Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 Install Fails during Package Install
To answer your questions: 1. No, it seems to fail on a random package. 2. No, my system is not overclocked. 3. Yes, the install works flawlessly with a 2.2 kernel. However, when I boot into 8.2, it is extremely crash prone. It can't seem to stay running for more than a few minutes under X. This is my third attempt at getting this e-mail out. Let me know if there's anything I can give you that will help you get to the bottom of this problem. -- Dave On Wednesday 06 March 2002 02:13, you wrote: Dave Cowern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey all, I posted awhile ago about having trouble installing the betas. Beta 4 is unfortunately no better for me. In addition to the things I tried before (I've copied my original message below for completeness), I've changed my partitions from ReiserFS to ext3 and also ext2, I've used 3 different kinds of CDRs (including ones I've used very successfully in the past to install mdk isos), I've used 3 different CD drives (one DVD drive, one CDR drive, and one plain old CD drive). I've tried it with passing the kernel options I need (ide2= for a IDE controller card). I've tried it with various security settings. The install crashes while installing packages every single time. It doesn't bomb out with an error, it just hangs. I've let this thing sit for 12 or more hours and it doesn't budge. My question this time around is I've seen people posting all kinds of nice logs showing where the install has failed or given them an error. Where do I get those from on my machine? I rebooted using the rescue option and poked around in /tmp and /var/log but all the files there were empty. As always, any suggestions are welcome. I really want to get this working on my machine before 8.2 ships... I don't relish the thought of using 8.1 until 9.0 comes out. Thanks! -- Dave Oh, P.S. -- Warly posted 5 criteria earlier for another install problem earlier this week. In case anyone is tempted to regurgitate them, here are my responses. mmm, a tough one... 1. Does it crash on the same package (for that set the details mode and see or boot with rescue and read the /root/drakx/ddebug.log) 2. Is your machine overclocked ? 3. Do you experienced the same behavior with a 2.2 kernel (boot with the second CD, use alternate 2.2 kernel, or make a bootdisk with alternatives images in /images/alternatives) 4. Can you do a hd install (copying the CD on a partition and using second CD or hd boot images to start the install from it)
Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 Install Fails during Package Install
Dave Cowern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To answer your questions: 1. No, it seems to fail on a random package. 2. No, my system is not overclocked. 3. Yes, the install works flawlessly with a 2.2 kernel. However, when I boot into 8.2, it is extremely crash prone. It can't seem to stay running for more than a few minutes under X. This is my third attempt at getting this e-mail out. Let me know if there's anything I can give you that will help you get to the bottom of this problem. -- Dave Well, it must be a pb linked with one of your hardware, could you try to install a 2.4 kernel afterwards and boot with it. Could you also include a lspcidrake, and maybe guess which hardware could be unstable. Maybe some of you memory get corrupted, haven't you add something that you had not before (memory, scsi, ...) -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 Install Fails during Package Install
The 2.4.18 kernel was the one that was extremely unstable. I can try downgrading to an earlier mdk kernel if you think that might help. I've reverted to 8.1 for the time being. Here is what lspcidrake from 8.1 gives me: unknown : unknown (10b9/1647//) unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5247 usb-ohci: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5237 (USB) usb-ohci: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5237 (USB) unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5229 IDE unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV] emu10k1 : Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) ns558 : Creative Labs|SB Live! (joystick) unknown : unknown (105a/4d69//) tulip : DEC|DECchip 21140 [FasterNet] unknown : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M7101 PMU Card:Voodoo3 (generic): 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.|Voodoo 3 unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Seiko Epson Corp.|Stylus Color 760 / M800C [Printer|Printer|Bidirectional] unknown : KC Technology Inc.|KC82C160S Hub [] unknown : Unknown|Camera [] The first two unknowns are probably my ATA133 controller its the Promise UltraTX2 133 -- it uses the PDC20269 chipset. Since support for this is new in 8.2 and my machine works fine under 8.1, I'm willing to bet that this is the problem. Is there anything else I can give you that might narrow it down? I'll work on getting 8.2 installed again tomorrow morning to hopefully gain a little more information. -- Dave On Thursday 07 March 2002 14:18, you wrote: Dave Cowern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To answer your questions: 1. No, it seems to fail on a random package. 2. No, my system is not overclocked. 3. Yes, the install works flawlessly with a 2.2 kernel. However, when I boot into 8.2, it is extremely crash prone. It can't seem to stay running for more than a few minutes under X. This is my third attempt at getting this e-mail out. Let me know if there's anything I can give you that will help you get to the bottom of this problem. -- Dave Well, it must be a pb linked with one of your hardware, could you try to install a 2.4 kernel afterwards and boot with it. Could you also include a lspcidrake, and maybe guess which hardware could be unstable. Maybe some of you memory get corrupted, haven't you add something that you had not before (memory, scsi, ...)
