Re: [CGUYS] Gulag?
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, betty b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Unlike people who are captured and forced into slavery, the high tech workers choose that for themselves because they're too proud, short-sighted, uninformed, disconnected, to organize. Hotel workers organized and improved their lot, why not programmers? As long as they're ordinary employees or contractors [as opposed to having a written, defined, fixed contract] and not on par for negotiating with employers, the situation won't change and could get worse. I do not disagree with anything you have written. Personally, I think that a prime reason that high-tech computing professionals, as they see themselves, shun the thought of organizing for their own betterment is because they tend to associate such organization of workers as being blue collar in nature. This relates to issues of pride as you have pointed out. Organizing of workforces, and unions in general, has been cast as something that the lower castes involve themselves in. It has become a class issue as a result of hype associated with efforts to undo such attempts on the part of workers to achieve more for themselves. As service and data oriented industries have increased, and more workers are now involved in jobs that require them to sit in front of computers all day wearing suits or dressy clothing as their uniforms, distinctions have been sharpened between them and those who work in manufacturing jobs. These distinctions create powerful images, in large part promoted through advertising and other forms of propaganda, that work to greatly effect the mindsets of all workers. Lines become drawn and hardened, and we even see this being reflected in our political landscape. I.e., Palin vs. Biden = blue collar vs. white collar = working class joe six-pack vs. rich aloof elitist. Of course, we all actually know that Pain and Co. are opposed to unions and such, so go figure. Okay, I got a bit political there for a moment, but felt I had to point that out as paralleling this discussion. Has the internet been instrumental in any of this, one way or the other? I do not know, but if internet oriented communications could be of use in organizing for those working in the various fields of data entry, programming and coding, those workers need to be very careful since corporations apparently have the right to intercept and read e-mails sent or received on company owned systems. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote: Some argue that Wikipedia’s troubles represent a new phase for the internet. Maybe, as some believe, the website has become part of the establishment that it was supposed to change. Were Twitter, Facebook, or Myspace initially set up as personal social networking sites, or were they set up with the intent to accommodate corporations and businesses to an equal degree? Seems to me as though they are all being turned into advertising and promotional sites for commercial enterprises or other entities that revolve around generating income, the establishment. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Moto droid by Andy ihnatko
suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/1867831,ihnatko-verizon-droid-iphone-110509.article Good review/comparison of the new moto droid with the usual comparisons to the iPhone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Maybe Now the Feds Will Pay Attention to Cybercrime?
Terror Attacks Now Funded Mostly by Online Fraud http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?doc_id=183952f_src=ieupdate * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online storage --HIJACKED!!
Carbonite works with Apple so I expect you to be dropping apple of course. On Nov 3, 2009 11:48 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:47 PM, mike wrote: BTW, lemme know when you stop using Apple products sinc... Details please. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
On Nov 3, 2009, at 1:39 PM, John Emmerling wrote: This is arguably irrelevant. How many years ago was XP released? You can reasonably expect a version of any operation system from that far back in history to run faster than the latest version because the latest version assumes up-to-date hardware. Not true. Newer releases of Mac OS X run much faster than earlier versions. Especially true of the latest version. You M$ bias is showing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
On Nov 3, 2009, at 1:56 PM, mike wrote: Hang on I gotta throw up a little after this propaganda piece. You live on another planet. It is a dark and dangerous place where everyone preys on everyone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
On Nov 3, 2009, at 1:17 PM, mike wrote: Again your ignorance is showing. Ten years eh? Laporte has been at it longer and fits your criteria of MFB so his reviews are pretty solid. Keep dancing. Laporte is not on my list of smartest guys. After listening to a few of his shows I hit delete. I don't read his stuff either. In my book he is a zero. John Breeden is also not on my list of smartest guys, but he is on my list of respected guys. He is not a Pogue, Pegoraro , or Stephens (I. Cringely). I know John does his homework and several of his stories have been outstanding. When I see his byline I take what I read seriously. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple fixes your wagon...and yours
