Re: [Cooker] VM related question

2001-12-16 Thread Fabrice FACORAT

le dim 16-12-2001 à 07:47, Ian C. Sison a écrit :
 On 16 Dec 2001, Juan Quintela wrote:
 
   claudio == Claudio  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  claudio The latest official kernel for 8.1 is 2.4.8-34.1mdk, so I wonder: does 
it
  claudio use the good Andrea's stuff for VM (officially introduced in 2.4.10 as 
far as
  claudio I can remember) or the buggy one?
  claudio Any hope to have a 2.4.17 for 8.1 then?
 
  Yes, just wait that I have a moment to compile a kernel for it.
 
 Hmmm, does this mean that the 2.4.17 you are releasing does not have the
 AA VM patches?  But isnt that included in the stock 2.4.17 already?
 
 Can you clear this up?

 I think he talks about releasing a 2.4.16/17 kernel as update for 8.1
cooker kernel doen't aim to be an update to official releases.

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.9mdk-1-1mdk??

2001-12-16 Thread Charles

On Saturday 15 December 2001 21:57, Juan Quintela wrote:
I don't know what happened, but here is the Changelog:
(as a bonus, the 2.4.16-10mdk that I have just released).


Oh Yeah!  By the way, I got the Changelog for 2.4.16-10mdk
a zillion times.  What is up with that?  Feast or Famine I 
suppose!  ;^)

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Re: [Cooker] Proposal for distribution of images

2001-12-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Han« am 2001-12-15 um 17:08:42 +0100 :
 But can you correct the error with rsync if there is an md5 error?

Sure, just re-rsync the image.  That's what's so great about rsync!  If
there's a 1 byte error somewhere, rsync should detect it and correct it.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] Proposal for distribution of images

2001-12-16 Thread Han

Alexander Skwar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 So sprach »Han« am 2001-12-15 um 17:08:42 +0100 :

 But can you correct the error with rsync if there is an md5 error?

 Sure, just re-rsync the image.  That's what's so great about rsync!
 If there's a 1 byte error somewhere, rsync should detect it and
 correct it.

Nice, last silly question without looking the documentation. Does it
run on windows? And is it implementable by any newbie?


Cya, Han.




Re: [Cooker] stupid question - BIOS boot from second HD

2001-12-16 Thread guran

On Sunday 16 December 2001 3:14 am, Oden Eriksson wrote:

 Don't know, but I read something about this regarding the freebios
 project.
Sorry for this, but you sent me a personal e-mail in swedish and I responded 
promptly - but my mail bounced (twice) and said it was not accepted. Your 
filter might not accept mail from my personal IP as the return address is at 
yahoo.

regards
guran
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Re: [Cooker] Proposal for distribution of images

2001-12-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Han« am 2001-12-16 um 12:28:45 +0100 :
 Nice, last silly question without looking the documentation. Does it
 run on windows? And is it implementable by any newbie?

Yes, there is a rsync binary for Windows ... or so I thought.  However,
compiling a rsync for Windows should not be a big task for Mandrake.

Is it implementable by any newbie?

Uhm, I don't think so.  Newbies are usually to much afraid of the
command line, so that even if the correct syntax would be written out on
the page, they wouldn't get it.  Anyhow, the command line would be:

$ rsync --verbose --partial --progress rsync://server/path /target/dir

Explanation:

--verbose --progress: By default, rsync doesn't print anything at all.
This might cause the newbie to think, that nothing happens.  With these
params, rsync prints stuff.
--partial: By default, if a connection goes down before the file is
completely transferred, rsync will delete it.  With this option, rsync
will keep partially transferred files.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] Abiword Docs

2001-12-16 Thread guran

On Sunday 16 December 2001 7:00 am, Michael Golden wrote:
 With the latest cooker and abiword 0.9.5 as provided by cooker Abiword
 does not open documents correctly. I just created a document, closed
 abiword, restarted abiword and tried to open the document and it told me
 It appears to be a bogus or invalid document

I just tested what you did, and wrote a line in Swedish, saved it, closed abi 
and started abi and opened the doc and it came up allright. But abi 
complained it could not load the dictionary for en-GB.

But locale have never been installed nicely for me as I use en-GB as language 
but Stockholm as time-zone.

regards
guran
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[Cooker] urpmi feature request

2001-12-16 Thread Anton Graham

I think urpmi needs a dependency resolution system for the existing
install.  This would essentially cause urpmi to install packages that
satisfied missing depends in the rpm database as can exist when packages
are forced or the installer skipped missing packages.  Perhaps call the
option --sane as it would (theoretically) put the system into a saner
state than it was in before. 

