Re: [Cooker] Samba update failed?
On Saturday 15 November 2003 04:45 pm, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: > Did a urpmi --auto-select tonight - possible samba update bomb? > Here's the console output: > Update you local repository. The new perl modules are there and your hdlist is most likely off. or you simply have not downloaded the latest parts. I have installed it here and upgraded it form the working 9.2 install and it works perfectly so far. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b
On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:02 am, Dennis Veatch wrote: > Except that when run as a normal user (at least for me) from konsole it > pops up a system configuration error about cdrdao and readcd not running > with root privileges and says to use K3bSetup to correct. > > BTW, I have to use konsole because k3b was not added to Applications > > Archiving > Cd burning (at least that's where I have always found it). there are a few other problems also. For instance when trying copy a dvd. I can goto the dvd drive select the track I want. Then right click and selct copy but i get an error about not being able to mount the device because it is already mounted. I would say it needs to be fixed to work with supermount properly. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Fwd: Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b
On Sunday 16 November 2003 03:48 pm, you wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:02 am, Dennis Veatch wrote: > > Except that when run as a normal user (at least for me) from konsole it > > pops up a system configuration error about cdrdao and readcd not running > > with root privileges and says to use K3bSetup to correct. > > > > BTW, I have to use konsole because k3b was not added to Applications > > > Archiving > Cd burning (at least that's where I have always found it). > > there are a few other problems also. For instance when trying copy a dvd. I > can goto the dvd drive select the track I want. Then right click and selct > copy but i get an error about not being able to mount the device because it > is already mounted. I would say it needs to be fixed to work with > supermount properly. Sounds like that to me. Can't test the DVD part on the box running cooker, only has a scsi Yamaha CD burner. The rest of it seems to work fine burning wise. --- -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] KDE 3.2 beta1 - KDM Session Type Selection
On Sunday 16 November 2003 04:30 pm, Frank Griffin wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >For me it works fine if I choose "Default". > > Well, it depends on what you want to get for "Default". If I go through > the drakfw wizard and choose GNOME, that's what I expect to get the next > time. > > But that aside, the problem is that no matter what WM you choose > explicitly from the (I assume) MDKKDM submenu, all you get is ICEWm. > Maybe this doesn't happen if all you ever try to use is KDE. Although no consolation to you i can confirm it works great if you use kde. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] kcontrol lost all the categories
On Saturday 15 November 2003 09:33 am, Dennis Veatch wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:40 am, you wrote: > > Le sam 15/11/2003 à 13:58, Dennis Veatch a écrit : > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > > Some where along the line of doing a fresh install a couple of days ago > > > and now (after running updates on cooker) I have once again lost all > > > the categories in kcontrol. The only thing that shows up right now is > > > LookNFeel with nothing under it. This is after running urpmi.update to > > > make sure I got everything. > > > > please sync with latest cooker kde 3.2 packages ( don't forget to > > logout/login ). > > > > Note : set correctly your reply-to field > > I did. this s a problem with the current kmail (I use it in konatact so it may be kontact only). For some reason it does not get the reply to correctly it always send a reply to the original sender. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] Florin squid and dans guardian.
Just curious if squid included the patch to allow acl's to work when using dansgaurdian? Thanks for your time. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] dead lg drives are not so dead
I copied this from pclinuxonline but I thought others here would like to see this LG offers a solution for their sub par devices : Go to : http://us.lgservice.com/ Choose Product support, then Device driver, CD-ROM and "Emergency download for Physical Dead Drive from Mandrake Linux 9.2" There is a Dead.gif file explaining the way to reflash the drive. Does it work ? -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] qt still crapped?
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 11:05 am, Austin wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ qjackctl > Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 > Warning: no locale found: /usr/share/locale/qjackctl_en_US.qm > No Motif style available! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ > > Austin install xfree devel -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Danger: Magazine with 9.2 with problematic kernel
On Monday 10 November 2003 02:17 am, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: > * Fri Oct 03 2003 Mike A. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4.3.0-36 > - Added XFree86-4.3.0-ati-generic-shared-chip-data.patch to unify changes > to > atichip.h into a single harmless patch to avoid patch overlap and merge > conflicts patch was completed after 9.2 was finished. Thanks though because it could now be added to cooker and available for next release. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Danger: Magazine with 9.2 with problematic kernel
On Monday 10 November 2003 02:01 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > Well, the only additional issue you have mentioned (besides the LG > issue) is totally out of our hands. No distro can currently support the > latest Radeon cards without free software. So, users should either bite > the bullet and install the ATI drivers manually, buy the release, or > join the club and use the packages there (and hope they have been > updated for the new kernel too). they have been I grabed them from the club. However this does not solve the menu issue. Which is the only ligitimate thing I have found. Having said that what about all the other things that mandrake does right. 1) This is the first time i have had autodetection of hardware work correctly on boot. Never ever has it worked correctly before. It would hang or not remove old hardware correctly or simply not set up the new hardware correctly. I added a new dvd burner after install and guess what it installed it more or less correctly and it was working perfectly. That did not work even with 9.1. Now I will admit I had to edit lilo a bit to get my original cd burner running in ide-scsi again but that was minor. and could be handled easily enough. 2) The networking now works better to use this as a firewall. The built in firewall scripts for 9.1 on every machine I tried on would simply not set it up correctly. On 9.2 it's better but not perfect yet. I do understand though that this has to do with the kernel handeling dma or irq differently and so multiple nic cards are not always detected properly. At any rate with 9.2 it works better. Now if I could just figure out why it has not worked with my macs since 8.2. There are quite a few other small things that I cant think of right now but all in all 9.2 is much better than anything previously. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] ftp/shorewall oddity
On Monday 10 November 2003 03:05 am, Florin wrote: > > I have already reccomended that all my packages that I have put on my web > side go to the updates ... I have already put them into my freshly backed cd's. Thanks for the work Florin. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] KDE 3.1.93 problems
1) when creating a new contact or editing an old one in kontact if you select categories it will crash. 2) form buttons in konqeror are not showing up correctly. 3) with the last update spellchecking is not working in konqeror with webforms or with kmail within kontact. 4) kmail/kontact is not forwarding email correctly for mailing lists. It forwards the mail to the author instead of to the mailing list. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] testing
allot of the emails to the list have not been showing up for me. So I'm testing my other email address to see if it works better. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Any idea about new 9.2 isos and Austin some questions.
On Monday 03 November 2003 01:53 pm, Galileo wrote: > Don't care about lg also. My trusty old TEAC 40x is the best out there > > :))) > > btw how come I have only 1,3 gigs of iso ? > Download edition is about 2 gigs large. I'm not sure here. if you got everything it will include them as long as there are no issues. > I used all of the rpm from first 3 cds. > Who did build the original download isos anyway ? > It would be nice if mandrake released an "official" howto on this > subject. > One last thing. > Do you think that this would be possible : > The "perfect" solution for me would be if i could build isos which are > as close as the original but with all of the fixes and updates applied and > the first iso with size of 700mb so I could fit in kernel-sorce on it. This > way i would avoid all the hassle with original isos and when i give them to > somebody they will get a perfect ml 9.2. > Later on i could build 4th iso with packages that I need which are not > in the main. I think warly has been been playing with this some but makecd as of now I dont think will do this unless warly has changed things around in it. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Any idea about new 9.2 isos and Austin some questions.
On Monday 03 November 2003 11:26 am, Galileo wrote: > BH> I dont use the conf files at all. > It looks like simplicity is the best way : > > BH> then I copy the i586 tree myself. I add whatever i want onto my cd's > from BH> contribs, plf, the club, texstar, updates, misc, and my own custom > made BH> rpm's. I then run makecd with just the path to my i586 directory > like so: BH> i586/misc/MakeCD --isodir iso -a i586 > I have just run a build process so hopefully everything will be ok. > One thing : > I have copied the contents of the first 3 cd to /home/test and > replaced all the obsolete packages with the updated ones. it was a > painful process to delete all of the old stuff so is the build script > "smart" enough to leave out the old ones if someone just copies the > updates over to RPMS dir ? well yes it will install newer ones first and this should not be an issue but I delete the older ones also. > > Wow that was fast. Build process is done but it looks like it > something went wrong. > I have this error : > > REJECTED master disc 1 HTML-Embperl-1.3.28_1.3.4-1mdk.i586 (Missing > dependencies: apache-modules) REJECTED master disc 1 > apache-1.3.28-3mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: apache-modules) REJECTED > master disc 1 apache-mod_perl-1.3.28_1.28-1mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: > apache-modules) REJECTED master disc 1 proftpd-1.2.8-4mdk.i586 (not > selected) > REJECTED master disc 1 proftpd-anonymous-1.2.8-4mdk.i586 (not selected) this is normal to see and is not to big an issue the only ones that are issues are the ones were there are missing depencies. The others that say not selected just means they did not go into the first cd. The ones with missing depencies are the ones you will need to decide if they are important to you. if they are not then dont worry about it. In my case I run apache 2 so the above errors would not bother me at all. > > > an in iso dir I have: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake]# ll -h iso/ > total 1.5G > -rw-r--r--1 root root 650M Nov 4 20:19 > 2-Cooker-download.iso -rw-r--r--1 root root 649M Nov 4 > 20:20 3-Cooker-download.iso -rw-r--r--1 root root 143M Nov > 4 20:20 4-Cooker-download.iso drwxr-xr-x2 root root6 > Nov 4 20:18 Cooker-download/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake]# ll -h > iso/Cooker-download/ > total 0 > > Any advice ? that looks about right. Enjoy your new cd's.also you will want to replace the images so you install cd does not kill lg drives. Me I never use them as they are garbage and I was not worried at all by this but i replaced the images anyway since I figured others may ask for this. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
On Monday 03 November 2003 06:25 am, David Coe wrote: > Ah .. the [EMAIL PROTECTED] that was (or still is). well [EMAIL PROTECTED] has merged into [EMAIL PROTECTED] but that is a small amount of what [EMAIL PROTECTED] does. > > > I also know since i have started rebuilding the mandrake rpm's with some > > extreme optimizations that I do not see this behavior at all on my > > mandrake boxen. However I have had issues with the mandrake builds of > > mozilla for about 2 years now they just randomly lock up, completely > > crash, or the one that really bugs me is that after a while of use it > > gets so that you can not select text in the address bar. You have to shut > > it down to fix this. Because of this I almost never use the mandrake > > rpm's for mozilla. > > I did wonder about athlons and the degree of optimization. I recall the > same scenario at MDK 9.1 release time. Buchan's "early-bird" Mozilla 1.3 > migrated to cooker AFAIR mainly with -O3 moved back to -O2 and what felt > like a drop in stability. The abrupt closure I see, the lock-up rather > rarely and the loss of text selection not at all. well here are the flags I'm playing with now. optflags: athlon -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=athlon-xp -ffast-math -fno-strength-reduce -fforce-addr -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -frerun-cse-after-loop -frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args -fprefetch-loop-arrays out of those the -O3 and --march=athlon-xp will give the biggest boost. and these can not be used for everything. glibc had to be backed off some bug gcc compiled fine. xfree had to be backed off some also but qt compiles fine with these. It is much snappier on my athlon machine I'm slowly working on more things. KDE is next and possibly the kernel but i dont really feel like playing with the kernel rpm much. > > > My regular usage is to have 1 or 2 mozilla windows open with maybe 10 or > > 15 tabs per window. This I have running for possibly weeks. With the > > mandrake builds I get maybe 3 or 4 days max. > > That sounds like you're dispensing with xft and/or using Mozilla's own > binaries. Fortunately (like OO.o) installation is very easy :-). yes I am and I tell you what I miss xft very much. Jaggy mozilla is no fun. I have also been playing with the custom builds of thunderbird and firebird from mozillazine. These are done by others in the community. They run very nice. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Any idea about new 9.2 isos and Austin some questions.