How many software companies have done the same thing? I can think of a few that come to mind. It is called Ethics which there are few of left in American business. Stewart At 08:13 AM 11/3/2009, you wrote: M$ took a different business tack in the early 1980's. Bill's motto was Knife the baby when an innovative software vendor would not agree to be acquired. Bill started M$ writing an OS for the IBM PC, remember? They never cared much who made the hardware. You are a little late to start whimpering now. Thank you, Mark Snyder * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
Where are they fighting losing control of their hardware in respect to how you are framing it? Psystar is not a threat to compatibility, who cares if they are compatible, it's a threat to Apple's money making machine, the hardware. And I don't say that in a negative way, of course any company is going to fight for their main turf. But make no mistake, keeping control has nothing to do with keeping quality between their own hardware/software. My point in another thread I began was taken into regions unknown on purpose to deflect, no one wanted to address the question. There is a big difference between a company being formed and selling hardware with OS X on the machines and a few hackers being able to cram OS X on a netbook for kicks. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:54 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote: To tie into another thread, Apple couldn't have done all this nearly as well if they didn't have complete control over their hardware, which is probably a major reason that they are fighting so hard to keep this control. Apple is the best example, but not the only one. Linux has shown dramatic feature improvements, and it is not uncommon for a release to be faster than its predecessor. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
Than where do I shop? The local Walmart supports all the community activities there are[, plus gives back thousands and thousands of dollars to our community. Plus they employee a large number of folks from the community. Don't support the one business in town that gives a huge amount back to the town? I also happen to know the local manager and serve with him in a local community club. Finer individual you cannot find anywhere. Stewart At 09:30 AM 11/3/2009, you wrote: But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. It's easier to avoid the evil we can see. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear
According to what I've read, part of the impression that Win7 is faster than XP and Vista is a hangover from the fact that many of the Win7 betas really were faster because they were more streamlined. That stopped being the case as Win7 moved closer to RC status and MS started adding back more stuff from Vista. From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: Real Windows 7 Reviews Start to Appear On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Most of the people that have tried it seemed to think it was pretty good for the OS itself. The biggest exception was John Dvorak who said that it ran slower on his notebook (?netbook?). The review I cited was from a guy who I know is heavy into Windows and his publication has an extensive testing lab (I have been there). John has been doing this job for over a decade. He knows his stuff. He is as solid a source as one is likely to encounter. He measures 24% slower on a netbook for W7 via XP. TWIT does not do any serious testing. Of course WFBs will pick the reviews that provide the results they want. http://gcn.com/articles/2009/10/30/splitting-the-atom-processor.aspx?s=gcndaily_021109 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives
As far as I can see, you're pretty much stuck. If you live in a place where Walmart is the only place to buy stuff, you buy stuff there. In the town next to my uncle's farm, for example, there are no grocery stores or clothing stores, so everyone goes to Walmart, 30 miles away. Many of us do have more choices. (In the suburban Maryland area, we are overbuilt in retail space; for example, there are six different kinds of grocery store within five miles of where I live. So you can shop for the degree of social consciousness of your grocery store, as well as the kind of food they have! But not everybody has this kind of luxury of choices) At least Walmart has been more amenable to pressure in recent years than some other organizations and has mended some of its ways. If you don't like something they are doing, you can tell them about it; if enough people do likewise, you may get results. An organization as large as Walmart can do a lot of damage; but, turned around, it has the potential to do much good. --Constance Warner On Nov 3, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Than where do I shop? The local Walmart supports all the community activities there are[, plus gives back thousands and thousands of dollars to our community. Plus they employee a large number of folks from the community. Don't support the one business in town that gives a huge amount back to the town? I also happen to know the local manager and serve with him in a local community club. Finer individual you cannot find anywhere. Stewart At 09:30 AM 11/3/2009, you wrote: But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. It's easier to avoid the evil we can see. ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Please Help! Scores (maybe hundreds) of emails have disappeared from my Outlook Express Inbox
Not unless you are running the penelope extension. Stewart At 09:38 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: Thunderbird does this too I believe On Oct 28, 2009 7:22 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Score another one for Eudora. Stewart At 10:04 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote: I'm using Eudora, and one reason I'm using Eudora is that ... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
