Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
More than partially plausible. The average rate doesn't jibe with my own experience in places such as Poland, for example, which has terrific broadband speed in urban areas, at least as fast as urban experience in the Czech Republic and Slovakia. And what to think of Finland, the most connected country on earth, having a slower rate that GB? Or Germany's rate as slower than that of the US? "Average" is only the partial story... --- On Sat, 4/3/10, tjpa wrote: From: tjpa Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 1:32 PM On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: > Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its > population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. > Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. > Also see this map of the distribution. Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your 90 mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all those who live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
Right now it cold be Canadian or US. They are almost on par. Stewart At 10:44 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote: Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops out at 50. Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is. How much does Rogers Cable charge or 25 and 50 Mbps service? In Canadian dollars? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops out at 50. Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is. How much does Rogers Cable charge or 25 and 50 Mbps service? In Canadian dollars? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] My download speed
Don't know if this is good or bad. Advice, please. 10 mbps is basic LAN speed. That's broadband in my book. If that's what you're paying for that's what you should be getting. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars
I agree. We all have to stop living in the past. No kidding. We can anticipate the iJack shortly. Absolutely painless. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] My download speed
Reading the "Broadband Speed Map" message, I checked my speed at http://www.wugnet.com/myspeed/speedtest.asp Download Speed is 10.0 Mbps Upload speed variable for 3 tests: 0.76 Mbps, 1.51 Mbps, and 1.6 Mbps. Don't know if this is good or bad. Advice, please. I have Verizon FIOS in Vienna, Virginia. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:57 PM, mike wrote: > I saw a guy eating a bowl of cereal once while on the freeway. Why not > compute? I agree. We all have to stop living in the past. Technology has shown us that there is another way. We need to begin to let the technology, and those corporations that create it, lead us and to dictate how we live our lives. For us to control the technology is old fashioned and well out of date. It is time for us to cast aside our old ways and enter the future, a cell phone in one hand, an iPad(or something similar) in the other and our eyes glued to a GPS unit to show us the way forward. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars
I was just catching up on some of the technology videos at the NY Times site: http://video.nytimes.com/video/playlist/technology/1194811622271/index.html I think it was the video of their 2nd day of CES coverage where they had a guy talking about a new Garmin unit that can communicate with a device they will sell that will plug into the car's computer. The Garmin GPS would then be able to display various data that the computer is seeing. tjpa wrote: On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I see that at least one car maker, Hyundai, is already going to include an iPad as an accessory to at least one of their models It solves a big problem for car makers by letting them add many computerized features to the car without having to go into the computer building business. They can just write apps or have somebody else write them. I wonder if the dock connector will allow the iPad to interface with any of the car's systems. For example to limit what the iPad can do while the car is in motion. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
So things in the USA are really much worse than the map would indicate. You are not making us feel better. Farthest thing from my mind (to not make you feel better). I'm saying that the data used to create that map is insufficiently granular, that's all. I wouldn't be privy to the methodology that was used, but I can tell you for a certain fact that it was likely based on slippery terms. It's great for making a point, but it isn't a true reflection of the current state of affairs as I know them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
In municipalities we are well served by high speed Net access. It is when you get on the fringes of these municipalities and into the suburban areas that there is a stark difference. There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or so that have varying degrees of service. Most of them have VOIP available. Our municipality does not have any special services, except the cable company is offering speeds of 15mps. (I have achieved this occasionally on my own connection) Much of the problem has to do with the cable systems. Also the age of our copper system (phone lines) is starting to cause problems. I have checked out DSL high speed and the best they can offer is 4mps due to limitations of the infrastructure. Again it is hit and miss. (A lot like AT&T's 3g coverage) Stewart At 04:40 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote: On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: The speeds on the map are somewhat misleading. The FCC says that anything over 768 kBPS qualifies as "broadband." Nothing in that says anything about symmetric or asymmetic (and they are setting the bar too low). So things in the USA are really much worse than the map would indicate. You are not making us feel better. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: The speeds on the map are somewhat misleading. The FCC says that anything over 768 kBPS qualifies as "broadband." Nothing in that says anything about symmetric or asymmetic (and they are setting the bar too low). So things in the USA are really much worse than the map would indicate. You are not making us feel better. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars
I saw a guy eating a bowl of cereal once while on the freeway. Why not compute? On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:11 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:29 PM, tjpa wrote: > > > It solves a big problem for car makers by letting them add many > computerized > > features to the car without having to go into the computer building > > business. They can just write apps or have somebody else write them. I > > wonder if the dock connector will allow the iPad to interface with any of > > the car's systems. For example to limit what the iPad can do while the > car > > is in motion. > > I didn't realize that car makers were facing such a problem. > > At any rate, why would anyone who desires to do a bunch of computing > as they drive want to connect their computer to the car in a fashion > that would impose any limits on those activities based upon whether or > not the vehicle is in motion? > > Since Apple is targeting their iPad at "non-geek" buyers, a la the > iPod, their business aim is to hopefully have an iPad in the hands of > virtually everyone in the world by some point in time. If that > results in the iPad becoming viewed as the perfect device for in-car > computing use, some serious problems will loom, especially if more car > makers begin to offer them as accessories in order to boost their own > sales. > > Apple already sells vehicular mounts for their iPod, iPod Touch and > iPhone in their Apple Stores. Let's see how long before they offer an > iPad vehicular mount. > > FWIW, the AT&T coverage map as linked at the Apple Store says that I > have good signal level 3G service at my house in Fauquier County, VA. > Fact is, I can almost never receive any AT&T signal here, nor can > anyone else, and when it can be obtained it is very weak. The service > area map does indicate spots near me that have no coverage, so that > tells me that their map is incomplete and cannot be relied upon. I > would surmise that if areas of no service appear on their map that are > in close proximity to a location of particular concern, that would be > a good indicator that service may not be available in the area of > actual interest regardless of what their map says. > > Steve > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:29 PM, tjpa wrote: > It solves a big problem for car makers by letting them add many computerized > features to the car without having to go into the computer building > business. They can just write apps or have somebody else write them. I > wonder if the dock connector will allow the iPad to interface with any of > the car's systems. For example to limit what the iPad can do while the car > is in motion. I didn't realize that car makers were facing such a problem. At any rate, why would anyone who desires to do a bunch of computing as they drive want to connect their computer to the car in a fashion that would impose any limits on those activities based upon whether or not the vehicle is in motion? Since Apple is targeting their iPad at "non-geek" buyers, a la the iPod, their business aim is to hopefully have an iPad in the hands of virtually everyone in the world by some point in time. If that results in the iPad becoming viewed as the perfect device for in-car computing use, some serious problems will loom, especially if more car makers begin to offer them as accessories in order to boost their own sales. Apple already sells vehicular mounts for their iPod, iPod Touch and iPhone in their Apple Stores. Let's see how long before they offer an iPad vehicular mount. FWIW, the AT&T coverage map as linked at the Apple Store says that I have good signal level 3G service at my house in Fauquier County, VA. Fact is, I can almost never receive any AT&T signal here, nor can anyone else, and when it can be obtained it is very weak. The service area map does indicate spots near me that have no coverage, so that tells me that their map is incomplete and cannot be relied upon. I would surmise that if areas of no service appear on their map that are in close proximity to a location of particular concern, that would be a good indicator that service may not be available in the area of actual interest regardless of what their map says. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? A variety of reasons. The real question is how you define broadband. The speeds on the map are somewhat misleading. The FCC says that anything over 768 kBPS qualifies as "broadband." Nothing in that says anything about symmetric or asymmetic (and they are setting the bar too low). Taking the broad, statistically flawed numbers on that map as gospel would lead me to the conclusion that the USA is faster on average than France. That's not true in my experience comparing DC to Paris, for example. The assumption seems to be that the few with true broadband access of 10 mbps to 1 gbps, when averaged with the many with only dialup, equals some kind of magic number. That's small comfort to the many. In my business, we're chasing LAN speed targets. Forget that 768K. It's so last week. Actually, I was surprised the US did so well, even though I know that the map was FUBAR. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:45 PM, mike wrote: The day must end in Y, Tom is blaming the neomicrosofticons again. And the neomicrosofticons continue to insist that our slow connections are just fine and that any news of better service in other countries must be some statistical aberration. The only surprise is that we haven't gotten any quotes from Glenn Beck or Dick Cheney. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
The Amen Corner checking in. Friends on the Lower North Shore of Quebec have neither dependable dial-up, nor hydro. - Original Message - From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map Absolutely. My in-laws live 300+ miles north of the border. The services they can get and the cost are far, far different than what is offered in the lower half of the province. The farther you get from the border the more remote and rugged it gets. Leave any of the population dense sites and it is like stepping into another world. Stewart At 12:32 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote: On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution. Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your 90 mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all those who live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
First you must live in a Rogers Cable served area. Stewart At 12:51 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote: Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops out at 50. Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is. And that it standard cable, not FIOS. Michael Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
We have cable here like that, in most areas too...just not MINE which is what matters. heh On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Michael Wosnick wrote: > Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in > Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an > account type that is one higher than that which tops out at 50. Mind you it > doesn't;t come cheap but there it is. > > And that it standard cable, not FIOS. > > Michael > > > > > > From: tjpa > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com > Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 1:32:14 PM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: > > Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its > population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. > Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US > border. Also see this map of the distribution. > > Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your 90 > mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all those who > live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars
..and look for Hyundais to contribute to other kinds of hits, in short order... the iPad will easily take care of that vexing problem. There are already a number of vehicular mounts for the iPad, and you can bet that more will hit the stores very soon. Steve -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops out at 50. Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is. And that it standard cable, not FIOS. Michael From: tjpa To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 1:32:14 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: > Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its > population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. > Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. > Also see this map of the distribution. Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your 90 mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all those who live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
Absolutely. My in-laws live 300+ miles north of the border. The services they can get and the cost are far, far different than what is offered in the lower half of the province. The farther you get from the border the more remote and rugged it gets. Leave any of the population dense sites and it is like stepping into another world. Stewart At 12:32 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote: On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution. Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your 90 mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all those who live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
The day must end in Y, Tom is blaming the neomicrosofticons again. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:48 AM, t.piwowar wrote: > > > The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule resulting > in no national broadband policy. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars: The real ipad
http://i.imgur.com/It9To.png On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:33 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > I see that at least one car maker, Hyundai, is already going to > include an iPad as an accessory to at least one of their models. Look > for more car makers to quickly follow suit. The iPhone or iPod Touch > had screens too small to view movies or easily read and write e-mails > or surf the web as you drove your car down the highway, but the iPad > will easily take care of that vexing problem. There are already a > number of vehicular mounts for the iPad, and you can bet that more > will hit the stores very soon. > > Steve > > -- > WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security > Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad's in cars
On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I see that at least one car maker, Hyundai, is already going to include an iPad as an accessory to at least one of their models It solves a big problem for car makers by letting them add many computerized features to the car without having to go into the computer building business. They can just write apps or have somebody else write them. I wonder if the dock connector will allow the iPad to interface with any of the car's systems. For example to limit what the iPad can do while the car is in motion. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution. Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your 90 mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all those who live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] iPad's in cars
I see that at least one car maker, Hyundai, is already going to include an iPad as an accessory to at least one of their models. Look for more car makers to quickly follow suit. The iPhone or iPod Touch had screens too small to view movies or easily read and write e-mails or surf the web as you drove your car down the highway, but the iPad will easily take care of that vexing problem. There are already a number of vehicular mounts for the iPad, and you can bet that more will hit the stores very soon. Steve -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: I think many of the LCD panels are made there. But of course, it is LCD that make their broadband so fast. Why did I not think of that? America needs more LSD right away! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution. http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/10/70010-004-BBFE93FB.gif Canada needs only a 1 dimensional backbone. The US a 2 dimensional network. t.piwowar wrote: For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule resulting in no national broadband policy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2787 - Release Date: 04/03/10 02:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
South Korea is pretty high tech. I think many of the LCD panels are made there. Stewart At 10:26 AM 4/3/2010, you wrote: > For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have > such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? > > http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html Interesting factoid: Unless I missed someone, South Korea is the fastest in the world and twice as fast as its nearest competitor, Japan. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
> For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have > such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? > > http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html Interesting factoid: Unless I missed someone, South Korea is the fastest in the world and twice as fast as its nearest competitor, Japan. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
Less competition more regulation! Stewart At 09:48 AM 4/3/2010, you wrote: For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule resulting in no national broadband policy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule resulting in no national broadband policy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing
On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: This smart phone thing is getting competitive. I'm finding the terms on the iPad very interesting. 3G connectivity is sold on demand in by-the-month units. To start it is $15 for a capped connection. If I go over I can convert that to unlimited by paying another $15. It I can get by with WiFi during a month I pay $0. Such flexibility is very appealing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
