Re: [CGUYS] Cox Modem Troubleshooting
On May 9, 2010, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Subject: Cox Modem Troubleshooting During the last week, my cable modem for Cox Cable loses its Internet connection about once or twice a day. When troubleshooting, the light that indicates the cable connection on the Linksys modem, model BEFCMU10, is not illuminated. If I reboot the modem, it comes up fine and I get adequate speeds through the connection. After calling Cox, the only thing they can offer is a service call for which I will be charged if it turns out that the problem is after their connection. I have also noticed a slight degradation in the analog TV signal from Cox during the last week as well. Should I just go ahead and replace the modem to see if that makes a difference? It would be less than the service call. Yes, replace it. I had exactly the same issues and the modem finally failed. They suggested a service call, but I suspected that they would just say I needed to replace the modem. Much more convenient for me to go to the Cox office than wait for a service tech. Replacement was around $35. My modem was a several years old and should have been changed for one meeting the newer standards a couple of years ago. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 31, 2010, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Subject: Re: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed? Link? Second time I've asked you to back up an assertion...you ignored the first time, got a link this time? How about we agree that even if this did happen, at least that phone vendor doesn't assume all it's customers are stupid as Apple assumes all it's customers are morons not able to make choices for themselves. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:32 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I read recently about an app loaded onto a smartphone that did not have a review/approval process in place. The app did all sorts of mischief leading to huge bills for the poor sap who downloaded it. It think a large part of Apple's approval process is trying to prevent such problems. It was the android app store. Here is the alert from the credit union involved: http://bit.ly/50M69N . No, Apple doesn't treat its customers like morons. It knows they want a seamless experience above all. That requires intelligently limiting choices. They don't always get it right first time, but you can tell that there are lots of smart people thinking about these choices. I intend to get an iPad next year. If I'm honest, it can do 90% of what I use a computer for outside of work. 10 hours of batter life and the cheap 3g will make it a brilliant travel companion. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Drop box
On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:12 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:26:37 -0500 From:Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.net Subject: Drop Box Has anyone used Drop Box? What are the pros cons? Steve There's no real cons. I use Dropbox on my Macbook, Windows 7 running in VirtualBox, a Ubuntu machine and my wife's iBook. Documents saved in the Dropbox folder exist in the cloud and on every machine you run Dropbox on. lt is great for really important current documents. It doesn't take the place of a good backup strategy. It is a very useful tool. Items too large to email can be placed in the public folder inside your Dropbox. Right clicking on the item allows you to copy a url you can email and that will trigger a download. Up to 2gb it's free with no ads. I love it. I find it hard to believe that everyone on this list doesn't use it. David Newhall Falls Church, Va * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] overdrive for mac
On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:36:38 -0700 From:One Man one911...@yahoo.com Subject: overdrive for mac To access remotely my public library's online catalog, specifically electro= nic resources, I am trying to download overdrive.com for mac. =A0It starts = to download as=A0ODMediaConsoleSetup.dmg, but I get the message Mounting f= ailed Overdrive.com suggested that if I have google desktop installed, I should d= isable it. =A0 Huh? With thanks in advance ...=0A=0A=0A It's probably a bad download. I'd just delete the dmg and try again. I don't see how it could be google desktop. I've been using Overdrive on my mac for months. Just downloaded and mounted the dmg without a problem. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What the ...
On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:46:59 -0700 From:Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Subject: What the ... Today I had some reason for creating a text document. I just recently bought my new iMac 24 Intel. So I went to start Apple works. Nothing there. When I first got the computer I loaded Office 08' because I had it. Good thing. I checked my old install disks, couldn't find a thing. No Appleworks, nothing like that. I did find something it wouldn't let me load because the computer didn't support the OS 9 architecture. I looked at iLife. I've got all that. So besides Textedit and Stickies, where the hell did and decent text app go? Jeff M iLife is free. iWorks was $79 the last time I looked. It may be discounted with a new Mac. I'm surprised there's not a trial version on your machine. I have it and like it more than Office, but use Office of of habit most/all of the time. David Newhall Falls Church * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac or PC laptop?