Sounds perplexing to me too. But of course I have no idea what type of 'mirroring tool' you're using, or how it handles duplicate, private, or open files. And you should still have explorer set to hide system files, so maybe that accounts for the 'ghosts'. Even more perplexing to me is why you would be manually mirroring anyway. You're savvy enough to be using a RAID if that's really what you need. But then, imaging would be a much better solution for backup purposes. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:40 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I've got two drives I should have been using a mirroring tool to...mirror. But due to laziness and thinking it would be easy to not, I had not. So now I am checking for missing files between the two. Drive 1 has folder A with 13 files in the folder. If I get properties on this folder, it says there are 18 files in the folder. I have show hidden files checked, I triple checked that value to be sure. So I am showing 5 ghost files. When I get properties on the files contained in the two drives, I've got a 500 file difference with the one showing at least 5 ghost files having 500 more files. I am perplexed to be sure. I've run error check..any ideas? win 7 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
I said I wasn't using any tool. These files were moved by hand. I wrongly muddied the issue by bringing up the two drives, this is the context in which I found the problem. So I'll restart to be clear. I have a drive in which when I manually open folder XYZ it shows me 13 files. When I get properties on the folder it says there are 18 files inside the folder. HIdden files are shown, that I am sure. And to your specific question about manually mirroring these drives, I was in the process of being sure I was not missing files between the two drives when I found this problem. I output a text file of all the files on both drives and a friend on IRC wrote me a perl script to compare the two output files of the dives and spit out a third text file showing the differences between the two drives. Of not may be that the perl script showed the folder in question with the missing files, does not exist at all, in anway way. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds perplexing to me too. But of course I have no idea what type of 'mirroring tool' you're using, or how it handles duplicate, private, or open files. And you should still have explorer set to hide system files, so maybe that accounts for the 'ghosts'. Even more perplexing to me is why you would be manually mirroring anyway. You're savvy enough to be using a RAID if that's really what you need. But then, imaging would be a much better solution for backup purposes. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:40 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I've got two drives I should have been using a mirroring tool to...mirror. But due to laziness and thinking it would be easy to not, I had not. So now I am checking for missing files between the two. Drive 1 has folder A with 13 files in the folder. If I get properties on this folder, it says there are 18 files in the folder. I have show hidden files checked, I triple checked that value to be sure. So I am showing 5 ghost files. When I get properties on the files contained in the two drives, I've got a 500 file difference with the one showing at least 5 ghost files having 500 more files. I am perplexed to be sure. I've run error check..any ideas? win 7 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
Hidden files may be shown, but system files shouldn't be. IMHO, anyway. You can enable showing them, but it's probably not a good idea for most people. ANyway, if they were hidden they shouldn't be counted anyway.? You sure can't use windows explorer or perl scripts to do decent comparisons; what if a transfer was corrupt and a file is bad? I have at least two (pay) programs I could use that would work much better - Beyond Compare and Directory Opus. But, maybe because I use Dopus almost exclusively, I can't answer your question about ghost file counts in Win7, since I rarely ever use the Properties function. If you're sure they aren't hidden system files, or belong to another user, then I can't even guess. Just as a quick test, I pulled up Dopus and it tells me there are 4 folders and 12 files in this folder (explorer erroneously says 16 files). But properties says there are 110 files, apparently counting down through all the subfolders, so maybe that's the issue? FWIW, I can't find a discrepancy in any folder that doesn't contain subfolders. Maybe it's looking in compressed files? On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I said I wasn't using any tool. These files were moved by hand. I wrongly muddied the issue by bringing up the two drives, this is the context in which I found the problem. So I'll restart to be clear. I have a drive in which when I manually open folder XYZ it shows me 13 files. When I get properties on the folder it says there are 18 files inside the folder. HIdden files are shown, that I am sure. And to your specific question about manually mirroring these drives, I was in the process of being sure I was not missing files between the two drives when I found this problem. I output a text file of all the files on both drives and a friend on IRC wrote me a perl script to compare the two output files of the dives and spit out a third text file showing the differences between the two drives. Of not may be that the perl script showed the folder in question with the missing files, does not exist at all, in anway way. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds perplexing to me too. But of course I have no idea what type of 'mirroring tool' you're using, or how it handles duplicate, private, or open files. And you should still have explorer set to hide system files, so maybe that accounts for the 'ghosts'. Even more perplexing to me is why you would be manually mirroring anyway. You're savvy enough to be using a RAID if that's really what you need. But then, imaging would be a much better solution for backup purposes. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:40 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I've got two drives I should have been using a mirroring tool to...mirror. But due to laziness and thinking it would be easy to not, I had not. So now I am checking for missing files between the two. Drive 1 has folder A with 13 files in the folder. If I get properties on this folder, it says there are 18 files in the folder. I have show hidden files checked, I triple checked that value to be sure. So I am showing 5 ghost files. When I get properties on the files contained in the two drives, I've got a 500 file difference with the one showing at least 5 ghost files having 500 more files. I am perplexed to be sure. I've run error check..any ideas? win 7 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: I wrongly muddied the issue by bringing up the two drives, this is the context in which I found the problem. So I'll restart to be clear. I have a drive in which when I manually open folder XYZ it shows me 13 files. When I get properties on the folder it says there are 18 files inside the folder. HIdden files are shown, that I am sure. There is also an option to show *system* files that is different from the Show Hidden Files. Are you sure you've got that one unchecked? You can tell by looking at your desktop. There will be two system files that show there if you unhide system files. One will be desktop.ini. I don't remember what the other one is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
That's why I emailed the list...to remind me of any brain farts I may have had. I hadn't checked to show hidden system files. Thar she blows. I have a file .onetoc2 all over the place on this drive. Apparently this belongs to an office app. Why would this be a hidden SYSTEM file let alone a hidden file I have no idea. Doing a search now I find a ton of these files on the drive, a quick google search and I can't find out why. Thanks Reid for the help. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: I wrongly muddied the issue by bringing up the two drives, this is the context in which I found the problem. So I'll restart to be clear. I have a drive in which when I manually open folder XYZ it shows me 13 files. When I get properties on the folder it says there are 18 files inside the folder. HIdden files are shown, that I am sure. There is also an option to show *system* files that is different from the Show Hidden Files. Are you sure you've got that one unchecked? You can tell by looking at your desktop. There will be two system files that show there if you unhide system files. One will be desktop.ini. I don't remember what the other one is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
And this still doesn't answer the question why your properties is counting these hidden system files. Mine certainly isn't. I mean, assuming I have an extra desktop.ini in virtually every folder, it's not showing up in my file counts. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:29 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I emailed the list...to remind me of any brain farts I may have had. I hadn't checked to show hidden system files. Thar she blows. I have a file .onetoc2 all over the place on this drive. Apparently this belongs to an office app. Why would this be a hidden SYSTEM file let alone a hidden file I have no idea. Doing a search now I find a ton of these files on the drive, a quick google search and I can't find out why. Thanks Reid for the help. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: I wrongly muddied the issue by bringing up the two drives, this is the context in which I found the problem. So I'll restart to be clear. I have a drive in which when I manually open folder XYZ it shows me 13 files. When I get properties on the folder it says there are 18 files inside the folder. HIdden files are shown, that I am sure. There is also an option to show *system* files that is different from the Show Hidden Files. Are you sure you've got that one unchecked? You can tell by looking at your desktop. There will be two system files that show there if you unhide system files. One will be desktop.ini. I don't remember what the other one is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] microsoft pays to pla...er screw us
On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:08 AM, mike wrote: Well it's not a dirty trick, friend of mine on irc said it was unethical. It's not either, it's paying for a job to get done. But as I said, they are just screwing users in the end. I figured your moral sense would not be up to perceiving that it is unethical. I say it is worse than unethical, I strongly suspect it is criminal. It is time we stop merely fining corporations that do such things and identify specific individuals to imprison. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] outlook 2003 bcc question
