[CGUYS] YM & YMail open at same time?

[One Man]

Why can't I be signed into YM and YMail at the same time on the same computer?
I'm running them on Max OS 10.5.8 using Safari 5.0.2
When I click on the "mail" button on YM, YMail opens, but YM closes.  I get the 
following error message:  "You have been disconnected from chat because you 
have signed into Yahoo! Messenger from another computer or device."
With thanks in advance!





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[CGUYS] Recs 4 hw "support" for netbook

[One Man]

 
I 'm travelling and using a samsung netbook. I like the navy lid. I sit on the 
couch at my bro's, cross my legs and balance the netbook on a pillow.  This 
can't be good as it blocks the fan vents. Any recs for something to purchase to 
rest the netbook on ? With thanks in advance ...




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[CGUYS] Windoze open open in new tab open in new window

[One Man]

Why does windoze have these categories?  I understand tab and window but why 
does it have just "open"? open where?  on the planet uranus? why have a third 
meaningless option.  Let the rant begin.
 





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[CGUYS] cell phone recommendations

[One Man]

Any recommendations for a new cell?  Requirements are: att service and free.  
From the customer reviews on their website they all sound like crap.  But I 
guess poor sound quality is endemic to the industry.  With thanks ...





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[CGUYS] Cell phone nos.

[One Man]

Having sent my motorola razor through the wash and dry, I can't get it to work. 
 Now at&t wants to replace my cell no. as well as the phone.  what gives?





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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

[One Man]

One word: Skylab

Back when M$ was creating this mess I was yelling about it almost every month 
and contrasting it with what others were doing. M$ built a system where 
everything could link to everything else ...





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Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question

[One Man]

When the power goes out, you have no phone, like during a lightning storm, very 
common here in Texass.  Hence the reason we no longer use earthlink phone, 
vonage phone, timewarner phone, skype phone, etc.  Of course your cell will 
work if it's charged :)  All of these computer based phones are only practical 
as supplements to another system.

--- On Sat, 1/2/10, phartz...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: phartz...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:56 PM

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:24 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> You old folks may not have noticed, but a modern household is going to have
> a small computer sitting where the telephone used to sit. It will be running
> Skype 24/7.

  Hey, what if that computer is a Windows machine?  Isn't it going to
be locking up, crashing or falling victim to viruses all the time?
How the heck could that thing possibly be up and running 24/7?

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[CGUYS] formats web archive vs page source

[One Man]

I want to save some images from the web and the options safari gives me are 
save as "web archive" or "page source"
Advantages to either?
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[CGUYS] Pages. ugh!

[One Man]

I'm using pages to draft notes from a text.  I type the page no. 
(non-consecutive), then the notes I want to write.  Pages continues to try to 
make the List Style "1. a. i.", no matter how often I select all and select the 
List Style "None".  What am I doing wrong?

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com


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Re: [CGUYS] CD just erased by itself!

[One Man]

Is it really true that one should only write on a cd with a marker labeled 
CD/DVD marker?  The Sharpie I bought for that purpose doesn't really seem any 
different than regular Fine and Ultra Fine Sharpies -- just more expensive! :)

--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Terry Kilburg  wrote:

From: Terry Kilburg 
Subject: [CGUYS] CD just erased by itself!
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 11:24 AM

I had a data cd that i saved a few documents, emails on and my email addys and 
favorites for about 2 yrs. Now when i load the cd, it's blank! I have the 
things on the 'puter so i can put 'em back on.

I have an LCD monitor and i put the cd back in the case and set it a few inches 
away...is the a small magnetic force that eventually wipes the cd?

I save them to the cd...would it be better if I burned them on instead or it 
doesn't matter?



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Re: [CGUYS] Why not Dell?

[One Man]

you are sorry.  I gather you selectively read.

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Chris Dunford  wrote:

From: Chris Dunford 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Why not Dell?
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 10:34 PM

Sorry, I don't think it's splitting hairs. You appeared to be alleging 
corporate malfeasance, but the example you supplied was employee embezzlement. 
It's ACORN again, with different players.

But, again, I'm not saying that there was never any corporate wrongdoing--only 
that your example wasn't it. There are probably better examples.

