Re: [Cooker] LSB conf

[Thomas M. Beaudry`]

The home page is http://www.linuxbase.org/ according to which, Mandrake is a
member.

[Cooker] kernel is broken

[Geoffrey Lee]

Yo,

looks like that AC broke the 2.2.16 kernel after some security fixes, can we
apply the following fixs see:


http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/06/11/960780353.html

thanks, cu

Geoff

Re: [Cooker] 7.1 install of XFree86 4.0 fails

[Benjamin Reed]

> Got the same problem, with a voodoo3 card.
> Launching startx resulted in :
> This should not happen! An unresolved function was called!
>
>
> Hmmm... I have a Voodoo3-2000 PCI and a Mystique PCI as the second
head.
>
> It didn't seem to detect it automagically.


I had some issues with XFree86 4.0 and Xinerama as well.  I got it
working by doing `XFree86 -configure` -- it detected both my TNT2 card
and my Voodoo3 card.  All I had to do to go multihead then was add the
'"Screen0" RightOf "Screen1"' thing in the ServerLayout section (I found
the info in the Xinerama HOWTO on LDP --
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO.html is where it's at).

Now everything's groovy.  :)

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Re: [Cooker] 7.1 install of XFree86 4.0 fails

[Guillaume Rousse]

Also sprach Hoyt :
> - Original Message -
> From: "Guillaume Rousse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] 7.1 install of XFree86 4.0 fails
> 
> 
> Got the same problem, with a voodoo3 card.
> Launching startx resulted in :
> This should not happen! An unresolved function was called!
> 
> 
> Hmmm... I have a Voodoo3-2000 PCI and a Mystique PCI as the second head.
> 
> It didn't seem to detect it automagically.
> 
> Hoyt
No, and the install programm found instead this S3Trio3D crap on this dreadly
i810 Motherboard --)
But XFree probes successfully the voodoo at startup :
(II) TDFX: Driver for 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 chipsets: 3dfx Banshee,
3dfx Voodoo3
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(--) Chipset 3dfx Voodoo3 found
So, i think the problem is rather something missing than just a detection
problem.


 -- 
Guillaume Rousse
Iremia - Université de la Réunion

Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.

[Cooker] Screen goes blank

[Alan Shoemaker]

On Friday I installed the 7.1 release version.  In Display
properties the screen saver is set to 'No Screensaver' but
when I leave the computer and come back after a while the
screen has been blanked (all black) out.  Is there anothe
setting at work somewhere?  How can this behavior be changed?

Alan

Re: [Cooker] 7.1 install of XFree86 4.0 fails

[Hoyt]

- Original Message -
From: "Guillaume Rousse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] 7.1 install of XFree86 4.0 fails


Got the same problem, with a voodoo3 card.
Launching startx resulted in :
This should not happen! An unresolved function was called!


Hmmm... I have a Voodoo3-2000 PCI and a Mystique PCI as the second head.

It didn't seem to detect it automagically.

Hoyt

RE: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Geoffrey Lee]

  > for everyone
> > to know WHERE FILES STAYED and MUST STAYING !
> > So let us follow that.
> > Now there is already a difference between distributions, so
> > if will
> > Mandrake go this way up also ??
>
> I read somewhere that there will be a conf about Linux Standard Base
> It will be a good thingn if Mandrakesoft participe.
>
> > Eric
>



yep


i don't know what is a base system util but requires readline (other than
bash)

so maybe it is good to static link bash and then move it back to /usr/lib ??


p.s. rh has theirs in /usr/lib





> --
> Thomas Poindessous
> EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.epita.fr/~epx
>

[Cooker] LSB conf

[Diablero]

Ok, I just have found the link:

http://lwn.net/2000/0608/a/deb-dwarf.html


-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Diablero]

On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 12:14:47AM +0200, Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Someone heart about 'Linux Filesystem Structure' ??
> It's somewhat outdated (1995) I now, but it's the only way
> for everyone
> to know WHERE FILES STAYED and MUST STAYING !
> So let us follow that.
> Now there is already a difference between distributions, so
> if will
> Mandrake go this way up also ??

I read somewhere that there will be a conf about Linux Standard Base
It will be a good thingn if Mandrakesoft participe.