On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Andy Gallant wrote: I want the received TO field to be empty. But, when I send BCCs only and leave TO (and CC) empty, somehow the received messages show the TO field filled in with the same value as the FROM field. This happens inside Outlook and that's not what I want. How can I fix this? Oddly, when I send CCs only and leave TO (and BCC) empty, the received TO remains empty. Thanks in advance Works fine with every email client I have ever used, but then I never use Outlook. You should not either. I guess you will have to put at least one delivery address in the TO field. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
Are the hidden files some sort of deleted files in some sort of hidden trash folder? But still being counted as existing because they are there and are recognized by the OS? Fred Holmes At 02:40 AM 11/26/2009, mike wrote: I've got two drives I should have been using a mirroring tool to...mirror. But due to laziness and thinking it would be easy to not, I had not. So now I am checking for missing files between the two. Drive 1 has folder A with 13 files in the folder. If I get properties on this folder, it says there are 18 files in the folder. I have show hidden files checked, I triple checked that value to be sure. So I am showing 5 ghost files. When I get properties on the files contained in the two drives, I've got a 500 file difference with the one showing at least 5 ghost files having 500 more files. I am perplexed to be sure. I've run error check..any ideas? win 7 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
.onetoc2 sounds like an indexing file. Fred Holmes At 02:29 PM 11/26/2009, mike wrote: That's why I emailed the list...to remind me of any brain farts I may have had. I hadn't checked to show hidden system files. Thar she blows. I have a file .onetoc2 all over the place on this drive. Apparently this belongs to an office app. Why would this be a hidden SYSTEM file let alone a hidden file I have no idea. Doing a search now I find a ton of these files on the drive, a quick google search and I can't find out why. Thanks Reid for the help. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] two drives, two folders, two results.
IIRC, desktop.ini exists only if certain features of the OS have been enabled (which features have their options recorded in desktop.ini). The drive isn't full of empty desktop.ini files. One of the features that uses desktop.ini is specialty icons for explicit folders. Fred Holmes At 02:55 PM 11/26/2009, Tony B wrote: And this still doesn't answer the question why your properties is counting these hidden system files. Mine certainly isn't. I mean, assuming I have an extra desktop.ini in virtually every folder, it's not showing up in my file counts. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gulag?
On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Tony B wrote: Around here it's got nothing to do with extra hours. It's construction jobs being lost to 'Mexicans' (anyone that speaks spanish). I've heard it from both sides though - the employers complain the local guys just won't show up on time consistently (or at all). I have no idea what sorts of extra hours these workers may put in, or if they're paid for them. But I can imagine they whine a lot less about extra work in general. Of course the won't show up excuse is dishonest nonsense. These dishonest employers want to employ the Mexicans because they can pay them substandard wages, give them little or no benefits, and demand that they put in extra time off the clock. Sometimes they don't even pay the wages that are owed. To keep this on topic: a few years ago M$ was sued over their labor practices, not as bad as those in the construction industry, but plenty despicable. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia
On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: That is what Fox and the rest of the denier community wants you to think, but it is not at all what the emails said. Unfortunately, this isn't the right place to discuss it. Fortunately Fox and the WSJ are soon to be walled off from reality to live in Bing land, to be seen only by WFBs and other true believers. I hope they hurry up so my Google Mail screen won't be cluttered with their propaganda. Does anybody know if there is a way to customize Google News to blacklist the useless? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apple Magic Mouse
I just got to spend a day with a new Mac with the new Magic Mouse. It only took a few minutes to get used to operating the screen by gliding my fingers across its surface. Today I'm back to using an Apple Mighty Mouse and I must say I'm annoyed. The Magic Mouse makes computing so much easier. I wonder if the number of gestures used to operate with this mouse will grow rapidly. Seems to me that it could easily do so. That could create a totally new way of interacting with the computer. I suspect such a situation will enflame those on this list who are already quite averse to change. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia
On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Richard P. wrote: Wikipedia shows signs of stalling as number of volunteers falls sharply I'm not surprised. Wikipedia has matured and really does need fewer hands to maintain it. Meanwhile lots of new opportunities have emerged. Some of the new venues have even been launched by Wiki Foundation itself. I bet that many of the people who worked on Wikipedia in its early days were early adopters who are attracted to everything new. Today they have moved on to new pastures -- Twitter etc. Despite this, I suspect there will be enough new people to keep Wikipedia viable. I'm constantly impressed when I read the Wikipedia to find that the latest events in the news are immediately incorporated. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?