> -Original Message-
> From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] 
> On Behalf Of One Man
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:48 PM
> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Why not Dell?
> 
> Np, split hairs.  Dell employees push unnecessary products because the 
> corporate culture rewards them
> to do so and they embezzle on the side.  Happy


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Re: [CGUYS] Why not Dell?

[One Man]

Np, split hairs.  Dell employees push unnecessary products because the 
corporate culture rewards them to do so and they embezzle on the side.  Happy?  
Is there a connection? Corporate greed, private greed.  Do as I say, not as I 
do.  Inadequate safeguards allow and encourage employee embezzlement.  It's 
like these companies are reinventing the wheel.  You do know the old story of 
locking the barn door after the horse has escaped?

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Chris Dunford  wrote:

From: Chris Dunford 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Why not Dell?
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 6:32 PM

> Dell has a history of deceptive and illegal trade practices.  Check your 
> receipt.  A cabal of employees charged sales tax to out of state customers 
> and funneled the proceeds to their own private accounts.

That's not "Dell", it's embezzlement by Dell employees. When you say something 
like "Corporation ABC has a history of ..." you're implying that the 
corporation itself has done something bad (like,
say, marketing cigarettes to minors when you know they cause cancer). That's 
clearly not the case you mention here. This is no different from a bank 
employee making charges to your account and
pocketing the money. It's embezzlement, and the corporation is one of the 
victims, not the perpetrator (or, as one of our local newsguys sometimes says, 
the "guilty perpetrator").

Now, I'm not saying that Dell has never done anything wrong. But that's not 
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Re: [CGUYS] Why not Dell?

[One Man]

Regrettably, you're probably right.  
Apple sold me pages when they should have sold me MS for apple.
Dell has a history of deceptive and illegal trade practices.  Check your 
receipt.  A cabal of employees charged sales tax to out of state customers and 
funneled the proceeds to their own private accounts.

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, mike  wrote:

From: mike 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Why not Dell?
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 4:59 PM

Every company is going to sell itself.  To expect different is to be
foolish.  Those walking into the Apple store should be as equally armed as
those in Best Buy or anywhere else.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:40 PM, mike  wrote:
>
> > People should arm themselves with information before they walk into a
> place
> > were sales occur.
>
>   Precisely.  And that is what is so bad about the MS "Laptop Hunter"
> series of advertisements.  Those ads appear to suggest that the best
> way to get the best computer for your needs is to go into a big box
> store and put yourself in the hands of their sales staff.  No
> research.  No information.
>
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[CGUYS] overdrive for mac

[One Man]

To access remotely my public library's online catalog, specifically electronic 
resources, I am trying to download overdrive.com for mac.  It starts to 
download as ODMediaConsoleSetup.dmg, but I get the message "Mounting failed"
Overdrive.com suggested that if I have google desktop installed, I should 
disable it.  
Huh?
With thanks in advance ...





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[CGUYS] Remaining memory on a mac

[One Man]

how can I tell how much of my hard disk memory I've used and how much remains?  
with thanks in advance





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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora

[One Man]

 where's my flint?

--- On Fri, 9/11/09, t.piwowar  wrote:
Why don't we still live in caves and bang rocks together to make tools?





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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora

[One Man]

What's wrong with familiarity?  why should users be required to learn yet more 
s/w when they're already comfortable with what they're familiar?  Yes, call me 
a curmudgeon.

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, t.piwowar  wrote:

From: t.piwowar 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:11 PM

On Sep 7, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Marcio wrote:
> Hmmm I am considering this...going Gmail. But will I find all that Eudore 
> offers?

As time goes on I find that software does get smarter and better as developers 
understand tasks better (except for M$ Office). New software may do things 
differently, but the change is typically worthwhile. For example I find Apple's 
mail or GMail to be entirely adequate. Exactly what is so complicated about 
email that nothing but Eudora will suffice for your needs?






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[CGUYS] yet another off topic request, but who knows?

