Re: [CGUYS] Variable Weight Typefaces?

2009-09-05 Thread mike
Not ignoring what you write yourself would be just fine.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Mike wrote:

 As I said I was going by what you wrote...I should know better if I want
 clarity.


 Oh yes, we have that reading proficiency problem. I will endeavor to use
 simpler words.



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Re: [CGUYS] Clueful Review of World's Greatest OS

2009-09-05 Thread Chris Dunford
 John Siracusa has been writing knowledgably for Ars technica for some
 years now.  Ars technica writes about many technical and gaming topics,
 including Apple, Microsoft, IBM, etc.
 
 Mike, your question shows either a lame attempt at baiting Tom, or more
 than a little ignorance.

Mike can certainly speak for himself, but I read this as irony. TP's assumption 
is that any positive review of any MS product was written by an MS shill. 
Turnabout's fair play.


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[CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread chrper...@aol.com
I am very unhappy with my current webhost. They have no phone access  
when problems arise, and lately they've been causing problems with  
mail list access and web host issues as well.


I know this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find the  
archived posts. I would like a local host if possible, but I  
definitely am interested in dealing with a Mac friendly host, and one  
with phone help available, at least during business hours.


TIA

Mical Wimoth Carton
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Re: [CGUYS] Not every cloud has a silver lining

2009-09-05 Thread Art Clemons
 I used to do all my computing at a data center, 40 years ago. I remember 
 being liberated. I don't want to go back to those days.


The only thing worse than being at a data center was having a single
terminal quite some distance away from a data center and discovering
that your phone line was defective.  For some reason, I just can't get
excited over using a cloud based word-processor or its equivalent for
common computing tasks, meaning of course I have little to no love for
turning computers back into the equivalent of dumb terminals.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread TPiwowar

On Sep 5, 2009, at 9:42 AM Sep 5, chrper...@aol.com wrote:
I am very unhappy with my current webhost. They have no phone  
access when problems arise, and lately they've been causing  
problems with mail list access and web host issues as well.


To be fair you need to tell us the host you find so terrible. Hosts  
who provide bad service will get away with it if you don't share your  
displeasure.


I know this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find the  
archived posts. I would like a local host if possible, but I  
definitely am interested in dealing with a Mac friendly host, and  
one with phone help available, at least during business hours.


These days I find that the typical good hosting service is  
sufficiently Mac friendly that I don't need to look for any special  
Mac attention. If the service runs on Apache servers you can expect  
both Macs and PCs to be handled about equally. After all the Web  
belongs to Unix, not M$. So just avoid clueless hosting services that  
litter their home pages with M$ trademarks.


I'm doing very well with a big hosting company: 1and1.com.  They are  
international so their call centers span the globe. That means I can  
get help 24/7/365. In most cases the service from the distant call  
centers is just fine and when I call it is not to ask easy questions.  
Calls usually get answered by a human tech after just a few rings.  
The first person you speak to will be a tech and not a level-1 type  
who just does triage. The first person you speak to will probably be  
the last person you speak to. The basic service is priced low and is  
completely adequate. Their control panel lets me manage my accounts  
very easily. They have extensive online help. They offer lots of  
extra services as part of the basic package. While they also offer M$- 
based services to appeal to the ignorant masses, their Unix-based  
services are M$ free. Their help files treat M$ and Apple OSs  
evenhandedly.







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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread chad evans wyatt
Not sure where you are, here in the DC area, Heller Information Services is 
responsive, consistent, reliable.  http://info.his.com/



--- On Sat, 9/5/09, chrper...@aol.com chrper...@aol.com wrote:

From: chrper...@aol.com chrper...@aol.com
Subject: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 9:42 AM

I am very unhappy with my current webhost. They have no phone access when 
problems arise, and lately they've been causing problems with mail list access 
and web host issues as well.

I know this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find the archived 
posts. I would like a local host if possible, but I definitely am interested in 
dealing with a Mac friendly host, and one with phone help available, at least 
during business hours.

TIA

Mical Wimoth Carton
chrper...@aol.com


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread TPiwowar

On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:22 AM Sep 5, chad evans wyatt wrote:
Not sure where you are, here in the DC area, Heller Information  
Services is responsive, consistent, reliable.  http://info.his.com/


Not what it once was. They seem to have outsourced their support. I  
get too many I don't knows and we'll call you backs from them  
these days. The techs are clearly not local, but not from India  
either. Questions sent via email get ignored.