On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Tony B wrote: Dreamweaver only needs a key and the original disks to reinstall. But it's also fairly useless these days for modern CMS-driven websites. Unless she's taking web design courses, in which case she would need the newest DW. I'd say don't obsess about it. Dreamweaver is definitely useless if you are working in one of those companies in the gulag. A CMS, like a good Chinese government bureaucrat, will enforce sterile uniformity on your every page. However if you are still in a position to exercise your freedom, Dreamweaver is just peachy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] microsoft pays to pla...er screw us
I've been on this list far too long to not feel more at ease if my moral sense does not match yours. On Nov 26, 2009 3:10 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:08 AM, mike wrote: Well it's not a dirty trick, friend of mine on irc sai... I figured your moral sense would not be up to perceiving that it is unethical. I say it is worse than unethical, I strongly suspect it is criminal. It is time we stop merely fining corporations that do such things and identify specific individuals to imprison. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Magic Mouse
Looks interesting, but I'm still leery of touchpads in general. Anyway, since there's no version available for Windows yet, it's useless on most systems. I'm not sure what you mean about 'growing' gestures. All the ones I've seen are gestures that have been used for ages. Either by moving the whole mouse, or just the scroll wheel. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:44 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I just got to spend a day with a new Mac with the new Magic Mouse. It only took a few minutes to get used to operating the screen by gliding my fingers across its surface. Today I'm back to using an Apple Mighty Mouse and I must say I'm annoyed. The Magic Mouse makes computing so much easier. I wonder if the number of gestures used to operate with this mouse will grow rapidly. Seems to me that it could easily do so. That could create a totally new way of interacting with the computer. I suspect such a situation will enflame those on this list who are already quite averse to change. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gulag?
I cannot speak to the construction industry but can tell you about the food processing industry. When I worked for a major animal processing plant they had a 100% turn around of personnel every year. Of that number the immigrants were the ones who stayed while the Anglos and African Americans were the ones who rotated out with regularity. I trained with line workers (I was an industrial chaplain) and a number of folks dropped out when they toured the facility and then dropped while working on the lines. Regularly when overtime was offered the Hispanics offered to work it. When the line would shut down early the Hispanics asked for extra work to get more hours. Part of the problem is that we have bread laziness and inefficiency into our folks letting them think that they do not have to work to earn a living. One of my members works for a contractor and is represented by a union. He said one of the problems with is union is that it uses LCD to make the standards. Lowest Common Denominator. Now understand I do not endorse moving work off shore and overseas to make the bottom line. Where I live most (or should I say all) the mils and fabric processing lines have closed and the companies have shuttered many many factories. But we also are the culprits, we want everything at the lowest price possible. We are willing to spend the least to get what we want. The top brands of cars bought on the clunkers rebates were mostly foreign. Now everyone has touted the reliability and quality of foreign automobiles. However recent surveys have found that a number of US manufacturers rate very high. So often it is a perceived problem not a real one. So before we start making snide comments let us make sure we are not also part of the problem. Stewart At 04:20 PM 11/26/2009, you wrote: Of course the won't show up excuse is dishonest nonsense. These dishonest employers want to employ the Mexicans because they can pay them substandard wages, give them little or no benefits, and demand that they put in extra time off the clock. Sometimes they don't even pay the wages that are owed. To keep this on topic: a few years ago M$ was sued over their labor practices, not as bad as those in the construction industry, but plenty despicable. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Dreamweaver (was: Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?)
t.piwowar wrote: However if you are still in a position to exercise your freedom, Dreamweaver is just peachy. How hard is it to learn and use Dreamweaver? I currently use Contribute to manage a web site, but at time find it a little lacking. I have never really worked with HTML. Thanks, Steve B (the other Steve) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dreamweaver (was: Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?)
For basic HTML it's got a steep learning curve. But for todays CSS-laden sites, it's got a massive learning *overhanging cliff*. Tom seems to want to disparage CMS's uniformity, but that's why people like them so much. Trying to program that much CSS by hand is a daunting task not for the squeamish. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.net wrote: t.piwowar wrote: However if you are still in a position to exercise your freedom, Dreamweaver is just peachy. How hard is it to learn and use Dreamweaver? I currently use Contribute to manage a web site, but at time find it a little lacking. I have never really worked with HTML. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