On Monday 03 November 2003 05:59 am, Galileo wrote: > Would you be interested in writing a short howto for the rest of us > who don't know how to do it ? > I have been able to build a few isos on my own but I'm not really > satisfied. I suppose that my main problem is that I don't understand > conf files enough. I dont use the conf files at all. I grab the cooker at the time when it it is frozen for final pressing of the cd's. If you watch warly will tell you when the branch. then I copy the i586 tree myself. I add whatever i want onto my cd's from contribs, plf, the club, texstar, updates, misc, and my own custom made rpm's. I then run makecd with just the path to my i586 directory like so: i586/misc/MakeCD --isodir iso -a i586 this leaves me with all my cd's in iso which will be right next to the i586 dir. Now during the build whack the output. If anything is failing that you are unsure about either rebuild the package and fix it or if you dont care about that package then leave it alone. To get my cooker tree I use fmirror. I know I have seen many here talk about rsync but it simply does not interest me and fmirror more or less does the same thing. I use fmirror to weed out the packages I dont want like others do with rsync so I dont have to worry about even wasting my bandwidth on packages I won't usually use. If I ever need them they are just a download away. When I get done (it may take a few runs with makecd to get everything the way you want ) I have nice shiny new iso's. When you get it just the way you want then goto Mandrake/base and edit rpmsrate so that you get a higher chance of getting the rpm's installed during autoinstall that you want. For instance I add a few kde themes in there and audacity to the sound apps. Then I add bibletime to the kde apps. After this step then make one last set of cd's and burn them and you are set. Now whenever you need a new set of cd's jsut add the latest updates and anything else you want and run makecd again. One word to note here this will give you cd's that call themselves cooker download edition but it will package any rpm's you have included untill they are all packaged or rejected. In my case it was 5 cd's. With all of contribs, international, emacs and all the games that are normaly in main and without srpms you will get 9 cd's. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
On Monday 03 November 2003 05:01 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > Not really. You can temorarily get it back working by minimizing and > switching back to the window you were using, sometimes you need to do it > more than once (and there are other methods). But AFAIK this is not > processort specific, and may be GTK2/KDE bug. hm interesting that should be about right. and I think i may have used that before now that I think about it. I think that was my7 point is that it was not processor specific since i have been doing some custom athlon builds that are highly optimized and it has not changed this as far as I can tell. I dont get this with firebird though. > > > Because > > of this I almost never use the mandrake rpm's for mozilla. > > So, which binaries work ok then? Mozilla 1.0.x->1.2.x worked fine using > Mandrake builds, so I think it is a GTK2 issue (and you wouldn't see it > on GTK1.x builds). well the generic nightlies from mozilla.org. I rarely run the official builds. They all within reason seem to run about the same sometimes I'll get one that was a bad build but it's not often. > > My regular use is at least 2 windows open, usually > 25 tabs open total. > I probably have to do the minimize->ALT-SHIFT-TAB trick about once every > two hours or so of use. > > Fred tried to reproduce it, but didn't succeed, and I don't think he'll > take kindly to running KDE and Mozilla for a week to find it ... he > complained as it was about having to run Mozilla instead of epiphany ;-). Ah yes I suppose when they dont use it for thier own work then they dont care as much when it is broken. On this filosiphy I have been working on a custom auto install of windows xp also. It consumed allot of time but you know what after working with it and getting it working well I decided that I had a choice of what I want to support with that level of above and beyond the call of duty type or support. I decided that I would rather have a working linux and so to that end I have been putting extra time lately into the linux apps I want to see working well. If I dont like the way gimp for instance is done well then I'll offer my help to get it to the place were others will find it more useful also. It's a hard choice but I know which os I want to support. I would see this as the same. They dont want to support kde and so they dont. It's that simple. I feel the same about gnome and when I roll out a server it runs kde and my customers love the way it acts more or less like windows. > > Regards, > Buchan -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk Stability
On Monday 03 November 2003 03:55 am, David Coe wrote: > It is indeed sporadic - so much so that I can not yet be fully sure that > --with-pthreads has corrected the problem. Nonetheless, 1 in 20 requires > caution and evasive action from the user. > > > I have been running 1.5-0.91mdk on my 9.1 box at home for almost 2 weeks > > now, also with no problems. > > Can't comment, although Mozilla's own tarball was also fine. > > David You know I run [EMAIL PROTECTED] clients on some machines and we had a similar problem. What we found was that some very specific sse optimizations would cause issues on only some athlons. Mostly the thourobred b's and bartons. I'm not sure the reason you are seeing this and it only occurred when pushing the cpu's very hard. I also know since i have started rebuilding the mandrake rpm's with some extreme optimizations that I do not see this behavior at all on my mandrake boxen. However I have had issues with the mandrake builds of mozilla for about 2 years now they just randomly lock up, completely crash, or the one that really bugs me is that after a while of use it gets so that you can not select text in the address bar. You have to shut it down to fix this. Because of this I almost never use the mandrake rpm's for mozilla. My regular usage is to have 1 or 2 mozilla windows open with maybe 10 or 15 tabs per window. This I have running for possibly weeks. With the mandrake builds I get maybe 3 or 4 days max. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Updated ATI Kernel Modules
On Sunday 02 November 2003 07:00 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > Are we going to see updated ATI kernel modules for the 9.2 kernel updates? yes these are much more um well they are very needed. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Any idea about new 9.2 isos and Austin some questions.
On Sunday 02 November 2003 02:39 pm, Francisco Alcaraz wrote: > Does anyone know when the 9.2 isos with the kernel problem > solved will be avalaible? > > Regards well i have finished my own set and have made my own iso's but I don't think that is what you mean. They are not fancy and still say cooker 9.2 when you install them but they still pull updates from the 9.2 tree. I would put up a torrent but I have stuffed allot of club stuff in there and don't think it is fair to give out commercial apps and drivers. But I would not mind passing them out to club members. They also include plf and a few other things and come to 5 cd's. Only down side there is no international stuff (English only), no emacs, and most of the games are not in there but it will play dvd's out of the box and is great for multimedia stuff. By the way Austin if you read this I have been playing with recording using audacity and it will get funny static kind of in the recordings if you don't use ext3. Any other journal file system will produce this although riser does it worse than xfs. Last but not least ardure will crash kde back to the login window. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] What is an LG CD-ROM?
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:05 am, Jos wrote: > Duh... that is by design... thin wires that keep the grid on its place. > Read any good site about CRTs and you'll find info about this. > > Jos and it only affects trinitron based monitors. Thats why I know lots of people wont touch em. Those little lines drive them nuts. There are plenty of monitors not based on trinitron technology that don't have this bad side effect. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 08:56 am, Götz Waschk wrote: > Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 18:17:45 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne: > > > The readme said so, because it's still beta. I can change this to gtk2 > > > in the next package, but we should test this first. > > > > I'm going home now, so I will try it on 9.1 with gtk2 (see if I can > > build wxmozilla and documancer), and try it on cooker tomorrow (and some > > other wxPython stuff, wxGlade should be enough to test it well I > > think?). At least things will look better ... > > I've prepared some untested packages of wxPythonGTK with gtk2 and > unicode support: > http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake > > Please give them a try. I'll test them ASAP with nicotine and > bittorrent-gui. > > CU it works fine with abc (another bittorent gui). It did not work with audacity as your version of wxgtk is older than what audacity wants. Audacity wants 2.5 and you are using 2.4 but as stated abc works like it ever did with it. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] network icon on deskop?
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 02:55 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Also, my "Directory" entry doesn't have a tree that expands, if you try > an expand it, you get an error "Can't find parent item > ldap://ldap.cae.co.za/?one in the tree. Internal error." > > Also, double clicking on an entry gives you the dn for the entry in > KWrite (no attributes even). I guess we need a kpart for LDIF. > > I have attached two files, modify them (at least the ldap.desktop if you > have an LDAP server) and place them in > .kde/share/apps/konqsidebartng/virtual_folders/services > > Regards, > Buchan > Did not try the ldap one as I don't have ldap running yet. For the smb one though it indeed does see at least one system on my network but not the others. Lisa does see them but with no name resolution so they are all ip addies. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: LG Drives
On Saturday 25 October 2003 04:44 pm, Tim Sawchuck wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:23:23 -0700 > > Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment: > > On Saturday 25 October 2003 05:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > > > SO it turns out to be a firmware bug after all that. I really hope you > > > guys don't take the heat for this in the court of public opinion. > > > > I think i posted a few days back this was most likely the case. lg drives > > are garbage. They are maybe good for target practice but that is about > > all. > > Well, Mdk 9.2 hit the bullseye! (uh-oh, ducking and run like hell. ) > > Tim well good ridance. Hopefully people will quit buying garbage dells also since dell uses so many other garbage parts besides the lgs. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
On Sunday 26 October 2003 01:51 am, John Allen wrote: > Could you post a .conf file for creating 2 DVD-R's? > > Currently I just run MakeCD without specifying a config file; it is better > to specify a config file? same here the only real difference is that your cd's will read cooker download edition or something like that instead of reading as mandrake 9.2, 10, or 10.1, etc. Also with the config file you can specifiy things and customize the install a little more. For me i just edit the base/rpmsrate and then run makecd. If you want dvd you can use --disksize but i do not remember the exact size for a dvd. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: LG Drives
On Saturday 25 October 2003 05:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > SO it turns out to be a firmware bug after all that. I really hope you > guys don't take the heat for this in the court of public opinion. I think i posted a few days back this was most likely the case. lg drives are garbage. They are maybe good for target practice but that is about all. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Anyone else having trouble fetching MandrakeClub RPMs?