> Eric

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Re: [Cooker] Mdk71 - Desktop Icons / Keyboard Problem

[Andre Steden]

On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 10:01:45PM +0200, Pablo Saratxaga wrote:
> > What must i change to make DEL send ^[[3~ with the Gnome Terminal ?
> 
> That may be on the sources...
> It's true that while ^? (a DEL char) is problematic on Linux, 
> ^[[3~ (A delete next char ANSI escape sequence) doesn't have such problems.
> I'll ask to the gnome-terminal author if ^[[3~ can't be sent instead.
> 
Hello Pablo,

can you take a look at RedHat 6.2 ? There are no problems with the
keys in the gnome-terminal!

bye
--
Andre Steden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[Cooker] Small interface problems with install

[Guillaume Rousse]

Some problems i encountered while installing, and i already saw in the 7.0, so
maybe they're worth to be corrected next time.

Network configuration :
subnet mask reinitialising to 255.0.0.0 every time you got the focus on the
field
gateway field could be already initialised with a value guessed from
adress and subnet mask, or at least checked for coherency with the mask
proxy configuration does not clearly show that protocol is waited before the
adress, and missing it result to restart again all the configuration. Just
initalising these fields with http:// and ftp:// would be enough.

X configuration :
I often lost my mouse (microsoft PS2 intellimouse) after X server test, so i
had to finish with keyboard only.

Elseway, where is the famous theme-choice for the installer :-) ?
-- 
Guillaume Rousse
Iremia - Université de la Réunion

Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> 
> > > > > > pygnome
> > > > > > pygtk
> > > > > > python
> > > > > > python-devel
> > > > > > pythonlib
> > > > > > rpm-devel
> > > > > > tkinter
> >
> > > > > yuck.
> > > > ah... if it's a one-time-thing then it's no problem.
> > > > I wouldn't like to see people flip-flopping from /usr/lib
> > > > to /lib and back to /usr/lib a few times...
> >
> > > umm, recompile with symlinks in /usr/lib ? ;)
> >
> > go ahead... ;-)
> >
> > Hmmm... things are getting ugly.
> >
> > I'm in the process of recompiling the packages above, and the
> > results are not nice. They compile fine, but when you try to
> > install them:
> >
> > rpm -Uvh guile-*
> > error: failed dependencies:
> > libreadline.so.4.1 is needed by guile-1.3.4-3mdk
> >
> > and this is for all of them.
> >
> > Maybe I'm st*p*d or terribly dumb, but my impression is that
> > this is looking 'ugly'.
> >
> 
> can you create the symlinks in the readline spec spec and ercompile to see
> what happens?? this might fix stuff. i.e. symlinks in /usr/lib.
> 
> please please please, no one should move readline back to /usr/lib just
> because a whole bunch of shit si complaining ...
> 
> i awnt to take a look now but i'm tired ...
Hi,
Someone heart about 'Linux Filesystem Structure' ??
It's somewhat outdated (1995) I now, but it's the only way
for everyone
to know WHERE FILES STAYED and MUST STAYING !
So let us follow that.
Now there is already a difference between distributions, so
if will
Mandrake go this way up also ??
Eric

Re: [Cooker] 7.1 install of XFree86 4.0 fails

[Guillaume Rousse]

Got the same problem, with a voodoo3 card.
Launching startx resulted in :
This should not happen! An unresolved function was called!
I can send full log if someone is interested.
XFdrake resolved the problem just by adding SVGA server, resulting an hybrid
install : two package from XFree 4, and the rest from XFree 3 !!!
I tried to upgrade every 3.3.6 package with cooker package, but it didn't
solved anything. Instead, i had corrupted fonts and no way to launch xterm.
I had to switch back to 3.3.6, using --oldpackage and --nodeps, as many of
other rpms are depending of libXxpm.so.4.
So, why such a mix of versions, with package dependants of other not present on
the CD ?

Also sprach Hoyt :
> I attempted to install XFree86 version 4.0 during my install of 7.1, but it
> failed and I have 3.3.6 instead. I have dual head running under 4.0 in my
> 7.0 install.
> 
> I noticed that there were only two 4.0 specific rpm's in 7.1 vice the many
> rpm's from cooker. I installed these and copied my XF86Config file over, but
> it will not work.
> 
> How do I now go about correctly installing 4.0 in Mandrake 7.1? Should I be
> using the cooker packages?
> 
> Hoyt
-- 
Guillaume Rousse
Iremia - Université de la Réunion

Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.

