[CGUYS] InfoWorld on Win7 UI
From the MS lapdogs over at InfoWorld: Windows 7 drives a wedge of innovation into the heart of the Save XP camp It's true: Windows 7 will drive the single biggest renaissance in Windows application design since the debut of Windows 95 nearly 15 years ago. ... As I pored over the various examples of Jump List variations and animated Taskbar icon overlays, it struck me just how much the Windows UI has evolved with Windows 7. For the first time in recent memory, I'm actually excited at the prospect of seeing how third-party developers exploit the myriad new conventions. http://infoworld.com/d/windows/windows-7-drives-wedge-innovation-heart-save-xp-camp-861 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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As the owner/user of half a dozen networked XP machines that date back quite a few years and have half to one meg of ram and under 2 MHz processors, I have to ask myself what advantage there is of Win7 over XP. I am not a gamer or need to deal with video files; I don't watch TV on my PC (or even on the TV for that matter), and my main use for the computers is Email, Web surfing, some light document preparation and reading, as well as the handling of images from my digital camera. As a retiree, why should I be forced to upgrade from XP to Win7, especially if it means replacing some/all of my machines (that now work just fine) with brand news ones at considerable expense and time, plus the hassle of moving files over, buying upgrades to existing applications (if they are even available), replacing hardware that may not have new drivers, etc? I am not on a crusade or anything, I am just curious as to the rationale for such an upgrade. Mike Chris Dunford wrote: From the MS lapdogs over at InfoWorld: Windows 7 drives a wedge of innovation into the heart of the Save XP camp It's true: Windows 7 will drive the single biggest renaissance in Windows application design since the debut of Windows 95 nearly 15 years ago. ... As I pored over the various examples of Jump List variations and animated Taskbar icon overlays, it struck me just how much the Windows UI has evolved with Windows 7. For the first time in recent memory, I'm actually excited at the prospect of seeing how third-party developers exploit the myriad new conventions. http://infoworld.com/d/windows/windows-7-drives-wedge-innovation-heart-save-xp-camp-861 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] InfoWorld on Win7 UI
As the owner/user of half a dozen networked XP machines that date back quite a few years and have half to one meg of ram and under 2 MHz processors, I have to ask myself what advantage there is of Win7 over XP. I am not a gamer or need to deal with video files; I don't watch TV on my PC (or even on the TV for that matter), and my main use for the computers is Email, Web surfing, some light document preparation and reading, as well as the handling of images from my digital camera. If XP is handling everything for you, then why upgrade? XP SP3 is being supported for 5 more years. You don't run as admin on these machines, right? As a retiree, why should I be forced to upgrade from XP to Win7, especially if it means replacing some/all of my machines (that now work just fine) with brand news ones at considerable expense and time, plus the hassle of moving files over, buying upgrades to existing applications (if they are even available), replacing hardware that may not have new drivers, etc? Who is forcing you to upgrade? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Jeff Wright wrote: As the owner/user of half a dozen networked XP machines snip If XP is handling everything for you, then why upgrade? XP SP3 is being supported for 5 more years. You don't run as admin on these machines, right? No, of course not - I have user accounts on all of them and use them. For the machine that I use for a print server, I don't even log into it, except for occasionally checking for MS security updates. As a retiree, why should I be forced to upgrade from XP to Win7snip? Who is forcing you to upgrade? I guess forced was the wrong word and probably should have been omitted from the sentence. It just seems that there is considerable marketing pressure on people like me to upgrade. And I find that unfortunate. The reality is that, if these machines are still chugging along in 5 years but support becomes a problem, I will just move over to Linux, which seems to be improving daily. I have a couple of machines running the latest version of Ubuntu, and I am very happy with that. (By the way, none of these machines were purchased - they are all hand-me-downs or rescued from various dumpsters during town cleanup days that I run.) Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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As a retiree, why should I be forced to upgrade from XP to Win7 Mike, no one's forcing you to upgrade. Win7 is much nicer and easier to work with than XP, and far more secure, but if you're satisfied with what you have, that's fine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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At 10:35 AM -0400 7/29/09, Jeff Wright wrote: [snip] As a retiree, why should I be forced to upgrade from XP to Win7, especially if it means replacing some/all of my machines (that now work just fine) with brand news ones at considerable expense and time, plus the hassle of moving files over, buying upgrades to existing applications (if they are even available), replacing hardware that may not have new drivers, etc? Who is forcing you to upgrade? The only reason to upgrade either Mac or Windows is if an application you need to run, or some hardware you need to use is not supported on the old operating system. Most of my upgrades, on both Mac and Windows, have been when I bought new machines that came pre-loaded with the latest OS. My wife's PC went from Windows 95 (!) to XP when we replaced the machine. My iBook - MacBook replacement took me from Panther (10.4) to Leopard (10.5). -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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If you're actually asking, and not just ranting, I'll answer. The biggest changes are important primarily for internet users, and have to do with security. In WinXP and before, your account has full administrative privileges, meaning so do any attackers. This has been corrected in Vista and Win7. You _can_ run with lower privs in WinXP, but it's not easy. The newer video codecs being used on the web may require a better video card, but should still work fine in XP. No games are yet slated to require anything but XP. Nobody's forcing you to do anything now. But when you do get a new computer, you don't want one with an outdated OS on it. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Mike Sloanemikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: As the owner/user of half a dozen networked XP machines that date back quite a few years and have half to one meg of ram and under 2 MHz processors, I have to ask myself what advantage there is of Win7 over XP. I am not a gamer or need to deal with video files; I don't watch TV on my PC (or even on the TV for that matter), and my main use for the computers is Email, Web surfing, some light document preparation and reading, as well as the handling of images from my digital camera. As a retiree, why should I be forced to upgrade from XP to Win7 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I guess forced was the wrong word and probably should have been omitted from the sentence. It just seems that there is considerable marketing pressure on people like me to upgrade. Well, yeah, you aren't making them any money being content and efficient like that! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