[One Man]

I have coaxial cable (Time Warner) coming from the wall that I want to split to 
provide cable to the tv and tuner.  My tuner is older and has no need of 
replacement.  When I split the cable to the tuner my only option appears to be 
"Antenna" on the back of the tuner, which requires a raw wire connection 
attaching to "clips".  I've already been to two Radio Shacks and spoken to the 
District Manager on the cell.  They cannot help.  Can anyone on this list help? 
 With thanks in advance





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Re: [CGUYS] Snow Leopard Review

[One Man]

Are you so certain hw "innovations" are driving sw development?I would be happy 
with XP through if they never releases a new OS.  But I am aware that as 
hardware advances they will want to write a new OS to take advantage of the new 
capabilities of that hardware.






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Re: [CGUYS] NEWS FLASH: Apple adds date to menu bar !!!

[One Man]

Precision in language and proofing of writing are often useful, I've found.
It's not the day, but the date.
And, yes, you can already display the month and date by means of the pull down 
menu in Leopard.

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OK, so this is not of interest to you guys, but in Leopard, and I believe in 
Tiger, you've been able to display the day and month in the menu bar using the 
settings found in System Preferences-International-Formats for some time. You 
might have to mess with it to figure it out. But it works.




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[CGUYS] NEWS FLASH: Apple adds date to menu bar !!!

[One Man]

I lost interest when Dan Frakes began his review with "a minor tweak ... *9* 
years in the making" -- viewing the date in the menu bar.  Come on.  How 
difficult is it to click on the time for the pull-down menu of the date???  
Doesn't Steve Jobs have better things to do with his programmers' time?

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, t.piwowar  wrote:

From: t.piwowar 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Apple Lied?
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 10:37 AM

And...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAb-b88rofw


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update i.e. IE 6, 7, 8

[One Man]

Please tell me how to "hide" the update.  It appears everytime I boot up.  
Or, should I just knuckle under and install the update?

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Sue Cubic  wrote:

From: Sue Cubic 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update i.e. IE 6, 7, 8
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:48 PM

At 11:03 PM 8/28/2009 -0400, you wrote:
> Has anyone had trouble with Windows Update, when using any of those versions?

The only trouble I'm having is that MS seems to be pushing IE8--even after I've 
declined to install it 3 times now, and have "hidden" that update.  I don't use 
IE (except for updates), and don't want an update.

I have auto updates set for notifications, but if you use the icon at the 
bottom of the screen, you do not get to see what is downloading.  You do get a 
chance to see what the updates are before you install them.  I suspect I have 
downloaded IE8...maybe even twice, but have not allowed the install.

I'm using XP Home SP3.






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[CGUYS] syncing iPods

[One Man]

I want to add some songs on my iTunes playlist to my friend's iPod, which is 
already synced to another iTunes  How can I do this, as I keep getting the 
message that iTunes will erase the friend's iPod in order to sync?  With thanks 
in advance ...





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[CGUYS] CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-R, Music CD-R

[One Man]

Is there any difference among all these cd formats to copy music from iTunes?  
I mean, I understand CD-Rs can only be used once, CD-RWs can be rewritten, but 
what makes a Music CD-R a MUSIC CD-R?  If there are differences, anyone care to 
recommend brand(s)?  With thanks in advance ...




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Re: [CGUYS] how does iTunes work?

[One Man]

I selected error correction in the import preferences, and I"m on a mac

--- On Sun, 8/9/09, b_s-wilk  wrote:

From: b_s-wilk 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] how does iTunes work?
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 8:33 PM

> No, it's asking which version of the cd to use

Is there a preference in the import settings to use error correction when 
inserting a CD? If so, is it selected?

Mac or Windows version of iTunes?


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Re: [CGUYS] how does iTunes work?

[One Man]

No, it's asking which version of the cd to use

--- On Sun, 8/9/09, b_s-wilk  wrote:

From: b_s-wilk 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] how does iTunes work?
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 6:28 PM

> I'm in the process of uploading my cd library into iTunes so I can download 
> it into my iPod.  Before the upload begins I'm often getting
>  the question as to which version of the upload I want to use (for example).  
>This sounds like I'm uploading the cds from iTunes, not from my cds, and 
>iTunes is searching for the version I want to upload.  Is this how iTunes 
>works?  With thanks in advance ...

Is it asking which file format to use?