[Cooker] kernel-2.2.16-2mdk.i586.rpm

[Phil Wheeler]

H

[root@wheee ph]# rpm -U kernel-2.2.16-2mdk.i586.rpm
cat: invalid option -- c
Try `cat --help' for more information.
cp: 2.2.16-2mdk: No such file or directory
Added dos
Added floppy
read /boot/vmlinuz: No such file or directory
execution of script failed


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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake problems

[Diablero]

On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 05:34:37PM -0400, Patrick Poncet wrote:
> Hello all!
> 
> Just thought I'd report a problem with rpmdrake just in case someone either ran
> into it or has a workaround (or both :))).
> 
> Whenever I add a new location (ftp, cdrom or local), rpmdrake stops on generating
> depencies list leaving appearently inactive bot not dead processes(as per "top"):
> rpmdrake, gendeplist2 and bzip2.  Any idea?!?

Another problem with gendeplist2. Maybe it would be rewritten with Perl-RPM ?
http://www.blackperl.com/Perl-RPM/
 
> By the way, congratulations on Mandrake 7.1, it's just getting better and better
> all the time, and cooker really is helpful and beneficial.  Is it French too???
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> ---
> Patrick Poncet
> Network/Systems Analyst
> Vaxxine Computer Systems Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.vaxxine.com

-- 
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EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita
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[Cooker] rpmdrake problems

[Patrick Poncet]

Hello all!
Just thought I'd report a problem with rpmdrake just in case someone
either ran into it or has a workaround (or both :))).
Whenever I add a new location (ftp, cdrom or local), rpmdrake stops
on generating depencies list leaving appearently inactive bot not dead
processes(as per "top"): rpmdrake, gendeplist2 and bzip2.  Any idea?!?
By the way, congratulations on Mandrake 7.1, it's just getting better
and better all the time, and cooker really is helpful and beneficial. 
Is it French too???
Patrick
 
---
Patrick Poncet
Network/Systems Analyst
Vaxxine Computer Systems Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.vaxxine.com

Re: [Cooker] help with install or upgrade

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

"John R. Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> OK,
> 
> Why do I get the following error when I try to install or upgrade to 7.1:
> 
> 
> "An error occured
> Can't take sqrt of -0.37678"
> 
> What in the world does this mean.  I just want to install 7.1?

I suppose it did not find any package at all.


Many times several people reported this problem, but I still don't know if
it has been identified/solved in our installer. At the beginning I thought
it was coming frpm people downloading and making their own (failing)
hdlists/depslists, but it seems that also there are people with ISO that
get this error.

Is there something to cope with not detecting a valid disk device for
install (happens to people with big disks it seems) ?


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau

Re: [Cooker] Mdk71 - Desktop Icons / Keyboard Problem

[Pablo Saratxaga]

Kaixo!

On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 11:52:39PM +0200, Andre Steden wrote:

> > Gnome works a bit differently than KDE.
> > 
> > floppy and cdrom should automatically be created by gmc on its first run.
> 
> Hello Pablo,
> 
> i can't get them... restarted gmc, still no icons for floppy and cdrom!

They are created the *first* time you run gmc.
So you have either to delete all .gnome-desktop (but that will delete
all your other icons too).
Or you can easily create them, open a terminal and type:


cd ~/.gnome-desktop
ln -s /mnt/floppy floppy
ln -s /mnt/DOS_hda1 "My Windows disk"
ln -s /mnt/cdrom cdrom

etc. for anything on /mnt, the link name (the "floppy", "My Windows disk" etc
part of the commands above) can be anything (use quotes for special chars),
and can be in your language. Those strings will be what is displayed as icon
texts.

Then, click with right button on desktop and ask for re-read desktop icons
(or something like that). the new icons will appear; now you have to put
nice icons that fit you, click with right button on the icons and choose
whatever you like.


> > > The Del key works as backspace with the gnome-terminal. 
> > 
> > Open Settings -> Preferences dialog then check/uncheck the entry
> > "Swap DEL/Backspace".
> 
> there is no difference with checked/unchecked Swap DEL/Backspace entry.
> DEL still works as Backspace... ;-(

Ah... I misread it (I touhth it was BS working as Del...)
In the console how does Del work ? 

> KDE Console works correct. 
> I have tried to check what Backspace and DEL sends. I pressed Ctrl-V and
> then Backspace, DEL :
>   BackspaceDEL
> Linux Console :   ^?   ^[[3~
> Gnome Terminal with
> unchecked Swap DEL/Backspace entry :  ^H   ^?
> Gnome Terminal with
> checked Swap DEL/Backspace entry :^?   ^H
> KDE Console (which works!) :  ^?   ^[[3~
> 
> What must i change to make DEL send ^[[3~ with the Gnome Terminal ?

