Re: [CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement
i disagree. some things are higher. some are an excellent value. high end men's shoes xerox consumables faucets power boats boat parts some software can all be excellent value. lot of stuff, like power tools, computers, are lousy values there are also a lot of scams now on ebay. ebay polices, but as i wrote earlier, a person can create(hijak?) a personality, and list a nonexistint item. usually in the $2-8000 range. lots of ATV's, golf carts, and heavy equipment show up phony. (maybe its the wheels). At 11:00 AM 8/26/2008, you wrote: Good points. I have participated in eBay auctions but the final sale price was NEVER what I would call reasonable. Sometimes the eBay price is 50% less. Those are happy buys. Recently I'm seeing much higher prices. Sometimes I thing the buyer would have been better off buying retail. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement
Of course, this is an absurd way to run an auction. No RL auction would ever take that $51 bid without asking for more. Seems like there should be a simple way to solve the problem via software, such as extending an auction if a bid is received within the last x seconds. EBay should pay you money for that idea. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I think what you're missing is this: snipers would useless if everyone bid their maximum, but a lot of people don't. They just enter a bid that's a little higher than the current bid and come back later if they're outbid. So sniping is a way to use inefficiencies in the auction process to sometimes win an auction that otherwise would have been lost. It works by denying others the time to think about raising their bid. Okay. Well explained. I accept that. Thanks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Because when you enter a bid, anyone can manually outbid you, as long as he has time. The earlier you do it, the more time people have to manually outbid. If you do it at the last second, no one has time and only automatic bids can outbid you. If you really bid the maximum you were willing to pay then you should not care that someone outbid you. That item was just too rich for you and you should happily let it go by. If you did not bid the maximum you were willing to pay and therefore lost the auction you should have your head examined. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Good points. I have participated in eBay auctions but the final sale price was NEVER what I would call reasonable. Sometimes the eBay price is 50% less. Those are happy buys. Recently I'm seeing much higher prices. Sometimes I thing the buyer would have been better off buying retail. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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It all depends on the item,. I have noticed some companies are using Ebay to sell refurbished items. Also some other companies are using Ebay to sell restocked items they cannot sell on the shelf. Stewart At 10:00 AM 8/26/2008, you wrote: Sometimes the eBay price is 50% less. Those are happy buys. Recently I'm seeing much higher prices. Sometimes I thing the buyer would have been better off buying retail. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Okay. Well explained. I accept that. Thanks. Sorry, didn't get this until after previous message already sent... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Because when you enter a bid, anyone can manually outbid you, as long as he has time. The earlier you do it, the more time people have to manually outbid. If you do it at the last second, no one has time and only automatic bids can outbid you. If you really bid the maximum you were willing to pay then you should not care that someone outbid you. That item was just too rich for you and you should happily let it go by. If you did not bid the maximum you were willing to pay and therefore lost the auction you should have your head examined. Didn't you read the example? I *did* win the item. I paid *less* than my maximum. I saved $40 over what would have happened if I had simply bid my maximum. And this isn't hypothetical: I've won auctions in exactly this way, and so have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of other people. Bidding your maximum makes no sense unless you aren't going to be around and can't do anything better. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Didn't you read the example? I *did* win the item. I paid *less* than my maximum. I saved $40 over what would have happened if I had simply bid my maximum. And this isn't hypothetical: I've won auctions in exactly this way, and so have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of other people. How do you know you saved $40 over what would have happened? I don't think there is any way for you to determine that. Maybe you saves $40 over what your maximum bid would have been. That is all you know. What happens when several people are sniping at the same auction? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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i just got this answer from a real person at eSnipe: The problem was that when you updated your bidding password on one of our servers our system did not update your status on our alternate server. I have done this for you now. eBay has verified your bidding information on both servers and our system has updated your status to Valid once again. 