Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
> Note that our WFBs are now manufacturing false posts to further their
> evil disinformation campaign.

BWAHAHAHAHA!


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Chris Dunford
> Too bad the MFB couldn't list any facts.  You were asked...several times.
 

As you know, he has been asked repeatedly for this information. I asked him at 
least three times in the last Zune thread to provide reasons why Zune is 
"vastly inferior" and got no response beyond the
usual. This is a question that won't be answered with any logic.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
Too bad the MFB couldn't list any facts.  You were asked...several times.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM, TPiwowar  wrote:

> On Aug 15, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: TPiwowar
>>
>> I'll stick with my own bigotry, ignorance and confirmation bias.
>>
>
> Note that our WFBs are now manufacturing false posts to further their evil
> disinformation campaign.
>
> Can't prevail on the facts.
> Can't prevail on the merits.
> The days when M$ could prevail through dirty tricks are long gone.
>
> I'll stick with: "M$ is skating to where the puck was, not where it will
> be."
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 15, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:

-Original Message-
From: TPiwowar

I'll stick with my own bigotry, ignorance and confirmation bias.


Note that our WFBs are now manufacturing false posts to further their  
evil disinformation campaign.


Can't prevail on the facts.
Can't prevail on the merits.
The days when M$ could prevail through dirty tricks are long gone.

I'll stick with: "M$ is skating to where the puck was, not where it  
will be."





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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
> > Where is the zune HD behind on the touch?
> 
> Well, there's:
> 
> Screen size

(Zune HD) vs. (iPod Touch)

3.3" vs. 3.5" Will you really notice?

> advertised battery life

Music: 33 hours vs. 36 hours
Video: 8.5 hours vs. 6 hours

The OLED tech comes through here.

> Bluetooth

No word either way on Zune.  Assume not.

> apps (by about 64,000 or so)

No contest.  Touch wins.


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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread db

Try this  one too ... it's a good complement to WinDirStat.
It uses pie charts which are easier to work with.  I use it mainly and 
sometime use WinDirStat

db

JDiskReport (Win / Mac)
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html


mike wrote:

WINDIRSTAT!  that's it!

Thanks.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jeff Wright  wrote:

  

Treesize Pro or WinDirStat.



-Original Message-
I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of
  

the


other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.
  

This


after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.

There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.
  

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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread David K Watson

From:mike 

Where is the zune HD behind on the touch?


Well, there's:

Screen size
advertised battery life
bluetooth
apps (by about 64,000 or so)

and of course, availability

Because of that last one, the jury is still out on things like actual
usability issues, reliability, and app pricing.

The upcoming Zune HD's processor and screen technology are
ahead of the current generation of iPods and those things are cool,
but a lot depends on what is done with them.  In Korea, Samsung is
advertising a device with the same processor and screen as the Zune
HD, but no one believes it is going to kill the iPod (though one  
reporter

jokingly asked if it was a Zune HD-killer), because Samsung gets so
much else wrong.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
> -Original Message-
> From: TPiwowar
>
> I'll stick with my own bigotry, ignorance and confirmation bias.

FTFY

Mac zealots.  The best free advertising Microsoft can have.


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 15, 2009, at 3:33 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
Perhaps--depends on how sensitive these dots are. What if the shock  
detector [sudden motion sensor] in your MacBook Pro gets set off  
when you drop your laptop bag after 6 months but your MBP keeps  
working, and the sensor records the incident?  Then after 18 months  
the HD fails. Apple opens it up and says "nope, this was shocked."  
You try, to no avail, explaining that it worked for a whole year  
after the shock so the shock couldn't be to blame for the HD  
failure. Today you can turn that feature on or off, but will that  
choice be there in the future?


I think you will be able to appeal your automated termination to a  
death panel.


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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread rleesimon
Dunno what he wants...

Maybe  http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptslack.asp

Or what??

-Original Message-
From: phartz...@gmail.com [mailto:phartz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: disk tool..can't recall the name

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, mike wrote:

> I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of
the
> other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.
 This
> after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.
>
> There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
> space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.

  When asking such questions, it is always helpful to inform readers
what OS you are needing such a tool for.  Almost invariably, when OS
info is not provided, it turns out to be a Windows user because they
seem to forget that not everyone uses Windows.  That being the case,
and since it is therefore virtually certian that you are needing a
utility for a Windows machine, i cannot be of any help.  Can someone
please help this Windows user?

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread mike
It deosn't depend...these dots have been on your cell phones for *years*.
We already know how they work and behave.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM, b_s-wilk  wrote:

> There are no reports that these dots activate in humid weather, or at least
>> that there is any inherent problem with that.
>>
>
> Perhaps--depends on how sensitive these dots are. What if the shock
> detector [sudden motion sensor] in your MacBook Pro gets set off when you
> drop your laptop bag after 6 months but your MBP keeps working, and the
> sensor records the incident?  Then after 18 months the HD fails. Apple opens
> it up and says "nope, this was shocked." You try, to no avail, explaining
> that it worked for a whole year after the shock so the shock couldn't be to
> blame for the HD failure. Today you can turn that feature on or off, but
> will that choice be there in the future?
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread b_s-wilk

There are no reports that these dots activate in humid weather, or at least
that there is any inherent problem with that.


Perhaps--depends on how sensitive these dots are. What if the shock 
detector [sudden motion sensor] in your MacBook Pro gets set off when 
you drop your laptop bag after 6 months but your MBP keeps working, and 
the sensor records the incident?  Then after 18 months the HD fails. 
Apple opens it up and says "nope, this was shocked." You try, to no 
avail, explaining that it worked for a whole year after the shock so the 
shock couldn't be to blame for the HD failure. Today you can turn that 
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM, mike wrote:

> The zune offers 720 out...meaning you can hook it to a 65" widescreen and
> get 720p out.

  I understand.  I was thinking of watching video at such a resolution
on a tiny screen.  Thanks.

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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar
I'll stick with: "M$ is skating to where the puck was, not where it  
will be."



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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread Tony B
Actually, I prefer Treesize (free). But I admit I use both.


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM, mike wrote:
> WINDIRSTAT!  that's it!
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jeff Wright  wrote:
>
>> Treesize Pro or WinDirStat.
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of
>> the
>> > other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.
>> This
>> > after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.
>> >
>> > There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
>> > space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.
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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread mike
WINDIRSTAT!  that's it!

Thanks.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jeff Wright  wrote:

> Treesize Pro or WinDirStat.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of
> the
> > other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.
> This
> > after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.
> >
> > There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
> > space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
The zune offers 720 out...meaning you can hook it to a 65" widescreen and
get 720p out.  Appletv is only 720p right now, they offer no 1080p support
on anything apple.  Kinda strange for a platform that is targeted for media.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com
wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM, mike wrote:
>
> > On a related note, is Apple *any* closer to offering 1080p content?  I
> > figured since the format wars are over, we'd finally see apple release
> some
> > HD hardware.
>
>   What is the value in having a 1080p image on a screen of such a tiny
> size?  Even 720 for that matter?  Just curious.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread Henry Bruhl
WinDirStat
http://download.cnet.com/WinDirStat/3000-2248_4-10614592.html?tag=list

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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
> I know I'm nitpicking...

That's all that really needed to be said.


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM, mike wrote:

> On a related note, is Apple *any* closer to offering 1080p content?  I
> figured since the format wars are over, we'd finally see apple release some
> HD hardware.

  What is the value in having a 1080p image on a screen of such a tiny
size?  Even 720 for that matter?  Just curious.

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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
Treesize Pro or WinDirStat.

> -Original Message-
> I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of
the
> other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.
This
> after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.
> 
> There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
> space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.