This ability to repair broken installs (particularly user-created
breaks) would certainly be beneficial for both newbies who may delete
something without understanding and experienced users who force an
occasional package only to have it bite them in the rear. 

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Re: [Cooker] stupid question - BIOS boot from second HD

2001-12-16 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Sundayen den 16 December 2001 13.02, guran wrote:
 On Sunday 16 December 2001 3:14 am, Oden Eriksson wrote:
  Don't know, but I read something about this regarding the freebios
  project.

 Sorry for this, but you sent me a personal e-mail in swedish and I
 responded promptly - but my mail bounced (twice) and said it was not
 accepted. Your filter might not accept mail from my personal IP as the
 return address is at yahoo.

That's odd..., IIRC I put another address in the reply-to. I get so much spam 
from yahoo, and I got tired of it.

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[Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk

2001-12-16 Thread Oden Eriksson

[root@oden RPMS]# rpm -Uvh kernel-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 
kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing...### [100%]
   1:kernel-2.4.16.10mdk### [ 50%]
mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
   2:kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdkerror: unpacking of archive failed on file 
/boot/System.map-2.4.16-10mdksmp;3c1cafae: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

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| Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
| Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 12 hours 30 minutes
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4500 rpm, temp +30°C
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4530 rpm, temp +30.0°C




[Cooker] On 'setting locale'

2001-12-16 Thread guran

Hi

I have always found the following in my report.bug:

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = en_GB:en,
...

Here is one possible cause:
When I enter en-GB as my language I am automatically met by the proposed 
time-zone London. I change this to Stockholm.

Is it possible that the logical step, concluded by the installation, is 
broken, when London is not confirmed? To me it is obvious that en-Gb is 
spoken at more places than within the time-zone of London. The other data 
that might confuse this algoritm is the 'added' language of swedish. This 
data should according to my understanding only influence a db of dictionaries.

Is the 'setting of locale' in Cooker all fine for everybody?

regards
guran
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk

2001-12-16 Thread Nelson Bartley

I dunno,
the regular stock kernel worked fine for me.

NB
- Original Message -
From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 9:31 AM
Subject: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk


 [root@oden RPMS]# rpm -Uvh kernel-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
 kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
 Preparing...###
[100%]
1:kernel-2.4.16.10mdk###
[ 50%]
 mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
2:kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdkerror: unpacking of archive failed on file
 /boot/System.map-2.4.16-10mdksmp;3c1cafae: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

 --
 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 | Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
 | Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
 | Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 12 hours 30 minutes
 | cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4500 rpm, temp +30°C
 | cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4530 rpm, temp +30.0°C







Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk

2001-12-16 Thread Nelson Bartley

My Bad, I meant to say that the 2.4.16-10mdk kernel worked fine for me.

NB
- Original Message -
From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 9:31 AM
Subject: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk


 [root@oden RPMS]# rpm -Uvh kernel-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
 kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
 Preparing...###
[100%]
1:kernel-2.4.16.10mdk###
[ 50%]
 mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
2:kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdkerror: unpacking of archive failed on file
 /boot/System.map-2.4.16-10mdksmp;3c1cafae: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

 --
 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 | Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
 | Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
 | Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 12 hours 30 minutes
 | cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4500 rpm, temp +30°C
 | cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4530 rpm, temp +30.0°C







Re: [Cooker] Proposal for distribution of images

2001-12-16 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

On Âñê, 2001-12-16 at 15:05, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach »Han« am 2001-12-16 um 12:28:45 +0100 :
  Nice, last silly question without looking the documentation. Does it
  run on windows? And is it implementable by any newbie?
 
 Yes, there is a rsync binary for Windows ... or so I thought.  However,
 compiling a rsync for Windows should not be a big task for Mandrake.
 

rsync is part of current Cygwin distribution that is POSIX emulation
layer atop of Win32 subsystem. 

www.cygwin.com


-andrej




Re: [Cooker] urpmi feature request

2001-12-16 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

On ÷ÓË, 2001-12-16 at 15:54, Anton Graham wrote:
 I think urpmi needs a dependency resolution system for the existing
 install.  This would essentially cause urpmi to install packages that
 satisfied missing depends in the rpm database as can exist when packages
 are forced or the installer skipped missing packages.  Perhaps call the
 option --sane as it would (theoretically) put the system into a saner
 state than it was in before. 
 

