Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
I am curious - why Wow? 1. I favor a limited government of enumerated powers (gov't may only do what it is expressly permitted rather than everything not expressly forbidden). 2. I favor free market economics. 3. I favor a robust foreign policy restrained by constitutional restrictions on the executives ability to make war (something we have not seen since, oh, 1945 *sigh*). 4. I favor a personally liberal society (as in I support the liberty of the individual vs. the group). 5. I am not in any way religious - I simply don't understand the urge to find faith in any religious dogma of revealed truth. Clearly, in the current American political climate, I am not going to see a major party candidate who I align perfectly with, so I have to decide which things I can give on in any given election. In this election I saw in Obama as meeting none of my positions (with the possible exception of 5, but that just means he was a fraud wrt religion). I saw McCain as possibly in line with 4, but that was it. Palin appeared to at least hit 1 and 2 in large part as well as 4. Not bad given what I am usually given as choices, but as she was only the VP choice, not enough to make me hold my nose and vote for McCain. Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Jordan wrote: Matthew S. Taylor wrote: McCain was never in the least bit tempting for me (due to his attitudes toward mere free speech and such) until he picked Palin. Then I seriously thought about voting for her for her small government views in spite of her cultural conservatism. All I can say is WOW!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
'Re-read my earlier post. ;^) And no, while he was much, much, closer, he does not hit on all of them. Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:24 AM, John Emmerling wrote: Then why didn't you vote for Bob Barr? He supported all your views. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Matthew S. Taylor taylorsmatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious - why Wow? 1. I favor a limited government of enumerated powers (gov't may only do what it is expressly permitted rather than everything not expressly forbidden). 2. I favor free market economics. 3. I favor a robust foreign policy restrained by constitutional restrictions on the executives ability to make war (something we have not seen since, oh, 1945 *sigh*). 4. I favor a personally liberal society (as in I support the liberty of the individual vs. the group). 5. I am not in any way religious - I simply don't understand the urge to find faith in any religious dogma of revealed truth. Clearly, in the current American political climate, I am not going to see a major party candidate who I align perfectly with, so I have to decide which things I can give on in any given election. In this election I saw in Obama as meeting none of my positions (with the possible exception of 5, but that just means he was a fraud wrt religion). I saw McCain as possibly in line with 4, but that was it. Palin appeared to at least hit 1 and 2 in large part as well as 4. Not bad given what I am usually given as choices, but as she was only the VP choice, not enough to make me hold my nose and vote for McCain. Matthew * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What is a good free DVD Player PC software?
Tom Piwowar wrote: Why would it be illegal? Because the DVD is locked to work only in a certain region. To ignore the lock violates the DMCA. Hence is criminal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * With a caveat about checking your state laws the site below claims it is legal http://www.dvdbuyingguide.com/codefreedvd/tip8.html to purchase/own a region free dvd player. Amazon also sells region free dvd players (as well as those that can be unlocked). I would assume the law is the same for players like vlc and mplayer. And to the contrary this wikipedia entry even cites the region free restriction as a possible WTO violation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_region_code#Legal_concerns But if anyone actually knows the law that would be worth more than my 2 cents. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Palin is great for the media because she's such a wacko. It seems to me that if you aren't aware of that, then you just aren't paying attention. Specifically, you mentioned small government. If you go here: http://tinyurl.com/cyn3o5 and look for an article starting with Palin As Reformer, you can get some background on her. Both as mayor of Wasilla and as governor, Palin has aggressively sought federal earmarks, and has a friendlier relationship with indicted GOP senator Ted Stevens than one would expect for a good-government crusader. She has fired employees who she sees as disloyal. And, in a move reminiscent of the Bush-Cheney White House, she has stonewalled legitimate efforts by the legislature to uncover the truth in the Trooper-Gate affair. The article goes on to list some more of her reformist credentials. Each item on the list includes links to articles to back it up. Have fun! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
As far as Palin's religion goes, check out this article: http://tinyurl.com/6rwm5y It's called Palin's Movement Urges 'Godly' To 'Plunder' Wealth of The 'Godless' * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
And now you reference the Huff Po? Do you read anything that is not an organ of the left? Tell me, were they as critical of Obama's 20 year relationship with Rev. Wright? Why do I think not? Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Jordan wrote: As far as Palin's religion goes, check out this article: http://tinyurl.com/6rwm5y It's called Palin's Movement Urges 'Godly' To 'Plunder' Wealth of The 'Godless' * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Talking Point Memo as a good source of impartial information on Palin? Please ... Oh, and yes, I read it all before during the campaign. If it was not so sad, it would have been funny to see the left and the main stream media (not that there is much difference between the two, its just that the first one admits their bias) go after Palin and her actual executive record with actual malice in a way that they never attempted wrt to the annointed one. Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Jordan wrote: Palin is great for the media because she's such a wacko. It seems to me that if you aren't aware of that, then you just aren't paying attention. Specifically, you mentioned small government. If you go here: http://tinyurl.com/cyn3o5 and look for an article starting with Palin As Reformer, you can get some background on her. Both as mayor of Wasilla and as governor, Palin has aggressively sought federal earmarks, and has a friendlier relationship with indicted GOP senator Ted Stevens than one would expect for a good- government crusader. She has fired employees who she sees as disloyal. And, in a move reminiscent of the Bush-Cheney White House, she has stonewalled legitimate efforts by the legislature to uncover the truth in the Trooper-Gate affair. The article goes on to list some more of her reformist credentials. Each item on the list includes links to articles to back it up. Have fun! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
