Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 2

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:33 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:

I wasn't arguing that if you offered someone a free Mac but said  
they could

never use Windows again, that they would switch immediately.

My point was that while there are people afraid to switch or just  
don't have
the time to learn something new, I have not found anyone in a long  
time who
would not like to have a Mac.  They then give the kinds of reasons  
you did

for not switching.

That even applies to me.  My excuse is that I am too cheap to buy a  
new

computer.


  I believe that you and I are in agreement with each other on the  
points we are making.


  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] bugmenot

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Wright
 Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bugmenot doesn't store your personal
 logins now, does it? I use it to log in to the odd site that still
 demands logins just to read a blurb, but those have mostly disappeared
 in the last couple years.

You are correct, but no these types of bozos haven't disappeared yet.  It
prevents the need to have to create yet *another* account to just look at
something.  Snapfish was the latest one for me; these weren't my pictures,
but someone who invited me to look at theirs.  You'd think by now the
marketing trolls would get tired of polluted databases.


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Re: [CGUYS] bugmenot

2008-07-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
You are correct, but no these types of bozos haven't disappeared yet.

Bozos like the Washington Post. It is sad that the best newspaper in the 
area has such backward online management. All that Post seems to be able 
to do these days is round after round of staff cuts.


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Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones [and more Eeepc info]

2008-07-22 Thread db
The folding Palm infrared keyboard is quite nice to type on but the  
infrared would rule it out.   Other manufacturers  make blue tooth... 
does the  eepc have that?


db

Constance Warner wrote:
I tried a full-size folding USB plug-in keyboard and it worked, but 
the more gear you have to carry along with a micro computer like the 
Eeepc, the more you defeat the purpose of having a tiny portable 
machine.  (Also, the keyboard was expensive.)  One of those flexible 
keyboards might work, too, but I can't see it working on your lap on a 
bus.  I haven't tried one of those small folding keyboards that are 
used with PDA's, and I don't know if they would connect with the Eeepc 
(even if they're still available).  If there were a very small folding 
USB keyboard, it might be worth a try.


--Constance
On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:08 PM, Admiral Harris wrote:

Would one of those regular sized rollup USB keyboards work with an 
Eeepc?






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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Steve, good point.  I agree that getting someone to switch from one thing to
another is generally difficult.  That's where Microsoft makes their money.
Microsoft Office is a good example - I run into businesses that say they
don't like Office that much, but they have to have it for compatibility with
clients, partners, etc.

This reminds me of a post from a few weeks ago about adding software to a 
Windows PC. I think it was FireFox. The poster was concerned that adding 
new software would somehow make the computer stop working.

Microsoft has been very effective at marketing by fear. Their message is 
that deviating from their products will make you an outcast. Your 
computer will break, nobody will be able to read your files, and 
everything sent to you will be gibberish.


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Re: [CGUYS] Google Maps slow or stopped?

2008-07-22 Thread Jordan

Thanks for checking, but did you try Satellite mode?
No matter what zoom level I try, it gives me the we don't have that zoom 
level message.


Tony B wrote:

Working real snappy here. Try clearing your browser cache.


On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Has anybody else had trouble loading Google maps lately? I've had
intermittant slow or no loads for a few days now and today it's almost
stopped. Or maybe everyone is planning their vacations.



  



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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Wright
Hmmm, I don't recall seeing that commercial.  Are you sure you aren't
confusing it with the Microsoft Corp in your head?


On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve, good point.  I agree that getting someone to switch from one thing
 to
 another is generally difficult.  That's where Microsoft makes their money.
 Microsoft Office is a good example - I run into businesses that say they
 don't like Office that much, but they have to have it for compatibility
 with
 clients, partners, etc.

 This reminds me of a post from a few weeks ago about adding software to a
 Windows PC. I think it was FireFox. The poster was concerned that adding
 new software would somehow make the computer stop working.

 Microsoft has been very effective at marketing by fear. Their message is
 that deviating from their products will make you an outcast. Your
 computer will break, nobody will be able to read your files, and
 everything sent to you will be gibberish.


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Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones [and more Eeepc info]

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Meyer
I think it is blue-toothless.

Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org


--- On Tue, 7/22/08, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: db [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones [and more Eeepc info]
 To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
 Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 11:02 AM
 The folding Palm infrared keyboard is quite nice to type on
 but the  
 infrared would rule it out.   Other manufacturers  make
 blue tooth... 
 does the  eepc have that?
 
 db
 
 Constance Warner wrote:
  I tried a full-size folding USB plug-in keyboard and
 it worked, but 
  the more gear you have to carry along with a micro
 computer like the 
  Eeepc, the more you defeat the purpose of having a
 tiny portable 
  machine.  (Also, the keyboard was expensive.)  One of
 those flexible 
  keyboards might work, too, but I can't see it
 working on your lap on a 
  bus.  I haven't tried one of those small folding
 keyboards that are 
  used with PDA's, and I don't know if they
 would connect with the Eeepc 
  (even if they're still available).  If there were
 a very small folding 
  USB keyboard, it might be worth a try.
 
  --Constance
  On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:08 PM, Admiral Harris wrote:
 
  Would one of those regular sized rollup USB
 keyboards work with an 
  Eeepc?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Wright
Or, like me, happy with what they have and see no need to go to another
platform.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Snyder, Mark (IT CIV) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Sacks
BUT you're just saying that because you're afraid to go to Mac.  Admit
it. You're afraid, aren't you?!?!??  :-j  :-P  

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To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

Or, like me, happy with what they have and see no need to go to another
platform.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[CGUYS] Firefox 3.0 History

2008-07-22 Thread Richard P.
When I start typing an address in Firefox 3.0, it not only displays 
previously visited websites, but divulges detailed information about 
what the site was used for. For instance, a previous user used Firefox 
to log into their work's webmail and now each of their email's heading 
is displayed for anyone to see, without even having to log in. This is a 
huge violation of presumed privacy. Older versions of Firefox only 
displayed the root of previously visited links.


Has anyone else seen this? Firefox's improvements and undocumented 
features are starting to make Internet Explorer look like a better 
choice :-(


Richard P.


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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Or, like me, happy with what they have and see no need to go to another
platform.

Mac sales up by a whopping 41% year over year.
iPhone sales up by a whopping 300% year over year.
Not bad during a major recession.

iPod sales up by a 12% year over year.
Not bad for a market considered saturated.


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Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.0 History

2008-07-22 Thread John DeCarlo
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I start typing an address in Firefox 3.0, it not only displays
 previously visited websites, but divulges detailed information about what
 the site was used for. For instance, a previous user used Firefox to log
 into their work's webmail and now each of their email's heading is displayed
 for anyone to see, without even having to log in. This is a huge violation
 of presumed privacy. Older versions of Firefox only displayed the root of
 previously visited links.

 Has anyone else seen this? Firefox's improvements and undocumented
 features are starting to make Internet Explorer look like a better choice
 :-(


1.  Yes, previous versions just showed the URL information.

2.  No, the current version just shows the site  along with the URL - that
is, what the site gives your browser as a window title.

3.  If you have multiple people using the same profile in Firefox, that is
an accident waiting to happen.

4.  If your webmail displays the email heading in the window title, you
might want to ask them to change that.  I know that Gmail just displays the
subject line.

I don't know what you mean by the last paragraph, but this is clearly more
useful to the user trying to get back to an earlier site by typing in the
address bar.  Plus, it will search the window-title information for what you
are typing, not just the URL.  This was an advertised feature.

As for whether you consider that a privacy or security concern, you probably
shouldn't have multiple people using the same account on your OS and the
same profile in Firefox.


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Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.0 History

2008-07-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Has anyone else seen this? Firefox's improvements and undocumented 
features are starting to make Internet Explorer look like a better 
choice :-(

Most people run FF with Always clear my private data when I close 
FireFox enabled. Won't this suffice for you?


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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Wright
 iPhone sales up by a whopping 300% year over year.

And exactly how many years has the iPhone been selling?  Tom has never
met a 2 data point, straight line trend that he didn't like.

 Not bad during a major recession.

Sez who?


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Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.0 History

2008-07-22 Thread Richard P.
In regard to your points 1, 2, 3: Agreed. As for 4, for the future, I'll 
advise them to use separate accounts to insure some semblance of privacy.


I didn't know this was an advertised feature. My last paragraph was in 
reference to the other issue I had with FF3.0 in regards to browser 
links in Thunderbird won't automatically open into a FF window as they 
used to.


This is a residential computer so the privacy issue isn't business or 
security oriented. It's just a privacy thing.


Thanks for the clarification.

Richard P.

John wrote:


  

When I start typing an address in Firefox 3.0, it not only displays
previously visited websites, but divulges detailed information about what
the site was used for. For instance, a previous user used Firefox to log
into their work's webmail and now each of their email's heading is displayed
for anyone to see, without even having to log in. This is a huge violation
of presumed privacy. Older versions of Firefox only displayed the root of
previously visited links.