It will defeat current installer. Installer specifically runs with
--nodeps - e.g. it alows you to skip Nautilus that is near to impossible
otherwise.


 This ability to repair broken installs (particularly user-created
 breaks) would certainly be beneficial for both newbies who may delete
 something without understanding and experienced users who force an
 occasional package only to have it bite them in the rear. 
 

Experience users know how to correct it. And if newbie ever runs
--nodeps he does it usually on advice of so called experts. Normal
nebies do not even know rpm flags.

But what would be _really_ useful is the ability to recreate
installation profiles (already discussed w.r.t. to sungle CD
installation). But tat is not part of urpmi task.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] On 'setting locale'

2001-12-16 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

On ÷ÓË, 2001-12-16 at 17:49, guran wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have always found the following in my report.bug:
 
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LANGUAGE = en_GB:en,
 ...
 
 Here is one possible cause:
 When I enter en-GB as my language I am automatically met by the proposed 
 time-zone London. I change this to Stockholm.
 
 Is it possible that the logical step, concluded by the installation, is 
 broken, when London is not confirmed? To me it is obvious that en-Gb is 
 spoken at more places than within the time-zone of London. The other data 
 that might confuse this algoritm is the 'added' language of swedish. This 
 data should according to my understanding only influence a db of dictionaries.
 
 Is the 'setting of locale' in Cooker all fine for everybody?
 

It is too general question - but what we need is separate installation
language and system locale. Currrently I have no way to run
installation in English while configuring default Russian locale for
system. There is localedrake but it is half-broken.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk

2001-12-16 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Sundayen den 16 December 2001 15.59, Nelson Bartley wrote:
 My Bad, I meant to say that the 2.4.16-10mdk kernel worked fine for me.

 NB
 - Original Message -
 From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 9:31 AM
 Subject: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk

  [root@oden RPMS]# rpm -Uvh kernel-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
  kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
  Preparing...###

 [100%]

 1:kernel-2.4.16.10mdk###

 [ 50%]

  mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
 2:kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdkerror: unpacking of archive failed on file
  /boot/System.map-2.4.16-10mdksmp;3c1cafae: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

I tried the ones found at uninett and at sunet, I got the same error.

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Re: [Cooker] DevFS, kernel and Irda

2001-12-16 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

On óÂÔ, 2001-12-15 at 23:08, Michal Bukovjan wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 I guess there is another problem with devfs - there are no irda devices 
 registered.
 When devfs is disabled, I can use my /dev/ircomm* devices.
 With devfs, there seem to be no Irda devices around. (no ircomm*, no 
 irda , nothing)
 
 Am I missing something? is it a bug?
 

/dev/ircomm* are created by ircomm-tty module. I have zero knowledge
about IrDA on Linux so I have no idea when this module gets loaded. But
if you want it to be automatically loaded on access to /dev/ircomm* -
add the following to the /etc/modules.devfs:

alias /dev/ircomm   ircomm-tty
alias /dev/ircomm*  /dev/ircomm

Thierry, what about adding it to next devfsd?

 Using:
 
 kernel-2.4.16-9mdk
 irda-utils-0.9.14-5mdk
 devfsd-1.3.20-1mdk
 
 BTW, upgrading to this version of kernel/devfsd seems to partially solve 
 my problems with CDROMs, the SCSI emulated CD burner is now found under 
 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd (previously it was not).

Very unlilkely it depends on kernel version. Something else has changed.


 The burner 
 is still not present under /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun (aka 
 /dev/hdc) - are these mutually exclusive?
 

Yes. The entries are created by corresponding driver - and we have
either ide-cd or ide-scsi active for a given device.


This may be considered a bug, I miss the ability to use hdparm in this
case.

-andrej




[Cooker] opl3 problems

2001-12-16 Thread George Mitchell

I am still seeing opl3 synth/midi module failing to function on two 
different mobo/sound chip combinations.  Anybody else having this 
problem? Anybody having success with opl3?





Re: [Cooker] Proposal for distribution of images

2001-12-16 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Saturdayen den 15 December 2001 02.18, Han wrote:
 Hiya,

 Reading a lot of dramatic stories of people on 56k modems downloading
 the iso images. After days of downloading they have nothing but a
 broken image. And they were so enthousiatic by all the good news on
 the site.

Why not have people with a cd burner selling cheap cd:s to the modem users, 
and put a list with these persons on the mandrake site?. I can sell home 
burned Cooker cd:s in Sweden ;)

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| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 14 minutes
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4560 rpm, temp +32°C
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4500 rpm, temp +32.0°C




Re: [Cooker] possible devfs problem

2001-12-16 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Fridayen den 14 December 2001 20.02, skidley wrote:
  What do you mean, put sg from where to where? I don't have
  /dev/modules.
 