I'm a mac guy, but think you obviously need a high end Windows machine. That said, if you're going to spend the money, you might consider a Macbook Pro and dual booting. Or even running a virtual machine. I have Sun's free Virtualbox and Windows 7 running very nicely on my white Macbook. Windows 7 beta is free for the next year and seems pretty nice. I'm using it for downloadable aubiobooks from my library and will install Quicken 2007 that I need for a voluteer position. David Newhall Falls Church, Va * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X
On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:35 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:05:21 -0500 From:Wayne Dernoncourt way...@panix.com Subject: Windows Active X I bought myself a Garmin GPS in October. I've been trying to register it on the Garmin site for the last couple of weeks. I say trying because so far I've been failing. They don't really support the Mac so I've been trying to use my wife's Windows XP computer. The Windows version uses Active X for the registration process. For some reason, Active X is being prevented from running, I tried shutting down AVG and nothing still worked. I don't know how to figure out where to go from here. Garmin is one of the few GPS companies that provides decent Mac support. I've registered two on my Mac and love the new tool that sends google map coordinates to the Favorites folder on the device right from Google Maps. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MP3 Player for the Visually Handicapped?
On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:21 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:22:52 + From:computerg...@att.net Subject: MP3 Player for the Visually Handicapped? Hello all. I would like to buy a MP3 Player for an elderly person with Macular Degeneration so she can enjoy Old Radio shows. It does not have to be portable, but portable is ok. Need simple controls that don't need a screen. The Ipod appears not to be the solution. Thanks for any replys. -Bill. Are there any other solutions than the 4th gen iPod? I don't know of any other mp3 players that have text to speech for menus, albums, artists etc. You do need the latest iTunes, but it is much less of a dog on Windows than it was. David Newhall Falls Church, Va * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem?
On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:43 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Subject: Re: iTunes problem? Is this the best I can do when importing mp3s, or am I missing something? If you already have an MP3 file it is not going to do any conversion when you import. You will then need to convert the file, which is what you are doing. iTunes 8 allows flipping a file back and forth between music and audiobook format. Get information Options tab and there's a pull down menu. I'm still using the shareware Audiobook Builder to make audiobooks. I don't know why as this is obviously better. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 17 Oct 2008 - Special issue (#2008-691)
On Oct 17, 2008, at 8:38 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:05:11 -0400 From:Stephen Brownfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windows Media Player question A friend of mine, who is blind, would like to slow down the speed of his MP3s (mostly audio books). Is there a way to do this with Windows Media Player? If not do you have any other ideas? He is running Windows XP. Thanks Steve How about using an iPod? My older iPod Nano allows slow, normal, and faster settings for audiobooks. I just tried it and the pitch changed, but it wasn't too bad. And the new Nano can be set to read the menu. Very cool for blind users. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS System: Any recommendations?