[Cooker] Beta 4 Install Fails during Package Install
Hey all, I posted awhile ago about having trouble installing the betas. Beta 4 is unfortunately no better for me. In addition to the things I tried before (I've copied my original message below for completeness), I've changed my partitions from ReiserFS to ext3 and also ext2, I've used 3 different kinds of CDRs (including ones I've used very successfully in the past to install mdk isos), I've used 3 different CD drives (one DVD drive, one CDR drive, and one plain old CD drive). I've tried it with passing the kernel options I need (ide2= for a IDE controller card). I've tried it with various security settings. The install crashes while installing packages every single time. It doesn't bomb out with an error, it just hangs. I've let this thing sit for 12 or more hours and it doesn't budge. My question this time around is I've seen people posting all kinds of nice logs showing where the install has failed or given them an error. Where do I get those from on my machine? I rebooted using the rescue option and poked around in /tmp and /var/log but all the files there were empty. As always, any suggestions are welcome. I really want to get this working on my machine before 8.2 ships... I don't relish the thought of using 8.1 until 9.0 comes out. Thanks! -- Dave Oh, P.S. -- Warly posted 5 criteria earlier for another install problem earlier this week. In case anyone is tempted to regurgitate them, here are my responses. 1. burn a new CD done. many times. 2. try new CDR brand done. twice 3. change your CD drive done. twice 4. change your burner had friends burn the CDs for me. 5. do not test try to stop me ;-) -Old Message--- Hey all, I've been having a lot of problems installing the betas. Since beta 1, I'd get past the package selection to the actual installing of packages. It'd get through maybe 10 - 20 packages before locking up completely. Switching screens to see whats going on, I find that its trying to fetch an RPM from the CD when it fails. At first I figured that it might just be bad media so I tried different brands of CDRs, same deal. Then, I thought it might be something with the CD burning program so I tried xroast (I was using xroaster so I tried gcombust). Same deal. Then I realized they were basically just both front ends using the same CD burning utility. My working MDK8.1 CDs were burnt using Nero (under windows) so I tried doing that on the same media as the MDK8.1 CDs. Same deal. I then thought it could be something with my CD or DVD drive but the install fails the same way on both. I have a TDK121032A CDR and generic 10x DVD drive thats identified as a LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163. A install of MDK8.1 succedes 100% of the time on both. The weird thing is that on a whim I decided to try installing beta 3 under VMWare. The install ran like a champ... all the way to completion. The last thing I can think of might be that it might be a problem with ReiserFS which is what I'm using for all my partitions. I would try deleting my / and /usr partitions and reinstalling on ext3 to see if that worked but I don't have any more time to fiddle with it this weekend. Has anyone ran across any similar problems? I didn't see any problems related to this in the bugzilla database and I wanted to try to narrow it down a little bit before I posted a formal report there. Thanks! -- Dave -End Old Message---
Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 Install Fails during Package Install
Dave Cowern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey all, I posted awhile ago about having trouble installing the betas. Beta 4 is unfortunately no better for me. In addition to the things I tried before (I've copied my original message below for completeness), I've changed my partitions from ReiserFS to ext3 and also ext2, I've used 3 different kinds of CDRs (including ones I've used very successfully in the past to install mdk isos), I've used 3 different CD drives (one DVD drive, one CDR drive, and one plain old CD drive). I've tried it with passing the kernel options I need (ide2= for a IDE controller card). I've tried it with various security settings. The install crashes while installing packages every single time. It doesn't bomb out with an error, it just hangs. I've let this thing sit for 12 or more hours and it doesn't budge. My question this time around is I've seen people posting all kinds of nice logs showing where the install has failed or given them an error. Where do I get those from on my machine? I rebooted using the rescue option and poked around in /tmp and /var/log but all the files there were empty. As always, any suggestions are welcome. I really want to get this working on my machine before 8.2 ships... I don't relish the thought of using 8.1 until 9.0 comes out. Thanks! -- Dave Oh, P.S. -- Warly posted 5 criteria earlier for another install problem earlier this week. In case anyone is tempted to regurgitate them, here are my responses. mmm, a tough one... 1. Does it crash on the same package (for that set the details mode and see or boot with rescue and read the /root/drakx/ddebug.log) 2. Is your machine overclocked ? 3. Do you experienced the same behavior with a 2.2 kernel (boot with the second CD, use alternate 2.2 kernel, or make a bootdisk with alternatives images in /images/alternatives) 4. Can you do a hd install (copying the CD on a partition and using second CD or hd boot images to start the install from it) -- Warly
