On Friday 24 October 2003 10:52 am, Galileo wrote:
> "kernel-2.4.22.10mdk"
> this is the "old" kernel, new is 18
> So no new drivers.
> It doesn't matter to me really but it if you read on one page that they
> should be there then they should be there.
>
ok I understand now

>
> BH> um yes this does happen but the updates fix this. On the downside they
> also BH> trigger this so you are left having to do ctrl-alt-f1 or so login
> as root and BH> type update-menus -v. The downside is it deletes all the
> links off of kicker BH> also and they dont come back.
>
> Imagine this happening to a newbee. He would be lost totally and would
> say this mandrake thing is a piece of crap.

hm yes and even with the updates I just noticed some items are not showing up 
properly until I update-menus from a terminal but at least they are not all 
disappearing anymore.

>
> BH> well for the redhat versions that give you the nice server stuff that
> mandrake BH> does it will cost you between 1500 - 2500. I find the mandrake
> servers are in BH> higher usage and the powerpack includes more or less the
> same stuff you have BH> to pay much more for if you would run suse or
> redhat.
>
> I know that's probably the reason that I have been using mandrake all
> this time.
> Don't get me wrong I like mandrake really but that is why these kind
> of things get me really mad. Most people don't know that Mandrake is
> much better server distribution that RH. For example under RH iptables
> doesn't know how to autoprobe for ip_conntrack_ftp for example.
> Under ML all is automated. But I repeat this kind of stuff leave a
> very bad impression to people who are not familiar with ML.

Yes I agree. but I still use mandrake because the other options are so well 
bad. And yes if mandrake only looks bad then that is enough to scare them 
off. 

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