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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread mike
Too true.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM, phartz...@gmail.com
wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, mike wrote:
>
> > I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of
> the
> > other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.
>  This
> > after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.
> >
> > There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
> > space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.
>
>   When asking such questions, it is always helpful to inform readers
> what OS you are needing such a tool for.  Almost invariably, when OS
> info is not provided, it turns out to be a Windows user because they
> seem to forget that not everyone uses Windows.  That being the case,
> and since it is therefore virtually certian that you are needing a
> utility for a Windows machine, i cannot be of any help.  Can someone
> please help this Windows user?
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
> So first you want to compare it to the first gen ipod touch that are
> refurb...now you want to compare them to unreleased ipod touches...

Those goal posts aren't going to move themselves, you know!


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Wright
> A thought. They hope to win market share by undercutting Apple's
> current price, but are introducing a model that is technically
> several years behind Apple's current models.

[citation needed]

Notice how my post said nothing at all about iPod's, it simply extolled how
nice the Zune HD was, yet Herr Doctor managed to find a way to Pelosi up the
thread.  When you have nothing showing in your hand, don't forget the
slander.


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Re: [CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, mike wrote:

> I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of the
> other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.  This
> after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.
>
> There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
> space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.

  When asking such questions, it is always helpful to inform readers
what OS you are needing such a tool for.  Almost invariably, when OS
info is not provided, it turns out to be a Windows user because they
seem to forget that not everyone uses Windows.  That being the case,
and since it is therefore virtually certian that you are needing a
utility for a Windows machine, i cannot be of any help.  Can someone
please help this Windows user?

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
I'll take that as you haven't looked at an specs or reviews of the product.
Shocking.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:09 AM, TPiwowar  wrote:

> On Aug 15, 2009, at 1:40 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> Where is the zune HD behind on the touch?
>>
>
> One of the commentators hit the nail squarely on the head...
>
> "M$ is skating to where the puck was, not where it will be."
>
> Bravo!
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Re: [CGUYS] External keyboard for notebook computer

2009-08-15 Thread rleesimon
This.
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-Space-Saver-II-Keyboard-RT3200-Black-Item-120_W0QQit
emZ110424534478QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item19b5d0adce&_t
rksid=p3286.c0.m14  .I use it .has feet in the back that fold out to keep it
a comfortable angle .would sit on top of any laptop (except if a 12" screen
which is 2small) and stay up to allow heat to dissipate too .very nice .has
embedded numeric keypad and has second ps2 port under it so you can hook up
a ps2 mouse if you want .is ps2 so if your laptop doesn't have that, get an
adapter (I have one) for usb/ps2 which works perfectly!!  Full size keys are
great...good feel...has windows key and menu key ...I love it as it requires
no reaching for all keys...

-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: External keyboard for notebook computer

Partial solution.  But unless one has a woodworking shop to make the blocks
an exact size, a couple of pieces of 2x4 are big and bulky and take up real
estate and large for the baggage to be carried.

At 09:42 PM 8/14/2009, TPiwowar wrote:
>On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:14 PM, katan wrote:
>>Would a couple of blocks on either side of the laptop do you?  
>>Something
>>high enough to get the external keyboard over the built-in keyboard?
>
>Clearly a solution that begs for liberal use of duct tape.


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread mike
There are no reports that these dots activate in humid weather, or at least
that there is any inherent problem with that.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, b_s-wilk  wrote:

> Your cell phone already has the water detector..works find in humidity.
>>
>
> Cavan's cell phone didn't work after he dropped it into a Big Gulp. His
> iPod didn't work after he dropped it into water. Those kinds of mishaps
> cause the malfunctions that people try to get fixed or replaced under
> warranty.
>
> A water detector that indicates a device was wet could be faulty in humid
> weather, even though your phone or music player work OK. When they break due
> to defects, the water detector could keep you from getting service if it's
> affected by humidity rather than submersion.
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
So first you want to compare it to the first gen ipod touch that are
refurb...now you want to compare them to unreleased ipod touches...