On Saturday 25 October 2003 06:39 am, Leon Brooks wrote: > Every time I go to download an RPM I get asked to log in. When I log in, > the site sends me back to the welcome screen. When I work my way back > down to the download, it asks me to log in again. > > Immediately before this, Konqueror was throwing "Malformed URL" at me in > return for a perfectly happy-looking HTTPS download URL. Here is an > example of a URL which is currently asking me to log in but was at one > stage considered "Malformed": > > https://download.mandrakeclub.com/downloads/comm/9.2/i586/NVIDIA_GLX-4496-2 >.1.92mdk.i586.rpm > > Mozilla just does the login loop for me, has never complained about > malformation. System is 9.2-ish made from Cooker while it was frozen. > > Cheers; Leon well more or less the club has always been like this for me. I've complained about it multiple times but get no response. Oh well not that I care that much but for me if I cant get the rpm's some way besides urpmi they are worthless to me. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
On Friday 24 October 2003 03:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Most people are just clueless, and run Redhat because everyone else does, > Debian because they think they don't need newer software releases, or > Gentoo because they think that cool compile flags will really make their > firewall run faster. yes so true. > > > Maybe I should try some other distribution but since i have been using > > Mandrake since 7.0 or so it would be really sad. > > Instead of dissing a distro you have significant investment in, maybe you > could actually help to improve it? Many of us do, and that is one reason > why it *is* actually worthwhile. > > Oh yes, of course you should always read the errata before installing. And > maybe someone needs to add the menu issue to it for now. > > BTW, doesn't logging out and back in fix it? update-menus should be run > from /etc/X11/xinit.d I think? no it does not. I'm not sure why you dont see it but almost every system here that I install has this issue to one degree or another. It does not matter weather I use my own home grown cd's or if I use the 3 cd powerpack from the club I get he same issues. To make matters even worse the updates dont exactly fix the issue with the updates at least things dont disappear anymore but new apps are not added to the menus either. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
On Friday 24 October 2003 10:52 am, Galileo wrote: > "kernel-2.4.22.10mdk" > this is the "old" kernel, new is 18 > So no new drivers. > It doesn't matter to me really but it if you read on one page that they > should be there then they should be there. > ok I understand now > > BH> um yes this does happen but the updates fix this. On the downside they > also BH> trigger this so you are left having to do ctrl-alt-f1 or so login > as root and BH> type update-menus -v. The downside is it deletes all the > links off of kicker BH> also and they dont come back. > > Imagine this happening to a newbee. He would be lost totally and would > say this mandrake thing is a piece of crap. hm yes and even with the updates I just noticed some items are not showing up properly until I update-menus from a terminal but at least they are not all disappearing anymore. > > BH> well for the redhat versions that give you the nice server stuff that > mandrake BH> does it will cost you between 1500 - 2500. I find the mandrake > servers are in BH> higher usage and the powerpack includes more or less the > same stuff you have BH> to pay much more for if you would run suse or > redhat. > > I know that's probably the reason that I have been using mandrake all > this time. > Don't get me wrong I like mandrake really but that is why these kind > of things get me really mad. Most people don't know that Mandrake is > much better server distribution that RH. For example under RH iptables > doesn't know how to autoprobe for ip_conntrack_ftp for example. > Under ML all is automated. But I repeat this kind of stuff leave a > very bad impression to people who are not familiar with ML. Yes I agree. but I still use mandrake because the other options are so well bad. And yes if mandrake only looks bad then that is enough to scare them off. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
On Friday 24 October 2003 09:55 am, Galileo wrote: > All of the updates for 9.2 have an invalid gpg signature > For example : > rpm --checksig kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm > returns : > kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm: sha1 md5 (GPG) NOT OK (MISSING KEYS: > GPG#22458a98) i even imported gpg key from > https://www.mandrakesecure.net/RPM-GPG-KEYS same thing. > I used fr2.rpmfind.net to download updates. > > > Next : > On this page > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020 > > Mandrake says that all of the mandrakeclub commercial drivers are > available. > Quote: > "New commercial drivers for this kernel are available at Mandrake > Club." > Now my English is a bit rusty but this should mean that they are there > wright NOW ! > I don't see them here : > http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/comm/9.2/i586/ByDate.html um they are. Maybe you didn't look right at the top of the page but listed right there are drivers for ati, nvidia, winmodems and whatnot else. > > Next: > After updating my system KDE lost its desktop and also menus. > Deleting a user and adding it again didn't work. > I wasn't even able to run rxvt since alt+f2 didn't work. > Luckily there was menudrake in the menus so i restored the original > menus. um yes this does happen but the updates fix this. On the downside they also trigger this so you are left having to do ctrl-alt-f1 or so login as root and type update-menus -v. The downside is it deletes all the links off of kicker also and they dont come back. > > You people need a reality check. And some really heavy quality > assuring since this is really unprofessional. I don't remember > something like this happening before. > Now desktop issues don't bother me really but if such obvious things > are happening what is going to happen with nonobvious. > I'm currently building a new firewall/ruter using 9.2 and I'm starting > to question myself should i do it with 9.2. yes it's fine i have one setup already and it is working very well. the server stuff is top notch. > I can't afford such stupid things to happen on a central firewall in my > network. I run quite a few clients on mine and have them setup for the local newspaper also which experienced a hard drive failure and is actually running cooker from a few weeks after rc2. It is doing duty as a firewall just fine. > > Now how do you think this looks in the eyes of a desktop user ? > It shoes that Mandrake is really unprofessional. > > It's no wonder that people look at me weird when a say that i use > Mandrake for all of my servers. well for the redhat versions that give you the nice server stuff that mandrake does it will cost you between 1500 - 2500. I find the mandrake servers are in higher usage and the powerpack includes more or less the same stuff you have to pay much more for if you would run suse or redhat. If you want older packages but that are tried and tested more mandrake also makes a server version for much more but if you want a lower cost with the same amount of functionality redhat and suse don't even have anything that will compete with mandrake. > Maybe I should try some other distribution but since i have been using > Mandrake since 7.0 or so it would be really sad. > > Just my 0.2 $. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] network icon on deskop?
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (sorry, but it's just depressing to see a feature which worked great in > 9.0 trashed, when there is only one other distro with the same feature, > and they get rave reviews for it ... and I don't feel confident enough in > it being working sufficiently in 9.1 and 9.2 to actually do any work > advertising it - even if it was responsible for getting 10 desktops into > an enterprise windows network) > > Regards, > Buchan yes can you say corel linux way back when had this it was great, xandros has it now as well as lindows, oh and dont forget about ark linux which does this just fine also. We are more than a little behind on this if so many others can have it working just fine and in the case of corel that was literally years ago. It is a testament though that bero with ark linux has had it working for about a year now also. Anybody here remember when bero joined mandrake to help setup the i586 builds besides me? And to however above that said this is a bad idea you have no idea what you are talking about. This is a sorely needed feature. On a side note I love admining my boxen with kio_fish it is so nice to edit files from the gui and then just restart the deamon from a terminal. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > > Thanks guys for all your hard work. If you need help troubleshooting > > the scsi problems I have three downed servers that I can test on. > > could you fill in a bug report with oops message if possible or any > error message availlable on text consoles ? > thanks filed a report on bugzilla it would seem that the installer does not like drives with macos partitions on them I hope this helps. One more little thing the install includes bittorent-gui but not bittorent. I'll file another report here shortly as k3b also does not work with my cd burner but arson does see it fine. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:40 am, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: > don't play with HPT ! :) > AFAIK they don't have native SATA chip yet, > the cards are plain PATA 133 controlers with SATA bridges, > and acording to lkml are suported by the hpt374 driver (PATA133) > > svetljo thanks promise is doing the same though. I'll stay away from the high point for now at least I have a si card and also with on the motherboard to test with. Thanks. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:41 am, Brad Felmey wrote: > I _do_ support a site full of workstations. It's amazing what cron and a > squid cache will do. or a local repository in my case. Download once and have it available for everybody. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 04:59 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Hi, > > Several people are reporting that installing the 9.2 totally > fried their LG cdrom drive. Luis Alves on cooker is reporting > that problem on an IBM PC 300 PL machine, with a LG CRD-8400B. On > MandrakeClub an article[1] reports that this happens on a Dell > Optiplex GX1 machine, with CRD-8482B and CRD-8400B models. > > I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST > CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to > the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B, > 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work nice). this would be interesting to see the outcome of but LG drives are of particularly low quality. It would be my guess that they are simply dying from end of life span. It is not unheard of to have cdroms die while in use. On a side note it would be advisable to stay away from aopen drives also. Of course this goes without saying that you will want to stay way from any company that resells these drives also. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yes this is true also I should file a bug report for the scsi being > > broke in the kernel. I have three machines with two different kinds > > of scsi cards. All of them crash trying to format the hard > > drives. So I know this is not isolated in my case. I think i even > > two or three more systems I could test this on. > > it's still time to do so that a workaround or a fix can be found Sure I try to get to it today. I can at least test on one box today but I think the error was the same for them all. Could be wrong though. > > > These systems can not be tested with rc's because they are > > production boxen. it's kind of damned if you do damned if you dont > > I guess. However on my desktop it works great. The bad part is that > > due a scsi hard drive failure I really needed to upgrade and well I > > was not able to and ended up having to put up a whole new server > > without scsi. It's all on a 80 gig maxtor now. The other systems > > dont have ide they are scsi only. > > well, since the boot kernel and the distro kernel are not the same, > you may upgrade your machines by doring a regular update or an update > through urpmi (urpmi urpmi; urpmi --auto-select) on the one box this was not an option as the hard drive went out I had no choice but to save my config files and start over. > > > Thanks guys for all your hard work. If you need help troubleshooting > > the scsi problems I have three downed servers that I can test on. > > could you fill in a bug report with oops message if possible or any > error message availlable on text consoles ? > thanks sure I'll try it here. It depends on how busy I get today but at the least I can get it done within the next two or three days. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:31 am, Greg Meyer wrote: > I think all you should have to do is replace the packages and then run some > scripts that update the package lists in the Mandrake/base directory. > gendistrib should be one, but I don't know of the others. you dont need to run gendistrib unless you want to use your repository for ftp or hard drive install. makecd will do all this stuff for you when making cd's. You may want to change the Mandrake/base rpmsrate if you dont like mandrakes install options but that is not that critical. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:56 am, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: > > On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:37 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > > > So do I. That's interest me. > > > I don't think we can do this just with makecd, and some updates are > > > interesting from the install ( I was thinking of kernel updates and > > > better ACPI/SATA support ) > > > > sata worked out of the box with silicone image controlers. > > and probably with ICH5/ VIA/ Promise too ?-) > ((which were missing in 2.4.22-10mdk)) > > svetljo I support promise as little as possible here in my shop they have had over the years a bad habit of causing hard drive corruption and other issues. Buggy drivers under windows. Selling half broke chipsets to the mobo manufactures as simple ata controllers these then in turn cause all kinds of problems. My data is just not worth it. Not to mention the performance of the promise solution is no really not any faster than ata 133 for any regular use. In my testing here with si controllers the speed with a single 80gig sata maxtor was about the same as 2 ata 133 40 gig maxtors running as a raid 0 array on a ata 133 high point controller. The 40 gigs were 2 meg cache and the 80gig was 8meg cache. All in all I was impressed with the speed and the sustained throughput was very impressive. Promise will not give you those numbers. As for via and I assume intel sata I cant say as I dont have any to test on. I wanted to pick up a high point sata controller for testing also but have not yet so it may not be supported either. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:37 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > So do I. That's interest me. > I don't think we can do this just with makecd, and some updates are > interesting from the install ( I was thinking of kernel updates and > better ACPI/SATA support ) sata worked out of the box with silicone image controlers. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:31 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > actually mdk9.2 was quite better than previous releases regarding > quality. yes indeed as a user since 5.3 I have seen huge improvements in 9.2 but then the whole 9.x series has for the most part been great. Really those out there who are complaining have more or less the same issues under redhat and suse not to mention lindows. However lindows and xandros use such old packages that really the kernel is most likely the only thing up to date. Their kde sure isn't. > > > > And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the > > > beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release... > > > > Oh come on, you can't blame everyone else that you can't fix bugs > > that aren't reported. There are so many bugs that were reported and > > not fixed. > > sadly, they were obvious bugs that could have been fixed earlier > indeed Yes this is true also I should file a bug report for the scsi being broke in the kernel. I have three machines with two different kinds of scsi cards. All of them crash trying to format the hard drives. So I know this is not isolated in my case. I think i even two or three more systems I could test this on. These systems can not be tested with rc's because they are production boxen. it's kind of damned if you do damned if you dont I guess. However on my desktop it works great. The bad part is that due a scsi hard drive failure I really needed to upgrade and well I was not able to and ended up having to put up a whole new server without scsi. It's all on a 80 gig maxtor now. The other systems dont have ide they are scsi only. I will say however that 9.2 works great with nforce motherboards, game theatre xp sound cards and ati radeons though. This is a first to have such hardware working perfectly out of the box on mandrake. Thanks guys for all your hard work. If you need help troubleshooting the scsi problems I have three downed servers that I can test on. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Torrent ha ha ha.