And speaking of the New Deal there is this interesting article in the WSJ (yes, capitalist conservative): http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123353276749137485.html The downturn of 1937-38 was preceded by large wage hikes that pushed wages well above their NIRA levels, following the Supreme Court's 1937 decision that upheld the constitutionality of the National Labor Relations Act. These wage hikes led to further job loss, particularly in manufacturing. The recession in a depression thus was not the result of a reversal of New Deal policies, as argued by some, but rather a deepening of New Deal polices that raised wages even further above their competitive levels, and which further prevented the normal forces of supply and demand from restoring full employment. Our research indicates that New Deal labor and industrial policies prolonged the Depression by seven years. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Destroy ALL the data
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote: i just went in and asked my wife about fannie. she was the xerox analyst for fannie. she said they were very smart. very smart is the best the fed govt gets, and fed govt does computer very well. overall, they are much smarter than most any large company, as they are not cost limited by some idiot in accounting that sez the machine(mainframe or whatever) has to be amortized over 15 years or some such loonie toons. the fbi and tsa are not considered govt operations. Fannie and Freddie aren't government entities. They are both public corporations started with a federal mandate. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud
I think you're still misunderstanding the concept. Or purposely trying to obfuscate. Implementation of cloud computing hasn't really been possible until recent broadband penetration. But you insist on talking about 'many years' as if you've been avoiding a cloud by choice all this time. FWIW, my wife has been using Yahoo mail's web interface for years (a real cloud), and she's never lost an email, nor is she likely to anytime soon. Broadband penetration in the US is an oxymoron. I use Yahoo mail too. I've lost email. Their servers have crashed, for as long as a week--or more. Had to contact my remailer in Munich to change email. I hate the new Yahoo Mail interface. It's more cumbersome than the old interface. Perhaps your wife hasn't been using it as long as I have. That's why my email is spread out on servers around the world--and archived locally, too. As for the cloud, that's something that Larry Ellison of Oracle has been pushing for years, but not quite possible until recently with greater storage capability, faster/better apps, faster processors, more broadband, more players. Makes sense for corporations, and for individuals who need to use expensive software, but not all the time, and have fast reliable broadband. The cloud is a new name for an old idea. Technology has improved enough recently to implement it. It still sucks for individual users [except, maybe, email]. Give me fast, reliable, cheap broadband first, then I'll consider the cloud. Otherwise, it's just a pipe dream. Now Ellison is claiming that cloud computing may not be so profitable after all. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] most likely an eays itunes question...
GMTA...I just did that about four minutes before this email came in. heh I'm wondering if this is simply a preference in coding by the itunes guys...figuring that the same album name might crop up enough as to not let it be an album unless expressly noted if there are different artists. I'm thinking though that there are more albums with multiple artists then albums with the same names and years. Thanks for the tip Mike On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:04 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: Try highlighting the whole album and setting it to a compilation. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:35 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Album tags have been corrected. Even though album has the same name, it's still separating them by artist even when I sort by album. Mike On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:55 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: I put the soundtrack for collateral into itunes, all tags appear correct, artist is different for each track but album name is the same, COLLATERAL. Yet iTunes breaks it up so that each artist has it's own album, even when I tell it to sort by album. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong...? I've got somewhat the same problem with another album, ONE song on the album is kept on a seperate album even though all the tags appear correct. Any suggestions helpful. Your problem with the iTunes listings is that each song is from a different album, as well as used for a movie sound track. By changing the info tags you can keep them together as a sound track. Select all of the tracks together. Get Info [Command/Control + I]. You may get a warning that you don't want to edit more than one track at the same time. Ignore it. Select the Info tab in the dialog box. You can define the Album in the Album field. Don't edit any other fields, unless you want to give them a genre like Sound Track [bottom pull-down menu], and check the box for Compilation. Click OK Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] most likely an eays itunes question...
Album tags have been corrected. Even though album has the same name, it's still separating them by artist even when I sort by album. Don't you want each artist to be named? If not, just make the artist the same as the album for all. Or make a playlist for that compilation. I'd rather sort by album, then artist, but it's up to you how you want to sort. I usually make up a separate playlist for albums or favorite music. It doesn't matter how it's sorted in the library. The library is the contents of the database. The playlists separate those contents into desired pieces. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] most likely an eays itunes question...