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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread Tony B
Tech support is always handled these days via outsourcing. There's
nothing wrong with that; they're very competent people. But it means
filing a trouble ticket, not calling on the phone.

Now, when the site goes down due to suspension, not at all uncommon
these days, it's nice to be able to get a higher up on the phone to
get the site back online quickly. I interact with mine on their forums
and had our site back up within 10 minutes of them getting into work.

Speaking of which, have you discussed these issues at your host's
forum? Any response?


On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:42 AM, chrper...@aol.comchrper...@aol.com wrote:
 I am very unhappy with my current webhost. They have no phone access when
 problems arise, and lately they've been causing problems with mail list
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread TPiwowar
I'm currently troubleshooting email non-delivery for a client. One of  
their important vendors can't send them email reliably. I found the  
vendor's host's email server blacklisted by backscatter.org. Vendor  
reports spending hours on the phone with GoDaddy with no resolution.


Before selecting a host I would check out their mail servers at  
http://www.dnsbl.info/ to see if they run a sloppy shop. This site  
will chack an IP against a long list of blacklists.


Do folks know any other good ways to check out a host?


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Re: [CGUYS] Guys and GPS

2009-09-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

what happens at home stays at home.

Stewart


At 11:29 AM 9/5/2009, you wrote:

What else have you done when half schnockker'd, rev?

-Original Message-
From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Guys and GPS

I used to make delivers in a van from the main PO here to a credit
processing center around 12-2am.  I had nights when staying awake was very
hard and other nights when I was fine.  A couple of times when I wasn't
tired I found myself 6 or 7 miles from the last turn off without having any
memory of passing the half a dozen off ramps between.  Zero memory.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 There are some days when I get to the office or to somewhere I was going
to
 travel that I simply cannot remember the trip!

 It is semi automatic driving.

 We are all guilty of it.

 Cruel joke but at least he listened to the directions!  :-)

 Last year I was going to a Kiwanis club convention in state and I drove
 with a few other members.  I had my GPS up as I was going to an area I was
 not familiar with.

 It was hilarious to hear one of the members argue with the GPS every now
 and then as we drove. If I had not driven with him before I would not have
 been amused, but he has a Chrysler Van that has it built in and he does it
 with that all the time.

 I will be honest I use them usually on long trips so when I get off the
 interstate at an interchange I am not familiar with it gets me back on
 without getting lost.  (It has been known to happen!)

 Stewart



 At 11:24 AM 9/4/2009, you wrote:

  Someone (not me) came to work very tired last Monday morning. They
 had made a long trip. Halfway back to home someone had fiddled with
 the GPS and the infernal machine started giving them directions back
 to where they had started the day. They dutifully followed directions.


 Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
 mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
 Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
 Ozark, AL  SL 82



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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread rleesimon
Hey ...leave Tom alone ...he got 'nuf cra'frum apr to last him...

-Original Message-
From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Intensive Care Unit...

Do you cover your eyes and ears when you say that?

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote:

 katan wrote:

 On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:50:30 -0400, t.piwowar wrote:



 America has its Dick Cheney. CGUYS has Chris Dunford.



 Ever notice how The List can have a pleasant conversation, or even a
 lively debate. . .until Tom joins in?


 No.



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Re: [CGUYS] Guys and GPS

2009-09-05 Thread rleesimon
What else have you done when half schnockker'd, rev?

-Original Message-
From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Guys and GPS

I used to make delivers in a van from the main PO here to a credit
processing center around 12-2am.  I had nights when staying awake was very
hard and other nights when I was fine.  A couple of times when I wasn't
tired I found myself 6 or 7 miles from the last turn off without having any
memory of passing the half a dozen off ramps between.  Zero memory.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 There are some days when I get to the office or to somewhere I was going
to
 travel that I simply cannot remember the trip!

 It is semi automatic driving.

 We are all guilty of it.

 Cruel joke but at least he listened to the directions!  :-)

 Last year I was going to a Kiwanis club convention in state and I drove
 with a few other members.  I had my GPS up as I was going to an area I was
 not familiar with.

 It was hilarious to hear one of the members argue with the GPS every now
 and then as we drove. If I had not driven with him before I would not have
 been amused, but he has a Chrysler Van that has it built in and he does it
 with that all the time.

