Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-17 Thread root

> Did it help what I wrote?

hd.img worked fine, although it would only install from the install CD's
ISO and not from the extension CD's ISO, so I didn't get all the stuff
installed.

> I responded to your post only because I saw it in a reply to your mail.
> Your mail has not yet gotten here from the list.  But obviously, some have
> gotten it.  But I did not.  Did this make more sense to you?

That makes sense.
JJ




Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-17 Thread root

Ummm...
Why is it, that if you don't specify the ISO name on the first ISO mount
attempt it looks for ReiserFS on all subsequent attempts?  I'm talking
about with hd.img.
JJ




Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-17 Thread guran remberg

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> guran remberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > Thus an iso image is just an image on top of whatever. As certain
> > distributions only make iso images public, meaning I can't use an hd.img
> > installation, as with Mandrake. So I want to install from a hd - iso
>
> That's not true, we provide an ISO image for convenience, but you can use
> some other means of install such as "hd.img" to install directly from the
> ISO image, or "hd.img" to install from a tree on your harddrive.
>
> --
> Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft
> http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

Forgive me, that is my bad english, I meant ' as I can with Mandrake'

regards
guran





Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

guran remberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> Thus an iso image is just an image on top of whatever. As certain
> distributions only make iso images public, meaning I can't use an hd.img
> installation, as with Mandrake. So I want to install from a hd - iso

That's not true, we provide an ISO image for convenience, but you can use
some other means of install such as "hd.img" to install directly from the
ISO image, or "hd.img" to install from a tree on your harddrive.



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Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-17 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Joshua Jackson am Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 03:28:40AM -0500:
> Yes, that's exactly what I was asking, 'cuz I don't have a burner.  I
> have to swing my hard drive to a friends to burn.

Did it help what I wrote?

> Why do you mean, not get here?

I responded to your post only because I saw it in a reply to your mail. 
Your mail has not yet gotten here from the list.  But obviously, some have
gotten it.  But I did not.  Did this make more sense to you?

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Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-17 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> > > Can you install/upgrade Mandrake via an ISO on the hard drive?  Like reboot
> 
> Yes.  I think when you use the hd.img or cdrom.img (can't remember), you can
> specify that you want to install from an ISO image.

Yes, from hd.img that works.



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Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-17 Thread Joshua Jackson

> Yes.  I think when you use the hd.img or cdrom.img (can't remember), you can
> specify that you want to install from an ISO image.
> 
> No, you don't.  All you need is this floppy-disk image and the ISO, that's
> all.  That is, if I understood you correctly.
> 
> How I understood you was, that you have the Mandrake ISO on hard drive and
> want to install it without burning it to a CD.  True?

Yes, that's exactly what I was asking, 'cuz I don't have a burner.  I
have to swing my hard drive to a friends to burn.

> PS: Why did the message from Joshua not get here?  Strange...

Why do you mean, not get here?
JJ




Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach guran remberg am Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 06:54:18PM +:

> Thus an iso image is just an image on top of whatever. As certain
> distributions only make iso images public, meaning I can't use an hd.img
> installation, as with Mandrake. So I want to install from a hd - iso
> image.

That's what you mean.  Well, I don't suppose it is possible to do it that
way.  To install a new distrbution (! Mandrake), you certainly have to boot
your machine, and when you're booting, you'll of course unmount everything. 
Especially your loop devices.
If the thing you're trying to install cannot be installed from a running
Linux, ie. it has to be booted, and when that thing cannot be installed from
a set of files on some hard drive, you're out of luck.  If it can do the
latter, you can mount like instructed, copy everything in some easily
remembered place, and do the install from there.  If the first case is true,
you may as well install from that mentioned mount point.

I hope I could give you some insight.

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Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach guran remberg am Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:09:35PM +:

> Joshua Jackson wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, that's a very good question...
> > Can you install/upgrade Mandrake via an ISO on the hard drive?  Like reboot

Yes.  I think when you use the hd.img or cdrom.img (can't remember), you can
specify that you want to install from an ISO image.

> > and have the ISO initialize during the bootup?  Grant that you would have to
> > already have Linux on the system, but like to reformat and install the

No, you don't.  All you need is this floppy-disk image and the ISO, that's
all.  That is, if I understood you correctly.

How I understood you was, that you have the Mandrake ISO on hard drive and
want to install it without burning it to a CD.  True?

PS: Why did the message from Joshua not get here?  Strange...

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Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-16 Thread guran remberg

Joshua Jackson wrote:
> 
> Yes, that's a very good question...
> Can you install/upgrade Mandrake via an ISO on the hard drive?  Like reboot
> and have the ISO initialize during the bootup?  Grant that you would have to
> already have Linux on the system, but like to reformat and install the
> current RC.
> JJ
> 
At my post office is a IBM harddrive of 30GB, waiting to be picked up. I
could really not see any use for that much, so I started to use my
fantasie.

I have a coyote firewall that runs within 12 MB of RAM. With a coming
256 MB of RAM, I could use a piece of it to run a small Linux. This
Linux could then install, by running as a cdrom-filter, my ISO image
onto a newly formatted partition.

Well, that was my initial thought, but I have understood that I somtimes
do day-dreaming.

regards 
guran




Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-16 Thread guran remberg

pgeorges wrote:
> 
> guran remberg a écrit :
> 
> > I am on my way to an upgrade so I have a question:
> >
> > Is it feasable to mount a hd partition, as a large ISO 9660 image? This
> > could thus be used as cdrom, for me that don't have a cd-burner. I may
> > then easily test any ISO image.
> >
> > If it is possible, where can I find out how?
> 
> Do you mean
> 
> mount -t iso9660 -o loop /.../odyssey-rc.iso /mnt/iso ?

To be frank, I don't know what I mean, because then I should have it so
structured that I could look for the correct commands.

As I see it, Linux looks at data through filters, as from /dev.

Thus an iso image is just an image on top of whatever. As certain
distributions only make iso images public, meaning I can't use an hd.img
installation, as with Mandrake. So I want to install from a hd - iso
image.

I will study the man pages concerning your script line, thanks.

regards
guran




Re: [Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-16 Thread pgeorges

guran remberg a écrit :


> I am on my way to an upgrade so I have a question:
> 
> Is it feasable to mount a hd partition, as a large ISO 9660 image? This
> could thus be used as cdrom, for me that don't have a cd-burner. I may
> then easily test any ISO image.
> 
> If it is possible, where can I find out how?

Do you mean

mount -t iso9660 -o loop /.../odyssey-rc.iso /mnt/iso ?




[Cooker] ISO on hd

2000-10-16 Thread guran remberg

Hi

I am on my way to an upgrade so I have a question:

Is it feasable to mount a hd partition, as a large ISO 9660 image? This
could thus be used as cdrom, for me that don't have a cd-burner. I may
then easily test any ISO image.

If it is possible, where can I find out how?

regards
guran