That may be on the sources...
It's true that while ^? (a DEL char) is problematic on Linux, 
^[[3~ (A delete next char ANSI escape sequence) doesn't have such problems.
I'll ask to the gnome-terminal author if ^[[3~ can't be sent instead.

> 
> --
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Re: [Cooker] 7.1 UltraSparc List?

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

T Korte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As I understand the news posting on the Mandrake site, this mailing list will
> cover the ultrasparc port as well.  Is this correct?
> 
> I have looked through about a hundred or so messages and none of them seem to
> refer to the sparc port.  Will someone please tell me if this is the correct
> list and if it isn't, point me to the correct list?  I have tried installing
> both the 7.0 and 7.1 betas on an Ultra1 Creator and have had problems.  I'd
> like to see if I can get some info as I'd rather run Mandrake on my sparc
> instead of RH6.2 that I'm currently using.  I use Mandrake on my Athlon system
> and rather miss it on the sparc.

It is the correct list. However there is low traffic because a lot of
people are interested in the x86 version. Alpha seems to interests more
people than Sparc. But anyway, maybe a lot of people are waiting to post
their comments on the sparc port?

Please do send on this mailing list your problems related to the Sparc
port.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau

Re: [Cooker] hd.img install 526 - errors

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Neville Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> No not a bad burn. The install was obviously looking for files that were not
> part of the image. The file versions that were in the image are listed below.
> Once I installed them manually after the install everything functioned
> normally:
> 
> gnome-libs-1.0.58-1mdk.i586.rpm
> gnome-libs-devel-1.0.58-1mdk.i586.rpm
> gnumeric-0.52-3mdk.i586.rpm

okay. i thought you were installing from an iso.

this kind of stuff is common with cooker because the hdlists are quite
never in sync with the actual software versions.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau

[Cooker] uudeview

[John Johnson]

I know someone requested this one some time ago well I just uploaded it to
mandrakesoft and you can also get it from me
http://www.cyberbytesbbs.com/rpm.php3



Name: uudeview Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 0.5.13Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Sun Jun 11 12:31:27
2000
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:
linux.cyberbytesbbs.com
Group   : Utilities/FileSource RPM:
uudeview-0.5.13-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 613150   License: GPL
Packager: John Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/~fp/uudeview/
Summary : uudecode/uuencode applications
Description :
Handles uuencoding, xxencoding, and base-64 encoding (MIME).  Can do
automatic splitting of large encodes, automatic posting.  A must for
anyone serious encoding/decoding. This version for glibc only.


   John Johnson
  Administrator Cyber Bytes Online.

RE: [Cooker] Where is...?

[Jonathan Prigot]

I see, so they aren't on either of the ISO images? (BTW, it looks like the ISO
images on sunet keep changing? Am I crazy? [Don't answer that. I don't want to
know. {And neither do I!}])
---
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > XFree86-4.0 and Mozilla? I downloaded the ISO's yesterday and
> > burned them but I
> > can't seem to find either of these packages.
> 
> 
> check in contribs. the mozilla in contribs is old, currently working on a
> new spec  :)
> 
> 
> 
> > --
> > Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794)
> > Brigham and Women's Hospital
> > 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East
> > Boston, MA 02215-1213
> >
-- 
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Brigham and Women's Hospital
900 Commonwealth Avenue, East
Boston, MA 02215-1213

Re: [Cooker] bash cores on exec from tcsh under screen

[andre]

>After rebuilding bash linked with ncurses this isn't a problem, but the>stock version 
>will coredump with an untracable error (the dump loops
>somewhere in the terminal setup) when started from tcsh under
>screen.  This only appears to happen on celeron/p5 processors, the pIII's
>don't have a problem that I can find yet.
>
>-dwild
>
>
from about a week ago about half of the cookerRPM end in a core dump on my core-dump. 
Don't no exactly how to read coredumps(help appreciated). But the -vv option seems to 
indicated that it happens after D:Getting list of mounted filesystems in the RPM-file

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RE: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Geoffrey Lee]