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, TPiwowar  wrote:

> On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
>>
>>> Wow.
>>>
>>
> "The Zune HD prices look good compared to today's iPod Touches, but not so
> much compared to the new camera-equipped ones Apple is set to announce next
> month (16/32/64 GB for $199/299/399). Same price, double the size, and
> photos. Not bad at all."
> http://gizmodo.com/5336919/new-ipod-touch-sizes-claims-daring-daring-
> fireball
>
> Better buy that Zune the day it becomes available, because you won't be
> interested in buying it for many days after.
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:

Wow.


"The Zune HD prices look good compared to today's iPod Touches, but  
not so much compared to the new camera-equipped ones Apple is set to  
announce next month (16/32/64 GB for $199/299/399). Same price,  
double the size, and photos. Not bad at all."
http://gizmodo.com/5336919/new-ipod-touch-sizes-claims-daring-daring- 
fireball


Better buy that Zune the day it becomes available, because you won't  
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 15, 2009, at 1:40 PM, mike wrote:

Where is the zune HD behind on the touch?


One of the commentators hit the nail squarely on the head...

"M$ is skating to where the puck was, not where it will be."

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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:

Wow.


http://rantsandstuff.com/2009/06/01/nitpicking-the-zune-hd/
"It’s the little things like this that make me wonder what else did  
they not pay that much attention to? They couldn’t have dropped the  
menu font just a tad to make it fit on the screen? I know I’m  
nitpicking but shouldn’t someone at Microsoft also be nitpicking this  
kind of thing?"


But isn't that the usual problem with M$ products? They copy the  
competition, but do so in a slovenly way. They don't sweat the  
details. Using the product is never a happy experience.


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread b_s-wilk

Your cell phone already has the water detector..works find in humidity.


Cavan's cell phone didn't work after he dropped it into a Big Gulp. His 
iPod didn't work after he dropped it into water. Those kinds of mishaps 
cause the malfunctions that people try to get fixed or replaced under 
warranty.


A water detector that indicates a device was wet could be faulty in 
humid weather, even though your phone or music player work OK. When they 
break due to defects, the water detector could keep you from getting 
service if it's affected by humidity rather than submersion.



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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
Where is the zune HD behind on the touch?

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:30 AM, TPiwowar  wrote:

> On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
>
>> Pretty friggin awesome.  Very zippy.  Very smooth.
>>
>
> A thought. They hope to win market share by undercutting Apple's current
> price, but are introducing a model that is technically several years behind
> Apple's current models. Taking that into consideration should we not be
> comparing the Zune HD to models Apple is listing on its refurb pages? That
> would pretty much eliminate any cost difference.
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread mike
And your wife's has that much cleaner interface?  Does 720p out?  Does HD
radio?

On a related note, is Apple *any* closer to offering 1080p content?  I
figured since the format wars are over, we'd finally see apple release some
HD hardware.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, TPiwowar  wrote:

> On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
>
>> Wow.
>>
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> Hooks up to the TV, just like my wife's 3-year old iPod. Wow indeed.
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:

Pretty friggin awesome.  Very zippy.  Very smooth.


A thought. They hope to win market share by undercutting Apple's  
current price, but are introducing a model that is technically  
several years behind Apple's current models. Taking that into  
consideration should we not be comparing the Zune HD to models Apple  
is listing on its refurb pages? That would pretty much eliminate any  
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Re: [CGUYS] Zune HD TV Interface Makes It a Media Center For Your Pocket

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:

Wow.


Hooks up to the TV, just like my wife's 3-year old iPod. Wow indeed.




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Re: [CGUYS] External keyboard for notebook computer

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
I'm looking for an external keyboard, for a notebook computer, that  
would sit on top of the notebook computer's keyboard, instead of  
"in front of" the notebook computer.  The keyboard might have  
"pedestals" on each end to support it over the notebook body,  
instead of having it rest on the notebook keyboard.