I bought three of the least expensive Garmin Nuvis for myself and my kids. Not having to ask map phobic passengers for help navigating is one big advantage that should not be underrated. Another is being able to concentrate on driving rather than navigating on high speed urban roads like Connecticut Ave in DC - at least for someone like me who rarely drives in the city. The Nuvis are completely functional, but not fancy. I am very pleased with them. David Newhall Falls Church, Va * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Laser printer
From a recent Deal-mac * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * inline: 690165-medium.jpg $90 + free shipping Brother HL-2170W Wireless Laser Printer for $90 + free shipping For current newsletter subscribers only, newegg.com offers the Brother HL-2170W Wireless Laser Printer for $89.99. Apply coupon code EMCADBJCG to get free shipping. That's $10 under Tuesday's me... (more) David Newhall Falls Church Date:Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:40:58 -0400 From:Eugene V Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Laser printer I'd appreciate some advice: I want to buy a relatively inexpensive, monochrome laser printer for very light duty in a home office with three Macs networked via a router and an Airport Extreme (g). Duplex capability is highly desirable but not strictly necessary (e.g. I can't pay too much extra for it), and a small footprint is greatly desirable. I find it hard to choose from all the options available online, plus I have some specific questions: 1) All things being equal, what's the best way to network a printer: ethernet to the router, USB to the Airport, or either to the physically closest Mac (an iMac in my case)? 2) Does the printer language emulation matter for any reason as long as the printer is Mac 10.5 compatible? (I'm currently using an Apple Laserwriter Select 360 that supports PostScript level 2, but other makers seem to have brand-specific languages.) 3) Any thoughts about the wisdom or not of buying used? TIA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ebook readers
I use a refurb Palm Zire 31. It was about $90 and has a color backlit screen. It's not perfect, but is perfectly usable, at least for me. Each page is about the chunk of text I'd scan in a book, so each push of the button is right in rhythm with my reading style. I use it waiting in line at the bank or grocery and especially love it for long night time car trips. It is also a useful anti-boredom measure for those long waits outside the dressing room when accompanying a loved one clothes shopping. It's cheap enough that I won't be heartbroken if I lose or destroy it. It fits in a pant's pocket. It can be used under many lighting conditions. An hour or a month later it is still at the paragraph where you left off and you will never run out of reading material. David Newhall Falls Church, VA On Mar 6, 2008, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Re: ebook readers I'm thinking of giving an ebook reader to someone who loves reading books and takes Metro to work. I'm trying to choose between the Sony Reader, Amazon's Kindle, or waiting. Any experiences, concerns, or suggestions to share? TIA. I hate ebooks. I travel a lot. I carry paperback books. They drop. They get wet. They fall in mud, dirt, get lost under the seat in cars, buses, planes, trains. When I finish reading my book, I give it to someone else, and pick up another. Many small hotels, inns, apartments outside the US have a library where you leave your finished books and pick up one you like. Our local public library [Cecil County, MD] has a free magazine exchange and used paperback books for 10-25 cents. Wet paperbacks can dry out. Wet ebooks die. I trade paperback books with other readers. I'd have to refill an ebook and couldn't share it and have something to read at the same time. I've never had an ebook on the beach, but I suspect they're hard to read in the sun, and don't do well in sand [?]. Be sure that the person who will potentially receive the ebook really wants one and realizes its features and limitations. Otherwise the ebook will end up spending more time on a shelf or in a drawer, or broken. For electronic books, I prefer unabridged audiobooks on my iPod. My 2 cents. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ebook readers
David Weber provides a cd with his hardcover SF containing free e- copies of most of his works. I have most of the Honor Harrington series on my Palm. His publisher, Baen, has a site with lots of free SF ebooks called the Baen Free Library. SF author Eric Flint has an interesting take on piracy on its homepage. Baen believes that the publicity benefits out weight the dangers of piracy. Right now I'm re- reading Jane Eyre that I got, I believe, from the Gutenberg site. I've occasionally purchased ebooks from Fictionwise.com, but very rarely. David Newhall Falls Church, Va On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:30 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Re: ebook readers An hour or a month later it is still at the paragraph where you left off and you will never run out of reading material. Where do you get content? Is it free or pay? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?
I love my 4g nano, but would recommend something larger. You don't really want to have to manage playlist. You just want to sync. A co-worker's husband gave her an iPod for Christmas with with photos and tunes from their courtship. She cried. Evil man setting such high standards for the rest of us. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Windows to Apple migration?