> > > > > pygnome
> > > > > pygtk
> > > > > python
> > > > > python-devel
> > > > > pythonlib
> > > > > rpm-devel
> > > > > tkinter
>
> > > > yuck.
> > > ah... if it's a one-time-thing then it's no problem.
> > > I wouldn't like to see people flip-flopping from /usr/lib
> > > to /lib and back to /usr/lib a few times...
>
> > umm, recompile with symlinks in /usr/lib ? ;)
>
> go ahead... ;-)
>
> Hmmm... things are getting ugly.
>
> I'm in the process of recompiling the packages above, and the
> results are not nice. They compile fine, but when you try to
> install them:
>
> rpm -Uvh guile-*
> error: failed dependencies:
> libreadline.so.4.1 is needed by guile-1.3.4-3mdk
>
> and this is for all of them.
>
> Maybe I'm st*p*d or terribly dumb, but my impression is that
> this is looking 'ugly'.
>




can you create the symlinks in the readline spec spec and ercompile to see
what happens?? this might fix stuff. i.e. symlinks in /usr/lib.


please please please, no one should move readline back to /usr/lib just
because a whole bunch of shit si complaining ...



i awnt to take a look now but i'm tired ...

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Stefan van der Eijk]

> > > > gnome-pilot
> > > > gnome-pilot-devel
> > > > gnumeric
> > > > guile
> > > > guile-devel
> > > > jpilot
> > > > kpilot
> > > > netcfg
> > > > pilot-link
> > > > pilot-link-devel
> > > > postgresql
> > > > postgresql-devel
> > > > postgresql-jdbc
> > > > postgresql-odbc
> > > > postgresql-perl
> > > > postgresql-python
> > > > postgresql-server
> > > > postgresql-tcl
> > > > postgresql-test
> > > > pygnome
> > > > pygtk
> > > > python
> > > > python-devel
> > > > pythonlib
> > > > rpm-devel
> > > > tkinter

> > > yuck.
> > ah... if it's a one-time-thing then it's no problem.
> > I wouldn't like to see people flip-flopping from /usr/lib
> > to /lib and back to /usr/lib a few times...

> umm, recompile with symlinks in /usr/lib ? ;)

go ahead... ;-)

Hmmm... things are getting ugly.

I'm in the process of recompiling the packages above, and the
results are not nice. They compile fine, but when you try to 
install them:

rpm -Uvh guile-*
error: failed dependencies:
libreadline.so.4.1 is needed by guile-1.3.4-3mdk

and this is for all of them.

Maybe I'm st*p*d or terribly dumb, but my impression is that
this is looking 'ugly'.

RE: [Cooker] bash-readline real problem

[Geoffrey Lee]

uses
> > other problems.
> >
> > please -- a little attention to detail here. Bash needs to be fixed not
> > readline.
>
> Isn't it unwise to have a bash with static library's for normal use? Why




i don't see what is the problem, you might have an increse in size, but not
much. but if everything is statically link then i'd start freaking out.



> can't there exist to versions? Or why couldn't the script's before /usr is
> mounted use sash, or som other lightweight static shell?
>


AFAIK nupe not really, because init runs, then rc.sysinit runs, which is
actually a #!/bin/sh script see

#!/bin/sh
#
# /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit - run once at boot time
#
# Taken in part from Miquel van Smoorenburg's bcheckrc.
#

# Rerun ourselves through initlog
if [ -z "$IN_INITLOG" ]; then
 [ -f /sbin/initlog ] && exec /sbin/initlog $INITLOG_ARGS -r
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysini
t
fi

# Set the path
PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
export PATH

# Read in config data.
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/network ]; then
. /etc/sysconfig/network
else
NETWORKING=no


well , you know what that means ...





_and_

please read my other post, linux actually runs /bin/sh with execcve() ( and
not sash) (if it acutally works) if /etc/init /sbin/init et al fails.





> seb
>

Re: [Cooker] bash-readline real problem

[Sebastian Dransfeld]

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, jwd wrote:

> The real problem with the changes to bash and moving libreadline to /lib
> (BTW, bash requires libhistory, too) is that bash prior to 2.04-4mdk had
> both libreadline and libhistory as static links and at leat one person
> pointed out that this was a good thing.  You could always get bash going
> before this change was made.
> 
> Instead of really looking at the porblem we got a reaction to the
> symptom and someone moved readline to /lib. The problem was not with
> readline but with bash.  Now we find that moving readline to /lib causes
> other problems.
> 
> please -- a little attention to detail here. Bash needs to be fixed not
> readline.

Isn't it unwise to have a bash with static library's for normal use? Why
can't there exist to versions? Or why couldn't the script's before /usr is
mounted use sash, or som other lightweight static shell?

seb

[Fwd: [Cooker] Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Install problems / Errors]

[Troels Liebe Bentsen]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Troels Liebe Bentsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 3. Applications from "Application disks" is included in the "select
> > individual packages" list. (like StarOffice).
>
> ..if at the previous step you told the installer that you have these CD's.