  He he he, I'm lost here...

 I would say he meant /etc/modules where you can put any modules you want
 loaded at boot.

Well, I had to stop using devfs because of unknown lockups, the only cure was 
a hard reset (the reset button).

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| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4470 rpm, temp +30.5°C




Re: [Cooker] On 'setting locale'

2001-12-16 Thread guran

On Sunday 16 December 2001 5:20 pm, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 On ÷ÓË, 2001-12-16 at 17:49, guran wrote:

  Is the 'setting of locale' in Cooker all fine for everybody?

 It is too general question - but what we need is separate installation
 language and system locale. Currently I have no way to run
 installation in English while configuring default Russian locale for
 system. There is localedrake but it is half-broken.

That implies that Mdk has given up on constructing something similar to the 
xserver, where you may change resolution yet map the same GUI in the new 
environment.

What I am looking for is a db of locale, that may easily be changed - 
something similar to the use of English on this list, but letters should be 
able to be constructed within any installed system of language. I am 
guessing, but I assume that many ex colonies have more than one 'locale'.

As it is now, I am never explicitly asked for a locale, this is inferred from 
steps taken during installation.

regards
guran
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Re: [Cooker] urpmi feature request

2001-12-16 Thread Anton Graham

On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 08:18, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 
 It will defeat current installer. Installer specifically runs with
 --nodeps - e.g. it alows you to skip Nautilus that is near to impossible
 otherwise.

Not really.  urpmi already allows you to skip nautilus through proper use
of provides/requires.  Yes, the installer intentionally runs the equivalent
of the --nodeps flag.  But, if you've ever done a cooker install via ftp, 
(sometimes even by mirrored hd :p) you know that sometimes packages just
aren't there.  Keeping track of missed packages last time yielded a full
dozen important packages (including urpmi).

 Experience users know how to correct it. And if newbie ever runs
 --nodeps he does it usually on advice of so called experts. Normal
 nebies do not even know rpm flags.

Ah, but urpmi/rpmdrake give the option to --force.  Eager young Joe Newbie
will gladly push that button, too, because he doesn't understand how much 
potential there is to break your system with that one button.

Which brings up another point.  urpmi's dependency check needs to recurse
into packages that it has selected to fulfill depends.  Frequently package
abc requires package def.  They both require ghi, but abc doesn't list it
as an explicit requires because def does.  This works fine if rpm's are 
being installed manually, but urpmi handle it as follows (output isn't 
exact, but you get the idea):

$urpmi abc
In order to satisfy dependencies the following packages will be
installed (256k):
abc-1.1.0-1 def-1.2.3-1
Is it ok? y
Preparing  ###
   ghi = 1.3.4 is required by def-1.2.3-1

Some dependencies could not be resolved, force?

 But what would be _really_ useful is the ability to recreate
 installation profiles (already discussed w.r.t. to sungle CD
 installation). But tat is not part of urpmi task.
 
 -andrej
 
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Re: [Cooker] DevFS, kernel and Irda

2001-12-16 Thread Michal Bukovjan

Hello Andrej,

I tried this and it does not work.
The modules in question - related to irda - are irda, irtty, tekram.
I think the modules are loaded when irda is loaded via /etc/init.d/irda 
start

I tried both ircomm-tty and irtty, neither works.

Perhaps the reason could be that the Irda drivers are not converted to 
use devfs yet?

I was able to mknod /dev/ircomm0 c 161 0, though...
But this is not something an ordinary user will do :-)

Michal Bukovjan

Borsenkow Andrej wrote:

On óÂÔ, 2001-12-15 at 23:08, Michal Bukovjan wrote:

Hi list,

I guess there is another problem with devfs - there are no irda devices 
registered.
When devfs is disabled, I can use my /dev/ircomm* devices.
With devfs, there seem to be no Irda devices around. (no ircomm*, no 
irda , nothing)

Am I missing something? is it a bug?


/dev/ircomm* are created by ircomm-tty module. I have zero knowledge
about IrDA on Linux so I have no idea when this module gets loaded. But
if you want it to be automatically loaded on access to /dev/ircomm* -
add the following to the /etc/modules.devfs:

alias /dev/ircomm   ircomm-tty
alias /dev/ircomm*  /dev/ircomm

Thierry, what about adding it to next devfsd?