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:24 am, Pierre Jarillon wrote: > I use bittorrent-shadowsclient-5.8.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm which allows to see > the torrents working. (Advanced). Perhaps can you see my PC : 82.65.11.65 > (now). I upload only for 3 days and I have uploaded twice more than I > downloaded. I can upload only at 13 kiB/s but this is better than nothing. > Little torrents make great rivers! thanks I did not know it was there. I've been trying to get abc working but no luck so far. It works well under windows though but that does me no good. I installed it and it is much nicer than the regular bt client. > > http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ shows the state : few people upload > when download is finished. It will be necessary to make a campaign to > explain this before the next time. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Torrent ha ha ha.
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:40 am, Pierre Jarillon wrote: > Open your firewall ports 6881..6999 > I had the same problem and have ever explain on this list. > Have a look at http://www.mandrakeclub.com/ it is explained too. > > http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1302&mode=nocomments > d) "The download rate is very slow" > > read carefully... I have and i already opened those ports at one time. For curiosity I opened them again like mentioned there and I'm getting normal speeds 0k down and normal 20k up. I'm trying to say it makes more difference who you share with rather than all this other garbage. If there are others sharing nicely you get good downloads if they limit their upload to really small amounts and dont leave the torrent open when it's done then you get bad speeds. But really this is to say thank you to those who shared. BY the way when that happens with the same network settings on my firewall I get about 20k down and 20k up. It's the people that make the difference. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake uses Photoshop... What a pity!
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:19 am, Pascal Terjan wrote: > Maybe you're right for people that start with photoshop... > I started image manipulation with paint shop pro, each time I tryied to > use photoshop I lost hours trying to do simple stuff. Then I switched to > Linux and since the first time I ran GIMP I achieved what I wanted quite > easily. I really prefer it's user interface. > For the layers, could you explain the problem ? Same here I have used the gimp since redhat 5.0 and I love it. I have never really used anything else. Well I have but not for long. I can get everything I need done and to me photoshop seems unintuitive. My only beef wit the mandrake version of the gimp is that they dont include the user filter for using filter factory filters. Um in this one case I use the gimp under windows because it does have this and I can use quite a few nifty filters. As stated in another email the only thing that photoshop really does better is cmyk for when you goto the printers. The gimp will supposedly do this in the next version but I have not seen it in 1.3 yet so I'm unsure. > > There is one major thing missing in GIMP : you keep only the result of > filters and cannot modify parameters of the ones applied before. Except > for that, I have no blame for GIMP. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Torrent ha ha ha.
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 10:32 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > Do you mind if I agree with you? naw this is not mandrake i have tried a few other torrents also and I am almost always dowloading at about 2-6k max when my upload is at 25k this goes on for days and weeks before I get the whole thing. Sometimes it jumps up to 25k down and up. At those times I know somebody is being nice out there. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Monday 20 October 2003 06:44 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > regarding "real" end users, the odds are low that he'll use either vi > or emacs. > the same for mc... the user'll use konq instead > > "trully interested" packages is a very personal subject. eg i tootally > disagree with you and i think emacs is infinitevely more usefull than > mc ... for me. > > neither me or you is a typicall end user i bet. I think my argument went off track here My point was not to include one or the other. You are correct that one of the tools mentioned are used by any of the ""normal"" users out there but hey you know some people like to pick at one little thing and blow it out of proportion. My only point was that emacs is huge and not used by the majority of real users. Which we on this list are not. We are sysadmin of developer types which are not the norm by any means. We have ideas on what is usefull and all the end users care about is does it work with my hardware will my digital camera work with my computer is there software to do what I want to do and sadly were can I buy more software. they are so used to being taken advantage of they really have no idea that there are so many little companies ripping them off selling them things that windows either includes but is hidden or there is another program that does the same thing for free. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Another niggle for 9.2 (not t obad though)
On Monday 20 October 2003 05:59 am, John Allen wrote: > On Monday 20 October 2003 13:29, Brook Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday 20 October 2003 04:28 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > > > will you be nice enough to redo an install, save the config files, run > > > mousedrake and post here a diff of the config files before and after > > > running mousedrake ? > > > > yes I could but I have found the problem. I share one monitor between a > > windows box and a linux box and I have one of those little switch boxes > > that shares the monitor keyboard and mouse. It works well accept for one > > thing when I switch back and forth between linux and windows it looses > > the mouse wheel. Everything else works it is just the mouse wheel that > > gets lost. > > Mine does something similar. But if I just roll the wheel for a bit > (10+secs) it recovers. If that fails the a quick Ctrl+Alt+F1 followed by > Ctrl+Alt+F7 usually sorts it out. you know that did it switching terminals that is. I used to have a similar problem with xfree. It would just hang up and switching terminals would fix it. It was kind of strange though as the fonts would still render but everything else was kind of see though. It was bazzar looking at the least. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Monday 20 October 2003 05:21 am, Götz Waschk wrote: > I'm not against toys, after all, I've done recent releases of > xscreensaver and rss_glx, fireflies and gdesklets for the contribs. > But this stuff isn't really useful, so if the space is restricted, > useful apps are more important. > > And please don't mix up normal users with stupid users. you dont deal with the windows users that i do. Allot of them are competent but about 25% are not really. 50% are more or less normal but still have limited knowledge of the computer and limited expertise. The last 25% are people like those of us on this list. We are not the majority. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Monday 20 October 2003 07:11 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > But the discovery pack does not need this this is exactly my point. I'm not talking about the powerpack but who is the discovery pack for. It is to convert windows users. > > > Without them, you can't take a distribution seriously. Sure, the > > bootsplash and kde themes toys are important for the first impression, > > but the usefulness of the included software create the quality of the > > distribution. What's more useful, GNU emacs, which is God and can do > > everything, or kde screensavers, which are eye candy but don't > > increase your productivity. > > yes, they increase my screen lifetime ! :p > I have several workstations, and people a=on these wortkstation doesn't > use emacs/vi/... > We need vi as this is the default editor for rescue, but the minimal > version. In discovery pack emacs is not needed. > Normal users like toys, normal users like having a beatiful like > system/OS, normal users like some fancy screensavers ( look in windows > world all the different kind of screensaver you can dl on the net ). > Discovery pack is for normal users. yes exactly. > > I think we need 3 rpms trees : > - the first tree will be the base for discovery pack, > - the second add all the others packages ( so is include in powerpack > and more, the third iso in dl edition ) > - and the third tree remains the contrib one -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Monday 20 October 2003 03:03 am, David Walser wrote: > But one thing you all are losing in this discussion...emacs isn't only used > by developers. It's also used by sysadmins! Every system needs a > sysadmin. yes maybe but in this case mc is superior for that kind of work. it can actually do more of the sysadmin type stuff. Tell you what give me a list of what emacs does for the sysadmin I'll match it with mc I bet you. And programming a bunch of lisp plugins on the fly doesn't count. I'm talking about what it can and can't do. But i realy could care less if both mc and emacs are dropped from the basic cd's I was just showing that emacs does indeed take up a huge amount of space. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Monday 20 October 2003 02:58 am, David Walser wrote: > Sorry Brook, you're way off. I was a Windows convert many years ago, and > emacs was the only text editor that I 1) cared about and 2) could figure > out. Without emacs I would have missed the MS-DOS Editor way too much. sorry your not a typical windows user. I know I won a computer store and get to deal with them every day. Computer illiteracy is much higher than most on this list would every believe. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Another niggle for 9.2 (not t obad though)
On Monday 20 October 2003 04:28 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > will you be nice enough to redo an install, save the config files, run > mousedrake and post here a diff of the config files before and after > running mousedrake ? yes I could but I have found the problem. I share one monitor between a windows box and a linux box and I have one of those little switch boxes that shares the monitor keyboard and mouse. It works well accept for one thing when I switch back and forth between linux and windows it looses the mouse wheel. Everything else works it is just the mouse wheel that gets lost. I just noticed that gpm is not running on my linux box or else I would restart it. In the past that would fix this kind of thing. However if I restart the xserver the mouse will work again untill I switch back to the windows box. On the bright side windows is loosing the wheel also. > > /etc/sysconfig/mouse > /etc/X11/xinit.d/mouse_buttons > /etc/X11/xinit.d/auxmouse_buttons > /etc/X11/XF86Config > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 I can still do this if you like. as I have just managed to get the 3cdpack from the club downloaded and was planning to make an install anyway. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] LM9.2: What a nice release!