I used the hd installation and I was not asked at any point!!

You did not comment on the other problem, shall i take as they are now fixed?

I know most of the problems are not possible to fix before next release, but
with
the encryption stuff you still have a chance.

On another point, is it possible for a small company to distribute any of
the  mandrake cd's?
I have written 3 letters to the [EMAIL PROTECTED], but no answer. Could
someone
either tell me to go stuff it or who I shall talk to?

Troels Liebe Bentsen

[Cooker] ANNOUNCE: Sunday topics on http://linuxpole.com

[Denis HAVLIK]

Hi, folks
-

Sunday lecture at (http://linuxpole.com):
-
* Newbie Light - What do you think of Civilemes proposal?

* WHY THE HECK DO WE WANT WIN MODEMS ANYWAY? (now, if this does not start
flame wars...)

And if you missed my saturdays post:


* Security announcements and timeliness (by Steve Fox) 

* Menu system (by Damien)

Join the discussion. And if you have a topic to add, click on "add
story" at the bottom of the page.

cu
Denis
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RE: [Cooker] bash-readline real problem

[Geoffrey Lee]

> The real problem with the changes to bash and moving libreadline to /lib
> (BTW, bash requires libhistory, too) is that bash prior to 2.04-4mdk had
> both libreadline and libhistory as static links and at leat one person
> pointed out that this was a good thing.  You could always get bash going
> before this change was made.
>




yep i think that person was me, i pointed out that some people can boot very
broken system swith init=/bin/sh (which btw is what the linux kernel checks
with execvce() and NOT sash!!)



> Instead of really looking at the porblem we got a reaction to the
> symptom and someone moved readline to /lib. The problem was not with
> readline but with bash.  Now we find that moving readline to /lib causes
> other problems.
>



no, readline could go in lib, for the erason that as i have pointed out
already, /usr may not be mounted on boot for broken systems.



> please -- a little attention to detail here. Bash needs to be fixed not
> readline.
>




umm, bash should be static (actually ! only with readline but also with
glibc too) and recompile and add symlinks in /usr/lib, that should fix
everything ;)

RE: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Geoffrey Lee]

> > > gnome-pilot
> > > gnome-pilot-devel
> > > gnumeric
> > > guile
> > > guile-devel
> > > jpilot
> > > kpilot
> > > netcfg
> > > pilot-link
> > > pilot-link-devel
> > > postgresql
> > > postgresql-devel
> > > postgresql-jdbc
> > > postgresql-odbc
> > > postgresql-perl
> > > postgresql-python
> > > postgresql-server
> > > postgresql-tcl
> > > postgresql-test
> > > pygnome
> > > pygtk
> > > python
> > > python-devel
> > > pythonlib
> > > rpm-devel
> > > tkinter
> 
> > yuck.
> ah... if it's a one-time-thing then it's no problem.
> I wouldn't like to see people flip-flopping from /usr/lib
> to /lib and back to /usr/lib a few times...




umm, recompile with symlinks in /usr/lib ? ;)


> 
> Stefan
> 

[Cooker] bash-readline real problem

[jwd]

The real problem with the changes to bash and moving libreadline to /lib
(BTW, bash requires libhistory, too) is that bash prior to 2.04-4mdk had
both libreadline and libhistory as static links and at leat one person
pointed out that this was a good thing.  You could always get bash going
before this change was made.

Instead of really looking at the porblem we got a reaction to the
symptom and someone moved readline to /lib. The problem was not with
readline but with bash.  Now we find that moving readline to /lib causes
other problems.

please -- a little attention to detail here. Bash needs to be fixed not
readline.

jim drash
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[Cooker] compliments 4 Mandrake on slashdot

[Stefan van der Eijk]

Check out:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/11/1212202&mode=thread

Re:Forgot One Thing (Score:3, Insightful)

by David Ham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Sunday June 11, @14:23 CET
(#33)
(User Info) http://www.metastudios.com/decss

"you can't tell me it is as easy as WinNT to setup" that was once
correct, but not any more. i have a "thing" with operating systems -
they interest me very intensely, and so i try them out quite regularly.
in the past few years, i've installed slackware 2.x, redhat 4.x, 5.x,
6.x, mandrake 5.2, 6.0, 7.0 and now 7.1, corel 1.1, windows nt server
4.0, windows 9x (probably 2-300 times), various versions of dos,
freebsd, beos from 3.0 up to current... the beos installer was pretty
simple, but i can *honestly* say that i have *never* seen a system
better set up than the mandrake 7.1 system i installed a few days ago.
it detected EVERYTHING it needed to and set them up accordingly. sound
blaster live, crap onboard video, etc. win9x is relatively easy to set
up, but this installer, quite honestly, put it to shame. you may prefer
windows, and that's fine - to each his own. but please don't say things
like this around easily influenced people and prospective linux users.
it borders on propaganda...
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DeCSS source code! 
you must amputate to email me. [ Reply to This | Parent ] 2 replies
beneath your current threshold.