 I will be honest I use them usually on long trips so when I get off the
 interstate at an interchange I am not familiar with it gets me back on
 without getting lost.  (It has been known to happen!)

 Stewart



 At 11:24 AM 9/4/2009, you wrote:

  Someone (not me) came to work very tired last Monday morning. They
 had made a long trip. Halfway back to home someone had fiddled with
 the GPS and the infernal machine started giving them directions back
 to where they had started the day. They dutifully followed directions.


 Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
 mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
 Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread Tony B
Good point. Mail issues are often not your host's fault at all.
Rather, some overactive spam filter somewhere. We've been banned from
AOL longer than we've been allowed.

First I try to select a host near my client base. No point in starting
out with a 250ms ping to the server. Next I would log into their
support forum and check the types of problems being discussed. See if
staff is readily available or are trying to hide. Are they updating
things regularly?


On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM, TPiwowart...@tjpa.com wrote:
 I'm currently troubleshooting email non-delivery for a client. One of their
 important vendors can't send them email reliably. I found the vendor's
 host's email server blacklisted by backscatter.org. Vendor reports spending
 hours on the phone with GoDaddy with no resolution.

 Before selecting a host I would check out their mail servers at
 http://www.dnsbl.info/ to see if they run a sloppy shop. This site will
 chack an IP against a long list of blacklists.

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Re: [CGUYS] Guys and GPS

2009-09-05 Thread rleesimon
Used a nuvi 210 or 270 or something like that free with rental car in
Belgium ...when road had sharp curve, thing would tell me to turn left or
turn right leading to screeching brakes and almost rear-enders ...didn't
say street names ...crap!  I have an off brand VideoSeven v7Nav-730 and
bought the pricey western European maps for it ...says street names and has
lots of adjustable features ...when I try it I will report ...seems it uses
iGo software proprietary and has traffic (I didn't pay for that) and warns
for speeding and has lots of night modes to keep the vision unencumbered
...looks gud2me so far with usa map set which has free online upgrades
...only thing is no longer sold which may mean it's no good or may mean it's
good and makers are not good at keeping their hands outa the till ...we'll
see!!

-Original Message-
From: Eric S. Sande [mailto:esa...@erols.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Guys and GPS

Ask just about any woman.

Heh.  I'll take the map and the compass every time.  I'm not in
any sort of a competition, and I do have a handheld GPS device,
although I rarely carry it on my bicycle.

I must say I've gotten a lot of unintelligible and just plain wrong
directions, some even bizarre, on occasion.  But my GPS does
not talk, it's the kind that says, You Are Here.

A friend of mine was on his way to Tierra del Fuego from Fairfax
County, VA.  On a motorcycle with a GPS.  He got lost in the
Atacama Desert, which isn't exactly good.  He said later, I knew
exactly where I was, but I didn't know which way to go.

Hence the map and compass.  My GPS does have a mapping
function, which is as accurate as its map is.  Which is pretty
accurate, for CONUS.  But I don't trust it implicitly, all maps contain
errrors.  Google maps are good, but not realtime.

But a basic knowledge of astronomy, an accurate timepiece and
a compass are all that is really required for navigation.  Maps are nice,
GPS is nice.  But these are just in the nice things to have category.

As far as the relationship issues are concerned, it is important to
value input into the process.  What we are trying to do here is get
someplace.  Women tend, I think, to value cooperation more than
men.  They value collaborative solutions, and that is good.  A
consensus value is more important than an absolute.

Men want certainty,  regardless of the consensus.  If the consensus
is perceived as wrong, and a certainty is available, a man will take
it (it may be wrong too, but it's a basis for action).  That I think may
be why men are perceived by women as reluctant to ask for
directions.

And why they value a thing like GPS, because it depends on a
certainty, position, but not a context, a map.  The only problem is
the reliability of the map, which some appear to take for granted
but which cannot be assumed.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread TPiwowar

On Sep 5, 2009, at 12:32 PM Sep 5, Tony B wrote:

Good point. Mail issues are often not your host's fault at all.
Rather, some overactive spam filter somewhere. We've been banned from
AOL longer than we've been allowed.


My meaning was completely the opposite. Badly-run email servers are  
the responsibility of the hosting service. When the hosting service  
does not do their jobs right they facilitate spammers.