Think different...

lazymonster's grundtal laptop stand
This looks precarious but lazymonster has tested it for months and  
says it has served its purpose well besides displaying the laptop  
like a piece of art. It's put together from an old ikea grundtal  
paper towel holder (can't find the link on ikea website) and some  
plexiglass sheet. and is made to be used with a tablet and keyboard,  
so he doesn't really "touch" the laptop. So, no, you can't type away  
merrily on this.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lazymonster/sets/72157600216024220/


A better laptop stand for bed
http://www.instructables.com/id/A-better-laptop-stand-for-bed/


MATIAS iRizer Laptop Stand
http://hurbania.com/clickseguro/product_info.php?products_id=4762? 
osCsid=mrdtacp4lfj30i37n6e4fal791





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[CGUYS] disk tool..can't recall the name

2009-08-15 Thread mike
I've got two drives, identical hardware, one is a direct copy/backup of the
other.  The internal one shows 20 gigs less then the external backup.  This
after running the sync, running defrag and error checking the the drives.

There is a disk tool that is free that shows who/what/when/where your HD
space has gone and I can't recall the name for anything.

Anyone?  TIA.


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Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 13 Aug 2009 to 14 Aug 2009 (#2009-775)

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Bill Wajert wrote:
Not really, as all of her games were gotton by downloading the free  
game of the day. This means that as long as you are willing
to put up with a few ads while playing you can play these games  
forever, but you onlyhave that one day to download.


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[CGUYS] Getting Wireless Networks Up to Speed

2009-08-15 Thread TPiwowar

Nice informative article in the NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/technology/personaltech/13basics.html


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread mike
Your cell phone already has the water detector..works find in humidity.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:52 AM, b_s-wilk  wrote:

> > Apple cooks up a scheme so creepy that it would give me second thoughts
>>> > about buying one of their products. A built-in system of sensors to
>>> monitor
>>> > and log "customer abuse" which apparently includes jailbreaking your
>>> iphone
>>> > that has the ability to shut down the product and void the warranty.
>>> This is
>>> > far creepier than Windows genuine advantage.
>>>
>>
>>  I have long lamented the fact that Apple decided to hitch its cart
>> to phones, music sales and music players.  The one and only affinity I
>> have for Apple is with their desktop and portable computers and I wish
>> their primary focus had remained there.  I fully realize that the
>> iPhone and the iPod made mega-bucks for Apple, but that fact is likely
>> at the root of the problem as described in the article.
>>
>>
> How many people brought Apple products to be repaired under warranty
> that were broken due to user abuse rather than product defects? Plenty
> of them--enough to create this rumor. The warranty covers defects, not
> abuse.
>
> However the "water detector" designed in northern California, where it's
> usually dry, won't work in Maryland or any place on the East or Gulf
> coasts where humidity is very high. High humidity could cause the
> detector to register as wet when it's the air that's saturated, rather
> than the device having been wet or submerged.
>
> Apple will probably develop a device to make up for humidity, if they do
> anything at all. It's a rumor.
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread b_s-wilk

> Apple cooks up a scheme so creepy that it would give me second thoughts
> about buying one of their products. A built-in system of sensors to monitor
> and log "customer abuse" which apparently includes jailbreaking your iphone
> that has the ability to shut down the product and void the warranty. This is
> far creepier than Windows genuine advantage.


  I have long lamented the fact that Apple decided to hitch its cart
to phones, music sales and music players.  The one and only affinity I
have for Apple is with their desktop and portable computers and I wish
their primary focus had remained there.  I fully realize that the
iPhone and the iPod made mega-bucks for Apple, but that fact is likely
at the root of the problem as described in the article.



How many people brought Apple products to be repaired under warranty
that were broken due to user abuse rather than product defects? Plenty
of them--enough to create this rumor. The warranty covers defects, not
abuse.

However the "water detector" designed in northern California, where it's
usually dry, won't work in Maryland or any place on the East or Gulf
coasts where humidity is very high. High humidity could cause the
detector to register as wet when it's the air that's saturated, rather
than the device having been wet or submerged.

Apple will probably develop a device to make up for humidity, if they do
anything at all. It's a rumor.


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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Offers to Pay "Buckets" for Zune Apps

2009-08-15 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:13 AM, mike  wrote:

> How?
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:38 PM, db  wrote:
>
> > Now Apple has MS over a barrel.
>

As far as I can tell just as part of containerized pun fest.