It's not up to me, it's up to itunes in this case. Unless you punch in compilation, it won't let you sort by album if that album has multiple artists. I *want* it to sort by album, but was unable. The only thing I can assume is that itunes coders thought if you run across two albums both with mulitple artitsts and you sort by album, the two albums would be merged...so it forces you to select the album as one and mark compilation so it knows these multiple artists with one album name do in fact belong on the same album. I probably would have opted for letting itunes sort by album with multiple artists without the extra tagging, and then make you tag extra if you happen to have multiple unrelated albums named the same. Mike On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Album tags have been corrected. Even though album has the same name, it's still separating them by artist even when I sort by album. Don't you want each artist to be named? If not, just make the artist the same as the album for all. Or make a playlist for that compilation. I'd rather sort by album, then artist, but it's up to you how you want to sort. I usually make up a separate playlist for albums or favorite music. It doesn't matter how it's sorted in the library. The library is the contents of the database. The playlists separate those contents into desired pieces. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cut and paste a pdf
When I opened it in Acrobat Reader I couldn't copy. The document properties in Acrobat shows Content Copying: Not allowed Content Copying for Accessibility: Allowed Apparently, different viewers interpret these properties differently, since (as others have reported) it can be copied from it when it is opened in Safari using whatever (non-Adobe) PDF plugin I have, and likewise for Preview or in a little app called PDFview. Since it can be copied from using Evince in linux, I guess the solution isn't necessarily Get a Mac. Something else that would work is to run it through an OCR program, most of these can now be used with any PDF that can be opened. You're right, that doc is protected. If you can't talk them into sending you one that isn't, you may be forced to ocr. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:36 PM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote: link http://www.fanniemae.com/ir/pdf/earnings/2008/q32008.pdf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Implementation of cloud computing hasn't really been possible until recent broadband penetration. But you insist on talking about 'many years' as if you've been avoiding a cloud by choice all this time. One can certainly quibble about the cloud, but distributed computing, where you don't have to know where the computing is taking place, and it could take place anywhere in the world (or Solar System), is a very old concept. Scientists have implemented this for many years. Fifteen years ago I was involved with grid computing where you sent off executiable code to be executed somewhere else for you. Even before that there were other efforts to use many different computers across the world. You don't really need broadband for cloud computing, unless you need fast interactive responses with lots of graphics. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500ref=mf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Matthew S. Taylor wrote: And now you reference the Huff Po? Do you read anything that is not an organ of the left? Everything I gave a link to had links to generally well researched articles sighting points of fact. Research things down to the facts. The fact speak for themselves. Sounds like you only trust the talking points from Rush and Fuax News. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud
Yeah, I remember when thin clients were only dumb terminals. A long time ago. - Original Message - From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es The cloud is a new name for an old idea. Technology has improved enough recently to implement it. It still sucks for individual users [except, maybe, email]. Give me fast, reliable, cheap broadband first, then I'll consider the cloud. Otherwise, it's just a pipe dream. Now Ellison is claiming that cloud computing may not be so profitable after all. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The Cloud
One can certainly quibble about the cloud, but distributed computing, where you don't have to know where the computing is taking place, and it could take place anywhere in the world (or Solar System), is a very old concept. It has been around since the advent of the internet. The one significant thing achieved today is sufficient reliability to make it useful. AJAX-based interfaces have also made it much more pleasant to use. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What is a good free DVD Player PC software?
But if anyone actually knows the law that would be worth more than my 2 cents. And please remember, if you are getting close enough to illegal that you require the services of a lawyer to navigate, you are way too close for the purposes of this discussion list. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What is a good free DVD Player PC software?
Blah. Are you working for Apple and the MPAA? For the record, and I'm sure you'll think it's a bogus page I built myself so I won't link it...but they sell region free players. You can buy one. YOU can buy one. RIGHT NOW...you can buy it and have it delivered, have the neighbor kid set the time and hook it up and watch a movie. What is your stake in promoting something as illegal when it's not? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: But if anyone actually knows the law that would be worth more than my 2 cents. And please remember, if you are getting close enough to illegal that you require the services of a lawyer to navigate, you are way too close for the purposes of this discussion list. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
McCain was a tempting candidate for a short time. Then he opened his mouth. Then he picked a running mate for VP. That pretty much sealed the deal. Before I get slammed, Ha. No slamming here--you are one right-thinking dude. Check my little blog: http://justweirdstuff.blogspot.com/. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Fedora and a Mac home network
I just loaded Fedora 10 on a computer and would like to add it to my home network which consists of Macintosh computers. It can find the internet via Ethernet or wireless. How can I get it to be recognized and/or have it recognize my iMac running OS 10.4.11? Thanks Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Then why didn't you vote for Bob Barr? He supported all your views. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Matthew S. Taylor taylorsmatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious - why Wow? 1. I favor a limited government of enumerated powers (gov't may only do what it is expressly permitted rather than everything not expressly forbidden). 2. I favor free market economics. 3. I favor a robust foreign policy restrained by constitutional restrictions on the executives ability to make war (something we have not seen since, oh, 1945 *sigh*). 4. I favor a personally liberal society (as in I support the liberty of the individual vs. the group). 5. I am not in any way religious - I simply don't understand the urge to find faith in any religious dogma of revealed truth. Clearly, in the current American political climate, I am not going to see a major party candidate who I align perfectly with, so I have to decide which things I can give on in any given election. In this election I saw in Obama as meeting none of my positions (with the possible exception of 5, but that just means he was a fraud wrt religion). I saw McCain as possibly in line with 4, but that was it. Palin appeared to at least hit 1 and 2 in large part as well as 4. Not bad given what I am usually given as choices, but as she was only the VP choice, not enough to make me hold my nose and vote for McCain. Matthew * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Matthew S. Taylor wrote: McCain was never in the least bit tempting for me (due to his attitudes toward mere free speech and such) until he picked Palin. Then I seriously thought about voting for her for her small government views in spite of her cultural conservatism. All I can say is WOW!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
