Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search
Anecdotal, and completely wrong. All video is digital these days, so unless you do something wrong, you'll get out what you put in. i.e., The quality of the parts in the computer has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of your finished video. to out of a PC. One fellow, who actually works professionally in the audio/video field, suggests that the Mac has superior component parts that enable the video to be of higher quality. Purely anecdotal information. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
Alas, this was true in the Old Days, but as has been pointed out on this list before, what used to be classic phone service has slowly been changing over the years. Sometimes it's obvious when someone installs VOIP, sometimes it's not so obvious when the phone company just changes things behind the scenes. I know in my own case it made no sense to be paying the hefty price for a classic landline from the phone company once I had broadband, so I went VOIP a couple years ago. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jeff Milesjmile...@charter.net wrote: I've found the land line phone the most reliable, especially in power outages. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Tony Bton...@gmail.com wrote: Anecdotal, and completely wrong. All video is digital these days, so unless you do something wrong, you'll get out what you put in. i.e., The quality of the parts in the computer has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of your finished video. I respectfully disagree with you. A lot of stuff takes place ion the rendering of video, and while it may all be digital, the design of, how well and in what manner various digital signals are processed can have a noticeable effect upon the output on screen. Ditto for digital audio. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Video Codec Search
Try www.free-codecs.com Subject: Re: Video codec search From: trac...@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:24:20 EDT Thanks for the advice but I already discounted the I give up and quit solution to this for the time being. I was actually looking for advice as to address the concern from a technical point of view because periodically I have to shoot in the MOV format due to the requests of others and I would still like to do work on the files for my own archives. Still looking for the ACM Codec if someone can assist. Tracy In a message dated 7/11/2009 8:11:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lists...@listserv.aol.com writes: Date:Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:50:57 EDT From: trac...@aol.com Subject: Video codec search Just got a new camcorder. Shoots in MOV or MP4. MP4 not a problem to deal with BUT.the MOV clips (native to Final Cut Pro[Mac]) are posing a problem. I am using Vegas Pro 9 on my Windows Vista PC as a Non-Linear Editor and was told that transcoding away from the MOV files to something more Vegas Friendly is the way to go. Purchased Video Converter from AVS4U software and tried to do that. Once I chose the MOV file to convert I get an error message ACM Video Codec not installed. I have been searching high and low for this codec and cannot find it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Or offer suggestions? Thanks, Tracy - Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:05:03 -0400 From:Tony B ton...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Video codec search No, don't bother trying to use .mov at all on a PC. It's never worked right for me, and will likely never work right for you. Stick with the AVC (mp4) format. **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377098x1201454399/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again friends...
Would you believe me...Kodak has a program that you can download and run to uninstall the EasyShare: http://wwwca.kodak.com/global/en/service/downloads/private/dln7Clear2_0_Utility.jhtml Marcio -Original Message- From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 12, 2009 8:57 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again friends... For the short term, you can keep it from automatically running by disabling it in the Startup window. Start Run msconfig Startup Richard P. I am trying to uninstall the program Kodak EasyShare. I can´t find it to delete it. It is not in the Control Panel´s Add and Remove Programs... There is not an uninstall in the program files... But the program is there and it opens and it even - if I allow it - is in the start programs with an icon in the lower bar... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] silvery
Good point, old film, clearly states proposed shield system ...I think it was just to demo it. Still, I think there is food for thought here (not in the trash can). -Original Message- From: Eric S. Sande [mailto:esa...@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: silvery Except that the passport shown was not RFID equipped. RFID passports have a symbol under the United States of America part on the front cover. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Us-passport.jpg * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] silvery
what items have RFID? how does one tell? (I saw the version of US passport online that has RFID) On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:12 PM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: Good point, old film, clearly states proposed shield system ...I think it was just to demo it. Still, I think there is food for thought here (not in the trash can). -Original Message- From: Eric S. Sande [mailto:esa...@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: silvery Except that the passport shown was not RFID equipped. RFID passports have a symbol under the United States of America part on the front cover. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Us-passport.jpg * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] silvery