On Sunday 19 October 2003 12:32 pm, Frederic Soulier wrote: > My hardware is: > 2 x P3 733MHz (Supermicro mobo) > 512Mb Ram > 3 x HD (2 are connected to a Promise Ultra100TX2) ~150Gb total > SB Live! 1024 > PCI card with 3 x USB2 ports and 2 x Firewire 400 ports > Internal CD-RW (SCSI using an Adaptec 29140N) > Internal Pioneer DVD-R106 (IDE) > Internal Tape drive > > External USB Storage (6Gb HD) > External Firewire enclosure (1 x 120Gb HD + 1 x 20Gb HD) > iPod 30Gb > Sony Digital Camera DSC-F505 on the bright side I have a happy report using this hardware. Win xp cant even do this without using a heavily modified installer that has taken me a few months to get working. epox 8rda3+ nforce motherboard: the installer found the chipset and also the sound and it worked great. ati radeon 8500: again proper drivers were installed and it was working great but I do believe this was working well before. sata on a silicone image controller: this worked great also installing onto a maxtor sata 80 gig drive. Hercules game theater xp sound card: For the first time this worked great also and I was able to record with it using audacity. Now in past releases some of this stuff did not work at all or not properly. I would say all in all this is a very fine distro. 9.2 is the best one I've seen since about 6.0 or 6.5. Not to say the others were not good but rather to say I'm highly impressed at this time the same way 6.5 impressed me back then for what it could do and what it included. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 09:59 am, Jan Ciger wrote: > They are still on the 9.2 CDs, they weren't left out. Just that mc is > not installed by default. Is it so difficult to either select mc during > install or tell the newbie to "urpmi mc" ? What is your point ? It was a > decision by Mandrakesoft to not install mc by default, we may not agree > with it but whining in Cooker is not going to change it. This discussion > was here already and now it is too late for it anyway. not going to worry about the rest as you are not reading properly so I wont answer. I don't really care about mc per say lets say I'm not even talking about mc. I was mentioning all the related emacs packages not just xemacs. I think that about clears up your arguments and if your read correctly I said I include all the main packages accept the games and only the needed gnome stuff from contribs. Please do read a little better and think out your answers before you respond. here is a partial list of 9.1 only as I dont have them local and no easy way to get them other than rpmsearch. Name : emacs-X11 Version : 21.2.93 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Date : 2003-01-29 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : emacs-21.2.93-2mdk.src.rpm Size : 5883326 Name : xemacs-mule Version : 21.4.12 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm Size : 27610093 Name : emacs Version : 21.2.93 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Date : 2003-01-29 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : emacs-21.2.93-2mdk.src.rpm Size : 21090232 Name : xemacs-info Version : 21.4.12 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm Size : 3526956 Name : xemacs Version : 21.4.12 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm Size : 53239331 none of these packages accept for xemacs-info are very small in size. they all combined are well close to the numbers I gave. I dont know the conversion right off but they are easily around 60 megs the other packages I was thinking about which would have brought it close to 100 are in contribs. Anyway this was for mandrake 9.1 anyway so I dont know exact number for 9.2 or the current cooker it's hard to measure the size of them when they are not on your system. As for the rest of what you said I'm not sure I think you are a little confused and not reading my responses correctly. Please keep an open mind and reread them to understand. Ah just when you think cooker is getting a little boring. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 09:23 am, Götz Waschk wrote: > Who's more important, the stupid windows convert, or the developer? If > you remove emacs from the CD, you'll scare of the developers. No > developers means no new software. BTW it's not emacs that is growing > and growing and taking away the CD space but the new generations of > GUI software, especially KDE. it does not matter if it is growing it was to big to begin with. And it is growing there are now special packages for tex, and who knows what else that are added to add extra features to emacs. The Idea is not weather or not to include them but were to include them. Who are they trying to market with the free download edition. Developers I sure hope not as allot of the devel libs and things that are needed are not really in there. To get a good devel box going you may need libs out of contribs along with the devel counterparts and many other things. It gets even worse if you develop for gnome as a fair amount of gnome libs are in contribs. Hm so if the free version is not geared to developers per say who is it marketed to? It should be first priority to find the target market and target them. As for the powerpack edition who is the target market for that? Is it something allot of developers may pick up? YES. Is it something that includes sources if they need it? YES. Are we seeing a pattern yet? So since it seems like a good fit for the powerpack and not the download edition. There is some space that could be saved in the download edition to the tune of about 60 megs at the least. I'm not sure how many emacs related rpm's are included but the main one is at least 35 megs or so and there are a ton of related ones that are included. Well not a ton but a fair amount. I'm guessing at about 60 megs worth. That would be more than enough space to include whatever else they needed to go into the download edition. And let us not forget anybody could simply download the latest tree from ftp and roll their own if they dont like the way mandrake does it. Another thing that mandrake could do is provide urpmi sources right out of the box for remote sources and turn them off by default and then ask if they would like to use them. This would allow the user with a fast line to easily get anything he does not have from ftp and it would not require any more setup time for the end user since the urpmi sources would already be there. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 07:59 am, guran wrote: > Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie > wants to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be: > 1) drivers for graphics > 2) drivers for sound > 3) drivers for java > 4) drivers for realplayer > 5) drivers for flash yes and notice not one reference to emacs in there anywhere. Although as noted in another email most of these can not be distributed freely. Mandrake has to sign distribution contracts with companies for most of these or at least I did to distribute a few things like this. they want to know total distribution over what time period and such even if it is free to distribute and so most of these things can not go onto the free download edition. as noted also this is true for all linux distros. Some companies even charge for the right to redistribute. These are the reasons why you have to pay to get these drivers and things included. Any dostro breaking these things will get in trouble soon enough. Mandrake already got their hands slapped and that is why they are cautious now. Remember the mandrake logo with the magic penguin. The author who did the mandrake the magician got on them for that. I'm, sure mandrake does not want or need anything else like this. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 08:25 am, Duncan wrote: > I agree! I even fire up mc in konsole under KDE fairly frequently. It > sure beats Konqueror for speed on a dir with lots of files that Konqueror > want to load the icons for! I even redid its menu, adding a couple custom > urpmi and rpm entries. Now, when urpmi refuses to install the big lot of > stuff selected with an --auto-select, I load mc and point it to the rpms > cache, and try them one by one installing everything that WILL install, > then track down the problems with the remaining ones and see whether I can > safely force them or not. It's definitely easier than typing it all into > the command line a package at a time, when there's a couple hundred to > try. (Of course, a REAL sysadmin would create a script to try each one > individually, but automatically. I haven't gotten that far yet. =:^) well this is more or less what i use it for. I definitely use it just as much of not more than konq and it is also handy to edit config server files over ssh. It's handy having a editor built right in. Real well I more or less consider myself a real sysadmin. I do make money at it. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 07:42 am, Jan Ciger wrote: > Hi, > > I was not going to contribute to this flamewar, but why everybody > expects that Linux is used just by Windows converts ? "Windows users > expect this", "Windows users are used to that", blah. Whenever somebody > wants to push his personal agenda, this is the argument - "Windows does > it like this or that !" I am not saying that it is not important but > hey, I am using Linux, because it is more Unix than Windows ! > > Brook, you may think that nobody from Windows converts ever uses Emacs, > that's perhaps true. By the same logic, how many of them will touch Vi > or any of it's clones ? The same for MC - I used Norton Commander and > it's clones (Volkov Commander, Dos Navigator, good old times) in the > past and I use MC as well, but users which started their PC experience > with Windows have no idea what it is and how to use it (FYI, Win95 is 8 > years old already, that is huge amount of time in IT and not everybody > is an old fart as me and you). Nope I never said nobody uses it. It is used mostly by developers which we have quite allot of but the normal every day user will not use it. Period. Yes it is the same for vi and mc. My only point in mentioning them is that they are not 100megs worth of bloat. They maybe reach 5 or 6 megs if they get left out for room my point is that emacs is much larger source of bloat. An amount of space that could be used for other packages to make the desktop users experience more useful. I still role my own cd's because of this. It's very easy to change the rpmsrate so that mc is included when I select console tools. It is also very easy for me to customize my install and not include emacs. For me this is no problem. I leave out emacs, a bunch of games, and anything gnome that is not in main or essential. with this I can include a fair portion of contribs and some custom packages I do and it all comes to 4 1/2 cd's of stuff instead of 9 with all of main and contribs in there and without my custom stuff. you are correct about mc of course but it still is a great tool when your system is having major problems and you need to get in and do some work in rescue mode. I suppose the new contrib package may obsolete this (mklivecd) as then you could have a bootable version of fluxbox or wimea running mandrake on the cd and then do your stuff from there. it would be slower but more pretty to look at. > > On the other hand, packages like Emacs/XEmacs are essential for old-time > Unix users, because that is what they used on Suns and SGI machines they > are migrating from (not everybody switches only from Windows to Linux). > That you do not use it does not mean that nobody uses it. yes possibly but the majority don't use this either. All I'm saying is with all the griping this is definitely not an essential package that needs to go on the first 3 cd's the developers will know hot to get it also they cant be that daft or linux would not be were it is now. > > Personally, I would prefer, that the kernel source was included and some > server packages left out in the main tree or in contribs (the people > going to need them are more likely to find them than a semi-newbie > trying to compile an Nvidia driver), but the line had to be drawn > somewhere. Whining like this will not help :-( > > Jan Nope I was not whining. Somebody else asked were the space was going not me. I've been rolling my own cd's since at least 8.0 or so so I don't really care. It is very easy to rid the distro of fat for me. But somebody else asked were the fat was coming from and I answered him in a frank way. Maybe others don't like to hear it but it is true. I do agree with allot of your points above accept for the server stuff. I use mandrake for servers and it is invaluable for that but hey I just add what I want and make it default also so still no foul for me. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 01:29 am, David Walser wrote: > Brook Humphrey wrote: > >> Ouch. What's taking so much space? > > > > stupid emacs and xemacs and all the assorted packages. No real users use > > these > > Well you can't not have emacs, but I agree we could ditch xemacs. The only > reason for ever having it was syntax highlighting in the nice GUI, and > regular emacs has had syntax highlight support even in the console since > 21.1, so there's no reason to even use a GUI now. > > > out there it is more of a developer odity (as not all developers use this > > thing either). Not only that but truly useful packages such as midnight > > commander (when I select console tools) and gvim are not even installed. > > I'm > > LOL, those are the oddities. I guarantee those have significantly fewer > users. > > > not sure if they are even on the cd's as I havn't even managed to get > > them downloaded yet and am still using my custom cd's from cooker after > > it was frozen for the cd's. These two are only about 5 or 6 megs together > > at the most compared to probably close to 100 megs for emacs including > > all it's assorted packages. > > > > I am not a vim versus emacs person really but I do have a few 150 meg > > text files I open and read at times and vim is the only thing under linux > > that even manages to open the file relatively well. Everything else gets > > dicy at about 80megs. Emacs wont even begin to touch the thing. The only > > other program i have found to open it with is a little windows text > > editor that is not free. I think it was texedit. > > Did you try the MS-DOS Editor? you are very sadly mistaken here. The majority or regular windows converts could care less about about emacs. Much less would they be able to figure out how to use the thing properly. AS for mc every sysadmin I show it to uses it. It is way more useful in the real world than emacs. Especially for system recovery. It is kind of like an all in one tool for when things go bad. I even use it allot under normal conditions to install rpm's. Especially when the system is hosed and there is not other way to install them. Emacs will not do that for me. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Saturday 18 October 2003 10:28 pm, Ron Stodden wrote: > It was added to cooker contribs, not 9.2 contribs. They are two > separate trees. exactly that was my point it was not in cooker till after 9.2 shipped and so is not n 9.2. You would have to grab it and install it on purpose to get it. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Torrent ha ha ha.
On Saturday 18 October 2003 08:53 pm, Leon Brooks wrote: > My PowerPack torrent is till pushing out a steady 8KiB/s on a 512/128Kib > (not lowercase b) ADSL link. It took nearly 3 days to arrive. The > download edition is arriving at 16KiB/s* and departing at 1, has taken > roughly 14 hours to get that far. > > My plan is to leave each torrent up until at least twice as much has > been sent as was fetched. well I dont know a way to monitor total but over the last few days I have at least given twice as much as I have received. seeing as how upload was almost always at least double and most of the time it was three times as much or more. I plan to leave it on for as long as I can over the next week though. This is for the powerpack 3 cd and not the download version. For me I decided not to complain anymore and just let others enjoy but it was truly nice to see a decent download speed when i got back on tonight. I shut it off for sabbath. > > Cheers; Leon > > > * Evidently someone else has just come on line (cue Twilight Zone theme) > since it roared up to 40KiB/s immediately after I typed that. (-: -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Saturday 18 October 2003 07:44 pm, Ron Stodden wrote: > Thanks, but a partial word search with kpackage shows no ´anomy´ installed. > > No /var/spool/sanitizer file or any find file success for *sanitizer* or > *anomy* in /var either. > > Also, no anomy* in my 9.2 contrib downloaded tree (just updated). no problem you would no if you installed it. It has a specific use and it is unlikely you would have installed it by accident or by default. It was added to contribs after 9.2 was finished. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] Torrent ha ha ha.