Why does M$ pay in buckets in stead of money?
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread mike
So these things should have been popping up in other devices unless Steve
jumped up in class with his hand raised telling the big O he'd be first to
implement the new tech.

If this story pans out, I don't think there is proof yet, I'm sure it will
be just apple being apple.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:35 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:33 PM, TPiwowar wrote:
>
> > Apple cooks up a scheme so creepy that it would give me second thoughts
> > about buying one of their products. A built-in system of sensors to
> monitor
> > and log "customer abuse" which apparently includes jailbreaking your
> iphone
> > that has the ability to shut down the product and void the warranty.
>
>   Perhaps the roots of such a policy can be traced back to certain
> regulations perpetrated by the United States government.  To wit, the
> numerous consumer products, many of them simply common household
> items, that contain the following warning: "It is a violation of
> federal law to use this product in a manner that is inconsistent with
> its labeling."
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Re: [CGUYS] External keyboard for notebook computer

2009-08-15 Thread mike
Well...why not take a day or two and learn to touch type on the laptop?  You
are already 90% there.  Once you are trained on one keyboard the others come
easily.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Fred Holmes  wrote:

> I can touch-type on a real keyboard.  I can't touch-type on a notebook
> keyboard.  And for when I must hunt-and-peck, I know exactly where the key
> is on a real keyboard; I have to eyeball search for it on a notebook
> keyboard.  Using the real keyboard in front of the notebook takes up real
> estate that I would rather use for other purposes.  Or just not have to
> clear as much space on a messy tabletop.
>
> Some of the "variable position" keys on my notebook are differently located
> than on my standard keyboard.
>
> Have keyboard manufacturers yet standardized on the location of the
> backslash key?
>
> Fred Holmes
>
> At 10:44 PM 8/14/2009, b_s-wilk wrote:
> >What's missing from the keyboard other than a numbers pad--and comfort? Is
> the keyboard just annoying as it is? Do you also want to use an external
> mouse?
> >
> >You can get a separate numbers keypad that plugs into USB. Or you can
> raise the notebook closer to eye level and put a keyboard underneath it on
> your desk. I'm assuming this is for your desk, not to be used on your lap.
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Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 13 Aug 2009 to 14 Aug 2009 (#2009-775)

2009-08-15 Thread Bill Wajert

COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote:



Subject:
Re: Backup for Windows Laptop
From:
Tony B 
Date:
Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:49:34 -0400


Like many online software sources these days, Gamehouse games don't
really need to be backed up. You can always just re-download them.


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bill Wajert wrote:
  

Can someone suggest a good backup software, or hardware solution for my
wife's labtop. It runs XP Pro, is her school supplied computer, but
she really wants to preserve all her "games" that she has downloaded and
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Not really, as all of her games were gotton by downloading the free game 
of the day. This means that as long as you are willing
to put up with a few ads while playing you can play these games forever, 
but you onlyhave that one day to download.

Also I plan on using an external harddrive as the backup medium.


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Getting Really Creepy

2009-08-15 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:33 PM, TPiwowar wrote:

> Apple cooks up a scheme so creepy that it would give me second thoughts
> about buying one of their products. A built-in system of sensors to monitor
> and log "customer abuse" which apparently includes jailbreaking your iphone
> that has the ability to shut down the product and void the warranty.

  Perhaps the roots of such a policy can be traced back to certain
regulations perpetrated by the United States government.  To wit, the
numerous consumer products, many of them simply common household
items, that contain the following warning: "It is a violation of
federal law to use this product in a manner that is inconsistent with
its labeling."

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Re: [CGUYS] External keyboard for notebook computer

2009-08-15 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting Fred Holmes :

Partial solution.  But unless one has a woodworking shop to make the  
 blocks an exact size, a couple of pieces of 2x4 are big and bulky   
and take up real estate and large for the baggage to be carried.