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Stefan van der Eijk]

> > > * Fri Jun 09 2000 Frederic Lepied <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4.1-5mdk

> > > - move libraries in /lib.

> > I hope you had a good reason for this... It impacted the following
> > packages:


> the reason that i'm offering is:

> bash requires readline (or maybe you can static link with that) and if
> that's the case then /usr may not necessarily be mounted  ...
Sounds good... (seems 2 B a low-level package, by looking at the things
it impacted)..
 
> > fetchmailconf
> > gnome-pilot
> > gnome-pilot-devel
> > gnumeric
> > guile
> > guile-devel
> > jpilot
> > kpilot
> > netcfg
> > pilot-link
> > pilot-link-devel
> > postgresql
> > postgresql-devel
> > postgresql-jdbc
> > postgresql-odbc
> > postgresql-perl
> > postgresql-python
> > postgresql-server
> > postgresql-tcl
> > postgresql-test
> > pygnome
> > pygtk
> > python
> > python-devel
> > pythonlib
> > rpm-devel
> > tkinter

> yuck.
ah... if it's a one-time-thing then it's no problem.
I wouldn't like to see people flip-flopping from /usr/lib
to /lib and back to /usr/lib a few times...

Stefan

[Cooker] 7.1 install of XFree86 4.0 fails

[Hoyt]

I attempted to install XFree86 version 4.0 during my install of 7.1, but it
failed and I have 3.3.6 instead. I have dual head running under 4.0 in my
7.0 install.

I noticed that there were only two 4.0 specific rpm's in 7.1 vice the many
rpm's from cooker. I installed these and copied my XF86Config file over, but
it will not work.

How do I now go about correctly installing 4.0 in Mandrake 7.1? Should I be
using the cooker packages?

Hoyt

[Cooker] SFPager & netatalk (II.)

[Frank Meurer]

The first time I posted this message I got only one partial
answer, so I'm posting again:

Hi,

did I miss something?
1.) Why is the netatalk+asun-patch package not included in Mandrake?
2.) What about the SecurityFocus Pager for quick tracking of
vulnerabilities?

greetinx,
Frank

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Re: [Cooker] Where is...?

[Jonathan Prigot]

Ah, so many packages, such limited eyes and brain. Thanks.
---
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> "Jonathan Prigot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > XFree86-4.0 and Mozilla? I downloaded the ISO's yesterday and burned them but I
> > can't seem to find either of these packages.
> 
> XF4's package is named "XFree86-server-4.0"
> 
> -- 
> Guillaume Cottenceau
-- 
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Brigham and Women's Hospital
900 Commonwealth Avenue, East
Boston, MA 02215-1213

RE: [Cooker] Mozilla daily builds

[Geoffrey Lee]

>
> There are still some issues:
> - Menu icon does not apear in "Networking/WWW". Maybe a mandrake menu
>   expert can have a look at it (should be EZ to fix).




lenny should be able to fix this ...



> - The files /usr/lib/mozilla/components/xpti.dat and xptitemp.dat
>   are created with %post. They should be removed in a %preun or %postun
>   before the files are removed from the disk. Otherwise messages like
>   /usr/lib/mozilla/components is not empty apear.




it has to be %preun.





> - Not as far mandrakized as netscape currently is 
> - I would like the "Build ID" on the lower left to reflect the date
>   of the nightly build. (maybe some info about this is available on
>   the mozilla site).
>



if you do want an id i guess you can make a patch  and rework the date when
you rebuild mozilla ..





> Mozilla related issue (I've found):
> - Does not apear to load homepage at startup.
> - Still crashes (especially on alpha).




mozilla really sucks, everyone who has compiled it will know how many
f*cking warnings there are ...

RE: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Geoffrey Lee]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Stefan van der Eijk
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk
>
>
> > * Fri Jun 09 2000 Frederic Lepied <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4.1-5mdk
> >
> > - move libraries in /lib.
>
> I hope you had a good reason for this... It impacted the following
> packages:
>


the reason that i'm offering is:

bash requires readline (or maybe you can static link with that) and if
that's the case then /usr may not necessarily be mounted  ...