Has anyone else seen this? Firefox's improvements and undocumented
features are starting to make Internet Explorer look like a better choice
:-(




1.  Yes, previous versions just showed the URL information.

2.  No, the current version just shows the site  along with the URL - that
is, what the site gives your browser as a window title.

3.  If you have multiple people using the same profile in Firefox, that is
an accident waiting to happen.

4.  If your webmail displays the email heading in the window title, you
might want to ask them to change that.  I know that Gmail just displays the
subject line.

I don't know what you mean by the last paragraph, but this is clearly more
useful to the user trying to get back to an earlier site by typing in the
address bar.  Plus, it will search the window-title information for what you
are typing, not just the URL.  This was an advertised feature.

As for whether you consider that a privacy or security concern, you probably
shouldn't have multiple people using the same account on your OS and the
same profile in Firefox.


  



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Re: [CGUYS] Google Maps slow or stopped?

2008-07-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Thanks for checking, but did you try Satellite mode?
No matter what zoom level I try, it gives me the we don't have that zoom 
level message.

Nice and clear. I can even count the windows in my office building.

I only get blocked when I zoom in on the nude beach.


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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Rich Schinnell

At 02:47 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote:

Date:Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:17:07 -0400
From:Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

 and
everything sent to you will be gibberish.


Ah Ha!, Now I know why a lot of what I read on CG is gibberish.

Because it was typed on a non MS computer.

The mystery is solved.

Thanks Tom..   G


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Re: [CGUYS] Firefox 3.0 History

2008-07-22 Thread Richard P.
That might be a viable option and I'll look into it. For the moment, 
I've turned off all history which seems to have resolved the issue.


Richard P.




Most people run FF with Always clear my private data when I close 
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Re: [CGUYS] Google Maps slow or stopped?

2008-07-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

You want to share those coordinates so we can all try?  :-)

Stewart


At 02:53 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote:

Nice and clear. I can even count the windows in my office building.

I only get blocked when I zoom in on the nude beach.


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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread mike
I call BS on this post.  Major.  Give us that commercial Tom, that ad in the
monthly pc mag...something, back this shtuff up once.

Mike

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Microsoft has been very effective at marketing by fear. Their message is
 that deviating from their products will make you an outcast. Your
 computer will break, nobody will be able to read your files, and
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Re: [CGUYS] Google Maps slow or stopped?

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Sacks
What?  Of his office building?   :-)

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Marshall
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Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Maps slow or stopped?

You want to share those coordinates so we can all try?  :-)

Stewart


At 02:53 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote:
Nice and clear. I can even count the windows in my office building.

I only get blocked when I zoom in on the nude beach.

Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Sacks
iPhone sales may be up but what does the raw data say?  Some percentage
of that number are people who are buying the latest Cool thing from
Apple.  For instance, there was a story (I can't find it right now to
cite the reference) of someone who bought an iPhone 1.0 two days after
they were first released.  When iPhone 2.0 came out, they were in line
at a local store 2+ hours before it opened so she could be one of the
first people into the store (paraphrased).  Her 1.0 phone still works,
but she wanted to have the latest and greatest.  

And what recession are we in?  The classical definition of a recession
is when there are two or more consecutive quarters of negative growth.  

Or were you referring to the one made up by the whiners of the nation?
:-) :-J



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Or, like me, happy with what they have and see no need to go to another
platform.

Mac sales up by a whopping 41% year over year.
iPhone sales up by a whopping 300% year over year.
Not bad during a major recession.

iPod sales up by a 12% year over year.
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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Chris Dunford
 Microsoft has been very effective at marketing by fear. Their message
 is that deviating from their products will make you an outcast. Your
 computer will break, nobody will be able to read your files, and
 everything sent to you will be gibberish.

Which ads were those? 

I do remember some ads with two guys talking where the computer one of the
guys represents keeps breaking down and not working right and causing him
untold anguish and eventually sending him to the hospital. I don't think
those were MS ads, though.


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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:


Mac sales up by a whopping 41% year over year.


  Macintosh portable computers outsold desktop units by almost 2 to 1.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That is pretty much the trend on all computers Windows or Mac.

Stewart

At 05:18 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote:


  Macintosh portable computers outsold desktop units by almost 2 to 1.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread David K Watson

Are you really trying to say that you have never, in
your vast experience, come across the acronym FUD
or any of the many things Microsoft has done that
this label has been applied to?