Start with the Preferences, General tab. Click on Import Settings and
choose a compression format [MP3, AAC...] or uncompressed [AIFF, WAV],
set a bitrate, or create custom higher bitrate settings. With MP3 and
AAC you can put many more tracks on your iPod. AIFF and WAV files are
larger, can have much better sound quality, but fewer will fit on your iPod.

Also select the location for saving your imported music in the
preferences. Otherwise you may forget and not be able to find them if
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[CGUYS] how does iTunes work?

[One Man]

I'm in the process of uploading my cd library into iTunes so I can download it 
into my iPod.  Before the upload begins I'm often getting the question as to 
which version of the upload I want to use (for example).  This sounds like I'm 
uploading the cds from iTunes, not from my cds, and iTunes is searching for the 
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Re: [CGUYS] YM & signing onto another device

[One Man]

Yahoo Messenger
Yes, I can change the p/w, as I wrote in the original post

--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Tony B  wrote:

From: Tony B 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] YM & signing onto another device
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:56 AM

I think first you may have to tell us what 'ym' is. Yahoo Messenger?
If so, and your account has been hacked, you won't be able to change
the password. Have you searched in their help forums?


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, One Man wrote:
> Several days recently while using ym I get a message that says ym is closing 
> because I've signed onto another device/computer.  I've not signed onto 
> another device/computer and because I imagine? someone is trying to phish? 
> me, I change the p/w.  Should I be concerned?  And what should I do?  With 
> thanks in advance ...


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[CGUYS] YM & signing onto another device

[One Man]

Several days recently while using ym I get a message that says ym is closing 
because I've signed onto another device/computer.  I've not signed onto another 
device/computer and because I imagine? someone is trying to phish? me, I change 
the p/w.  Should I be concerned?  And what should I do?  With thanks in advance 
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[CGUYS] Hp Hulk Monitor

[One Man]

The display on the monitor of my hp pavilion f1703 running windoze xp has 
transformed its insipid blue background to hulk green.  Anything I can do or is 
it time to buy a new monitor, preferable made my macintosh? ;)  With thanks in 
advance ...





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Re: [CGUYS] "On-Screen Keyboard"

[One Man]

thanks but a touch pad?  it's a dell notebook.  

--- On Tue, 7/7/09, Stephen Brownfield  wrote:


From: Stephen Brownfield 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] "On-Screen Keyboard"
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 4:42 PM


Is your laptop also touch pad?  I have seen it set up on those as the 
default, so that  people can log in if it is in touch pad mode.  I 
unfortunately do not know how to change that seting.

Steve


One Man wrote:
> Will someone pls tell me in simple terms how to remove the "On-Screen 
> Keyboard" from my Dell Laptop, so that it doesn't open everytime I boot up?  
> With thanks in advance 
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Re: [CGUYS] "On-Screen Keyboard"

[One Man]

I'm running Vista

--- On Tue, 7/7/09, Jeff Wright  wrote:


From: Jeff Wright 
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] "On-Screen Keyboard"
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 8:20 AM


I believe that is an native accessibility function in XP.  Look under Start
>> Programs >> Accessibility

> -Original Message-
> Will someone pls tell me in simple terms how to remove the "On-Screen
> Keyboard" from my Dell Laptop, so that it doesn't open everytime I boot
up?
> With thanks in advance  


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[CGUYS] "On-Screen Keyboard"

[One Man]

Will someone pls tell me in simple terms how to remove the "On-Screen Keyboard" 
from my Dell Laptop, so that it doesn't open everytime I boot up?  With thanks 
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Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

[One Man]

Um, you are legally required to carry a dl while driving.

Also, why would showing your license be any different then letting them keep
the license while you test the car?





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Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

[One Man]

It's a deal killer.   It's an inappropriate use of a form of govt id which was 
intended for the SS admin, not the convenience of Sprint.  A private biz cannot 
require you to divulge your ssn.
It's the same thing when I was trying to buy a car and test driving.  They want 
to keep my driver's license.  They want to do this so they can run a credit 
check to see if I can afford the car I'm testing.  All they need to know is 
that I have a valid dl, and that can be confirmed by visual inspection.
When I test drove a car at another agency, they took no information from me, 
only my name.  When I drove away without purchasing, they took my tag down and 
a few days later I received a nice ty note for considering biz with them.  It's 
apparently legal, but at least I'm not volunteering info they don't really need.