It is not hard to stay on AOL's good side. AOL has lots of online  
material and tools to facilitate being a good emailer. If you are the  
server admin you can even sign up to have AOL forward all emails it  
bounces to you. AOL works hard to keep spam under control and to play  
well with others. If you are banned from AOL I would take a long hard  
look at your hosting service.


Consider how long this list has been in existence and how many times  
you have seen spam here. AOL has done a great job. It is the  
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread covici
TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 I'm currently troubleshooting email non-delivery for a client. One of
 their important vendors can't send them email reliably. I found the
 vendor's host's email server blacklisted by backscatter.org. Vendor
 reports spending hours on the phone with GoDaddy with no resolution.
 
 Before selecting a host I would check out their mail servers at
 http://www.dnsbl.info/ to see if they run a sloppy shop. This site
 will chack an IP against a long list of blacklists.
 
 Do folks know any other good ways to check out a host?
 
 
Why not just get a linux host some where with a static IP address which
they all have and go with that, I have not found that those are
blacklisted anywhere, but this is definitely the expensive way to do
things.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread covici
I can recomend serverbeach -- they have phone tech support, although you
usually do need to file a trouble ticket, but there is always someone
there.  Prices are quite decent.

Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tech support is always handled these days via outsourcing. There's
 nothing wrong with that; they're very competent people. But it means
 filing a trouble ticket, not calling on the phone.
 
 Now, when the site goes down due to suspension, not at all uncommon
 these days, it's nice to be able to get a higher up on the phone to
 get the site back online quickly. I interact with mine on their forums
 and had our site back up within 10 minutes of them getting into work.
 
 Speaking of which, have you discussed these issues at your host's
 forum? Any response?
 
 
 On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:42 AM, chrper...@aol.comchrper...@aol.com wrote:
  I am very unhappy with my current webhost. They have no phone access when
  problems arise, and lately they've been causing problems with mail list
  access and web host issues as well.
 
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com:


Hey ...leave Tom alone ...he got 'nuf cra'frum apr to last him...


Hey. He brings it on himself.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread chad evans wyatt
While not challenging your assessment, Heller's tech support has been 
outsourced for the decade I've been with them.  I would aver the I don't 
know's report might have something to do with the level of support you 
require; greatly more sophisticated than my own needs.  My  e-mails are always 
answered promptly, sometimes by Paul Heller himself.

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

From: TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Mac friendly web host recommendation
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:52 AM

On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:22 AM Sep 5, chad evans wyatt wrote:
 Not sure where you are, here in the DC area, Heller Information Services is 
 responsive, consistent, reliable.  http://info.his.com/

Not what it once was. They seem to have outsourced their support. I get too 
many I don't knows and we'll call you backs from them these days. The techs 
are clearly not local, but not from India either. Questions sent via email get 
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Re: [CGUYS] MacFriendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread chrper...@aol.com
Thanks to all who responded. I'll be checking out the recommendations,  
and I'll let you know what happens if / when / I switch.


I'm currently using ez web-host (http://www.ez-web-hosting.com/). I  
use them to forward various mailing lists, some of which recently  
became in-accessible for some reason. When I asked for help with this  
via a trouble ticket, it took about 5 1/2 hours to get the lists  
accessible again. No explanation, just a note that they were back up.  
Then the CPANEL for another site became inaccessible for some (still)  
unexplained reason. The message I got said that I had too much  
information on the site, but I'm only using about 25% of the space I  
am contracting for. That was fixed a bit faster, but still with no  
explanation. I am not a technically oriented computer user, so I  
find all of this very frustrating, especially when I have to explain  
issues by e-mail and then wait - however long - for a response.


Anyway, thanks! This week-end's project is to figure out where -   
when - to move my sites.


Mical


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On Sep 5, 2009, at 12:29 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system  
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From: TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com
Date: September 5, 2009 11:04:38 AM EDT
Subject: Re: Mac friendly web host recommendation


On Sep 5, 2009, at 9:42 AM Sep 5, chrper...@aol.com wrote:
I am very unhappy with my current webhost. They have no phone  
access when problems arise, and lately they've been causing  
problems with mail list access and web host issues as well.


To be fair you need to tell us the host you find so terrible. Hosts  
who provide bad service will get away with it if you don't share  
your displeasure.