6 months to finally figure out the problem?? surely i was not the only one with whatever the problem was. i was also validated with prior corrections. At 09:28 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: i have used eSnipe for a couple three years. about 6 months ago, i started to get log on errors for my bids from them. eBay Username or Password Problem eBay reports that the password or username you provided is not valid. It is too late for this bid, but you can fix it before your next bid. The most this is not correct. the error has occurred at least 10 times. when they test for me it works, when they bid for me, it does not work. they send canned replies. i have even done cut and paste to make certain the ebay and the eSnipe username/password are the same. no sense talking to a computer. who else does eSniping? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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i don't know what is an RL auction. there are many types of auctions. this eBay system is one of the common ones. each auction i have ever been to has had a set of rules, but there does not seem to be a standard set of rules. At 11:48 PM 8/24/2008, you wrote: Of course, this is an absurd way to run an auction. No RL auction would ever take that $51 bid without asking for more. Seems like there should be a simple way to solve the problem via software, such as extending an auction if a bid is received within the last x seconds. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sniper way: I don't put in my maximum bid. Instead, I tell my sniper that I'm willing to pay up to $100. For now, the clock just ticks. Nothing happens. Harvey is fat happy because he thinks he's getting his heirloom for fifty bucks. But 10 seconds before the close, my sniper jumps in and bids $51. I still win, but I saved $40 because Harvey didn't have time to outbid me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, this is an absurd way to run an auction. No RL auction would ever take that $51 bid without asking for more. Seems like there should be a simple way to solve the problem via software, such as extending an auction if a bid is received within the last x seconds. Yep, I like the idea of an auction that extend time for five minutes after the last bid. One of the lesser auction services is reported to do something like this but I don't remember which one. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sniper way: I don't put in my maximum bid. Instead, I tell my sniper that I'm willing to pay up to $100. For now, the clock just ticks. Nothing happens. Harvey is fat happy because he thinks he's getting his heirloom for fifty bucks. But 10 seconds before the close, my sniper jumps in and bids $51. I still win, but I saved $40 because Harvey didn't have time to outbid me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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rasmus.com has the 5 minute extension. but while at it, why not complain about the minimum next allowable bid being to large or small. in most online auctions that i have seen, the next allowable minimum bid gets larger as the price goes up. in most live auctions i have attended for real estate, automobiles, and antiques, the size of the increment is reduced as the price goes up. i have seen the auctioneer refuse to take a higher bid that has been reduced too much. At 08:41 AM 8/25/2008, you wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, this is an absurd way to run an auction. No RL auction would ever take that $51 bid without asking for more. Seems like there should be a simple way to solve the problem via software, such as extending an auction if a bid is received within the last x seconds. Yep, I like the idea of an auction that extend time for five minutes after the last bid. One of the lesser auction services is reported to do something like this but I don't remember which one. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sniper way: I don't put in my maximum bid. Instead, I tell my sniper that I'm willing to pay up to $100. For now, the clock just ticks. Nothing happens. Harvey is fat happy because he thinks he's getting his heirloom for fifty bucks. But 10 seconds before the close, my sniper jumps in and bids $51. I still win, but I saved $40 because Harvey didn't have time to outbid me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Ebay's system is the way it is. I would not want it to change, as I do not want to sit there watching bidding all the time. Snipe systems allow you to last second bid and possibly get an item for a better price. Too often I have seen an item I would like get snatched from me as I had a bid that held till the last second and I happened to be away from my computer at that time. (Some of us have to work for a living and that does not include sitting in front of a computer all day long.) With a firm cut off time it makes it more likely that a snipe program will assist in getting the auctions you want. As I said I use it only occasionally for an item I really want, and have usually attempted to get with out the snipe program. By the way I use the free Hammersnipe. You can buy a much closer snipe time if you want, but I have no desire to spend extra money on an auction. Stewart At 08:58 AM 8/25/2008, you wrote: rasmus.com has the 5 minute extension. but while at it, why not complain about the minimum next allowable bid being to large or small. in most online auctions that i have seen, the next allowable minimum bid gets larger as the price goes up. in most live auctions i have attended for real estate, automobiles, and antiques, the size of the increment is reduced as the price goes up. i have seen the auctioneer refuse to take a higher bid that has been reduced too much. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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What an interesting response. Sometimes I forget I'm living with a couple generations that have grown up online, and have very probably never even been to a Real Life auction. They think the Ebay way is the way auctions work. If you've actually been to some rl auctions, and they've all had different rules, can you tell us if you've ever been to one where the auctioneer used a timer and whoever placed the last bid before the bell rang won the item? Even if other people were bidding? I've just never heard of any such nonsense until Ebay came along and seemed to base their software around an absolute timer. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:55 AM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't know what is an RL auction. there are many types of auctions. this eBay system is one of the common ones. each auction i have ever been to has had a set of rules, but there does not seem to be a standard set of rules. At 11:48 PM 8/24/2008, you wrote: Of course, this is an absurd way to run an auction. No RL auction would ever take that $51 bid without asking for more. Seems like there should be a simple way to solve the problem via software, such as extending an auction if a bid is received within the last x seconds. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Having been to a few earl life auctions I know how they work. Ebay is not to simulate a real life auction. It is an auction venue. If you are going to knock it come up with another site that is as popular and makes as much money as theirs does. You may not think it operates as a real life Auction (And it does not) but it has made a boat load of money for it's founders. Stewart At 09:38 AM 8/25/2008, you wrote: What an interesting response. Sometimes I forget I'm living with a couple generations that have grown up online, and have very probably never even been to a Real Life auction. They think the Ebay way is the way auctions work. If you've actually been to some rl auctions, and they've all had different rules, can you tell us if you've ever been to one where the auctioneer used a timer and whoever placed the last bid before the bell rang won the item? Even if other people were bidding? I've just never heard of any such nonsense until Ebay came along and seemed to base their software around an absolute timer. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement
I use MYIBAY which has a Firefox addon or a standalone. A useful feature is sniping for (any) one (or other #) of multiple targets. The first satisfaction of # winning bids ends the sniping. _ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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i should also point out to you that a very large number of these auctions end at 9 or 10pm..pacific time. i am a very elderly person living in gmt-5. i am long in bed when these auctions end. We've been using online auctions since there were online auctions. It was fun when there weren't many people bidding. I've seen people get so much stuff because it's a good deal or in the excitement of bidding [then overpaying] that I don't use auctions much any more. I especially avoid anything collectible. There are so many eBay stores with Buy It Now prices better than ending auction prices, and other sites with great prices. Sometimes when you lose, it's in your favor, so you don't collect so much more stuff. What's so important to buy that you can't find a deal elsewhere, or don't really need it? Wanna buy my extra stuff on eBay? Betty --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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- Original Message - From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement I still don't get it. eBay already lets you enter a maximum price, but the winning bid is set by the second highest price plus the auction's increment. I worry about a shill running up the bid to eke my 'hidden' bid out into the open. Last second bidding forgoes this worry. I often bid a conservative amount, and come back at the last minute to bump it up just a little more and win the item. Sometimes the conservative bid is good enough. When I shop on Ebay, the item usually is not 'mission critical'. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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/snip/ can you tell us if you've ever been to one where the auctioneer used a timer and whoever placed the last bid before the bell rang won the item? Even if other people were bidding? /snip/ Charitable organizations have run silent auctions -- items are displayed on tables while people mingle and browse, bids for an item are written down sequentially by individual participants, and bidding closes at a fixed time, typically for a category of items. Only the last valid bid on each item counts. As time counts down for a popular item, there may be a struggle for the pencil! Also, Wikipedia's entry on auctions describes some types/variations. -Andy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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b_s-wilk wrote: There are so many eBay stores with Buy It Now prices better than ending auction prices, and other sites with great prices. Betty --- Agreed. I always search for a good price from a source other than eBay, and many times I can find one that is sells the same item cheaper than the final eBay price. There are two things to be said however. On eBay, running up the price just seconds