Ok I need to say this. I always get really cruddy torrent speed and everybody says punch a hole in you firewall which I have not and will not do. Torrent works fine on my end without messing with the firewall. However i always get speeds of like 6k and below for about the first week. Now after a few days I'm getting it at like 50k a second and will have the last 50% downloaded in just about 6 hours. That is compared to about 4 or 5 days to get the first 50%. I have not changed any config options at all. The outgoing I have not caped and it has been consistent around 8k or so for the last week even though i was not really getting anything in at all. Thanks to all of you leaving your torrents turned on. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Another niggle for 9.2 (not t obad though)
On Saturday 18 October 2003 07:03 pm, Spencer wrote: > I've had no problems at all with a Logitech Cordless Optical wheel. > After countless installs, it nails it every time;-) > > Spence thanks mine is not a cordless I should have been more specific it finds the mouse fine the wheel is the only part that did not work this is after about 3 installs on the same machine. It is actually trackman wheel but it always uses the logitech mouseman drivers that are listed just fine. My server which uses a mouseman wheel mouse seems to be fine also. The trackman wheel also worked fine in 9.1. oh well it's not that big a deal just a minor inconvenience. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Saturday 18 October 2003 06:51 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I need some kind of daemon that will watch all > > the time for /root/*.n file creation, but that is beyond my skill > > level. > > Well, you could start by looking at the modification times, and if you > were using the machine at the time, remember what you were doing. If not, > you could look in the logs to see what ran then. well just guessing here but if they say defanged in them the only thing I know that does that is anomy-sanitizer which I just put into contribs. The only reason it would be doing this at all is if you are being sent a whole bunch of virii. In which case it deletes the atachment from the email and saves it. It should be under /var/spool/sanitizer or some such though. For some reason mine does not save it but instead just deletes it. It would be my guess you are getting a ton of virii and your anomy is misconfigured and throwing all the stuff into your /root dir for some reason. But who knows I may be wrong. Thats just a guess. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Saturday 18 October 2003 11:40 am, Oden Eriksson wrote: > lördagen den 18 oktober 2003 18.03 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > lördagen den 18 oktober 2003 15.36 skrev Greg Meyer: > > > > > > It won't be a problem if I *buy* the powerpack, so as far as Mandrake > > > is conserned this is no problem. I only wish I had known about this > > > _before_ downloding it, then I would not have spent my time on it. > > > What about the download edition, is the kde-i18n-sv package in there? > > > > Yes, but then you don't get kernel-source. > > > > Seems we can no longer get a full distribution on 3 CDs? Time to go to 4 > > for download? > > Ouch. What's taking so much space? stupid emacs and xemacs and all the assorted packages. No real users use these out there it is more of a developer odity (as not all developers use this thing either). Not only that but truly useful packages such as midnight commander (when I select console tools) and gvim are not even installed. I'm not sure if they are even on the cd's as I havn't even managed to get them downloaded yet and am still using my custom cd's from cooker after it was frozen for the cd's. These two are only about 5 or 6 megs together at the most compared to probably close to 100 megs for emacs including all it's assorted packages. I am not a vim versus emacs person really but I do have a few 150 meg text files I open and read at times and vim is the only thing under linux that even manages to open the file relatively well. Everything else gets dicy at about 80megs. Emacs wont even begin to touch the thing. The only other program i have found to open it with is a little windows text editor that is not free. I think it was texedit. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] Another niggle for 9.2 (not t obad though)
For 9.2 when installed and using a logitech mouse it finds it fine during install but after reboot it looses the wheel on the wheel mouse. The fix for this is to simply goto mousedrake and redoo it and then it will work. So I'm assuming that the mouse config is just not right when the installer saves it. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Something for the perl freaks
On Friday 17 October 2003 08:27 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > http://www.gregorpurdy.com/gregor/psh/ ug isn't perl bad enough without a shell now look what they will be doing. > > - -- > > |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| > > Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager > Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 > Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za > GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc > 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQE/kApxrJK6UGDSBKcRAkHJAKCtahvwNr+zZET1klzSDpw2tj5VaQCdGuHQ > vytLOmTawkqjezJkPuMTxdo= > =Risg > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 - disaster already? Older server scsi problems
On Thursday 16 October 2003 03:05 pm, David Walser wrote: > > Aha, maybe that's just the problem! KDE caches the menu; I believe 60 > seconds by default. So you have to not look at the menu for 60 seconds, or > log out and in and the menu should appear OK again. well yes and no sometimes things appear slowly and sometimes a logout will fix it but I guess I was wrong in my above statement to be more exact there are times though that the menu just simply messes up and looses a bunch of settings and nothing but running update-menues or using menudrake as root or installing another package that triggers update menues correctly will fix it. Thanks for jogging my memory I have been way to busy the last few months or so. My shop has been very busy with all the windows worms and virii running around. I'm getting really short on sleep now. The only problems i have with mandrake is that i have a few file/print/firewall servers around and lately there has been a group hitting the dsl modem users in town badly. Now the mandrake firewall keeps them out just fine but the dsl modem takes such a huge bashing from packet overload that it locks up the modem and eventually the linux box looses the adsl connection which I have not found anything for yet accept to reboot the linux box and shut of the modem. I have tried restarting the network and all the deamons that are used for the connection sharing but i must be missing one someplace because it will only work after a reboot. this includes adsl, shorewall, network, dhcp, and named. Oh well i wish the script kidies would find something better to do with their time. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Fine ! another good job is done
On Thursday 16 October 2003 02:30 pm, Quel Qun wrote: > On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:30, Brook Humphrey wrote: > > On Thursday 16 October 2003 12:30 pm, Linux from Marseille wrote: > > > I 've installed my 3CD' PowerPack today it's great and fine > > > > > > Another Good Job is done ! > > > > > > > > > PS : some trouble with free.fr and adsl > > > > the adsl problem is all over. Been that way since 9.1. For further > > reference if you are doing connection sharing then during install only > > setup adsl. This will get you a working adsl setup most the time. Then > > when you boot into hte os setup your connection sharing after you verify > > the adsl is working. Make sure your adsl is working first. > > > > Also don't try to swap nic's it will make a mess. I combed through config > > files for hours trying to see were the settings were coming from and even > > after hand editing the files in etc and setting them up correctly it > > would still not connect. I fresh install did the trick but still this is > > a little odd. > > I must say I just installed a RH9 :( machine as a gateway and it was a > big pain too. There was three different ifcfg-eth? for each card. I > think the main problem comes from the profile management. I ended up > deleting completely the /etc/sysconfig/networking directory and only > used the files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. You could not really get me to touch redhat anymore. I wont spend my money on hacked libs that dont compile things correctly. But nice to know it's worse than mandrake at most everything. Ah the peace of mind of running mandrake. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Fine ! another good job is done
On Thursday 16 October 2003 12:30 pm, Linux from Marseille wrote: > I 've installed my 3CD' PowerPack today it's great and fine > > Another Good Job is done ! > > > PS : some trouble with free.fr and adsl the adsl problem is all over. Been that way since 9.1. For further reference if you are doing connection sharing then during install only setup adsl. This will get you a working adsl setup most the time. Then when you boot into hte os setup your connection sharing after you verify the adsl is working. Make sure your adsl is working first. Also don't try to swap nic's it will make a mess. I combed through config files for hours trying to see were the settings were coming from and even after hand editing the files in etc and setting them up correctly it would still not connect. I fresh install did the trick but still this is a little odd. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 - disaster already? Older server scsi problems
On Thursday 16 October 2003 08:37 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Oddly, installing all the 9.2 updates solved all problems > > (although there is no apparent reason why in the explains of the > > RPMs involved). > > There seems there is still an odd "locking" problem when we > launch update-menus from within %post scriptlet of an RPM > (problems arises from the fact update-menus do itself an rpm > call, "rpm -qa"), flepied spent a large amount of time trying to > fix that before 9.2, actually had some success with some > scenarios, thought he caught all of them, but apparently not > really all, the problem being that it's very rare here and > absolutely not reproductible :/. > > If *anyone* can reproduce it, please post here the steps to > reproduce it, I'm sure we can come up with a fix quickly. But > without it, it's a hell to debug. > > A workaround is to launch "update-menus" as root. I'll see what I can do maybe you guys dont use kde. but in at least 3 or 4 fresh installs when ever you install any package with a menu for kde this happens. It does fine if you get them all during install but if you install any kde apps after the os is installed this happens as well as all the icons missing off kicker. It is rather annoying. On a side not my trusty dec prioris 6000/4 can no longer install mandrake due to the fact that the installer bombs out on the scsi card. I have tried multiple times now. I have even tried with different scsi drives just to make shure it was not the drives. this also happens on my compaq 650 I think it is with a scsi controler and also a dec prioris mx 6200 the thing they all have in common is that they are all Multi procesor pentium pro prioris 6000/4 (4 cpus) prioris mx (2 cpus) compaq (2 cpus) and scsi but the prioris servers use adaptec ultra wide scsi and the compaq uses symbios I think. The install in all cases bombs out trying to format the drives. On a side note I have had mandrake 9.0 on the prioris 6000 and the compaq for a year or so with no issues. Me think I smell a nasty kernel driver issue. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 - disaster already?
On Thursday 16 October 2003 06:51 am, Serge Plüss wrote: > Fresh 9.2 install on a fresh harddrive. Everything went smooth and the > machine rebooted and worked fine. > Started Mandrake update and it downloaded/installed a couple of files > successfully. > After reboot almost the whole menu tree is empty and all application > launcher items on the Kicker panel dissapeared. > Ran update-menus and that brought back most (if not all) menu entries, but > it didn't bring back any of the kicker application shortcuts. > Had to start adding them manually again. Now I am almost afraid after > reading some similar comments to install any new software or updates. > > Serge same here but hey look at it this way we may get kde 3.1.4 as an update to fix this. Probably not though. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Feels like a rant.
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 07:32 am, Lenny Cartier wrote: > Hello, > > I've got you mail about dovecot & anomy-sanitizer. Upload is coming. > > Thanks > > lenny thanks lenny. Sorry did not know you were on vacation. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Feels like a rant.
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:28 am, Luca Berra wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 09:03:28AM -0700, Brook Humphrey wrote: > >I would not mind doing > >dovecot > > I am mildly interested in dovecot as well, > If Giuseppe is not interested anymore i could proxy this to contrib for > you, i have a modified spec as well which i did not upload due to lack > of time for testing. Would you be interested in looking at it? > ldap and pgsql plugins are especially UNTESTED. > http://www.comedia.it/~bluca/mail/ > > regards, > L. sure I could look at it. I will admit that he did a good job with it though. It already includes postgress and ldap support. The only thing wrong with it was that it was shipped wanting to start up with imaps and pop3s but without the ssl pem's generated. Of course this caused the init.d script to fail and caused the dovecot process to die. I fixed that but have not added much else to it yet. For now it appears to work very well with tls and plain authentication. I have not yet tested ldap or postgress either. anybody interested in the dovecot rpm's I have they are right here I have also placed anomy and maildrop in there. Soon I'll get the how to done for setting them all up to work together and using it to deliver mail for a local machine with getmail. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Feels like a rant.
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 08:51 am, Lenny Cartier wrote: > > Anyway it's upon the uploader to change the changelog so you can found > him by looking at the changelog and packager tag. > > lenny also since it was mentioned what about an account on klama? I know it may not happen but hey at least I asked. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Feels like a rant.