Using:

kernel-2.4.16-9mdk
irda-utils-0.9.14-5mdk
devfsd-1.3.20-1mdk

BTW, upgrading to this version of kernel/devfsd seems to partially solve 
my problems with CDROMs, the SCSI emulated CD burner is now found under 
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd (previously it was not).


Very unlilkely it depends on kernel version. Something else has changed.


 The burner 

is still not present under /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun (aka 
/dev/hdc) - are these mutually exclusive?


Yes. The entries are created by corresponding driver - and we have
either ide-cd or ide-scsi active for a given device.


This may be considered a bug, I miss the ability to use hdparm in this
case.

-andrej








Re: [Cooker] opl3 problems

2001-12-16 Thread Michal Bukovjan

There is a new version of ALSA 0.5.12b which claims to fix some problems 
with loading on 2.4.16 kernels. Perhaps this is a related problem, just 
a thought.

Michal Bukovjan

George Mitchell wrote:

 I am still seeing opl3 synth/midi module failing to function on two 
 different mobo/sound chip combinations.  Anybody else having this 
 problem? Anybody having success with opl3?








Re: [Cooker] possible devfs problem

2001-12-16 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

On ÷ÓË, 2001-12-16 at 19:35, Oden Eriksson wrote:
 On Fridayen den 14 December 2001 20.02, skidley wrote:
   What do you mean, put sg from where to where? I don't have
   /dev/modules.
  
   He he he, I'm lost here...
 
  I would say he meant /etc/modules where you can put any modules you want
  loaded at boot.
 
 Well, I had to stop using devfs because of unknown lockups, the only cure was 
 a hard reset (the reset button).
 

When these lockups happened? On bootup/login? Why do you think they are
related to devfs? BTW what kernel are you using?

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] DevFS, kernel and Irda

2001-12-16 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

On ÷ÓË, 2001-12-16 at 20:30, Michal Bukovjan wrote:
 Hello Andrej,
 
 I tried this and it does not work.

What `this' and what `it'?

 The modules in question - related to irda - are irda, irtty, tekram.
 I think the modules are loaded when irda is loaded via /etc/init.d/irda 
 start
 

Well, you need somebody who knows IrDA stack better than me. I repeat,
ircomm* nodes are created by ircomm-tty driver but I have no idea which
modules are actually needed in your case.

 I tried both ircomm-tty and irtty, neither works.
 
 Perhaps the reason could be that the Irda drivers are not converted to 
 use devfs yet?
 

They are. 

{pts/1}% ll /dev/irc*
zsh: no matches found: /dev/irc*
{pts/1}% sudo modprobe ircomm-tty
{pts/1}% ll /dev/irc*
crw---1 root root 161,   0 ñÎ×  1  1970 /dev/ircomm0
crw---1 root root 161,   1 ñÎ×  1  1970 /dev/ircomm1
...

-andrej




[Cooker] PATCH: apm.c - runtime parameter for APM Idle call

2001-12-16 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

After investigating kapm_idled problem here it turned out quite simple -
BIOS neither slows down CPU nor halts it so kapm_idled enters busy loop
doing basically

while !system_busy
  do nothing

eating away CPU. This applies to patch of Andreas as well.

I do not like an option of recompiling without CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE
because I think about distribution kernel in the first place. I have
ASUS CUSL2 motherboard - it is not unusual brand and obviously many
people have the same problem and you cannot expect all of them to
recompile kernel. So this patch adds runtime parameter (no-)apm-idle
that has the same effect - enabling/disabling usage of APM Idle BIOS
calls. It is initialised according to CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE and should be
100% compatible.

If Andreas patch is accepted it needs the same treatment.

I thought once about run-time detection - if BIOS reports that Idle does
not slow down CPU try Idle call once and compare jiffies (probably
repeat several times to be sure). Is it sensible?

Patch is agains 2.4.16-9.dk but should apply to any version I guess.