> fetchmailconf
> gnome-pilot
> gnome-pilot-devel
> gnumeric
> guile
> guile-devel
> jpilot
> kpilot
> netcfg
> pilot-link
> pilot-link-devel
> postgresql
> postgresql-devel
> postgresql-jdbc
> postgresql-odbc
> postgresql-perl
> postgresql-python
> postgresql-server
> postgresql-tcl
> postgresql-test
> pygnome
> pygtk
> python
> python-devel
> pythonlib
> rpm-devel
> tkinter
>



yuck.



> Now let's hope it won't be changed back to /usr/lib ;-)
>
> Stefan
>

Re: [Cooker] Mdk71 - ISDN Problem

[Andre Steden]

On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 01:11:07AM +0200, Andre Steden wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> i can't get the ISDN Subsystem working.
> 
> It seems that the devices of the ISDN Subsystem are missing
> in the isdn4k-utils package.
> 
> On my Mdk70 - Box all works fine.
> 
> -- 
> Andre Steden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There is a problem with the non-root build of the
isdn4k-utils-3.1b7-2mdk from Mdk 7.1 and the 
isdn4k-utils-3.1b7-4mdk from cooker !

The ISDN Subsystem doesn`t work with Mdk 7.1, please release an
update of the isdn4k-utils package !!

If i build it non-root the devices are missing in the rpm !!

I had to rebuild the package as root to get ISDN working.

-- 
Andre Steden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Stefan van der Eijk]

> * Fri Jun 09 2000 Frederic Lepied <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4.1-5mdk
> 
> - move libraries in /lib.

I hope you had a good reason for this... It impacted the following
packages:

fetchmailconf
gnome-pilot
gnome-pilot-devel
gnumeric
guile
guile-devel
jpilot
kpilot
netcfg
pilot-link
pilot-link-devel
postgresql
postgresql-devel
postgresql-jdbc
postgresql-odbc
postgresql-perl
postgresql-python
postgresql-server
postgresql-tcl
postgresql-test
pygnome
pygtk
python
python-devel
pythonlib
rpm-devel
tkinter

Now let's hope it won't be changed back to /usr/lib ;-)

Stefan

Re: [Cooker] Mozilla daily builds

[Stefan van der Eijk]

I've uploaded 

hackmozilla-5.0-0.NB2608.2mdk.i686.rpm
hackmozilla-5.0-0.NB2608.2mdk.src.rpm
hackmozilla-devel-5.0-0.NB2608.2mdk.i686.rpm

to /incoming.

(The 2000/06/09 nightly build would not run on my sys...)

 Could these maybe replace the M13 release in contrib?

There are still some issues:
- Menu icon does not apear in "Networking/WWW". Maybe a mandrake menu
  expert can have a look at it (should be EZ to fix).
- The files /usr/lib/mozilla/components/xpti.dat and xptitemp.dat
  are created with %post. They should be removed in a %preun or %postun
  before the files are removed from the disk. Otherwise messages like
  /usr/lib/mozilla/components is not empty apear.
- Not as far mandrakized as netscape currently is 
- I would like the "Build ID" on the lower left to reflect the date
  of the nightly build. (maybe some info about this is available on
  the mozilla site).

Mozilla related issue (I've found):
- Does not apear to load homepage at startup.
- Still crashes (especially on alpha).
- Chatzilla is nog in the "tasks" menu. More of a mozilla related issue,
  not something packaging could solve. I did find the following text on
  dejanews, but after looking in the tasksOverlay.xul file I decided
  not to do anything there (for the moment). Most people should be able
  to cope without chatzilla ;-)

===
Chatzilla is working in the current tree.
To start it up, run mozilla with the -chat option (thanks to sspitzer).
If you
really want it in the tasks menu, and can't wait until there's a correct
way to
do it, add the line
 

 
to your tasksOverlay.xul file, just under the other xul-overlay.
 
I've taken out almost all of the HTML elements from the UI, and applied
a patch
from Josh Gough which adds a slew of new commands.
 
The list of nicknames is quite busted at the moment, I hope to turn it
into a
tree this week, in time for the upcomming milestone.
 
Thanks for the interest,
 
Rob.
 
Daniel Morgan wrote:
>
> Just curious.  How is ChatZilla coming along?
===

Have fun,

Stefan