McCain was never in the least bit tempting for me (due to his attitudes toward mere free speech and such) until he picked Palin. Then I seriously thought about voting for her for her small government views in spite of her cultural conservatism. In the end I went third party (which in MD is easy - the state will go in the D column pretty much guaranteed. On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:50 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: McCain was a tempting candidate for a short time. Then he opened his mouth. Then he picked a running mate for VP. That pretty much sealed the deal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fedora and a Mac home network
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I just loaded Fedora 10 on a computer and would like to add it to my home network which consists of Macintosh computers. It can find the internet via Ethernet or wireless. How can I get it to be recognized and/or have it recognize my iMac running OS 10.4.11? Well, first of all, we need to know what you want your network to do. If you're sharing files, then you have several options. The traditional Unix/Linux file sharing uses something called NFS which is a little difficult to configure, and can sometimes lock up when the file server is unreachable. Linux can speak Mac's native file sharing with a package called netatalk (Net AppleTalk). However, the easiest actually seems to be to get both sides to speak the Window's native file sharing. I think (Tom can correct me if I'm wrong) that Mac OS X can natively share files with Windows. And Linux can use a package called Samba to share (as client or server) files. The OS X side of things can be found here... and the Fedora is very similar. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=173 -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Changing web page host...
ISP... I have a complex site, many pages: http://pw2.netcom.com/~mvp1/soloproviders1.htm I think you would have little trouble moving this to Google. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What is a good free DVD Player PC software?
For the record, and I'm sure you'll think it's a bogus page I built myself so I won't link it...but they sell region free players. You can buy one. YOU can buy one. RIGHT NOW...you can buy it and have it delivered, have the neighbor kid set the time and hook it up and watch a movie. What is your stake in promoting something as illegal when it's not? I just Googled the topic and found a range of opinions. In some countries it is definitely illegal. In the US there is debate about whether it covered under the DMCA. As soon as there is a definite court ruling on this I will adjust my opinion. Until then we play it safe. Maybe you are comfortable taking a she looked 18 to me defense, but I'm not. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Why? Were you under the impression I was a diest? Choosing Gold over God is a good indicator of avarice. False distinction. By definition excessive taxation would not be good governance. Then we clearly do not have good governance today, and throwing more money at it won't create it. Case closed. That's right we don't have good governance today. Due to the excessive influence of the cons/noecons the public sector is starved. This morning NPR reported that 20 years ago the US spent 7 percent of GNP on infrastructure, now it is just 4 percent. That's why roads and bridges are crumbling and water main breaks are a daily occurance. Voluntary associations. You must have heard of them? You know, voluntary fire companies, service organizations, the Boy Scouts, etc., etc.. All run better and leaner than government. That is simply bullshit. A fantasy you perpetuate to justy cupidity. Oh, so you get to decide what my fair share is? Who was it who said To each according to their needs ... Once again name calling substituted for rational thought. So what is the alternative to each according to their needs? You let you neighbors starve to death or die from minor, untreated diseases. Last month a local 12-year-old boy dies of a toothache. Untreated the infection spread to his brain. It was a long agonizing death. Oh, so you get to decide what my fair share is? Who was it who said To each according to their needs ... I think you have amply demonstrated that you should not be the decider. I definitely would be better at it than you, but I will leave it to our elected officials. I really don't want to be dictator. My standard is there must be a compelling need before I use government to take from my neighbor. Good. Meeting compelling needs is exactly what I'm focusing on. I'm glad we are finally in agreement. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
What really gets me is people always seem to think government is this nefarious bunch out to ruin our lives. In the US the government is us. Self loathing isn't new. In fact I think a small amount of it is healthy. It keeps a person focused. The cons/neocons self-loathing gets me too. For the most part high-level civil-service managers are very bright, well educated, and very dedicated. I have known many. The evil ones are the political appointees put in place by con/neocon adminstrations. Those people are truly loathsome. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Really Tom, what is this analogy of sharing toys about? When you share toys, it is with the understanding that 1. Some party owns the toys and 2. that party expects them to be returned, undiminished, when play time is over. How does this apply to taxation? Taxes are the price we pay for civilization. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes That says it pretty well. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