-andrej





--- arch/i386/kernel/apm.c.org	Sat Nov 10 00:58:02 2001
+++ arch/i386/kernel/apm.c	Sun Dec 16 21:23:27 2001
@@ -383,6 +383,11 @@
 static int			allow_ints;
 #endif
 static int			broken_psr;
+#ifdef CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE
+static int			apm_idle_enabled = 1;
+#else
+static int			apm_idle_enabled;
+#endif
 
 static DECLARE_WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD(apm_waitqueue);
 static DECLARE_WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD(apm_suspend_waitqueue);
@@ -1366,7 +1371,8 @@
 		 */
 		set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
 		apm_event_handler();
-#ifdef CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE
+		if (!apm_idle_enabled)
+			continue;
 		if (!system_idle())
 			continue;
 		
@@ -1393,7 +1399,6 @@
 			apm_event_handler();
 			timeout = 1;
 		}
-#endif
 	}
 	remove_wait_queue(apm_waitqueue, wait);
 }
@@ -1814,6 +1819,8 @@
 		if ((strncmp(str, realmode-power-off, 18) == 0) ||
 		(strncmp(str, realmode_power_off, 18) == 0))
 			apm_info.realmode_power_off = !invert;
+		if (strncmp(str, apm-idle, 8) == 0)
+			apm_idle_enabled = !invert;
 		str = strchr(str, ',');
 		if (str != NULL)
 			str += strspn(str, , \t);



Re: [Cooker] On 'setting locale'

2001-12-16 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Sunday 16 Dec 2001 14:49, guran wrote:
 Hi

 I have always found the following in my report.bug:

 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LANGUAGE = en_GB:en,
 ...

 Here is one possible cause:
 When I enter en-GB as my language I am automatically met by the
 proposed time-zone London. I change this to Stockholm.

 Is it possible that the logical step, concluded by the installation, is
 broken, when London is not confirmed? To me it is obvious that en-Gb is
 spoken at more places than within the time-zone of London. The other
 data that might confuse this algoritm is the 'added' language of
 swedish. This data should according to my understanding only influence
 a db of dictionaries.

 Is the 'setting of locale' in Cooker all fine for everybody?

 regards
 guran

I've been getting those warnings for months - en_GB:en and London.

-- 
Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ).
Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586
Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin,  XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk.
KDE: 2.2.2.  Qt: 2.3.2.  Uptime 2 days 22 hours 42 minutes.
--




Re: [Cooker] possible devfs problem

2001-12-16 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Sundayen den 16 December 2001 19.30, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 On ÷ÓË, 2001-12-16 at 19:35, Oden Eriksson wrote:
  On Fridayen den 14 December 2001 20.02, skidley wrote:
What do you mean, put sg from where to where? I don't have
/dev/modules.
   
He he he, I'm lost here...
  
   I would say he meant /etc/modules where you can put any modules you
   want loaded at boot.
 
  Well, I had to stop using devfs because of unknown lockups, the only cure
  was a hard reset (the reset button).

 When these lockups happened? On bootup/login? Why do you think they are
 related to devfs? BTW what kernel are you using?

I have not had any lockups prior enabling devfs, so I assume that's why. The 
lockups occured while running X+KDE. I'm using 2.4.16-9mdksmp.
-- 
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| Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
| Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 3 hours 50 minutes
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4560 rpm, temp +29œC
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4530 rpm, temp +29.5œC




[Cooker] Gnome FIle Manager

2001-12-16 Thread Gary Chisholm

A little while ago I found out that by making a 'Documents' directory
within a users home created a button withing gnome while using 'Open',
'Save', 'Save As'.

By default there is 'Home' and 'Desktop' buttons, if that directory is
there a new button will appear called Documents.  Maybe cooker can
utilize this for the desktop user by creating a Documents directory when
creating a new user?

Just a thought.

--
Gary Chisholm

System: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20011214 14:49 2.4.16-9mdk







[Cooker] Maybe too newbie but...

2001-12-16 Thread eric cartman

Ok this may be too newbie but I dont seem to able to find latest 2.4 
kernel on cooker mirrors

anyone have suggestions?

thnx in advance




Re: [Cooker] Proposal for distribution of images

2001-12-16 Thread Charles

On Sunday 16 December 2001 07:05, Alexander Skwar wrote:
So sprach »Han« am 2001-12-16 um 12:28:45 +0100 :
 Nice, last silly question without looking the documentation. Does it
 run on windows? And is it implementable by any newbie?

Yes, there is a rsync binary for Windows ... or so I thought.  However,
compiling a rsync for Windows should not be a big task for Mandrake.

Is it implementable by any newbie?

Uhm, I don't think so.  Newbies are usually to much afraid of the
command line, so that even if the correct syntax would be written out on
the page, they wouldn't get it.  Anyhow, the command line would be:

$ rsync --verbose --partial --progress rsync://server/path /target/dir

Explanation:

--verbose --progress: By default, rsync doesn't print anything at all.
This might cause the newbie to think, that nothing happens.  With these
params, rsync prints stuff.
--partial: By default, if a connection goes down before the file is
completely transferred, rsync will delete it.  With this option, rsync
will keep partially transferred files.