Are there inexpensive scanners available? Seems like a good thing for one to have... countermeasures / escalation is inherent with every technology. db Judy Cosler wrote: what items have RFID? how does one tell? (I saw the version of US passport online that has RFID) On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:12 PM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: Good point, old film, clearly states proposed shield system ...I think it was just to demo it. Still, I think there is food for thought here (not in the trash can). -Original Message- From: Eric S. Sande [mailto:esa...@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: silvery Except that the passport shown was not RFID equipped. RFID passports have a symbol under the United States of America part on the front cover. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Us-passport.jpg * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various labels first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your Labeled Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. All sorted so to speak. Does anyone know if you do it the other way around... if you have a Tbird POP account with various folders on your local machine tied to your domain name being served up by some ISP and you change the domain named server mail to be/ to forward to a Google email account, when they sync for the first time will all your Thunderbird POP folders be synced/ uploaded on to Gmail's server as Labels archived or otherwise? I suspect not because of the difference between POP and IMAP but what I am REALLY curious to know is once the connection is made and an IMAP Google acct. has been configed in Tbird, will I be able to simply drag the folders on the client machine from the POP local Tbird client folders to the local Tbird's Google IMAP account folders and then will Google server see them/ upload/ sync them and accept them as labeled perhaps archived mail? Has anyone done this before? db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley
Here are two very recent posts by the honorable(?) Chuck Grassley to his Twitter account: Watch Supreme Court nominee on TV b4 judiciary. I b there most of this wk. Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy u?Lets talk. Anyone got a fourteen year old around who can decipher that last one which would seem to have been written by a twelve year old? Personally, I refuse to communicate in such a Neanderthal fashion. Is this what we are becoming thanx to technology? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley
Here are two very recent posts by the honorable(?) Chuck Grassley to his Twitter account: Watch Supreme Court nominee on TV b4 judiciary. I b there most of this wk. Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy u?Lets talk. Anyone got a fourteen year old around who can decipher that last one which would seem to have been written by a twelve year old? Personally, I refuse to communicate in such a Neanderthal fashion. Is this what we are becoming thanx to technology? I love it. It only highlights the reality that our elected representatives are, in fact, complete and total boobs. Twitter on, I say. It can only work against them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: A wife of a friend of mine calls and ichats all the time. It's annoying as hell. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/misanthropy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
This is fairly normal behavior for humans. Normal people are very social. They like to interact with other people and make plans for future opportunities for further social interaction. 6 to 7 instances of social interaction in an 8 hour work day is hardly noteworthy. On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: A lady who works where I do talks on her cell phone while at work about 6 to 7 times a day, and gets or sends a similar number of text messages each day as well. I know for a fact that it is, with very few exceptions, nothing but idle chit-chat of no importance, yet she is compelled to do it daily. There must be some clinical term for her compulsive habit. I'd say craving attention but that is not really a clinical term. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
A wife of a friend of mine calls and ichats all the time. It's annoying as hell. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/misanthropy Or, she's just annoying as hell. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley
On Jul 13, 2009, at 5:46 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy u?Lets talk. Twitter's max is 140 chrs. The above is 139. What's yr problem? Back in the days of your youth Western Union charged by the word and charged more for punctuation than they did for words stop anyone who was not an idiot adapted their language accordingly stop BTW Grassley is one of the few conservatives who is not an utter nincompoop. When he speaks or twits it is worth paying attention -- even if it taxes your brain. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
This is fairly normal behavior for humans. Normal people are very social. They like to interact with other people and make plans for future opportunities for further social interaction. 6 to 7 instances of social interaction in an 8 hour work day is hardly noteworthy. I read that as she doesn't have enough work to do if she has enough time to chat on her personal cell phone 6-7 times per day. Of course, she could be talking to her mother, but the fact remains. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley
We keep hearing how tech savvy the big O admin is, he carries a blackberry and knows how to use it etc etc. Report recently read that the O team is going to spend upwards of 10 mil in the next six months to redesign a website. Well someone sure knows what they are doing...nothing like recovery dot swindle. On a related note, the company in charge put out a hire notice for ONE new web designer. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: Here are two very recent posts by the honorable(?) Chuck Grassley to his Twitter account: Watch Supreme Court nominee on TV b4 judiciary. I b there most of this wk. Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy u?Lets talk. Anyone got a fourteen year old around who can decipher that last one which would seem to have been written by a twelve year old? Personally, I refuse to communicate in such a Neanderthal fashion. Is this what we are becoming thanx to technology? I love it. It only highlights the reality that our elected representatives are, in fact, complete and total boobs. Twitter on, I say. It can only work against them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search
On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:22 PM, mike wrote: That just proves he should stop buying cheap pc's. Is there any other kind? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley
Every team has to have one who isn't a ninny. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:58 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: BTW Grassley is one of the few conservatives who is not an utter nincompoop. When he speaks or twits it is worth paying attention -- even if it taxes your brain. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley
BTW Grassley is one of the few conservatives who is not an utter nincompoop. When he speaks or twits it is worth paying attention -- even if it taxes your brain. Yes, especially when he comes hat-in-hand for another generous handout for the poor, suffering Archer Daniels Midland. How's that ethanol mandate working out? Is it a net positive energy source yet or emit less CO2 to produce than it supposedly reduces? On the plus side, his slimy actions have made sugar cost competitive again (which it would be already if it too weren't a guvmint protected industry) and more companies are changing their formulas back to use sugar. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search
Old chinese proverb says, A closed mind is like...oh screw it who cares. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:22 PM, mike wrote: That just proves he should stop buying cheap pc's. Is there any other kind? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:43 PM, t.piwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: This is fairly normal behavior for humans. Normal people are very social. They like to interact with other people and make plans for future opportunities for further social interaction. 6 to 7 instances of social interaction in an 8 hour work day is hardly noteworthy. Perhaps the total number of calls, er, social interaction, you do not find particularly noteworthy in an office environment. However, what if I told you, and I probably should have done so in the initial post, that this gal often spends a half hour or so on a call? She will even leave her seat at her desk to find a more comfortable chair for the duration of some of her conversations. I'd say that about one to two hours a day on the phone is kinda normal. Now, to me, that is very bad, and indicates some sort of an emotional problem. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:04 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various labels first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your Labeled Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. All sorted so to speak. Does anyone know if you do it the other way around... if you have a Tbird POP account with various folders on your local machine tied to your domain name being served up by some ISP and you change the domain named server mail to be/ to forward to a Google email account, when they sync for the first time will all your Thunderbird POP folders be synced/ uploaded on to Gmail's server as Labels archived or otherwise? I suspect not because of the difference between POP and IMAP but what I am REALLY curious to know is once the connection is made and an IMAP Google acct. has been configed in Tbird, will I be able to simply drag the folders on the client machine from the POP local Tbird client folders to the local Tbird's Google IMAP account folders and then will Google server see them/ upload/ sync them and accept them as labeled perhaps archived mail? Has anyone done this before? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search
You may disagree, but you will still be wrong. I can test it for you if you like, because we still have several old Pentium 4 systems, as well as newr Core2. If you render the same settings on both machines the output will be bit for bit identical. In fact, for years I used an old Pentium 2 to render my digital video files. It took all night, but the resulting file is exactly the same as if I'd rendered on better machines. I think what may be confusing you are the various codecs and choices involved these days. As I said, if the operator makes an error in rendering, then you may notice a tremendous difference. But that's wetware; the hardware has nothing to do with it. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:36 AM, phartz...@gmail.comphartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Tony Bton...@gmail.com wrote: Anecdotal, and completely wrong. All video is digital these days, so unless you do something wrong, you'll get out what you put in. i.e., The quality of the parts in the computer has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of your finished video. I respectfully disagree with you. A lot of stuff takes place ion the rendering of video, and while it may all be digital, the design of, how well and in what manner various digital signals are processed can have a noticeable effect upon the output on screen. Ditto for digital audio. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
One of my bosses is like this. She'll get on the phone with a client and spend an hour without thinking anything of it. e.g. When I answered phones, I'd get their number/email and send a fax/email with directions. She laboriously walks them through directions on the phone, having them write it down. Takes forever, and she often juggles calls on call waiting (Hold on. I'll be back in just a second). On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:51 PM, phartz...@gmail.comphartz...@gmail.com wrote: not find particularly noteworthy in an office environment. However, what if I told you, and I probably should have done so in the initial post, that this gal often spends a half hour or so on a call? She will even leave her seat at her desk to find a more comfortable chair for the duration of some of her conversations. I'd say that about one to two hours a day on the phone is kinda normal. Now, to me, that is very bad, and indicates some sort of an emotional problem. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
Good point. Creature of habit I guess... To do that ... how would one transfer email stored by a email client software to a new google web email account? Need to have the existing 1 GB email store from a non google computer based email client account uploaded somehow ... which goes back to at least part of my original question... db Tony B wrote: No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:04 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various labels first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your Labeled Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. All sorted so to speak. Does anyone know if you do it the other way around... if you have a Tbird POP account with various folders on your local machine tied to your domain name being served up by some ISP and you change the domain named server mail to be/ to forward to a Google email account, when they sync for the first time will all your Thunderbird POP folders be synced/ uploaded on to Gmail's server as Labels archived or otherwise? I suspect not because of the difference between POP and IMAP but what I am REALLY curious to know is once the connection is made and an IMAP Google acct. has been configed in Tbird, will I be able to simply drag the folders on the client machine from the POP local Tbird client folders to the local Tbird's Google IMAP account folders and then will Google server see them/ upload/ sync them and accept them as labeled perhaps archived mail? Has anyone done this before? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