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)  wrote:

From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) 
Subject: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 11:14 AM

According to Slashdot's article here
 you cannot open a Sprint account and buy a Palm Pre without
telling Sprint your Social Security number (ostensibly so they can run a
credit check).  

Anybody willing to do that for a mobile phone or is that a deal killer?

Thank you,

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Re: [CGUYS] Blogging for marketing & networking (was: Blogging: is it worth it?)

[One Man]

um.  that was irony.  here's more:  I save that for my shrink
why not just create a web page
I can't imagine a serious business/publisher being impressed with a blog

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Constance Warner  wrote:
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Re: [CGUYS] Blogging for marketing & networking (was: Blogging: is it worth it?)

[One Man]

I thought the following was the point of blogging:I DON'T want to rant, emote, 
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[CGUYS] Audacity

[One Man]

I'm recording voice and cd for an Audacity presentation.  When I save, it 
splits the recording into many pieces.  When I try subsequently to play the 
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Re: [CGUYS] Opening jpeg files

[One Man]

I'm having the same problem with OS X since the update, except that they are pc 
docs now opening in textedit rather than wp. Can you help?  With thanks in 
advance.


--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Tony B  wrote:

> From: Tony B 
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Opening jpeg files
> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 12:30 PM
> Locate the file in an Explorer window ("My
> Computer"), right-click it
> and select "Open with", and be sure to select the
> checkbox to always
> open with the app you choose.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Ralph
>  wrote:
> > Somehow, my WinXP has lost its pointer to which
> program is supposed to
> > open jpeg files - which is a pain because I don't
> know what I was
> > using.  Any suggestions?
> 
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Re: [CGUYS] What is a good free DVD Player PC software?

[One Man]

Um, not all of us have lived our entire lives in the US, and some of us even 
have non region one dvds and non region one dvd players that we've purchased in 
other countries.


--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Tom Piwowar  wrote:

> From: Tom Piwowar 
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] What is a good free DVD Player PC software?
> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:34 PM
> >For the record, and I'm sure you'll think
> it's a bogus page I built myself
> >so I won't link it...but they sell region free
> players.  You can buy one.
> >YOU can buy one.  RIGHT NOW...you can buy it and have
> it delivered, have the
> >neighbor kid set the time and hook it up and watch a
> movie.  What is your
> >stake in promoting something as illegal when it's
> not?
> 
> I just Googled the topic and found a range of opinions. In
> some countries 
> it is definitely illegal. In the US there is debate about
> whether it 
> covered under the DMCA. As soon as there is a definite
> court ruling on 
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[CGUYS] Regressive tax, was Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

[One Man]

Proportionately, the poor indeed do pay more tax than the wealthy.


> Still, given the higher marginal tax rates on income, I
> very much doubt that you pay more tax than the more wealthy.


  


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[CGUYS] Regressive tax, was Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

[One Man]

You're mistaken.

The poor pay proportionately more sales tax.

It's called a regressive tax.

>From dictionary.com:

regressive tax 

A tax that takes a higher percentage of low incomes than high ones. Sales 
taxes, especially on food, clothing, medicine, and other basic necessities are 
widely cited as examples of regressive taxes. 

> Disproportionate to what?  Take sales tax - the poor tend
> to pay less
> > sales tax, as more of their expenditures are on
> non-tax items such as
> > food.  With the earned income tax credit, their income
> tax can go
> > negative, offsetting their payroll tax in whole or in
> part (usually in
> > part as far as I know).  Add in various forms of means
> tested
> > assistance,  and there are indeed some who on balance
> are net
> > recipients rather than tax payers.
> 
> You make some general assumptions there.
> 
> Two of the three states I have lived in tax all food and
> general merchandise.  TN has a high local sales tax 9.75%
> and we paid that on all groceries and GM except
> Prescriptions.  TN had no state income tax.  I presently
> live in AL. and they too charge full sales tax on all
> groceries and GM except for Prescriptions and we do have a
> state income tax.  Local sales tax is 9%.
> 
> Oh the threshold for state income tax is low.  I think AL
> has the lowest threshold for state income tax for all
> states.
> 
> How is that not disproportionate?  I have to spend most of
> my income as it is not high enough to afford me a lot of
> discretionary income.  Therefore I pay tax on most of my
> purchases.
> 
> Stewart
> 
> Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
> mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
> Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
> Ozark, AL  SL 82
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[CGUYS] Fairnes, was Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

[One Man]

While fairness may indeed be a fundamental virtue, it's largely a myth, like 
the "fairness" of when pigs fly.