At 05:59 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Choosing Gold over God is a good indicator of avarice. I would agree wholeheartedly. Luther once said you God is where your gold is. That's right we don't have good governance today. Due to the excessive influence of the cons/noecons the public sector is starved. This morning NPR reported that 20 years ago the US spent 7 percent of GNP on infrastructure, now it is just 4 percent. That's why roads and bridges are crumbling and water main breaks are a daily occurance. That decline did not just happen over the past 20 years. A lot of the expansion during the Clinton years was not in infrastructure!!! The Bridge in Minneapolis/St. Paul was a result of LONG TERM neglect during both Democratic and Republican administrations. We have been trying to do more with less for a long time. Voluntary associations. You must have heard of them? You know, voluntary fire companies, service organizations, the Boy Scouts, etc., etc.. All run better and leaner than government. That is simply bullshit. A fantasy you perpetuate to justy cupidity. Depends on where you live Tom. Many rural areas have some of the best volunteer Fire and rescue departments all funded out of volunteer hours and dollars. I would not want it on a national model, but I think more volunteerism would be for the better. If it were not for the National Guard and Reserves Americas defenses would not be what it is today. In the Air Force and Army they play an important and integral part, and a lot of their time is not paid Now I would not want a whole military of part-time/volunteer folks. It is best if it is done in tandem. (Oh by the way you get more bang for your buck with the Reserves/Guard. Studies have proven it.) Ask Kentucky what they would do if they did not have their National Guard available to do some of the work right now??? Oh when the Governor calls them up, they are paid by State Bucks, not Federal. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
In what way is a parent giving assets to a child undemocratic? Has any parent been denied the same opportunity, equal before the law? It makes no sense that an individual is free to give their money away, so long as they don't give it to their kin. I really do not understand the principles and assumptions that are at the root of your statements. Dynastic succession is fundamentally undemocratic. It is bad for society to let a small portion of the populace accumulate excessive wealth. It is even more undemocratic and unhealthy when that wealth is not earned. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Ethically, I believe I am compelled to help my neighbor in time of need. I reject any notion that I have the right to compel you to help your neighbor. Its a freedom thing. So you also reject the notion that your neighbor should be compelled to refrain from murdering you? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Then why didn't you vote for Bob Barr? He supported all your views. Bob Barr is a hypocrite. While in Congress he was constantly meddling in the affairs of the local people and acting a bully. His favorite tactic was to put holds on legislation important to the locals until they capitulated to his weird damands. A prime example of why I consider cons/neocons to be scumbags. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fedora and a Mac home network
(Tom can correct me if I'm wrong) that Mac OS X can natively share files with Windows. And Linux can use a package called Samba to share (as client or server) files. You are exactly right, but I have not tried it myself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Now I would not want a whole military of part-time/volunteer folks. It is best if it is done in tandem. (Oh by the way you get more bang for your buck with the Reserves/Guard. Studies have proven it.) Of course. The problem is that the cons/neocons push voluntary as a means of entirely opting out from their responsibilities. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Why? Were you under the impression I was a diest? Choosing Gold over God is a good indicator of avarice. Can't do the former if you don't believe the existence of the latter is proven. False distinction. By definition excessive taxation would not be good governance. Then we clearly do not have good governance today, and throwing more money at it won't create it. Case closed. That's right we don't have good governance today. Due to the excessive influence of the cons/noecons the public sector is starved. This morning NPR reported that 20 years ago the US spent 7 percent of GNP on infrastructure, now it is just 4 percent. That's why roads and bridges are crumbling and water main breaks are a daily occurance. The budgets at the federal and state level both are being starved by massive entitlement spending and as the population ages it will only grow worse. Any demographer will tell you this. 20 years ago we also spent a lot more on the military but we cut that back (some argue to far). What is interesting is it was never the federal gov't that paid for most roads (highways excepted) and water infrastructure - that is state and local. They have chosen, and in the case of entitlements have been forced, to spend on other things. You see this in state after state. Take MD for instance - hardly a state run by neo-cons or cons in any meaningful way. How come they are not massively better off for the lack? Voluntary associations. You must have heard of them? You know, voluntary fire companies, service organizations, the Boy Scouts, etc., etc.. All run better and leaner than government. That is simply bullshit. A fantasy you perpetuate to justy cupidity. Justy cupidity? Sounds like a really sick anime name. In any event, have you ever seen how such service organizations run? Compared their overhead vs. direct operations expense to that of government? How many are you involved with that you know so well that they do not run better and leaner than gov't? I have experience with all of them. Oh, so you get to decide what my fair share is? Who was it who said To each according to their needs ... Once again name calling substituted for rational thought. Where is the name calling? So what is the alternative to each according to their needs? You let you neighbors starve to death or die from minor, untreated diseases. Last month a local 12-year-old boy dies of a toothache. Untreated the infection spread to his brain. It was a long agonizing death. And his parents should be charged with negligence for the neglect that brought him to that point. I will bet his general hygiene and diet stank - if we are talking about the case I recall from the papers a while back, the reports certainly implied neglect. You just don't accept that not every problem is the responsibility of government. Oh, so you get to decide what my fair share is? Who was it who said To each according to their needs ... I think you have amply demonstrated that you should not be the decider. I definitely would be better at it than you, but I will leave it to our elected officials. I really don't want to be dictator. I think you have demonstrated that you want to pick everyone else's pocket so you can feel better about not helping out personally. If it is government's problem then you don't have to do anything. I prefer to go out and get my hands dirty supporting my community. My standard is there must be a compelling need before I use government to take from my neighbor. Good. Meeting compelling needs is exactly what I'm focusing on. I'm glad we are finally in agreement. Foreign wars of choice are a compelling need? The NEA is a compelling need? The war on drugs (and civil liberties) is a compelling need? Income transfers are a compelling need? No, they are not. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Everyone serves a god. Wether it be one from a formal religion or it be one of their own making. It is a persons choice, but everyone serves a god. Stewart At 07:06 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Can't do the former if you don't believe the existence of the latter is proven. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