I know this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find the  
archived posts. I would like a local host if possible, but I  
definitely am interested in dealing with a Mac friendly host, and  
one with phone help available, at least during business hours.


These days I find that the typical good hosting service is  
sufficiently Mac friendly that I don't need to look for any special  
Mac attention. If the service runs on Apache servers you can expect  
both Macs and PCs to be handled about equally. After all the Web  
belongs to Unix, not M$. So just avoid clueless hosting services  
that litter their home pages with M$ trademarks.


I'm doing very well with a big hosting company: 1and1.com.  They are  
international so their call centers span the globe. That means I can  
get help 24/7/365. In most cases the service from the distant call  
centers is just fine and when I call it is not to ask easy  
questions. Calls usually get answered by a human tech after just a  
few rings. The first person you speak to will be a tech and not a  
level-1 type who just does triage. The first person you speak to  
will probably be the last person you speak to. The basic service is  
priced low and is completely adequate. Their control panel lets me  
manage my accounts very easily. They have extensive online help.  
They offer lots of extra services as part of the basic package.  
While they also offer M$-based services to appeal to the ignorant  
masses, their Unix-based services are M$ free. Their help files  
treat M$ and Apple OSs evenhandedly.



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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread Marcio
Well... he has been quite helpful to me...

Marcio

-Original Message-
From: Reid Katan ka...@his.com
Sent: Sep 5, 2009 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

Quoting rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com:

 Hey ...leave Tom alone ...he got 'nuf cra'frum apr to last him...

Hey. He brings it on himself.


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Re: [CGUYS] MacFriendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread Tony B
Actually, too much information may not be as silly as it sounds. One
of my hosts offers unlimited storage and bandwidth, but limits your
inodes to 50,000. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inode

I assume you're on shared hosting? If so, 5.5 hours for a working
solution may not be too bad a deal. Remember, there could be upwards
of 1000 other sites on your server, and your host might have hundreds
of those. What I do when they don't tell me what went wrong is I ask
in a followup email (or on the forum). Half the time I don't
understand the explanation anyway. :)


On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:49 PM, chrper...@aol.comchrper...@aol.com wrote:
 I'm currently using ez web-host (http://www.ez-web-hosting.com/). I use them
 to forward various mailing lists, some of which recently became
 in-accessible for some reason. When I asked for help with this via a
 trouble ticket, it took about 5 1/2 hours to get the lists accessible
 again. No explanation, just a note that they were back up. Then the CPANEL
 for another site became inaccessible for some (still) unexplained reason.
 The message I got said that I had too much information on the site, but I'm
 only using about 25% of the space I am contracting for. That was fixed a bit
 faster, but still with no explanation. I am not a technically oriented
 computer user, so I find all of this very frustrating, especially when I
 have to explain issues by e-mail and then wait - however long - for a
 response.

 Anyway, thanks! This week-end's project is to figure out where -  when - to
 move my sites.


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Re: [CGUYS] MacFriendly web host recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread TPiwowar

On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:49 PM Sep 5, chrper...@aol.com wrote:
When I asked for help with this via a trouble ticket, it took  
about 5 1/2 hours to get the lists accessible again.


I would not consider that to be bad service. To get a report sent in  
by email fixed within a few hours is good. There is a good chance  
that switching another hosting service would give you even worse  
service. Though I would prefer a service provider that does provide  
phone support.





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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread TPiwowar

On Sep 5, 2009, at 5:18 PM Sep 5, Marcio wrote:

Well... he has been quite helpful to me...


Don't bother arguing with this bunch. What they have inflicted on  
this List in recent months is much like what the USA has had  
inflicted on it in recent weeks of wild attacks against rational  
health care. I don't know if you have been following any of this from  
afar, doctor, but it has been crazy. No rationality, just insults.  
Very sad. They even call me Hitler so I'm feeling in good company  
with President Obama.


I think it best to take the lead from our esteemed Representative  
from Massachusetts...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGX-2oTNens

He starts by asking: What planet are you on?




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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com:


On Sep 5, 2009, at 5:18 PM Sep 5, Marcio wrote:

Well... he has been quite helpful to me...