I'm not saying you should believe all of those things,
though some are quite believable.  I am just wondering
if you are pretending ignorance as some sort of debating
ploy, or if you actually have managed to miss out on
all of it.  Or is there another alternative?

David


mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Date:Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:20:11 -0700
From:mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

I call BS on this post.  Major.  Give us that commercial Tom, that  
ad in the

monthly pc mag...something, back this shtuff up once.

Mike

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Microsoft has been very effective at marketing by fear. Their  
message is

that deviating from their products will make you an outcast. Your
computer will break, nobody will be able to read your files, and
everything sent to you will be gibberish.






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[CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file

2008-07-22 Thread Michael S. Altus
I refer to a client who lost a Word file. He said that he either did not save 
them correctly or misplaced his edited version since he can no longer find 
it.

I do not know what Word version. I assume that it is a Windows computer.

The client added that he did a desktop search using a Google search program 
with no luck.

I am unfamiliar with Google Desktop Search (http://desktop.google.com). I 
routinely search according to the following:
How to recover a lost file in Word 2007 or in Word 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827099
(Start--Search--All files and folders--etc)

How do these search utilities compare? Or is there a better way to search for 
a missing Word file?

I downloaded and installed Google Desktop Search and then decided to 
uninstall it. I find that Google DesktopSetup.exe is still on my desktop. How 
do I get 
rid of it? I'll await replies in case Google Desktop Search is better than 
Windows search.

Thanks,

Michael

Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS
Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R)
Biomedical Writing and Editing
Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file

2008-07-22 Thread Tony B
Files also disappear due to hard disk errors. No big deal, she can
just recover it from backup. But she should run chkdsk manually and if
she sees a lot of errors I'd consider replacing that drive.

Windows Desktop search in Vista is probably equivalent to Google
Desktop Search, depending on what it is you need to search for a lot.
I prefer the free X1 search on my WinXP machine.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Michael S. Altus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I refer to a client who lost a Word file. He said that he either did not save
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Re: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file

2008-07-22 Thread Chris Dunford
Can we assume that he looked in Recent Documents and in Word's list of
recently opened files?

 I refer to a client who lost a Word file. He said that he either did
 not save them correctly or misplaced his edited version since he can 
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Re: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Meyer
There is also a directory in which temp files produced
by autosave get placed.  I think this directory is
specified in the registry, the last time I had to
figure this out I googled.  

Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org


--- On Tue, 7/22/08, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file
 To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
 Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 7:27 PM
 Can we assume that he looked in Recent Documents and in
 Word's list of
 recently opened files?
 
  I refer to a client who lost a Word file. He said that
 he either did
  not save them correctly or misplaced his edited
 version since he can 
  no longer find it.
 
 
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[CGUYS] Macs in business...take 4: Price competitiveness

2008-07-22 Thread David K Watson

Speaking of debating ploys, another good one is to
change the subject. :-)

After Strong Quarter, Apple Signals Changes in Its Prices

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/22/technology/22apple.html?nl=techemc=techa1 



...Apple executives hinted during a conference call about Apple’s
third-quarter financial statement that they would price products more
aggressively in the future. It planned on taking away what Peter
Oppenheimer, the company’s chief financial officer, called
an 'umbrella for our competitors.' 

It looks like Apple hopes to be able to to dispel the perception that
Macs are too expensive while they continue to push their business-
friendly features like Exchange messaging.  They also have a
fantastic no-risk argument for cautious business types in being able
to say that their OS comes free with their hardware, which can
be used to run windows, either in a virtual machine during a transition
period, or as the primary OS should things not work out otherwise.

Still, many businesses are much more conservative than business
leaders portray themselves to be.  My favorite examples of this is
all the old mainframes that are still maintained in order to run COBOL
programs.

David


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Re: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Sacks
Any chance said client is working in a network'd environment and only
searched the local hard drives?  Could the file be on an external drive
and the drive isn't mapped or connected to the system?  

When was the last time he accessed the file?  If it's recently, Word
should have it in the list of recently opened files.  

Did not save them correctly - can he describe how he saved the files?
Did he do a Save As and choose a different format, or did he just
close out the file and say No when prompted to save the file.  If it
was a new file and he didn't save the changes when prompted, if it's
Word 2000, it's gone, toast, history, off in the ether.  

Word 2007 will show a list of recovered files at startup.  Word 2003
might do that as well but I know Word 2000 won't.