Are all of the windows versions still supporting .bat or
.cmd scripts?  If so, someone could write a script that did 
of the hard work, like prividing the user with a choice of
rsync mirrors, and offering to create a target directory, etc.
With this method, a newbie would see the minimum amount of 
the command line.  IIRC,  in old versions of windows (up to 95
and nt=4) such scripts could be executed by couble clicking
I have to search my fading memories for this, as all I have done
with windows in the last several years is scoff at it. ;^)

-- 
*Chuck*





Re: [Cooker] DevFS, kernel and Irda

2001-12-16 Thread Michal Bukovjan

Hello Andrej,

by 'it' and 'that' I meant adding aliases to /etc/modules.devfs as you 
suggested.
However, doing what you suggest:

{pts/1}% ll /dev/irc*
zsh: no matches found: /dev/irc*
{pts/1}% sudo modprobe ircomm-tty
{pts/1}% ll /dev/irc*

works for me as well - there is about thirty devices created and working.

So now is the question - where and what fix should go (I am using Tekram 
dongle, this may apply to others as well):

- when irda starts via initscript, only tekram, irda and irtty modules 
are loaded. This combination works OK on systems without devfs.
- to work on devfs enabled system, ircomm-tty module has to be loaded as 
well (it creates actual devices). I am somewhat puzzled about what the 
difference is between irtty and ircomm-tty.

Possible places that I am thinking about one of the following:

- patching irattach (which is responsible for loading the tekram, irda 
and irtty modules as I found) to load ircomm-tty as well
- modifying /etc/modules to preload ircomm-tty module when irda/irtty 
module is loaded?
- modifying /etc/modules.conf to load ircomm-tty alongside irtty
- modifying irda initscript to load ircomm-tty when starting
- perhaps there is something that may be done in /etc/devfsd.conf, 
 (definitely at least to fix perms, so that port is rw for all)

Which would be the best solution? Any ideas?

Michal

Borsenkow Andrej wrote:

On ÷ÓË, 2001-12-16 at 20:30, Michal Bukovjan wrote:

Hello Andrej,

I tried this and it does not work.


What `this' and what `it'?

The modules in question - related to irda - are irda, irtty, tekram.
I think the modules are loaded when irda is loaded via /etc/init.d/irda 
start


Well, you need somebody who knows IrDA stack better than me. I repeat,
ircomm* nodes are created by ircomm-tty driver but I have no idea which
modules are actually needed in your case.

I tried both ircomm-tty and irtty, neither works.

Perhaps the reason could be that the Irda drivers are not converted to 
use devfs yet?


They are. 

{pts/1}% ll /dev/irc*
zsh: no matches found: /dev/irc*
{pts/1}% sudo modprobe ircomm-tty
{pts/1}% ll /dev/irc*
crw---1 root root 161,   0 ñÎ×  1  1970 /dev/ircomm0
crw---1 root root 161,   1 ñÎ×  1  1970 /dev/ircomm1
...

-andrej








Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk

2001-12-16 Thread Salane

the initrd install hasn't worked for me upon kernel installation lately, but 
mkinitrd still works.


On Sunday 16 December 2001 09:58 am, you wrote:
 I dunno,
 the regular stock kernel worked fine for me.

 NB
 - Original Message -
 From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 9:31 AM
 Subject: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk

  [root@oden RPMS]# rpm -Uvh kernel-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
  kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
  Preparing...###

 [100%]

 1:kernel-2.4.16.10mdk###

 [ 50%]

  mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
 2:kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdkerror: unpacking of archive failed on file
  /boot/System.map-2.4.16-10mdksmp;3c1cafae: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch
 
  --
  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 
  | Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
  | Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
  | Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 12 hours 30 minutes
  | cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4500 rpm, temp +30°C
  | cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4530 rpm, temp +30.0°C

-- 
Either I'm dead or my watch has stopped.
-- Groucho Marx's last words




Re: [Cooker] Maybe too newbie but...

2001-12-16 Thread Sergio Korlowsky

On Monday 17 December 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
 Ok this may be too newbie but I dont seem to able to find latest 2.4
 kernel on cooker mirrors

 anyone have suggestions?

 thnx in advance


/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm

check the mirrors




Re: [Cooker] Maybe too newbie but...