Don't bother arguing with this bunch. What they have inflicted on this
List in recent months is much like what the USA has had inflicted on it
in recent weeks of wild attacks against rational health care. I don't
know if you have been following any of this from afar, doctor, but it
has been crazy. No rationality, just insults. Very sad. They even call
me Hitler so I'm feeling in good company with President Obama.


You mean like:

 On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 23:50:30 -0400, t.piwowar wrote:


America has its Dick Cheney. CGUYS has Chris Dunford.



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[CGUYS] Vark

2009-09-05 Thread Tony B
Has anyone else tried Aardvark yet? Featured in Pogue's last column:
http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2009/09/03/technology/circuitsemail/index.html?8ciremc=cir

I logged in with a topic of computers, but after a couple dozen
tries have been completely unable to answer anything. Am I doing
something wrong or is it just that people don't ask easy questions?


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread Jeff Wright
  Don't bother arguing with this bunch. What they have inflicted on this
  List in recent months is much like what the USA has had inflicted on it
  in recent weeks of wild attacks against rational health care. I don't
  know if you have been following any of this from afar, doctor, but it
  has been crazy. No rationality, just insults. Very sad. 

I agree.  I know that expect much better from our elected representatives
and their lapdogs in the press.

It's sad that a country that once prided itself on free expression has
rulers and elites who can only look down their noses and spew slurs those
that choose to speak their minds.  Dissent is now treated as treason.


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[CGUYS] [Fwd: Ubuntu 9.04 Installation]

2009-09-05 Thread Rob
Greetings folks,

I posted this on an Ubuntu Linux list I subscribe to earlier today but
I've not yet gotten any useful responses.  So, I thought I post it here
on the chance someone may be able to help.  Here's hoping...

Thanks,
Rob


Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:09:44  -0400
Subject: Ubuntu 9.04 Installation
From: Rob robfl...@ix.netcom.com
To: Ubuntu-Users ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:09:51 -0400
Message-Id: 1252184991.8234.20.ca...@upstairsrob
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Ok...here's a brain teaser.

I have tried twice now to install Ubuntu 9.04 to a Win XP box with the
following results.

Installation Attempt #1
The install appears to proceed normally to an external 500 Gig drive
(brand new) with Grub installed to HD0.  Previous installations like
this (to an older external drive) with Grub installed to HD0 worked
fine.  However, upon reboot after the Ubuntu installation, the system
halted on Grub error 15.  Fortunately, we had burned a Super Grub CD a
little over a year ago and that allowed me to boot to XP but not to
Ubuntu on the external drive.  Thinking it may be something unique to my
machine (an IBM/Lenovo), we called them since we have have on-site
coverage.  The technician came and installed a new motherboard (don't
know how he determined that was a problem but so be it.)  We rebuilt the
machine with the factory disks that came with it and I ran XP only for
about a week before attempting to install Ubuntu again earlier today.

Installation Attempt # 2
Again, the installation appears to be proceeding normally to the
external 500 Gig drive with Grub installed to HD0.  Once again, after
installation completes and the machine is rebooted the following is
observed:

GRUB Loading Stage 1.5
GRUB Loading, please wait
Error 2

My only alternative is to reboot using the Super Grub CD to run
XP.  Would anyone have any ideas what may be going wrong here.  BTW the
Ubuntu CD I am using came from Linux Format magazine so it was not
downloaded or burned by me and I have no reason to suspect it is faulty.

Thanks in advance.
Rob


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Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: Ubuntu 9.04 Installation]

2009-09-05 Thread Vicky Staubly

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Rob wrote:

I posted this on an Ubuntu Linux list I subscribe to earlier today but
I've not yet gotten any useful responses.  So, I thought I post it here
on the chance someone may be able to help.  Here's hoping...

[...]

Ok...here's a brain teaser.

I have tried twice now to install Ubuntu 9.04 to a Win XP box with the
following results.

Installation Attempt #1
The install appears to proceed normally to an external 500 Gig drive
(brand new) with Grub installed to HD0.  Previous installations like
this (to an older external drive) with Grub installed to HD0 worked
fine.  However, upon reboot after the Ubuntu installation, the system
halted on Grub error 15.  Fortunately, we had burned a Super Grub CD a
little over a year ago and that allowed me to boot to XP but not to
Ubuntu on the external drive.  Thinking it may be something unique to my
machine (an IBM/Lenovo), we called them since we have have on-site
coverage.  The technician came and installed a new motherboard (don't
know how he determined that was a problem but so be it.)  We rebuilt the
machine with the factory disks that came with it and I ran XP only for
about a week before attempting to install Ubuntu again earlier today.