In any event, it would really help to know the version of Word, if it's
a PC or a Mac and the OS, is the PC network'd, are there any external
drives involved, 

Larry

-Original Message-
From: Computer Guys Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael S. Altus
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:14 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file

I refer to a client who lost a Word file. He said that he either did not
save 
them correctly or misplaced his edited version since he can no longer
find 
it.

I do not know what Word version. I assume that it is a Windows computer.

The client added that he did a desktop search using a Google search
program 
with no luck.

I am unfamiliar with Google Desktop Search (http://desktop.google.com).
I 
routinely search according to the following:
How to recover a lost file in Word 2007 or in Word 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827099
(Start--Search--All files and folders--etc)

How do these search utilities compare? Or is there a better way to
search for 
a missing Word file?

I downloaded and installed Google Desktop Search and then decided to 
uninstall it. I find that Google DesktopSetup.exe is still on my
desktop. How do I get 
rid of it? I'll await replies in case Google Desktop Search is better
than 
Windows search.

Thanks,

Michael

Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS
Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R)
Biomedical Writing and Editing
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Re: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Sacks
With Word 2007, the folder is  C:\Documents and Settings\user
name\Application Data\Microsoft\Word

One correction to my response is if he chose not to save the file when
exiting Word, it seems there is nothing to recover.  If he closed Word
with Task Manager, then the Autosave (or AutoRecover) information will
be in a file with an extension of .asd such as ~WRA.asd.  Double
clicking on the file should start Word or else just copy the file and
rename it to have a .doc extension.  

Larry

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Meyer
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:47 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file

There is also a directory in which temp files produced
by autosave get placed.  I think this directory is
specified in the registry, the last time I had to
figure this out I googled.  

Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org


--- On Tue, 7/22/08, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Recovering lost Word file
 To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
 Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 7:27 PM
 Can we assume that he looked in Recent Documents and in
 Word's list of
 recently opened files?
 
  I refer to a client who lost a Word file. He said that
 he either did
  not save them correctly or misplaced his edited
 version since he can 
  no longer find it.
 
 


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[CGUYS] LCD Monitor and color fringing

2008-07-22 Thread Q. Fisher
I recently bought a Dell Ultrasharp color monitor and have been 
surprised ( = disappointed) at its tendency to put red or green fringes 
around high contrast areas, most notably black text. My older CRT seemd 
to give a much sharper and accurate image. Is this normal behavior for a 
n LCD monitor? Or is it a Dell issue? Are other monitors any better?


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Re: [CGUYS] LCD Monitor and color fringing

2008-07-22 Thread Fred Holmes
Get a video card with a digital output, and use the digital cable to connect 
the LCD monitor to the video card.  The color fringing is almost certainly 
caused in the part of the circuitry where the signal is analog.  Could even be 
caused by a poor quality analog (VGA) video cable.

Fred Holmes

At 09:23 PM 7/22/2008, Q. Fisher wrote:
I recently bought a Dell Ultrasharp color monitor and have been surprised ( 
= disappointed) at its tendency to put red or green fringes around high 
contrast areas, most notably black text. My older CRT seemd to give a much 
sharper and accurate image. Is this normal behavior for a n LCD monitor? Or is 
it a Dell issue? Are other monitors any better?

Quentin Fisher
Bethesda, MD


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Re: [CGUYS] LCD Monitor and color fringing

2008-07-22 Thread Q. Fisher
Thanks for the suggestion. However, I actually tried it both ways (VGA 
and digital), with no recognizable difference. I am using the  NVIDIA 
GeForce 8600 video card, so digital support should be pretty good.


This is a 24 monitor. My wife's computer with a 20 monitor doesn't do 
this. Any relation?


Quentin Fisher
Bethesda, MD

Fred Holmes wrote:

Get a video card with a digital output, and use the digital cable to connect 
the LCD monitor to the video card.  The color fringing is almost certainly 
caused in the part of the circuitry where the signal is analog.  Could even be 
caused by a poor quality analog (VGA) video cable.
Fred Holmes


Q. Fisher wrote:
I recently bought a Dell Ultrasharp color monitor and have been surprised ( = 
disappointed) at its tendency to put red or green fringes around high contrast areas, 
most notably black text. My older CRT seemd to give a much sharper and accurate image. Is 
this normal behavior for a n LCD monitor? Or is it a Dell issue? Are other monitors any 
better?



Quentin Fisher
Bethesda, MD



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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 3: Fear Factor

2008-07-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Are you really trying to say that you have never, in
your vast experience, come across the acronym FUD
or any of the many things Microsoft has done that
this label has been applied to?