I suppose you could mail yourself a big text file. Personally, I just kept the old client around a while until I was sure I didn't need it (but obviously I disabled the automatic mail checking). After a few months the older emails are of no interest except archival. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: Good point. Creature of habit I guess... To do that ... how would one transfer email stored by a email client software to a new google web email account? Need to have the existing 1 GB email store from a non google computer based email client account uploaded somehow ... which goes back to at least part of my original question... db Tony B wrote: No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:04 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various labels first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your Labeled Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. All sorted so to speak. Does anyone know if you do it the other way around... if you have a Tbird POP account with various folders on your local machine tied to your domain name being served up by some ISP and you change the domain named server mail to be/ to forward to a Google email account, when they sync for the first time will all your Thunderbird POP folders be synced/ uploaded on to Gmail's server as Labels archived or otherwise? I suspect not because of the difference between POP and IMAP but what I am REALLY curious to know is once the connection is made and an IMAP Google acct. has been configed in Tbird, will I be able to simply drag the folders on the client machine from the POP local Tbird client folders to the local Tbird's Google IMAP account folders and then will Google server see them/ upload/ sync them and accept them as labeled perhaps archived mail? Has anyone done this before? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
Wrong. You mention 6-7 interactions being not noteworthy. You failed to include 6-7 cell phone interactions. At the work place, if your job doesn't require a phone, it's very noteworthy. If it isn't required and interrupts job performance the person should be warned. If the activity isn't stopped they should be fired. Cell phone use by some has seemed to require social interaction that is unnecessary. What, were we a bunch of social hermits before cell phones? I know I had plenty of friends. Where have they all gone? Oh that's right, they're all on the cell phone so no longer feel the need to drop by. Jeff M On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:43 PM, t.piwowar wrote: This is fairly normal behavior for humans. Normal people are very social. They like to interact with other people and make plans for future opportunities for further social interaction. 6 to 7 instances of social interaction in an 8 hour work day is hardly noteworthy. On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: A lady who works where I do talks on her cell phone while at work about 6 to 7 times a day, and gets or sends a similar number of text messages each day as well. I know for a fact that it is, with very few exceptions, nothing but idle chit-chat of no importance, yet she is compelled to do it daily. There must be some clinical term for her compulsive habit. I'd say craving attention but that is not really a clinical term. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
Gmail can import from a POP3 mailbox: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=21288 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=21288Tony - sure, it might not be of interest except archival. But given the indexing tools you get with gmail... thats a bonus! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Good point. Creature of habit I guess... To do that ... how would one transfer email stored by a email client software to a new google web email account? Need to have the existing 1 GB email store from a non google computer based email client account uploaded somehow ... which goes back to at least part of my original question... db Tony B wrote: No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:04 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various labels first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your Labeled Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. All sorted so to speak. Does anyone know if you do it the other way around... if you have a Tbird POP account with various folders on your local machine tied to your domain name being served up by some ISP and you change the domain named server mail to be/ to forward to a Google email account, when they sync for the first time will all your Thunderbird POP folders be synced/ uploaded on to Gmail's server as Labels archived or otherwise? I suspect not because of the difference between POP and IMAP but what I am REALLY curious to know is once the connection is made and an IMAP Google acct. has been configed in Tbird, will I be able to simply drag the folders on the client machine from the POP local Tbird client folders to the local Tbird's Google IMAP account folders and then will Google server see them/ upload/ sync them and accept them as labeled perhaps archived mail? Has anyone done this before? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
There you go. I think I've heard the same story about 20 times. And telling her you've heard this before doesn't stop her. I have been reduced to using the away or invisible option on iChat. The persons who included these options truly understand how annoying cell phones can be. Jeff M On Jul 13, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: A wife of a friend of mine calls and ichats all the time. It's annoying as hell. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/misanthropy Or, she's just annoying as hell. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