Installation Attempt # 2
Again, the installation appears to be proceeding normally to the
external 500 Gig drive with Grub installed to HD0.  Once again, after
installation completes and the machine is rebooted the following is
observed:

GRUB Loading Stage 1.5
GRUB Loading, please wait
Error 2

My only alternative is to reboot using the Super Grub CD to run
XP.  Would anyone have any ideas what may be going wrong here.  BTW the
Ubuntu CD I am using came from Linux Format magazine so it was not
downloaded or burned by me and I have no reason to suspect it is faulty.


Is your internal hard-drive IDE or SATA? I ask because Linux seems
to assign both USB and SATA drivers as pseudo-SCSI (i.e. /dev/sda,
/dev/sdb, etc.), and I'm wondering if your external drive might be
showing up as /dev/sda during install, but as /dev/sdb when you're
trying to boot from Grub on the internal drive.

When booting from the Super Grub CD, can you get into a shell? If so,
cat you send the contents of /etc/grub.conf (or grub.lst which I think
is what Ubuntu uses (I use Fedora)). And maybe /etc/fstab?

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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread Marcio
Ihave always been interested in health care as an MD and of course as a 
patient. I am very surprised that this great Country will not adopt a Single 
Payer, Medicare for all. But Americans will alwways do the right thing, after 
trying everything else. We will get there.

Marcio

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From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com
Sent: Sep 5, 2009 8:43 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

  Don't bother arguing with this bunch. What they have inflicted on this
  List in recent months is much like what the USA has had inflicted on it
  in recent weeks of wild attacks against rational health care. I don't
  know if you have been following any of this from afar, doctor, but it
  has been crazy. No rationality, just insults. Very sad. 

I agree.  I know that expect much better from our elected representatives
and their lapdogs in the press.

It's sad that a country that once prided itself on free expression has
rulers and elites who can only look down their noses and spew slurs those
that choose to speak their minds.  Dissent is now treated as treason.


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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread t.piwowar

On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Marcio wrote:
Ihave always been interested in health care as an MD and of course  
as a patient. I am very surprised that this great Country will not  
adopt a Single Payer, Medicare for all. But Americans will alwways  
do the right thing, after trying everything else. We will get there.


I appreciate your faith. I guess the most distressing part of the  
whole affair is seeing the wing nuts so ready to sell out their  
country for a sack of gold. They support the ultra-rich insurance  
barons, the M$s, the Comcasts, etc. and give the shiv to their fellow  
citizens. Did you catch the news report about one of them biting off  
the finger of someone who disagreed with them? Makes me glad that  
there is a computer separating us.



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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-05 Thread Eric S. Sande
But Americans will alwways do the right thing, after trying everything 
else.


Yes, the system is supposed to be self-correcting.

But it is naiive to suppose that institutions that have stakes in the
game will leave the table.


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Re: [CGUYS] MacFriendly webhost recommendation

2009-09-05 Thread chrper...@aol.com
I couldn't access my site to do an update, which I thought was urgent.  
I filed an urgent trouble ticket with EZ Webhost, and I received an  
e-mail back within 1/2 hour saying the issue would be resolved soon.  
About 5 hours after receiving their e-mail, I sent them a note,  
responding to their e-mail, and asked how soon soon was. They e- 
mailed back within about 1/2 hour (after 5 hours!) and said the issue  
was resolved, which it was.


I'm never quite sure, when I e-mail with an issue, if my explanation  
is even coherent, and I think I would be much happier with some sort  
of phone support.


Looking at my accounts, though, I find that one runs through May of  
2010, and the other through October of 2010, so it may be a bit before  
I actually make a switch. But I want to be sure, before I switch, that  
I only have to do this one time!


Thanks, again, to everyone, for your suggestions.

Mical Wimoth Carton
chrper...@aol.com





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On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:49 PM Sep 5, chrper...@aol.com wrote:

When I asked for help with this via a trouble ticket, it took
about 5 1/2 hours to get the lists accessible again.


I would not consider that to be bad service. To get a report sent in
by email fixed within a few hours is good. There is a good chance
that switching another hosting service would give you even worse
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