2001-12-16 Thread eric cartman

On 2001.12.16 23:32 Sergio Korlowsky wrote:
 On Monday 17 December 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
  Ok this may be too newbie but I dont seem to able to find latest 2.4
  kernel on cooker mirrors
 
  anyone have suggestions?
 
  thnx in advance
 
 
 /cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
 
 check the mirrors
 
 
 
grabbed it thnx




RE: [Cooker] php-imap

2001-12-16 Thread Yura Gusev



 unneeded... you could use php's imap function to connect to a remote
imap
 server.
 
 Hail, i have one question. Doest php-imap really need a imap server
 installed or it is just a unneeded dep?

So can mandrake remove it from deps? BTW same thing for php-ldap.





Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk

2001-12-16 Thread Nelson Bartley

mine was from either sunet or lip6.

Not sure which one I was usin though... but those are the only cooker
sources I use since Helios stoped updating

NB
- Original Message -
From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk


 On Sundayen den 16 December 2001 15.59, Nelson Bartley wrote:
  My Bad, I meant to say that the 2.4.16-10mdk kernel worked fine for me.
 
  NB
  - Original Message -
  From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 9:31 AM
  Subject: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.16.10mdk
 
   [root@oden RPMS]# rpm -Uvh kernel-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
   kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
   Preparing...
###
 
  [100%]
 
  1:kernel-2.4.16.10mdk
###
 
  [ 50%]
 
   mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
  2:kernel-smp-2.4.16.10mdkerror: unpacking of archive failed on file
   /boot/System.map-2.4.16-10mdksmp;3c1cafae: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

 I tried the ones found at uninett and at sunet, I got the same error.

 --
 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 | Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
 | Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
 | Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 12 minutes
 | cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4560 rpm, temp +32°C
 | cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4470 rpm, temp +32.0°C







RE: [Cooker] Proposal for distribution of images

2001-12-16 Thread Michael Bollozos

Same here in Taiwan... ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oden Eriksson
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Proposal for distribution of images


On Saturdayen den 15 December 2001 02.18, Han wrote:
 Hiya,

 Reading a lot of dramatic stories of people on 56k modems downloading
 the iso images. After days of downloading they have nothing but a
 broken image. And they were so enthousiatic by all the good news on
 the site.

Why not have people with a cd burner selling cheap cd:s to the modem users,
and put a list with these persons on the mandrake site?. I can sell home
burned Cooker cd:s in Sweden ;)

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| Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
| Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 14 minutes
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4560 rpm, temp +32°C
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4500 rpm, temp +32.0°C





[Cooker] cipher-aes taints the kernel...

2001-12-16 Thread Oden Eriksson

[root@oden oden]# modprobe cipher-aes
Warning: loading 
/lib/modules/2.4.16-9mdksmp/kernel/crypto/ciphers/cipher-aes.o.gz will taint 
the kernel: no license

-- 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
| Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
| Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-9mdksmp: 10 hours 40 minutes
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4470 rpm, temp +29°C
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4470 rpm, temp +29.0°C




RE: [Cooker] DevFS, kernel and Irda

2001-12-16 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
 by 'it' and 'that' I meant adding aliases to /etc/modules.devfs as you
 suggested.

It works. Have you restarted devfsd?

 However, doing what you suggest:
 
 {pts/1}% ll /dev/irc*
 zsh: no matches found: /dev/irc*
 {pts/1}% sudo modprobe ircomm-tty
 {pts/1}% ll /dev/irc*
 
 works for me as well - there is about thirty devices created and
working.
 
 So now is the question - where and what fix should go

The fix must go into /etc/modules.devfsd:

#IrDA ircomm devices
alias /dev/ircomm   ircomm-tty
alias /dev/ircomm*  /dev/ircomm

[root@cooker root]# ll /dev/ircomm*
ls: /dev/ircomm*: No such file or directory
[root@cooker root]# lsmod | grep ircomm-tty
[root@cooker root]#
[root@cooker root]# ll /dev/ircomm0
crw---1 root root 161,   0 Jan  1  1970 /dev/ircomm0
[root@cooker root]# lsmod | grep ircomm-tty
ircomm-tty 20320   0  (autoclean) (unused)
ircomm  7900   0  (autoclean) [ircomm-tty]
irda   92428   0  (autoclean) [ircomm-tty ircomm]


-andrej




[Cooker] kernel request

2001-12-16 Thread Richard Bown (QMW)

hej guys
just a quick request from a lazy git like me : )
any chance of enabling ip tunneling ?, when droping thge latest kernel  onto cooker.
it would save having to compile each time, especially on a machine 1000 miles 
away..remotely !!!
keep up the great work, prison sentence here in Sweden expires in 4 days..god jul , 
Best Regards, mvh


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Ericsson Microwave Systems AB
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