I don't think this is what he was asking. I thought he wanted to know how to get all his *old* emails out of tbird on his machine and into gmail. Once you're using gmail, there's no need for this Mail Fetcher, as you should just *forward* all your other accounts to gmail. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Allen Firstenbergcg...@addventure.com wrote: Gmail can import from a POP3 mailbox: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=21288 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=21288Tony - sure, it might not be of interest except archival. But given the indexing tools you get with gmail... thats a bonus! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Good point. Creature of habit I guess... To do that ... how would one transfer email stored by a email client software to a new google web email account? Need to have the existing 1 GB email store from a non google computer based email client account uploaded somehow ... which goes back to at least part of my original question... db Tony B wrote: No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:04 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various labels first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your Labeled Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. All sorted so to speak. Does anyone know if you do it the other way around... if you have a Tbird POP account with various folders on your local machine tied to your domain name being served up by some ISP and you change the domain named server mail to be/ to forward to a Google email account, when they sync for the first time will all your Thunderbird POP folders be synced/ uploaded on to Gmail's server as Labels archived or otherwise? I suspect not because of the difference between POP and IMAP but what I am REALLY curious to know is once the connection is made and an IMAP Google acct. has been configed in Tbird, will I be able to simply drag the folders on the client machine from the POP local Tbird client folders to the local Tbird's Google IMAP account folders and then will Google server see them/ upload/ sync them and accept them as labeled perhaps archived mail? Has anyone done this before? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley
On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:09 PM, mike wrote: Report recently read that the O team is going to spend upwards of 10 mil in the next six months to redesign a website. Well someone sure knows what they are doing...nothing like recovery dot swindle. That price tag would be on the low end for a major site. I've dissected some of the administrations new quickie websites and I'm impressed by their good engineering and good software choices. No dot Net to be seen. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search
On Jul 13, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Tony B wrote: I think what may be confusing you are the various codecs and choices involved these days. As I said, if the operator makes an error in rendering, then you may notice a tremendous difference. But that's wetware; the hardware has nothing to do with it. Trying to work is the loosey goosie world of Windows where everything is broke or incompatible or just a little bit hinkey does not put one in a calm frame of mind where good creative decisions can be reliably made. I don't blame the wetware as much as the negative impact the OS has on the wetware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:51 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say that about one to two hours a day on the phone is kinda normal. Now, to me, that is very bad, and indicates some sort of an emotional problem. I judge people by what they accomplish, not whether the look good while accomplishing it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. I don't like how Gmail organizes everything by thread, with no option to instead organize messages by time received. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones
You own cell phone stock don't you? On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:50 PM, t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:51 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say that about one to two hours a day on the phone is kinda normal. Now, to me, that is very bad, and indicates some sort of an emotional problem. I judge people by what they accomplish, not whether the look good while accomplishing it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
I also find web mail so slow. I deal with hundreds of emails per day. Yes, mostly spam, but they are so easy to deal with in a fast email client as compared to using web mail. And this may be a stupid question. I used to be an ATT web service tech. That was almost 10 years ago. I've forgot most, but wasn't POP3 always faster then SMTP? Thankfully only for my only measly little needs I no longer care much about this stuff. But on occasion a question comes up. And if POP3 was faster, but no longer, is it due to the wide spread use of HTML in email? In deference to what it may seem due to my other past posts, I like text, but only in email. Wait, I take that back. I also like to receive a snail mail letter or card every once and awhile. Jeff M On Jul 13, 2009, at 8:19 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. I don't like how Gmail organizes everything by thread, with no option to instead organize messages by time received. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
What in the world are you talking about? Everything in my Inbox is listed by time received. But everything in my Cguys 'folder' is listed by thread *and* time received. I'm not sure what you want - a folder full of cguys postings where the posts just flow randomly as people respond, rather than threaded for easy reading? On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Jeff Wrightjswri...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like how Gmail organizes everything by thread, with no option to instead organize messages by time received. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
You really are dating yourself. The modern AJAX web mail clients are every bit as fast as a local client (since the code runs locally). This has been true for a couple years now. And they have added advantages e.g. Being able to access your email from multiple computers (home work), and automatically backing up emails in the cloud. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Jeff Milesjmile...@charter.net wrote: I also find web mail so slow. I deal with hundreds of emails per day. Yes, mostly spam, but they are so easy to deal with in a fast email client as compared to using web mail. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
