Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:36 PM, db wrote: In my opinion it is a bad idea to be without a software firewall on your computer. The possibilities of a successful exploit and the cost of recovery are too great. Fly without that net if you want... but don't complain if you hit the ground hard... I fully understand why Windows users have to be so fearful and constantly cowering. In that environment it is hard to know what is really necessary. It is much like the security theater we see all over DC. You are the TSA of computing making us take our shoes off. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Ranbo wrote: I uninstalled Zone Alarm Pro (after activating the Windows firewall). So far, things are better - loading web pages and documents. FF still seems a little sluggish at times, with IE being somewhat faster. Don't you have a router which provides you with a firewall? Hardware firewalls are safer and more efficient. You only need a software firewall if you are on a local network that has untrusted computers on it (e.g. teenagers with PCs sharing your network with you). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
Some like to run outgoing firewalls to be...extra careful. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:05 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Ranbo wrote: I uninstalled Zone Alarm Pro (after activating the Windows firewall). So far, things are better - loading web pages and documents. FF still seems a little sluggish at times, with IE being somewhat faster. Don't you have a router which provides you with a firewall? Hardware firewalls are safer and more efficient. You only need a software firewall if you are on a local network that has untrusted computers on it (e.g. teenagers with PCs sharing your network with you). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
Now try uninstalling FF and reinstall it and see if there is yet more improvement. db Ranbo wrote: I uninstalled Zone Alarm Pro (after activating the Windows firewall). So far, things are better - loading web pages and documents. FF still seems a little sluggish at times, with IE being somewhat faster. Thanks Randall On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:05 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yes, Uninstall Zone Alarm Pro completely. I think you are going to find that was the problem. Ever so often anybody's updates can and will break things and security software has deeper hooks into your machine than any other besides the OS itself. If it solves the problem, contact ZA support and let them tell you how to fix it. You might have to go back to the previous version and don't do updates until they fix the problem. db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
NAT SPI router's firewall's are not so very difficult to defeat and they functionally offer 0 protection the first time someone logs a laptop on to your router. (which of course no one thinks of at the moment they are logging on...) Good Security is provided by layers of protection so that you don't have a single failure point. Unfortunately software ... like everything else in life ... screws up so now and then. So you have to deal with it / fix it. As is apparently the case with this Zone Alarm / Firefox? issue... db mike wrote: Some like to run outgoing firewalls to be...extra careful. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:05 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Ranbo wrote: I uninstalled Zone Alarm Pro (after activating the Windows firewall). So far, things are better - loading web pages and documents. FF still seems a little sluggish at times, with IE being somewhat faster. Don't you have a router which provides you with a firewall? Hardware firewalls are safer and more efficient. You only need a software firewall if you are on a local network that has untrusted computers on it (e.g. teenagers with PCs sharing your network with you). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:25 PM, db wrote: Good Security is provided by layers of protection so that you don't have a single failure point. I'm so, so glad to be using a Mac. I actually have time to do productive work on my computer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
No, don't have a router and am only user on this computer. So no need for any firewall? On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:05 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Ranbo wrote: I uninstalled Zone Alarm Pro (after activating the Windows firewall). So far, things are better - loading web pages and documents. FF still seems a little sluggish at times, with IE being somewhat faster. Don't you have a router which provides you with a firewall? Hardware firewalls are safer and more efficient. You only need a software firewall if you are on a local network that has untrusted computers on it (e.g. teenagers with PCs sharing your network with you). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
On Dec 9, 2009, at 8:02 PM, Ranbo wrote: No, don't have a router and am only user on this computer. So no need for any firewall? You probably do have a router. The box between your computer and the outside is probably a router. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
In my opinion it is a bad idea to be without a software firewall on your computer. The possibilities of a successful exploit and the cost of recovery are too great. Fly without that net if you want... but don't complain if you hit the ground hard... db db Ranbo wrote: No, don't have a router and am only user on this computer. So no need for any firewall? On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:05 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Ranbo wrote: I uninstalled Zone Alarm Pro (after activating the Windows firewall). So far, things are better - loading web pages and documents. FF still seems a little sluggish at times, with IE being somewhat faster. Don't you have a router which provides you with a firewall? Hardware firewalls are safer and more efficient. You only need a software firewall if you are on a local network that has untrusted computers on it (e.g. teenagers with PCs sharing your network with you). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
*Thanks, I couldn't get Fire Fox to load, so downloaded a new version and it now seems to be working better (opens links, loads pages, etc.) though some pages are still pretty slow. I'll do these other steps as well. Should I uninstall some of the spyware programs and uninstall Zone Alarm Pro, including firewall (while turning on Windows firewall) to see if this improves loading speed? Randall * On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:47 AM, db db...@att.net wrote: Uninstall the whole virus package you installed, turn windows firewall back on for some protection and see if that improves things. If so, google the symptoms related to that software. Sometimes security packages go wrong... db Ellen Rains Harris wrote: Operating system? Amount of RAM? Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000. - Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help! Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here. My Dell desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. When I click on links nothing happens. Sites don't load or only very, very slowly, hence the constipation metaphor. IE freezes up and Fire Fox (which is what I usually use) is having the above problems. Documents also open slowly. These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly worse since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role. I notice that it now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this as I recall). I also have at least one other spyware program running, so wonder if I have too much of a good thing. My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it. Are there simple steps I should take to see if the problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is not able to show the Toolbar. Don't know if this is related, but in Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional. Tried to reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once did). Couldn't get this fixed, either. Don't know if this might be related to other problems. Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Should I just start uninstalling questionable software? I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things worse. I have 1 gig of memory. Should I add more? Will this magically solve everything?! :) Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Ranbo wrote: I couldn't get Fire Fox to load, so downloaded a new version and it now seems to be working better (opens links, loads pages, etc.) though some pages are still pretty slow. Don't write things like some pages. That just frustrates people who are trying to help you. Be specific. Yes you should drop all active spyware protections. You can always scan for this later. I do not think it is worthwhile to bog the computer down with marginally useful software. So I would never run anti-spyware all the time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
Yes, Uninstall Zone Alarm Pro completely. I think you are going to find that was the problem. Ever so often anybody's updates can and will break things and security software has deeper hooks into your machine than any other besides the OS itself. If it solves the problem, contact ZA support and let them tell you how to fix it. You might have to go back to the previous version and don't do updates until they fix the problem. db Ranbo wrote: *Thanks, I couldn't get Fire Fox to load, so downloaded a new version and it now seems to be working better (opens links, loads pages, etc.) though some pages are still pretty slow. I'll do these other steps as well. Should I uninstall some of the spyware programs and uninstall Zone Alarm Pro, including firewall (while turning on Windows firewall) to see if this improves loading speed? Randall * On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:47 AM, db db...@att.net wrote: Uninstall the whole virus package you installed, turn windows firewall back on for some protection and see if that improves things. If so, google the symptoms related to that software. Sometimes security packages go wrong... db Ellen Rains Harris wrote: Operating system? Amount of RAM? Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000. - Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help! Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here. My Dell desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. When I click on links nothing happens. Sites don't load or only very, very slowly, hence the constipation metaphor. IE freezes up and Fire Fox (which is what I usually use) is having the above problems. Documents also open slowly. These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly worse since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role. I notice that it now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this as I recall). I also have at least one other spyware program running, so wonder if I have too much of a good thing. My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it. Are there simple steps I should take to see if the problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is not able to show the Toolbar. Don't know if this is related, but in Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional. Tried to reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once did). Couldn't get this fixed, either. Don't know if this might be related to other problems. Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Should I just start uninstalling questionable software? I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things worse. I have 1 gig of memory. Should I add more? Will this magically solve everything?! :) Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
I uninstalled Zone Alarm Pro (after activating the Windows firewall). So far, things are better - loading web pages and documents. FF still seems a little sluggish at times, with IE being somewhat faster. Thanks Randall On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:05 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Yes, Uninstall Zone Alarm Pro completely. I think you are going to find that was the problem. Ever so often anybody's updates can and will break things and security software has deeper hooks into your machine than any other besides the OS itself. If it solves the problem, contact ZA support and let them tell you how to fix it. You might have to go back to the previous version and don't do updates until they fix the problem. db Ranbo wrote: *Thanks, I couldn't get Fire Fox to load, so downloaded a new version and it now seems to be working better (opens links, loads pages, etc.) though some pages are still pretty slow. I'll do these other steps as well. Should I uninstall some of the spyware programs and uninstall Zone Alarm Pro, including firewall (while turning on Windows firewall) to see if this improves loading speed? Randall * On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:47 AM, db db...@att.net wrote: Uninstall the whole virus package you installed, turn windows firewall back on for some protection and see if that improves things. If so, google the symptoms related to that software. Sometimes security packages go wrong... db Ellen Rains Harris wrote: Operating system? Amount of RAM? Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000. - Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help! Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here. My Dell desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. When I click on links nothing happens. Sites don't load or only very, very slowly, hence the constipation metaphor. IE freezes up and Fire Fox (which is what I usually use) is having the above problems. Documents also open slowly. These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly worse since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role. I notice that it now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this as I recall). I also have at least one other spyware program running, so wonder if I have too much of a good thing. My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it. Are there simple steps I should take to see if the problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is not able to show the Toolbar. Don't know if this is related, but in Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional. Tried to reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once did). Couldn't get this fixed, either. Don't know if this might be related to other problems. Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Should I just start uninstalling questionable software? I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things worse. I have 1 gig of memory. Should I add more? Will this magically solve everything?! :) Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org
[CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here. My Dell desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. When I click on links nothing happens. Sites don't load or only very, very slowly, hence the constipation metaphor. IE freezes up and Fire Fox (which is what I usually use) is having the above problems. Documents also open slowly. These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly worse since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role. I notice that it now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this as I recall). I also have at least one other spyware program running, so wonder if I have too much of a good thing. My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it. Are there simple steps I should take to see if the problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is not able to show the Toolbar. Don't know if this is related, but in Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional. Tried to reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once did). Couldn't get this fixed, either. Don't know if this might be related to other problems. Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Should I just start uninstalling questionable software? I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things worse. I have 1 gig of memory. Should I add more? Will this magically solve everything?! :) Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
Operating system? Amount of RAM? Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000. - Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help! Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here. My Dell desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. When I click on links nothing happens. Sites don't load or only very, very slowly, hence the constipation metaphor. IE freezes up and Fire Fox (which is what I usually use) is having the above problems. Documents also open slowly. These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly worse since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role. I notice that it now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this as I recall). I also have at least one other spyware program running, so wonder if I have too much of a good thing. My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it. Are there simple steps I should take to see if the problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is not able to show the Toolbar. Don't know if this is related, but in Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional. Tried to reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once did). Couldn't get this fixed, either. Don't know if this might be related to other problems. Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Should I just start uninstalling questionable software? I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things worse. I have 1 gig of memory. Should I add more? Will this magically solve everything?! :) Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
Thanks, I am noticing that at least with IE, I can click on links and actually go to them. Long ago I had disabled the Windows firewall to use Zone Alarm's. Was that a mistake? Using XP. Randall On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Ellen Rains Harris el...@goodshiptabasco.com wrote: Operating system? Amount of RAM? Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000. - Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help! Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here. My Dell desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. When I click on links nothing happens. Sites don't load or only very, very slowly, hence the constipation metaphor. IE freezes up and Fire Fox (which is what I usually use) is having the above problems. Documents also open slowly. These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly worse since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role. I notice that it now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this as I recall). I also have at least one other spyware program running, so wonder if I have too much of a good thing. My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it. Are there simple steps I should take to see if the problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is not able to show the Toolbar. Don't know if this is related, but in Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional. Tried to reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once did). Couldn't get this fixed, either. Don't know if this might be related to other problems. Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Should I just start uninstalling questionable software? I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things worse. I have 1 gig of memory. Should I add more? Will this magically solve everything?! :) Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Ranbo wrote: My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it. Are there simple steps I should take to see if the problem(s) get better? 1) Start up in Safe Mode (with networking) and see if the problem goes away. 2) Bookmark a site and see if that performs differently than typing its URL. 3) Access a site that is giving you problems using its IP address instead of its URL. 3) Ping some websites to see if the round trip time makes sense. Does URL vs IP address act differently? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Ranbo wrote: Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Hardly, even a PC can be saved and shown the way of righteousness. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
*Thanks for the tips. PC and I both can use salvation.* ** On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:13 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Ranbo wrote: Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Hardly, even a PC can be saved and shown the way of righteousness. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!
Uninstall the whole virus package you installed, turn windows firewall back on for some protection and see if that improves things. If so, google the symptoms related to that software. Sometimes security packages go wrong... db Ellen Rains Harris wrote: Operating system? Amount of RAM? Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000. - Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help! Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here. My Dell desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. When I click on links nothing happens. Sites don't load or only very, very slowly, hence the constipation metaphor. IE freezes up and Fire Fox (which is what I usually use) is having the above problems. Documents also open slowly. These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly worse since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role. I notice that it now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this as I recall). I also have at least one other spyware program running, so wonder if I have too much of a good thing. My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it. Are there simple steps I should take to see if the problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is not able to show the Toolbar. Don't know if this is related, but in Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional. Tried to reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once did). Couldn't get this fixed, either. Don't know if this might be related to other problems. Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are breaking down and it looks terminal?? Should I just start uninstalling questionable software? I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things worse. I have 1 gig of memory. Should I add more? Will this magically solve everything?! :) Thanks as always Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