He was a politician - same thing. No doubt Tom Oh, that 140K in taxes Daschel is your idol. On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Then why didn't you vote for Bob Barr? He supported all your views. Bob Barr is a hypocrite. While in Congress he was constantly meddling in the affairs of the local people and acting a bully. His favorite tactic was to put holds on legislation important to the locals until they capitulated to his weird damands. A prime example of why I consider cons/neocons to be scumbags. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Really Tom. When a neo-con, or trad-con, or blue-dog Democrat runs into a burning building (an honor I have not had) are they opting out? When vastly greater numbers of conservatives serve in uniform than liberals, are they opting out? Are the service groups throughout the land opting out? Get over your self righteousness. On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Now I would not want a whole military of part-time/volunteer folks. It is best if it is done in tandem. (Oh by the way you get more bang for your buck with the Reserves/Guard. Studies have proven it.) Of course. The problem is that the cons/neocons push voluntary as a means of entirely opting out from their responsibilities. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Do you need a lecture on positive vs. negative liberties? There is a big difference between what I must do, and what I must not do. As said earlier, and you keep ignoring, protection from predation is a key role of limited government. Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Ethically, I believe I am compelled to help my neighbor in time of need. I reject any notion that I have the right to compel you to help your neighbor. Its a freedom thing. So you also reject the notion that your neighbor should be compelled to refrain from murdering you? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
And completely fails to address your silly sharing toys analogy. On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Really Tom, what is this analogy of sharing toys about? When you share toys, it is with the understanding that 1. Some party owns the toys and 2. that party expects them to be returned, undiminished, when play time is over. How does this apply to taxation? Taxes are the price we pay for civilization. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes That says it pretty well. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Dynastic succession to power under law, to classic privilege (private law is the root as I recall) is undemocratic. There is nothing undemocratic about allowing a holder of wealth to give that wealth to the party of their choice, be it their children, a homeless shelter, the SDS, the NAACP, or the local PBA. It is theirs to dispense. How is it bad for society to allow any individual to prosper as a result of their efforts, and to share that prosperity with their children? Building a better life for oneself, and passing that on to their children, has been a prime motivator of human society from the earliest recorded time, and probably before that. Is it your preference that on death all assets revert to the state? On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: In what way is a parent giving assets to a child undemocratic? Has any parent been denied the same opportunity, equal before the law? It makes no sense that an individual is free to give their money away, so long as they don't give it to their kin. I really do not understand the principles and assumptions that are at the root of your statements. Dynastic succession is fundamentally undemocratic. It is bad for society to let a small portion of the populace accumulate excessive wealth. It is even more undemocratic and unhealthy when that wealth is not earned. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Now that is an interesting assertion. Also an interesting definition of god? Could you elaborate please? No one has ever told me I believed in God before, though many appear to have assumed I was of their or similar faith based on our association. Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 8:15 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Everyone serves a god. Wether it be one from a formal religion or it be one of their own making. It is a persons choice, but everyone serves a god. Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fedora and a Mac home network
I can confirm that both LINUX and OS X do SAMBA well to share with each other or Windows systems. Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: (Tom can correct me if I'm wrong) that Mac OS X can natively share files with Windows. And Linux can use a package called Samba to share (as client or server) files. You are exactly right, but I have not tried it myself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Kind of what I was thinking. Though not surprised by the comment considering it comes from a Reverend. Jeff M On Feb 2, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Now that is an interesting assertion. Also an interesting definition of god? Could you elaborate please? No one has ever told me I believed in God before, though many appear to have assumed I was of their or similar faith based on our association. Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 8:15 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Everyone serves a god. Wether it be one from a formal religion or it be one of their own making. It is a persons choice, but everyone serves a god. Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * The friend is the man who knows all about you, and still likes you. - Elbert Hubbard * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Now of course I come from the belief in only one God. But Luther stated that where ever you put your trust there is your god. For some they have made the gathering of wealth their god, others sports (do not get me started on that one) and still others politics. Essentially whatever a person puts first and foremost in their live can become and often is their god. I cannot prove that there is a God by any scientific means. For science is their God. To me I believe in my God by faith and trust. Luther put it this way, we should fear (awe,reverence) love and trust in God above all things. A god can be anything, and has been over time. As the saying goes choose your own poison. As I said this is my own belief, and no one has to hold to it if they do not want. Stewart At 07:45 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Now that is an interesting assertion. Also an interesting definition of god? Could you elaborate please? No one has ever told me I believed in God before, though many appear to have assumed I was of their or similar faith based on our association. Matthew Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
One of the biggest problems in any society is what level of regulation is proper. You can under regulate and over regulate. DMA can be seen by many (except for the RIAA and others) as over regulation. However the SEC can be seen as under regulating (Along with the FDA and others.) It is a fine balancing act that must always be looked at. It is never static. The problem is that I do not see either side having a monopoly on the proper balance. Politics is about trying to find balance. It is not easy. Stewart At 07:26 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Do you need a lecture on positive vs. negative liberties? There is a big difference between what I must do, and what I must not do. As said earlier, and you keep ignoring, protection from predation is a key role of limited government. Matthew Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