Yeh, I've notice the AJAX web mail clients are fast ... especially if they are running on Chrome. i suppose that is where the future is but I generally don't like webmail interfaces (too much clicking around...) as well as desktop clients, you have to look at advertising with most of the webmail clients and I like being able to work on mail when I don't have an internet connection. db Tony B wrote: You really are dating yourself. The modern AJAX web mail clients are every bit as fast as a local client (since the code runs locally). This has been true for a couple years now. And they have added advantages e.g. Being able to access your email from multiple computers (home work), and automatically backing up emails in the cloud. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Jeff Milesjmile...@charter.net wrote: I also find web mail so slow. I deal with hundreds of emails per day. Yes, mostly spam, but they are so easy to deal with in a fast email client as compared to using web mail. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
POP is faster because it doesn't have to do folder sync ... it just sends whatever it's got in the inbox folder when it's polled. A lot less to do so it happens faster. db Jeff Miles wrote: I also find web mail so slow. I deal with hundreds of emails per day. Yes, mostly spam, but they are so easy to deal with in a fast email client as compared to using web mail. And this may be a stupid question. I used to be an ATT web service tech. That was almost 10 years ago. I've forgot most, but wasn't POP3 always faster then SMTP? Thankfully only for my only measly little needs I no longer care much about this stuff. But on occasion a question comes up. And if POP3 was faster, but no longer, is it due to the wide spread use of HTML in email? In deference to what it may seem due to my other past posts, I like text, but only in email. Wait, I take that back. I also like to receive a snail mail letter or card every once and awhile. Jeff M On Jul 13, 2009, at 8:19 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. I don't like how Gmail organizes everything by thread, with no option to instead organize messages by time received. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
You mean if any of the mail in the Gmail webmail inbox is part of a thread, you have to look at it in threaded style by thread and date/time and the rest of the email shows up by date/time? Don't think I would like that. I like having the option and usually pick simple date/time display. db Tony B wrote: What in the world are you talking about? Everything in my Inbox is listed by time received. But everything in my Cguys 'folder' is listed by thread *and* time received. I'm not sure what you want - a folder full of cguys postings where the posts just flow randomly as people respond, rather than threaded for easy reading? On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Jeff Wrightjswri...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like how Gmail organizes everything by thread, with no option to instead organize messages by time received. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?
I'm back and I see the thread has progressed without me. Thanks everyone for the info. Initially I was asking about moving a Tbird POP acct from a local ISP to a IMAP Gmail account and particularly if anyone knew if Gmail would accept archived mail folders from the old account and show them as Labeled emails. I see Tom answered that question ... that he read that Gmail will do this ... so that's good to know. Your comments about just using webmail made me think of another related question: As you say, Gmail will let you forward various addresses to it and I would guess that it will let you send mail from there as if from any other Gmail account that you might have. If you have forwarded three ATT.net mail accounts to it however, will it also let you send from within Gmail as any of those ATT.net addresses? That's one feature I really like about local mail clients... db Tony B wrote: I don't think this is what he was asking. I thought he wanted to know how to get all his *old* emails out of tbird on his machine and into gmail. Once you're using gmail, there's no need for this Mail Fetcher, as you should just *forward* all your other accounts to gmail. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Allen Firstenbergcg...@addventure.com wrote: Gmail can import from a POP3 mailbox: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=21288 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=21288Tony - sure, it might not be of interest except archival. But given the indexing tools you get with gmail... thats a bonus! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Good point. Creature of habit I guess... To do that ... how would one transfer email stored by a email client software to a new google web email account? Need to have the existing 1 GB email store from a non google computer based email client account uploaded somehow ... which goes back to at least part of my original question... db Tony B wrote: No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:04 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various labels first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your Labeled Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. All sorted so to speak. Does anyone know if you do it the other way around... if you have a Tbird POP account with various folders on your local machine tied to your domain name being served up by some ISP and you change the domain named server mail to be/ to forward to a Google email account, when they sync for the first time will all your Thunderbird POP folders be synced/ uploaded on to Gmail's server as Labels archived or otherwise? I suspect not because of the difference between POP and IMAP but what I am REALLY curious to know is once the connection is made and an IMAP Google acct. has been configed in Tbird, will I be able to simply drag the folders on the client machine from the POP local Tbird client folders to the local Tbird's Google IMAP account folders and then will Google server see them/ upload/ sync them and accept them as labeled perhaps archived mail? Has anyone done this before? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