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 08:51 am, Lenny Cartier wrote: > The policy is to always give credits to the contributors. > > IE if I upload a contributor package and modify some - I think - > important things in it I put a : > - from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > - his changelog > > If nothing is needed I upload it like it is. > > Anyway it's upon the uploader to change the changelog so you can found > him by looking at the changelog and packager tag. > > lenny well I honestly believe that what has occurred is that they are using a local .spec file which they modify and they dont check the current one in contribs to see if anybody has made changes to it. I dont think it was intentional and like i said I dont always have the time to work on them but i sure do fix things when they are broken especially with the rpm's I use regularly. If it turns out they are broken a little more than I would like maybe I should approach the current maintainers and ask to be the maintainer. I can currently think if a handfull of rpm's I would not mind maintaining. Mostly server stuff especially the ones that I placed in contribs in the first place a few years back. For me this would currently be pure-ftpd anomy (if it makes it into contribs) :) bibletime and sword (if buchan so chooses) I would not mind doing dovecot I have a few other things I work on also but for now it's mostly this small little groups of programs I'm trying not to get to much since I never know how busy I'm going to be at work. I would like to maintain a few packages well instead of a bunch of them not very well. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Feels like a rant.
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 07:18 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > I don't think I have had anything I have uploaded to incoming ever see > the changelog list. > > Regards, > Buchan one more thing. I was building and maintaining bibletime for years before you put it into contribs I would still like to it and sword as there are big updates coming soon. There is going to be a download manager added to bibletime to allow for downloading the texts right from crosswire.org. It is already in cvs but not quite finished yet. > > - -- > > |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| > > Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager > Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 > Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za > GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc > 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQE/jAXGrJK6UGDSBKcRAtKFAJ9F3G23lH9Ditwl/tkYtK/ROlj1fwCeN7OS > XJJLs6pOSls1oJP8ViBTiho= > =/mD3 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Feels like a rant.
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 07:24 am, Oden Eriksson wrote: > tisdagen den 14 oktober 2003 16.06 skrev Brook Humphrey: > > If this is the case and I am no longer considered to be helpfull around > > here this is a sad thing. I would rather not pack up and go to some other > > Brook, I think you should take it easy as I believe everyone except > gwenole(?) is on vacation. I appreciate your work and I don't think I'm > alone. > > I'm still awaiting responce about my IDN stuff. > > One thing for you to do is to make a spec file (unified) diff and mail > other added/changed files directly to the package maintainer as the upload > ftp seems like a black hole. hm possibly but for some reason my stuff in incoming always made it in. Maybe I'm just not thinking right this morning to much going on for me right now. > > Another way is to make your package available on a webserver somewhere and > just link to it when announcing. Yes I'm sticking everything on my ibiblio account now. At least it can be gotten from someplace. by the way oden you once mentioned a client for subversion. It was a while ago I said I would look at but never had the time. DO you still need it packaged. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Feels like a rant.
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 07:18 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > Uploading to incoming doesn't guarantee anyone is going to look at it, > since only Mandrakesoft employees can look there, and AFAIK only Lenny > does. I know I've been at it for a while now I did email lenny. A few days ago. I snipped out the rest above maybe I was not clear they now have new maintainers but I did the original ones that made it into mandrake about 2 years ago and ahve contributed patches and updates along the way on top of what the "maintainers" have done. Thats my point no mention of it anywere. > > Why? > > I think you are taking the wrong approach. Rather: > > 1)Bug lenny for an account on klama (so you can upload directly to > contrib yourself) No this may be a solution i had not thought about. How does this work? Just upload the srpms and let klama build them? > 2)In the meantime, make your spec files available, for packages that are > already in contrib, mail the maintainer (assuming the maintainer has > upload rights to contrib). > 3)Don't rely on something in /incoming ever being uploaded. > > I don't think I have had anything I have uploaded to incoming ever see > the changelog list. > > Regards, > Buchan well for now I have an account at ibiblio and I'm stuffing things there for others. When and if it makes it into mandrake thats good and fine but at least others will be able to get them. One more thing I'm working on some nice docs for working with some of the packages I'm dealing with i was thinking about giving them to the club for use there. Yes? No? Maybe? does this sound good? > > - -- > > |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| > > Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager > Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 > Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za > GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc > 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQE/jAXGrJK6UGDSBKcRAtKFAJ9F3G23lH9Ditwl/tkYtK/ROlj1fwCeN7OS > XJJLs6pOSls1oJP8ViBTiho= > =/mD3 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] Feels like a rant.
You know I dont really care about this to much but something is disturbing. I have been on cooker since right after mandrake 5.3 linger than maybe even some mandrake employees. I have not had as much time over the last year or so to contribute packages but I have in the past to which I find others take over and somehow my name gets removed from the changelog. Thats ok also as sometimes my business takes up allot of time and things get busy for me. But recently I took the time to upload some packages to incomming. I fixed some that were broken and added a new one. Now I know for a fact that I did this before I told oden about the break in maildrop which I sent him an updated spec for. My packages have still not been added to contribs but maildrop has. If this is the case and I am no longer considered to be helpfull around here this is a sad thing. I would rather not pack up and go to some other distro but I do help around here when I have the time and have been for years. Whats changed here? The packages I have helped with are these: courier-imap: I did the first set which was put onto rpm-help this included all the other little bits like maildrop and others that are part of the courier suite. pure-ftpd: I submitted the first set of packages for this to contribs and have since done a few updates to the package but my changes are completely missing from the changelog. Like anonymous and anon-upload as well as adding user and group info so it would work. These are the main ones. but I have contributed to many of the others. I'm kind of busy sometimes and I dont have as much time for this as some of the new comers like Buchan and Oden but I have been helping. If my stuff is not wanted thats fine I'll build it for myself and do my own repository alla texstar. OK I'm done. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] Mirrors not right?
I just checked uninet and for some reason it is not acting properly it deleted allot of srpms and when it goes to fetch the list of files to update i get lost link to server bad file descriptor. This is with fmirror. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Odem Maildrop has problems
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 02:47 am, Oden Eriksson wrote: > tisdagen den 14 oktober 2003 03.11 skrev Brook Humphrey: > > [...] > > > > Fixed, thanks. > > > > No problem. I like to help. > > I hope you know user .mail* files has to be 600, otherwise it won't work. yes I am aware of it. I found out when it complained about the perms for my mailfilter. I have it working quite well getmail picks up all my mail and hands it off to maildrop which dumps the mail right into my maildir. I then have dovecot setup in secure mode which i can use to read the mail with imap or pop. I updates the dovecot rpm to include the ssl pem's it was missing. I have upload it to incoming but it has not got to contribs yet. I also added anomy which has not arrived in contribs yet either. With all this I have maildrop filtering through spamassassin and anomy. Killing dups and filtering the results to inbox, spam and virus. I then use kmail to grab the stuff right from the inbox instead of using the mail server. I have dovecot setup just so i can check and see what is in the spam and virus folder or to check on things while I'm away. I let kmail do all the filtering other than the stuff listed above but I could setup maildrop to do all the filtering. If I did that though I would be forced to access everything through imap or pop which I dont really want to do. MUch liter on resources just to let kmail grab right from the maildir. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Odem Maildrop has problems
On Monday 13 October 2003 04:33 pm, Oden Eriksson wrote: > tisdagen den 14 oktober 2003 00.14 skrev Brook Humphrey: > > On Monday 13 October 2003 02:40 am, Oden Eriksson wrote: > > > måndagen den 13 oktober 2003 06.25 skrev Brook Humphrey: > > > > I have been using maildrop and some of the permissions are off so > > > > that maildrop cannot access some of it's files and others have the > > > > perms set to high. > > > > > > > > I can repackage this and get them setup up for you since I have it > > > > working here anyway. > > > > > > Mail me the spec file and I fix it. > > > > here is the updated spec. > > > > > > By the way it was only in two places the /etc/maildrop and the > > /etc/maildrop/maildroprc > > > > I have left the rest of the spec alone. > > Fixed, thanks. No problem. I like to help. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Odem Maildrop has problems
On Monday 13 October 2003 02:40 am, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> måndagen den 13 oktober 2003 06.25 skrev Brook Humphrey:
> > I have been using maildrop and some of the permissions are off so that
> > maildrop cannot access some of it's files and others have the perms set
> > to high.
> >
> > I can repackage this and get them setup up for you since I have it
> > working here anyway.
>
> Mail me the spec file and I fix it.
here is the updated spec.
By the way it was only in two places the /etc/maildrop and the
/etc/maildrop/maildroprc
I have left the rest of the spec alone.
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Brook Humphrey
Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107
http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Holiness unto the Lord
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%define namemaildrop
%define version 1.6.1
%define release 2mdk
Summary:Maildrop mail filter/mail delivery agent
Name: %{name}
Version:%{version}
Release:%{release}
License:GPL
Group: System/Servers
Source0:%{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
# S1, S2 & P0 originates from:
# http://www.firstpr.com.au/web-mail/Maildrop-mods-filtering/
Source1:subjadd.c.bz2
Source2:my.mailfilter.txt.bz2
Source3:README.DELTAG.html.bz2
Patch0: maildrop-1.5.3-DELTAG.patch.bz2
URL:http://www.flounder.net/~mrsam/maildrop/
BuildRequires: gdbm-devel
BuildRequires: openldap-devel
BuildRequires: MySQL-devel
BuildRequires: openssl-devel
BuildRequires: libsasl-devel
BuildRequires: pam-devel
#Requires: libgdbm2
BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-buildroot
%description
Maildrop is a combination mail filter/mail delivery agent.
Maildrop reads the message to be delivered to your mailbox,
optionally reads instructions from a file how filter incoming
mail, then based on these instructions may deliver mail to an
alternate mailbox, or forward it, instead of dropping the
message into your mailbox.
Maildrop uses a structured, real, meta-programming language in
order to define filtering instructions. Its basic features are
fast and efficient. At sites which carry a light load, the
more advanced, CPU-demanding, features can be used to build
very sophisticated mail filters. Maildrop deployments have
been reported at sites that support as many as 30,000
mailboxes.
Maildrop mailing list:
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-maildrop
This version is compiled with support for GDBM database files,
maildir enhancements (folders+quotas), and userdb.
%packagemysql
Summary:Maildrop mail filter/mail delivery agent with MySQL support
Group: System/Servers
Requires: %{name} = %{version}
#Requires: libgdbm2
#Requires: libmysql12
%descriptionmysql
Maildrop mail filter/mail delivery agent with MySQL support
%packageopenldap
Summary:Maildrop mail filter/mail delivery agent with OpenLDAP support
Group: System/Servers
Requires: %{name} = %{version}
#Requires: libgdbm2
#Requires: libldap2
#Requires: libopenssl0.9.7
#Requires: libsasl2
%descriptionopenldap
Maildrop mail filter/mail delivery agent with OpenLDAP support
%packagedevel
Summary:Development tools for handling E-mail messages
Group: Development/C
%descriptiondevel
The maildrop-devel package contains the libraries and header files
that can be useful in developing software that works with or processes
E-mail messages.
Install the maildrop-devel package if you want to develop applications
which use or process E-mail messages.
