to build a better new system. Imho the most important 
problem of our current system is intersections. Category:Churches gets 
too crowded so we intersect it with locations (I even wrote a bot to do 
that). This hides a lot of images. We want to add atomic things, let's 
call them labels. So I want to add the label church and the label 
Amsterdam and have some clever software figure out the intersection. 
Between these labels you can define relations again (maybe even specify 
more than a relation?) and you can add translations. For the simple user 
the label should just work like a tag (click, added Amsterdam  Church), 
but the more advanced user could add more information like translations, 
relations with other labels, link to Wikipedia articles etc etc making 
it a powerful system.

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

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Hi,

Op 28-10-2010 20:56, Gerard Meijssen schreef:

Hoi,
I am writing a series of blog posts about Commons. My aim is to 
identify the issues that I have with how it functions. There are 
several and I do not bother to write about the ones that are being 
tackled by the team around Guillaume (as far as it is clear to me what 
they are doing).


The latest blog is about the difficulty of finding pictures, I am also 
of the opinion that we have the opportunity to be more of a resource 
of stock images that are freely licensed. We should stimulate this. 
Yes Commons is growing rapidly. Its coverage leaves a lot to be 
desired. In my opinion we need to concentrate on search and coverage 
to make Commons truly kick ass.
A lot of fun stuff can still be done with the search engine (lucene), 
but as far as I know there is no development there. Would be nice if the 
foundation would work on that.


Maarten



Thanks.
  GerardM

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[Commons-l] Video on Wikipedia

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  See http://openvideoalliance.org/wikipedia/ and 
http://videoonwikipedia.org/

Maarten


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[Commons-l] Add this at Commons

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Hi guys,

I keep coming across http://www.addthis.com/ . It's an easy way to share 
things on allmost 300 websites.
Would be great if we had something like this on our image pages at Commons.
You click it, select your site where you want to reuse the image and 
you're done. Clicking the image should bring you to the image page at 
Commons.

This would be a great way to promote reuse of our content!

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] Preferred licenses

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Op 21-7-2010 4:48, Neil Kandalgaonkar schreef:
 On 7/20/10 7:28 PM, Stephen Bain wrote:


 Perhaps a checkbox could be displayed when the licence field is filled
 with the default preference but the user inputs something else, asking
 if they would like to update their preference?

  
 That might not be too bad. I think I'd put question that *after* the
 upload was done though.


Just give the user the option to set a default license for own work 
files. If the user doesn't select own work in the upload form - don't 
set the default license.

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25

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Hi Eusebius,

Eusebius schreef:
 Sorry to sound stupid, but what's Office Hour?
I hope http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours answers your 
question.

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] GlobalUsage deployed an up to date

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Hi guys,

Bryan Tong Minh schreef:
 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Magnus Manske
 magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
   
 As of today, a weekly stats update will be added to u_magnus_glam_p.

 
 Oh, I see that I forgot to mention it, but I have also been collecting
 stats in p_globalusage_weekly_p
   

Maybe time to join forces? Magnus can be added to the globalusage 
account at the Toolserver.
The database is p_globalusage_weekly_p at daphne

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] GlobalUsage deployed an up to date

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Hi Magnus,

Magnus Manske schreef:
 Excellent! My GLAM reporter already works much better:
 http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php?doit=1category=Images+from+the+German+Federal+Archiveuse_globalusage=1ns0=1
   
Yeah! 
http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php?doit=1category=Images+from+the+Tropenmuseumuse_globalusage=1ns0=1
 
works now :-)
Could you put the stats of some projects (say, Bundesarchiv, Fotothek, 
Tropenmuseum and  later maybe more) in a (_p) database on a weekly  
basis so we can graph it and maybe do other nice things with it?

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] External click logging

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Hi everyone,

Magnus Manske schreef:
 This will capture all external link clicks within the page content,
 tell the toolserver about it, and then load the intended page.
Something else: Is the toolserver able to handle the load this will produce?
Maybe make it part of http://stats.wikimedia.org/ ?

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] International Olympic Committee tells Flickr user to change license

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Sage Ross schreef:
 Yes, but the CC-BY-SA license is also (usually understood as) a
 contract.  I don't think the IOC is arguing that Giles doesn't own the
 copyright to his photos.  But agreeing to terms and conditions is
 different from walking past a no photos sign.  Contracts can be
 broken, but contracts can also affect other contracts.
   
You might want to read 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Non-copyright_restrictions

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Code updated

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David Gerard schreef:
 A note on how to bug the devs about bugs :-)
   
And these 2 bugs should be voted on by every active Commons user:

Global deleted image review for Commons admins:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14801

Enable image renaming on WMF wikis:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15842

Maarten


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Re: [Commons-l] Pikiwiki project problems

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David Gerard schreef:
 Anyone here have anything to say on the problems?
   
You might want to read 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Pikiwikisrael
It pretty much sums up all problems (and possible solutions!).

Maarten


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