No, I think he meant that you shouldn't be prosecuted for violating the Good Samaritan law for which the Seinfeld 4 were found guilty in the last episode of the show. Tom Piwowar wrote: Ethically, I believe I am compelled to help my neighbor in time of need. I reject any notion that I have the right to compel you to help your neighbor. Its a freedom thing. So you also reject the notion that your neighbor should be compelled to refrain from murdering you? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
I agree. That's why this country is so great. It has the highest turnover of the very rich than any other country. However, I don't like the idea of the government determining excessive wealth. Is it Obama's 250K (salary), 1M, 5M, 10M, 50M, 500M? Tom Piwowar wrote: In what way is a parent giving assets to a child undemocratic? Has any parent been denied the same opportunity, equal before the law? It makes no sense that an individual is free to give their money away, so long as they don't give it to their kin. I really do not understand the principles and assumptions that are at the root of your statements. Dynastic succession is fundamentally undemocratic. It is bad for society to let a small portion of the populace accumulate excessive wealth. It is even more undemocratic and unhealthy when that wealth is not earned. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Actually it was the left which pushed for the all voluntary military. I remember it well, as I was a leftie back in the early '70s, primarily to keep my sorry ass from being sent to Nam. The Democratic Congress recognized that we could maintain a voluntary army in peace time, with the backing of the Reserves/Guard in time of war. Tom Piwowar wrote: Now I would not want a whole military of part-time/volunteer folks. It is best if it is done in tandem. (Oh by the way you get more bang for your buck with the Reserves/Guard. Studies have proven it.) Of course. The problem is that the cons/neocons push voluntary as a means of entirely opting out from their responsibilities. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fedora and a Mac home network
I just loaded Fedora 10 on a computer and would like to add it to my home network which consists of Macintosh computers. It can find the internet via Ethernet or wireless. How can I get it to be recognized and/or have it recognize my iMac running OS 10.4.11? Thanks Have you tried Samba? Manual is in OS X System. /usr/share/swat/using_samba/toc.html [use browser to find it] as is a developer's guide /usr/share/swat/help/Samba-Developers-Guide Use smb:// to connect to other volumes. The manual is the same as the one from O'Reilly Media. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
I am not sure that there is anywhere that I put my trust. I have met some of the gold is god congregation, as well as the temple of sports types. I don't understand them. I know folks who live and breath politics - they strike me as needing a life. By your first and foremost maxim then for me family and my obligation to serve and protect them is my god, though I would never have put it that way. I like to remind (at almost any opportunity, I am a baaad boy g) scientific atheists that they can not prove a negative. I find that I frequently have a lot in common with deeply religious folks with the glaring exceptions of their faith and attitudes toward libertine consensual recreation (even if I generally refrain, I just don't see it as wrong). Thank you for responding. Matthew On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Now of course I come from the belief in only one God. But Luther stated that where ever you put your trust there is your god. For some they have made the gathering of wealth their god, others sports (do not get me started on that one) and still others politics. Essentially whatever a person puts first and foremost in their live can become and often is their god. I cannot prove that there is a God by any scientific means. For science is their God. To me I believe in my God by faith and trust. Luther put it this way, we should fear (awe,reverence) love and trust in God above all things. A god can be anything, and has been over time. As the saying goes choose your own poison. As I said this is my own belief, and no one has to hold to it if they do not want. Stewart At 07:45 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Now that is an interesting assertion. Also an interesting definition of god? Could you elaborate please? No one has ever told me I believed in God before, though many appear to have assumed I was of their or similar faith based on our association. Matthew Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: One of the biggest problems in any society is what level of regulation is proper. Very true. You can under regulate and over regulate. DMA can be seen by many (except for the RIAA and others) as over regulation. However the SEC can be seen as under regulating (Along with the FDA and others.) You can also badly regulate what should be regulated, and well regulate what should have been left alone. It is a fine balancing act that must always be looked at. It is never static. The problem I see is many passionate regulators accept no principle on which to found the decision on wether or not to regulate. The problem is that I do not see either side having a monopoly on the proper balance. No, but I would rather err on the side of under regulation than over regulation until proven wrong. It is that liberty thing again. Politics is about trying to find balance. It is not easy. Politics is easy - implementing the decisions is hard. ;^) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Forget Karl Marx and neocons. This is a good place for an appropriately sensible quote from the Bible, like Matthew 25:31-46? [Matthew was a kool dood] ...when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? ...When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? ...When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'...The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'...'whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'...'Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.' Or do the neocons prefer Cain who whined, Am I my brother’s keeper? [Yes, we Unitarians also study Biblical history. Stewart - your turn!] OK, now back to computers. My PowerMac G5 had a BSOD yesterday. Painful, UGLY, until my husband told me he installed a ca. 2002 utility that hasn't worked since Jagwire, and G5 has Leopard. Went into command line, single user, and removed the APE bundle. Easy fix. Works like a charm. Next: BootCamp on my new iMac, maybe. Betty Why? Were you under the impression I was a diest? Choosing Gold over God is a good indicator of avarice. ...snip... Voluntary associations. You must have heard of them? You know, voluntary fire companies, service organizations, the Boy Scouts, etc., etc.. All run better and leaner than government. That is simply bullshit. A fantasy you perpetuate to justy cupidity. Oh, so you get to decide what my fair share is? Who was it who said To each according to their needs ... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] malware?
http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=MBcontact.com My Spybot has MBcontact.com blocked at the hosts file. But a friend (somewhat elderly) just sent them $35 for a Flash update. Or, at least, they're the only ones listed on the receipt he got. Has anyone heard of them or dealt with them? Or heard about a premium subscription to Flash updates??? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] malware?