%prep
%setup -q
%patch0 -p1 -b .DELTAG
bzcat %{SOURCE1} > subjadd.c
bzcat %{SOURCE2} > my.mailfilter.txt
bzcat %{SOURCE3} > README.DELTAG.html
mv 0README.txt README.DELTAG
%build
STD_CONFIGURE="--with-devel --with-etcdir=%{_sysconfdir}/maildrop --enable-userdb \
--with-db=gdbm --enable-maildirquota --with-trashquota \
--enable-restrict-trusted=0 --enable-maildrop-uid=root --enable-maildrop-gid=mail \
--enable-sendmail=%{_sbindir}/sendmail --enable-tempdir=.tmp
--enable-smallmsg=8192 \
--enable-global-timeout=300 --enable-keep-fromline=1 --enable-syslog=1
--with-dirsync"
# configure and make the standard maildrop
%configure2_5x $STD_CONFIGURE \
--enable-trusted-users="root mail daemon postfix postmaster uucp qmaild sendmail
mmdf vpopmail"
echo "#define MAILBOT \"%{_bindir}/mailbot\"" > maildrop/mailbot.h
echo "#define DEFAULT_DEF \"./Maildir\&
Re: [Cooker] Odem Maildrop has problems
On Monday 13 October 2003 02:40 am, Oden Eriksson wrote: > måndagen den 13 oktober 2003 06.25 skrev Brook Humphrey: > > I have been using maildrop and some of the permissions are off so that > > maildrop cannot access some of it's files and others have the perms set > > to high. > > > > I can repackage this and get them setup up for you since I have it > > working here anyway. > > Mail me the spec file and I fix it. ok will do it will be latter today. I have fixed it locally but not done up the spec yet. Oh and sorry for the mispell I was getting tired last night. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] Odem Maildrop has problems
I have been using maildrop and some of the permissions are off so that maildrop cannot access some of it's files and others have the perms set to high. I can repackage this and get them setup up for you since I have it working here anyway. Working really well with getmail + maildrop + spamassassin + anomy mail sanitizer I submitted anomy to contribs today for those interested in it. Then I have dovecot for pop3 and imap (maildir access) and postfix set to deliver to maildir. Quite frankly though postfix never gets used since getmail hands off local delivery directly to maildrop. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mirror dope (ben reser we need the rsync police again)
On Sunday 12 October 2003 05:49 pm, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > Le Dimanche 12 Octobre 2003 22:51, Quel Qun a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > What exactly is the problem with these mirrors? Or is it at the main > > server? How many decades will this problem reappear? > > > > Currently there are two spec-helper and webmin rpm and fmirror downloads > > them again and again, everytime I run it. During the freeze, there was a > > bunch of mandrake rpms causing the same problem. > > This is a problem on main server at mandrake. Not a mirror problem. I > allready reported it. > > > Isn't there any way to solve this problem? That's a lot of wasted > > bandwidth. My connection speed has recently been devided by four and now > > I really feel it. > > > > The main problem is that I never really know if I am really in sync. > > Please no advice about rsync or timefuzz. > > Learn how to use rsync: > rsync -aqH --bwlimit=SPEED_kB --no-whole-file server::share/ /my_mirror/ > look --exclude option too. > > I really don't think fmirror is better than rsync, because is able to check > more things about files which need to be sync. Moreover, if a file need to > be resync, rsync will download only difference by looking md5sums. Look I wont debate this with you as I dont have the time but ben has posted about this all before. Lets just say rsync is overly positive about what it does and the benefits are not there as stated. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Mirror dope
On Sunday 12 October 2003 01:51 pm, Quel Qun wrote: > Hi, > > What exactly is the problem with these mirrors? Or is it at the main > server? How many decades will this problem reappear? > > Currently there are two spec-helper and webmin rpm and fmirror downloads > them again and again, everytime I run it. During the freeze, there was a > bunch of mandrake rpms causing the same problem. > > Isn't there any way to solve this problem? That's a lot of wasted > bandwidth. My connection speed has recently been devided by four and now > I really feel it. > > The main problem is that I never really know if I am really in sync. > Please no advice about rsync or timefuzz. lol just so you know I tried rsync and it redownloads the same packages so it is really no help here anyway. I prefer fmirror also as I dont like what rsync does. To be more clear I dont trust it to download the right stuff as I have seen it mess up my local mirror before. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] New dovecot (secure and fast imap and pop3 server) rpm
I just uploaded a new dovecot rpm. To contribs we will have to wait till it gets compiled. Dovecot Is a secure imap and pop3 server that supports ldap among other things. If anybody is interested in testing it before it makes it to contribs let me know and I'll stick it up for download. On my end confirmed to work with current cooker stabilized at 9.2 1) added the pem support that was missing. ie now tsl transfers work. 2) tested to work with plain authentication, tsl and maildir's. 3) still needs to be tested with ldap and digest-md5 Any takers on the last one. I can uplaod the rpm someplace if somebody is interested. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: exim; was Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Saturday 27 September 2003 11:02 am, Vincent Danen wrote: > Now you've hit the nail right on the head. =) > > Besides, how many people would want to use exim? I've *never* heard anyone > request using it before, and in fact I only know of one other person who > uses my packages. If something is going to go into contribs, I think > people should be interested in using it first. I'm not going to put it in > contribs if no one wants to use it. well to be fair they are fairly widely used or at least qmail is. As Ihave even contributed courier imap to rpmhelp before it made it to cooker contrib. I and I would imagine others have been helping and using the packages for some time. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Friday 26 September 2003 12:25 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: > [... rest of the cool stuff snipped ...] > > Wow. I know what I'm doing today. =) > > Thanks, Brook. Looks like I've been missing out. With that feature-set, I > am not at all adverse to making pure-ftpd the default and proftpd as > optional, with wu-ftpd gone entirely. > > Thanks! no problem that is only about a 10th of the feature set. It's a very featurefull ftp deamon. and the main focus has been security from the beginning. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] When rsync'ing I seem to be getting these files over and over
On Friday 26 September 2003 03:27 am, John Allen wrote: > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-DocBook-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.r >pm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-Frontend-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch. >rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Borges-doc-0.9.3-3mdk.noarch.rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/bash-completion-20030821-3mdk.noar >ch.rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/drakfirsttime-0.92-3mdk.noarch.rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/drakwizard-2.5-1mdk.noarch.rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-common-9.2-0.9mdk.noa >rch.rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-de-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch. >rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.9 >mdk.noarch.rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-es-9.2-0.9 >mdk.noarch.rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-fr-9.2-0.9 >mdk.noarch.rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch. >rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-es-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch. >rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-fr-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch. >rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-it-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch. >rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_doc-ru-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch. >rpm > Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_theme-0.1.1-1mdk.noarch.r >pm Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/mkcd-3.6.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm I get these same files also. Over and over and over. For about 5 or 6 days now. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thursday 25 September 2003 09:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: > > Personally, if pure-ftpd can't authenticate against LDAP (like proftpd > can), I'm not overly interested. =) proftpd may have some issues > periodically, but you can't beat it for configurability. Here is only a small portion of the features. I did not do the whole thing as it is much longer than this list. - FTP accounts can be distinct from system accounts, stored in an independant database. Multiple accounts can share the same system id. A built-in indexing database allows very fast lookups. It is sucessfully running with over 1.5 million accounts on the same server. System accounts can be copied to virtual FTP accounts, so that users can have different passwords for shell access and FTP access. - LDAP authentication is also fully supported. Plaintext, Crypt, MD5, SMD5, SHA and SSHA crypto hash functions are implemented. Pure-FTPd was successfully tested with OpenLDAP and iPlanet Directory Server. It uses standard posixAccounts classes. - Built-in secure cryptographic hashes (SMD5, SSHA) can be used with any LDAP server, even those that are lacking support for these hashes. - User info can also be centralized in MySQL databases, with or without transactions. All queries are fully customizable, and requests can be built with user names, remote client addresses, local IP addresses and ports. That way, complex hosting rules can be easily implemented, even with multiple virtual servers on the same host, and multiple virtual domains with many users. - Multiple authentication methods can be chained in any order. For instance, SQL accounts, LDAP directories and system accounts can be used at the same time. - Custom authentication methods can easily be added. Pure-FTPd supports external authentication modules, and writing a new backend can be as simple as a few lines of shell script. - Pure-FTPd supports a virtual quota system : accounts can have individual quota (max number of files, max total size) even when they share the same system uid. - Bandwidth throttling is supported, with distinct settings for upload and download. - Every user can be assigned individual quota, ratio and bandwidth. - Every user can be allowed to connect only from a specific range on IP address, or only to its own virtual host. - Every user can be individually restricted to his home directory or not. - Every user can be allowed to connect only during configured time-ranges (e.g. only during business hours). -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thursday 25 September 2003 09:12 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: > I don't mind pure-ftpd being default, although it we want secure I still > maintain that vsftpd is what we want. Can't beat it for security. Of > course, it's a little spartan on the feature side as well. I'll admit here that I'm not very familiar with vsftpd but I can say pure-ftpd is not spartan at all and is constantly being maintained. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thursday 25 September 2003 06:31 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: > > Heck, I'm all for it and agree with all your reasons. But the example is a > touch out... wu-ftpd hasn't been in main since 8.2 (last version it shipped > in main). > > Hey, while we're at it, can we throw sendmail in contribs? =) > > (Serious about killing wu-ftpd altogether, semi-serious about sendmail) I'm with you vincent sendmail is well it's. I wont say it would not be nice but I would not mind seeing it go. Postfix is more than good enough to take it's place for those that choose it as are many other options out there. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Replacing proftpd by pureftpd ?
On Thursday 25 September 2003 02:50, Eric Fernandez wrote: > apparently, a lot of security flaws have been discovered in proftpd, and > some people say there could be a lot other ones (like in wu-ftpd). > What about repacing proftpd by pureftpd in the next Mandrake release, as > the defaukt ftp server ? It is easy to install and has a reputation to > be very secure. > > WDYT ? > Eric I already use them and am the one who got them into mandrake. I do add to the rpm's occasionally (like when the ftp users weren't created properly because proftpd was changed to do this but not pureftpd) but don't maintain them persay but do use them exclusively. Also to note on my lan same verything only difference was pureftpd and proftpd pro would get 600 - 800k of bandwidth (1000k network) and pure would get 900 - 1100k average throughput. You know the only reason pure was maxing out was because my network was maxed out were as pro just chokes. Cheers -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Serial ATA support
On Monday 15 September 2003 10:10, jokerman64 wrote: > > The asus mobo has a promise controller if i'm not mistaken so i'll just > wait for now and get a normal 120 GB HD. > There's always 9.3 The nforce asus boards have a si controller. I have sold them here in my shop. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Serial ATA support
On Monday 15 September 2003 07:17, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: > > > > what about high point they clearly state that they support linux mandrake > > right on their literature. well and redhat and suse. > > acording Alan Cox hpt SATA should be suported by the standard PATA driver > > hpt them selves have a "open source " driver, if the raid code is ommited > it might be merged > in the kernel. > but i never heard of success or failed stories > > svetljo thanks this would a very interesting thing to know. I have not got a controller yet but have been looking at them. The adaptec and high points looked like what I wanted to go with. I have many boards with the promise controller and they are junk. The si ones have been known to have issues with hard drive corruption and other things. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Serial ATA support
On Monday 15 September 2003 02:06, Mark Watts wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Get one with a Silicon Image chipset - those should work with 2.4.22 - > other chips (Intel ICH5) work with 2.6.x to some degree but you really want > to be using libata when thats finished. what about high point they clearly state that they support linux mandrake right on their literature. well and redhat and suse. > > Mark. > > > OK i have a seriious question for you guys. I want a new mobo w/ serial > > ata. Two questions how good is the support on linux *right now* and is > > there any special controller or board which will definitely work w/ mdk > > 9.2. I'm thinking about getting an ASUS A7V8X > -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