There's an app for that. (-:


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Re: [CGUYS] External keyboard for notebook computer

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Sloane
Even if you find something like that (or make it with a couple of pieces 
of "5/4" wood strip, I don't think you would be very happy with a 
keyboard being up in the air like that - it would be quite 
awkward/uncomfortable to use for more than a few minutes. When I use my 
laptop at home with an external keyboard, I leave it closed and just 
hook up an external monitor of some kind.


Mike

Fred Holmes wrote:

I'm looking for an external keyboard, for a notebook computer, that
would sit on top of the notebook computer's keyboard, instead of "in
front of" the notebook computer.  The keyboard might have "pedestals"
on each end to support it over the notebook body, instead of having
it rest on the notebook keyboard.

Anyone seen such a beast, or a better solution?

When a "standard" keyboard is placed "in front of" a notebook
computer, the display is moved too far away for my liking, and also
too much [physical] desk top real estate is occupied.

Thanks,

Fred Holmes



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Re: [CGUYS] External keyboard for notebook computer

2009-08-15 Thread Jeff Miles
	How about building 4 legs out of wine bottle corks and velcro pads?  
The velcro would allow for them to be removed from the keyboard when  
no in use.


Jeff M


On Aug 15, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Fred Holmes wrote:

I can touch-type on a real keyboard.  I can't touch-type on a  
notebook keyboard.  And for when I must hunt-and-peck, I know  
exactly where the key is on a real keyboard; I have to eyeball  
search for it on a notebook keyboard.  Using the real keyboard in  
front of the notebook takes up real estate that I would rather use  
for other purposes.  Or just not have to clear as much space on a  
messy tabletop.


Some of the "variable position" keys on my notebook are differently  
located than on my standard keyboard.


Have keyboard manufacturers yet standardized on the location of the  
backslash key?


Fred Holmes

At 10:44 PM 8/14/2009, b_s-wilk wrote:
What's missing from the keyboard other than a numbers pad--and  
comfort? Is the keyboard just annoying as it is? Do you also want  
to use an external mouse?


You can get a separate numbers keypad that plugs into USB. Or you  
can raise the notebook closer to eye level and put a keyboard  
underneath it on your desk. I'm assuming this is for your desk, not  
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Re: [CGUYS] External keyboard for notebook computer

2009-08-15 Thread Fred Holmes
I can touch-type on a real keyboard.  I can't touch-type on a notebook 
keyboard.  And for when I must hunt-and-peck, I know exactly where the key is 
on a real keyboard; I have to eyeball search for it on a notebook keyboard.  
Using the real keyboard in front of the notebook takes up real estate that I 
would rather use for other purposes.  Or just not have to clear as much space 
on a messy tabletop.

Some of the "variable position" keys on my notebook are differently located 
than on my standard keyboard.

Have keyboard manufacturers yet standardized on the location of the backslash 
key?

Fred Holmes

At 10:44 PM 8/14/2009, b_s-wilk wrote:
>What's missing from the keyboard other than a numbers pad--and comfort? Is the 
>keyboard just annoying as it is? Do you also want to use an external mouse?
>
>You can get a separate numbers keypad that plugs into USB. Or you can raise 
>the notebook closer to eye level and put a keyboard underneath it on your 
>desk. I'm assuming this is for your desk, not to be used on your lap.


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Re: [CGUYS] External keyboard for notebook computer

2009-08-15 Thread Fred Holmes
Partial solution.  But unless one has a woodworking shop to make the blocks an 
exact size, a couple of pieces of 2x4 are big and bulky and take up real estate 
and large for the baggage to be carried.

At 09:42 PM 8/14/2009, TPiwowar wrote:
>On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:14 PM, katan wrote:
>>Would a couple of blocks on either side of the laptop do you?  
>>Something
>>high enough to get the external keyboard over the built-in keyboard?
>
>Clearly a solution that begs for liberal use of duct tape.


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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Offers to Pay "Buckets" for Zune Apps

2009-08-15 Thread mike
How?

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:38 PM, db  wrote:

> Now Apple has MS over a barrel.
>
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