It sounds like a third party billing company. Cannot verify them for anything, but reputable third party billing companies usually identify for whom they are billing. Stewart At 09:06 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=MBcontact.com My Spybot has MBcontact.com blocked at the hosts file. But a friend (somewhat elderly) just sent them $35 for a Flash update. Or, at least, they're the only ones listed on the receipt he got. Has anyone heard of them or dealt with them? Or heard about a premium subscription to Flash updates??? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Whoa! Way off topic! On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:50 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: OK, now back to computers. My PowerMac G5 had a BSOD yesterday. Painful, UGLY, until my husband told me he installed a ca. 2002 utility that hasn't worked since Jagwire, and G5 has Leopard. Went into command line, single user, and removed the APE bundle. Easy fix. Works like a charm. Next: BootCamp on my new iMac, maybe. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What is a good free DVD Player PC software?
Um, not all of us have lived our entire lives in the US, and some of us even have non region one dvds and non region one dvd players that we've purchased in other countries. --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] What is a good free DVD Player PC software? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:34 PM For the record, and I'm sure you'll think it's a bogus page I built myself so I won't link it...but they sell region free players. You can buy one. YOU can buy one. RIGHT NOW...you can buy it and have it delivered, have the neighbor kid set the time and hook it up and watch a movie. What is your stake in promoting something as illegal when it's not? I just Googled the topic and found a range of opinions. In some countries it is definitely illegal. In the US there is debate about whether it covered under the DMCA. As soon as there is a definite court ruling on this I will adjust my opinion. Until then we play it safe. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] malware?
I am afraid that with CC cards and Debit Cards theft has just been made easier. Stewart At 10:06 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Nope, nothing but a numerical 'merchant code' on his receipt. And prolonged questioning on the phone has given me no clues what he may have purchased. I've told him to delete the .exe file he was sent. When asked WHY he made the purchase, his only vague response was that he was worried about his car and I had told him to check for Flash updates and it was just easier to BUY the darned thing. My god, I try so hard to help people lock down their computers, but then something like this happens and leaves one feeling powerless. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: It sounds like a third party billing company. Cannot verify them for anything, but reputable third party billing companies usually identify for whom they are billing. Stewart At 09:06 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=MBcontact.com My Spybot has MBcontact.com blocked at the hosts file. But a friend (somewhat elderly) just sent them $35 for a Flash update. Or, at least, they're the only ones listed on the receipt he got. Has anyone heard of them or dealt with them? Or heard about a premium subscription to Flash updates??? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Not only that the Con's with the help of others have tried to kill the Guard and Reserve every chance they get. The last Quadrennial review in the 90's wiped out many of the same units that served with distinction in Desert Storm in the early 90's. Stewart At 07:36 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Actually it was the left which pushed for the all voluntary military. I remember it well, as I was a leftie back in the early '70s, primarily to keep my sorry ass from being sent to Nam. The Democratic Congress recognized that we could maintain a voluntary army in peace time, with the backing of the Reserves/Guard in time of war. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
Hey Betty never said you didn't. Anyone can study the Bible and I encourage folks to do so. You do not have to be religious to get something out of it. Just like you everyone has their chosen profession. Mine happens to be a minister. (By the way in answer to Cain's question (Not Mc) Yes we are our brothers keepers.) I would never begrudge you or anyone else theres. Stewart At 07:50 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote: Forget Karl Marx and neocons. This is a good place for an appropriately sensible quote from the Bible, like Matthew 25:31-46? [Matthew was a kool dood] ...when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? ...When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? ...When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'...The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'...'whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'...'Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.' Or do the neocons prefer Cain who whined, Am I my brotherâs keeper? [Yes, we Unitarians also study Biblical history. Stewart - your turn!] OK, now back to computers. My PowerMac G5 had a BSOD yesterday. Painful, UGLY, until my husband told me he installed a ca. 2002 utility that hasn't worked since Jagwire, and G5 has Leopard. Went into command line, single user, and removed the APE bundle. Easy fix. Works like a charm. Next: BootCamp on my new iMac, maybe. Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google weirdness and Firefox on Windows?
When doing a web search, every site bears the legend this site may harm your computer. I had a sort-of similar problem with IE a couple weeks ago -- every site was going to do harm and I thought I had a virus. Turned out I had checked the calendar in the tray to find a date and inadvertently closed it without checking that I had gone back to the current date. Seems unlikely you would have done that but just check to be sure your clock is correct before you start running down other stuff. Warm regards Gail Miller * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