>Fairness is a fundamental
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Re: [CGUYS] sod off, was Re: [CGUYS] no sod for you

[One Man]

I suppose you mean sale boche ?

> There is a reason the Germans called the French dirty.


  


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[CGUYS] sod off, was Re: [CGUYS] no sod for you

[One Man]

they've got their turf; what do they care for the nation's?


> the sodding was pulled from the bill to appease the
> republicans.  they still voted 100% against. 


  


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Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

[One Man]

plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

> Three years ago they dug up Farragut Square. They even
> broke up all the 
> concrete sidewalks that criss-cross the park. Then they
> poured new 
> concrete where the old concrete had been. The old concrete
> had been fine. 
> The new concrete looked no better. It was actually a bit
> worse as the new 
> contractor had little skill. They put down sod. They
> didn't water it. It 
> died. We now have a very scruffy park, just like we had
> before.


  


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[CGUYS] Slave labor, was Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?

[One Man]

What percentage of everything you consume is produced offshore by "slave labor" 
?

What do you think your Nikes (anywhere) and Kathy Lee Gifford $20 skirts 
(Walmart) would cost without it?  Would you be willing to pay the "true cost" 
of such items when made by well-paid workers?

Clearly, you've never been in Asia, where "slave labor" provides money to 
families who would otherwise lack it or otherwise starve or sell their children 
into the sex trade of the slums as an alternative.

> what percentage of your beloved MAC products are produced
> offshore, by slave labor?


  


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[CGUYS] Save to PDF?, was Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

[One Man]

Do you mean "Save as PDF" ?  When I last used this feature on a Pages version 
3.0.2 wp document, it saved the PDF in a hug font, larger than the original 
Pages wp document.  I thought pdfs were to preserve the look of the original.  
What did I do wrong?

> OS X's "print to PDF" feature is great, by
> the way.  I use it regularly
> when sending documents that the recipient doesn't need
> to edit
> because that way I don't have to worry whether or not
> they can
> read it.  Leopard gained the ability for PDF's to have
> working
> hyperlinks, at least for PDF's produced from Apple
> applications.
> I know it's not as good as Acrobat, but it's good
> enough for me,
> and it's free with the OS.


  


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[CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves Digital TV Delay

[One Man]

I disagree.

I visited the mall this summer, and it needed to be resodded then.  It's not a 
worthwhile expenditure for Congress, but worthwhile for the tourist industry 
and provides jobs.  

> Resodding the mall (wrecked by the wonderful outpouring of
> support for the inauguration) may well be a worthwhile
> expenditure for congress, but not in an emergency economic
> and job stimulation package.


  


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward

[One Man]

duh.  thanks for the tip.  I've since downloaded eudora and that comes up as 
the default mail reader.  but it still looks like mac mail.  I've been using 
web-based (earthlink and yahoo), but it seems I need a mac mail account, and 
then try to open the mac mail in eudora.  sorry for my stupidity.  but why 
can't I open my earthlink mail in eudora ?


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Jim  wrote:

> From: Jim 
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail:  Redirect vs. Forward
> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 11:34 AM
> Did you try opening Mail, preferences, general, select your
> "default mail reader"?
> 
> 
> On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:22 PM, One Man wrote:
> 
> > I detest mac mail.  I don't understand why I
> can't change it from the default when I click on a
> webpage to send an email and damn damn damn mac mail opens. 
> Help!
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, b_s-wilk
>  wrote:
> > 
> >> From: b_s-wilk 
> >> Subject: [CGUYS] Mac Mail:  Redirect vs. Forward
> >> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> >> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:39 PM
> >> A friend of mine keeps forwarding formatted email
> from Mac
> >> Mail. It
> >> arrives in my mail as a collection of disjointed
> pictures
> >> and broken
> >> links, with full headers. I use Thunderbird for my
> email
> >> client. Haven't
> >> been able to reproduce the jumble in either
> program.
> >> 
> >> What kind of settings in Mail could cause that? I
> guess she
> >> forwards
> >> email by clicking on the Forward button in the
> toolbar. I
> >> don't know if
> >> "Redirect" [in menu] will make a
> difference,
> >> mostly because she hasn't
> >> done it yet, AFAIK.
> >> 
> >> She said tonight that other people get jumbled
> email from
> >> her too.
> >> Is there a MIME setting in prefs to fix that? The
> default
> >> format is RTF,
> >> which is odd, since it's nonstandard for
> email. I never
> >> liked Mac Mail.
> >> This gives me another reason to dislike it even
> more. I
> >> don't think it's
> >> Yahoo email problem because hers are the only
> messages I
> >> receive like
> >> that.
> >> 
> >> Is this any help:
> >> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624)
> >> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624)
> >> Content-type: multipart/mixed;
> >> boundary=Apple-Mail-12-178195691
> >> 
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> >> 
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Re: [CGUYS] Family Project

[One Man]

you need to distinguish between "spirited" discussion and "petty" discussion


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Tom Piwowar  wrote:

> From: Tom Piwowar 
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:03 PM
> >I showed my daughter the emails regarding the building
> of the  computer.  
> >Her question was "Who ARE these guys? 
> Sheesh!"
> 
> Then she lives a very sheltered life. When fans get
> together a spirited 
> discussion is inevitable and a few elbows thrown is not at
> all unusual. 
> What could generate more sparks than the building of a
> computer from 
> scratch? Would you expect a neighborhood basket ball game
> to be a bunch 
> of guys saying "excuse me" and "after
> you"?
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward

[One Man]

I detest mac mail.  I don't understand why I can't change it from the default 
when I click on a webpage to send an email and damn damn damn mac mail opens.  
Help!


--- On Fri, 1/16/09, b_s-wilk  wrote:

> From: b_s-wilk 
> Subject: [CGUYS] Mac Mail:  Redirect vs. Forward
> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:39 PM
> A friend of mine keeps forwarding formatted email from Mac
> Mail. It
> arrives in my mail as a collection of disjointed pictures
> and broken
> links, with full headers. I use Thunderbird for my email
> client. Haven't
> been able to reproduce the jumble in either program.
> 
> What kind of settings in Mail could cause that? I guess she
> forwards
> email by clicking on the Forward button in the toolbar. I
> don't know if
> "Redirect" [in menu] will make a difference,
> mostly because she hasn't
> done it yet, AFAIK.
> 
> She said tonight that other people get jumbled email from
> her too.
> Is there a MIME setting in prefs to fix that? The default
> format is RTF,
> which is odd, since it's nonstandard for email. I never
> liked Mac Mail.
> This gives me another reason to dislike it even more. I
> don't think it's
> Yahoo email problem because hers are the only messages I
> receive like
> that.
> 
> Is this any help:
> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624)
> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624)
> Content-type: multipart/mixed;
> boundary=Apple-Mail-12-178195691
> 
> Betty
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[CGUYS] Mac improvement, WAS Re: [CGUYS] This annoying thing

[One Man]

What about mac improvements?  Have I foolishly downloaded the latest version of 
OS X, only to find that docs sent to me now open in TextEdit (ugh) and the 
window for my Hard Drive when opened is now expanded to a HUGE version?  Help?

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, db  wrote:

> From: db 
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] This annoying thing
> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 6:58 PM
> What  you don't like MS's improvements?   :)
> 
> db
> 
> Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote:
> > Hi friends, help me.
> > 
> > For some reason my IE now shows up without the
> toolbars that it had before. Now it shows the page I asked
> for and no bar on the top.
> > Then, when I go with the mouse and touch the upper
> limit of the screen, a limited bar drops down but without
> all the goodies I used to
> > have there including the bar for the IE with tools,
> etc. When I right click the mouse I can chose to check
> several tool bars but even after I do this the bars are not
> there. I know I had this before but I forgot what I did...
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Marcio
> > 
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