Are you implying that Windows is the preferred platform for the grossly 
uninformed? I certainly hope not. That would not be a nice thing to say. 
Perhaps feigning ignorance? That's better.


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Re: [CGUYS] LCD Monitor and color fringing

2008-07-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Swap them and see what happens if it occurs on her computer it is the 
monitor does not check the video card.  Do you have the latest 
drivers installed?  have you optimized the card for your display?


Stewart


At 09:36 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion. However, I actually tried it both ways 
(VGA and digital), with no recognizable difference. I am using 
the  NVIDIA GeForce 8600 video card, so digital support should be pretty good.


This is a 24 monitor. My wife's computer with a 20 monitor doesn't 
do this. Any relation?


Quentin Fisher
Bethesda, MD


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Prince of Peace
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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Re: [CGUYS] LCD Monitor and color fringing

2008-07-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Get a video card with a digital output, and use the digital cable to 
connect the LCD monitor to the video card.  The color fringing is almost 
certainly caused in the part of the circuitry where the signal is analog.  
Could even be caused by a poor quality analog (VGA) video cable.

I am surprised how often LCDs with digital inputs are connected using VGA 
cables. I have even seen DVI to VGA adapters used in situations where the 
computer did not have a VGA and the LCD had noth VGA and DVI.

However, the prize goes to the IT tech who connect with both the VGA and 
DVI cables simultaneously. (I'm not lying.)


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Re: [CGUYS] LCD Monitor and color fringing

2008-07-22 Thread Chris Dunford
 This is a 24 monitor. My wife's computer with a 20 monitor doesn't do
 this. Any relation?

I don't know what the problem is, but I can tell you that I also have a Dell
24 Ultrasharp, and there's no color fringing. I like it a lot.


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Re: [CGUYS] DVI vs VGA [was: LCD Monitor and color fringing]

2008-07-22 Thread Roger D. Parish

At 10:57 PM -0400 7/22/08, Tom Piwowar wrote:


 Get a video card with a digital output, and use the digital cable to

connect the LCD monitor to the video card.  The color fringing is almost
certainly caused in the part of the circuitry where the signal is analog. 
Could even be caused by a poor quality analog (VGA) video cable.


I am surprised how often LCDs with digital inputs are connected using VGA
cables. I have even seen DVI to VGA adapters used in situations where the
computer did not have a VGA and the LCD had noth VGA and DVI.


This discussion prompts me to ask a question that 
has been bothering me for a while, ever since I 
replaced a CRT with a 19 wide-screen LCD on my 
G4 PowerMac Sawtooth.


The Mac has an admittedly anemic ATI RagePro AGP 
video card with only 16MB of VRAM, but the card 
has both a VGA and a DVI output. The LCD also has 
both VGA and DVI. When I bought the LCD, I also 
got a DVI cable, figuring that was the best way 
to connect the monitor to the video card.


The LCD has a native resolution of 1440 x 900. 
However, when connected via the DVI cable, that 
resolution was not available in the display 
preferences, only 1280 x 960 and one or two 
other, smaller resolutions (I didn't write them 
down; sorry). When using the VGA cable, however, 
I have fourteen different resolutions to choose 
from, from 640 x 480 up through 1440 x 900.


Does anyone have an explanation, or even idle 
speculation, for why this is the case?

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Re: [CGUYS] DVI vs VGA [was: LCD Monitor and color fringing]

2008-07-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
To me it would be a limitation of the video drivers to set the proper 
resolution.


I actually have my 19 Samsung set at a larger resolution (1024x768) 
than it's native and it is far clearer in that resolution than it is 
in the native resolution (1280x960).


Stewart


At 10:50 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote:
This discussion prompts me to ask a question that has been bothering 
me for a while, ever since I replaced a CRT with a 19 wide-screen 
LCD on my G4 PowerMac Sawtooth.


The Mac has an admittedly anemic ATI RagePro AGP video card with 
only 16MB of VRAM, but the card has both a VGA and a DVI output. The 
LCD also has both VGA and DVI. When I bought the LCD, I also got a 
DVI cable, figuring that was the best way to connect the monitor to 
the video card.


The LCD has a native resolution of 1440 x 900. However, when 
connected via the DVI cable, that resolution was not available in 
the display preferences, only 1280 x 960 and one or two other, 
smaller resolutions (I didn't write them down; sorry). When using 
the VGA cable, however, I have fourteen different resolutions to 
choose from, from 640 x 480 up through 1440 x 900.


Does anyone have an explanation, or even idle speculation, for why 
this is the case?

--
Roger
Lovettsville, VA


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