before the auction closes is a way of getting a better price than one could by bidding earlier with a high bid in the hope that other bidders will not exceed that bid by successive bidding. Second, I am a veteran of real auctions so that I know how to bid within reason. I collect a very select kind of item that usually sell between $2000 to $2 per item, and I am knowledgeable about the item. During the viewing, I inspect each item in detail and assign a maximum value to the item. During bidding, I will never go above the maximum and never regret losing an item if the bidding exceeds my price since I know the successful bidder, other than me, has overpaid. (But you can't believe the tricks that some bidders will do to prevent a fair auction. Rather than complain about the cheater, I will collude with the auctioneer and with the honest bidders at the next auction to shut out the cheater.) I believe my auction experience makes me a better bargainer for everyday items that are negotiable in price. It is wise to remember that another bargain is coming if you pass up the current bargain. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement
There are two things to be said however. On eBay, running up the price just seconds before the auction closes is a way of getting a better price than one could by bidding earlier with a high bid in the hope that other bidders will not exceed that bid by successive bidding. Second, I am a veteran of real auctions so that I know how to bid within reason. I collect a very select kind of item that usually sell between $2000 to $2 per item, and I am knowledgeable about the item. Good points. I have participated in eBay auctions but the final sale price was NEVER what I would call reasonable. I'll mention that I've never succumbed to a bidding frenzy. I'm not really a collector but hey, when you need that particular part and it's not made anymore, well. I've found that it's sometimes better to look at another man's junk and make an offer than to bid for another man's treasure. Knowing what you're looking at, and having a purpose in mind, makes the difference between blind accumulation and directed acquisition. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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My goodness! 8) I've found that it's sometimes better to look at another man's junk and make an offer than to bid for another man's treasure. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I do some upgrades though Ebay. I try not to buy phones from the cell company. Every now and then we upgrade when they have a deal. But otherwise we have bought and sold phones on Ebay. Some electronic equipment is OK too. I usually buy last years model of stuff and Ebay is a nice place to get it. But you have to be smart and cautious. Stewart At 09:14 PM 8/25/2008, you wrote: My goodness! 8) Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement
i have used eSnipe for a couple three years. about 6 months ago, i started to get log on errors for my bids from them. eBay Username or Password Problem eBay reports that the password or username you provided is not valid. It is too late for this bid, but you can fix it before your next bid. The most this is not correct. the error has occurred at least 10 times. when they test for me it works, when they bid for me, it does not work. they send canned replies. i have even done cut and paste to make certain the ebay and the eSnipe username/password are the same. no sense talking to a computer. who else does eSniping? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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no sense talking to a computer. who else does eSniping? I can't answer that, but I do have a questions that I think others on the list may be asking too... Can you tell us why eSniping is even necessary. Doesn't eBay provide all the facilities you need to complete a successful bid? I have bought many things from eBay and never thought I needed somebody helping me do it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Try Hammer snipe. What sniping does is make it possible to do a last second bid to a higher amount without sitting there and watching the auction. I use it when I know I might not be available when the auction is coming to a close. There have been quite a few auctions I have lost when a bid is made in the last second that just beats mine by .50 or a dollar. A snipe program can be programmed to the last seconds (last 10 seconds of a bid) to automatically place a bid for you at a predetermined price. Handy not always necessary but can make the difference between getting what you want at the price level you want and having to sit there and monitor an auction all day long. Stewart At 10:39 AM 8/24/2008, you wrote: no sense talking to a computer. who else does eSniping? I can't answer that, but I do have a questions that I think others on the list may be asking too... Can you tell us why eSniping is even necessary. Doesn't eBay provide all the facilities you need to complete a successful bid? I have bought many things from eBay and never thought I needed somebody helping me do it. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Handy not always necessary but can make the difference between getting what you want at the price level you want and having to sit there and monitor an auction all day long. I still don't get it. eBay already lets you enter a maximum price, but the winning bid is set by the second highest price plus the auction's increment. Thus if the auction's increment is $1, you bid $60, and the second highest bidder bids $50, you win for $51. This happens automatically and very quickly, since it is built into the eBay program. Why use a third party to mess up something that works perfectly well as it is? If you are mad that you lost an auction by 50¢, why did you not bid properly in the first place? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I still don't get it. eBay already lets you enter a maximum price, but the winning bid is set by the second highest price plus the auction's increment. Because when you enter a bid, anyone can manually outbid you, as long as he has time. The earlier you do it, the more time people have to manually outbid. If you do it at the last second, no one has time and only automatic bids can outbid you. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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tom, i have been to many an auction where bidding fever takes over. if he is willing to pay at least one million dollars(lets be serious), i decide i am willing to pay 1mil,10and 20 and thirty, etc clear up to two million, because did not someone else think the item worth that much. if you look at bid histories, you will see many cases where some person(usually with a rating of 2 or 4 or 0) bids 10 times in the last two minutes. this is called auction fever. it can be complete avoided if one puts in a bid with 6 seconds left. i first realized the existence of auction fever probably before you were born. i sat next to a friend(a major antiques dealer) at an antiques auction at thieves market in 1962. she sat there and kept saying should i, should i. she kept bidding until it hurt. that was when i realized the value of jump bids. there is also value with the eSnipe because then i keep those idiots out. i know what i am willing to pay, but there is a very good chance that the other guy would never be willing to spend my price plus that extra 20-30 thousand, other than the fact that i bid the first mil. regards jer At 01:57 PM 8/24/2008, you wrote: Handy not always necessary but can make the difference between getting what you want at the price level you want and having to sit there and monitor an auction all day long. I still don't get it. eBay already lets you enter a maximum price, but the winning bid is set by the second highest price plus the auction's increment. Thus if the auction's increment is $1, you bid $60, and the second highest bidder bids $50, you win for $51. This happens automatically and very quickly, since it is built into the eBay program. Why use a third party to mess up something that works perfectly well as it is? If you are mad that you lost an auction by 50¢, why did you not bid properly in the first place? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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i should also point out to you that a very large number of these auctions end at 9 or 10pm..pacific time. i am a very elderly person living in gmt-5. i am long in bed when these auctions end. still jer At 01:57 PM 8/24/2008, you wrote: Handy not always necessary but can make the difference between getting what you want at the price level you want and having to sit there and monitor an auction all day long. I still don't get it. eBay already lets you enter a maximum price, but the winning bid is set by the second highest price plus the auction's increment. Thus if the auction's increment is $1, you bid $60, and the second highest bidder bids $50, you win for $51. This happens automatically and very quickly, since it is built into the eBay program. Why use a third party to mess up something that works perfectly well as it is? If you are mad that you lost an auction by 50¢, why did you not bid properly in the first place? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement
No eSnipe still doesn't make any sense to me. I think what you're missing is this: snipers would useless if everyone bid their maximum, but a lot of people don't. They just enter a bid that's a little higher than the current bid and come back later if they're outbid. Suppose I've decided that I will pay up to $100 for a Hillary for President pin. Harvey wants it too. He's willing to pay up to $90. He never puts in his maximum bid. The current bid is his at $50. Your way: I put in my maximum bid. The price keeps going up as Harvey drops by and outbids me, and my autobid outbids him. In the end I win, but I pay $91 or whatever. The sniper way: I don't put in my maximum bid. Instead, I tell my sniper that I'm willing to pay up to $100. For now, the clock just ticks. Nothing happens. Harvey is fat happy because he thinks he's getting his heirloom for fifty bucks. But 10 seconds before the close, my sniper jumps in and bids $51. I still win, but I saved $40 because Harvey didn't have time to outbid me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement
Of course, this is an absurd way to run an auction. No RL auction would ever take that $51 bid without asking for more. Seems like there should be a simple way to solve the problem via software, such as extending an auction if a bid is received within the last x seconds. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sniper way: I don't put in my maximum bid. Instead, I tell my sniper that I'm willing to pay up to $100. For now, the clock just ticks. Nothing happens. Harvey is fat happy because he thinks he's getting his heirloom for fifty bucks. But 10 seconds before the close, my sniper jumps in and bids $51. I still win, but I saved $40 because Harvey didn't have time to outbid me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