In the Macbook the slots are very easy to get to. Just two levers in the battery compartment. David Newhall Falls Church, VA Subject: Re: Windows to Apple migration? This is good information, thanks. Can the laptop be ordered with 1024 in the hard to-get slot? I didn't see this option on Apple's webpage. How difficult is it to get to the hard-to-get-to memory slot? Does it require taking apart more of the case or is it just difficult to access through the main opening? Thanks again, Richard P. Tom Piwowar wrote: Is it ok to go with the low-end model ($1099), with the 80GB drive/1GB RAM or does that create future upgrade issues? It depends. It has 2 memory slots. Only one is easy to get to. So ideally you want it to come with 1024 in the hard-to-get-to slot and the easy one empty so you can eventually get 2GB. If it comes 512 + 512 you will have to discard the 512 to put in 1024 to max out at 1.5GB. So if you can't get 1024 + 0 you it may be wiser to order 1024 + 1024. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] wo questions about Macbook Pro -- card reader backup
On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Two questions about Macbook Pro -- card reader backup Second question: She got the Macbook Pro last September. Would getting an external USB or IEEE 1394 hard drive be beneficial for backup (i.e., would the Mac OS automatically back up like I've heard when an external hard drive is connected? (There is a name for this, but I can't think of it.) I got my daughter a pocket sized bus powered firewire and the shareware backup program SuperDuper. After the first backup the incremental backups take less than 15 minutes - often much less. And she will have an identical drive that she can boot any intel mac from and have it be indistinguishable from her original. I think that this is better than Time Machine (Which I have never used.), but if you get a drive that's twice as big as the laptop's you could do both. Your daughter must have upgraded to Leopard on the mac to get Time Machine. A few of the reviewers of Leopard have said how cool Time Machine is, but that they would still rely on SuperDuper for backups. David Newhall Falls Church,VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] G5 grace period question
On Nov 11, 2007, at 6:20 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: G5 grace period question My experience is negative. Four weeks out of Applecare and an iBook HD failure resulted in plenty of free Genius help diagnosing, and an I'm sorry it will be $300 to replace. Time for the #00 philips and the iFixit instructions. One would hope they'd be better with a logic board on an iMac failure than with a laptop drive. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Setting Up a Bootable External Drive
I use SuperDuper. Basic version is free, but I paid for the full version. The incremental backup takes about 15 minutes. I have a large partitioned firewire drive that I back up my kid's ibooks up with when they're home from school. My son's iBook died (He's really hard on stuff.) his first week back at VCU. I was able to pull the drive, use SuperDuper to back it up to the firewire, backed mine up to the firewire, put his backup on my iBook, and send him back to school as if nothing had ever happened. Bought myself a new Macbook as a reward for being such a good dad. David Newhall Falls Church * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Macbook memory
Buy.com has the 2 gig Crucial kit for 64.99 after rebate. $10 less if you've never used Google Checkout. David Newhall Falls Church * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Now I am in troubles...
On Aug 31, 2007, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Now I am in troubles... If you are using a router try connecting directly to the modem. If that works, you know it is a router issue. I spent many hours trying to solve a similar situation. DNS lookup didn't work for the iMac connected directly to the router, but worked flawlessly for the ibooks connected by wireless. Switching port usually got things working for a bit, but it was a firmware update that solved it. I was a Dlink router. David Newhall Falls Church * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Memory stick / flash drive with U3 -- get rid of U3
The security setup on the public computers at my library (part of the Fairfax County system) doesn't allow U3 flash drives to work. Just the cd portion of the drive appears. Recently, there have been a few students with dead printers at home who were unable to print their last minute papers at the library. I spent quite a long time trying to help one desperate student. I now know that if you see the U3 cd icon and no flash, you are out of luck. David Newhall Falls Church On Jun 3, 2007, at 7:46 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From: Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: June 3, 2007 7:43:10 PM EDT Subject: Re: Memory stick / flash drive with U3 -- get rid of U3 U3 USB may not install drivers on the local machine in the sense of not putting commands in the registry to load drivers (whether the U3 drive is attached or not) and not writing the driver files to the local machine hard drive, but the U3 package does have drivers (dlls, etc.) in it which are surely loaded from the memory stick into the computer's main memory when the U3 drive is inserted into a USB port. Fred Holmes At 07:25 PM 6/3/2007, Chris Dunford wrote: I not only don't care for the U3 features, I don't want to load up my system with any more drivers. Just to clarify, U3 drives do not (or should not) install any drivers on the local machine. The whole point of U3 is that it's completely machine- independent. When you install a U3-compliant program on it, you can cart your U3 drive to any PC and run the program without installation and without affecting the local registry, etc. It's really a pretty neat idea, and in my experience it works very well indeed. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived