Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-02-02 Thread Ben Reser
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:44:56AM -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Mon Jan 27, 2003 at 12:57:09PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
 
 [...]
  The big issue is migrating mail which is in mbox files. That's why my
  first prodcution mail server *still* runs UW. And unfortunately that
  affects all current Maildir server. Would be nice if there were a
  mbox2maildir migration IMAP server ;-).
 
 IIRC, such a tool comes with qmail.  You can probably download my qmail
 rpms and extract that one file and use it to do your conversions.

No need to.  Just use formail and procmail.  First take and reconfigure
procmail to deliver to the maildirs.  Then simply take and do this:

formail -I'From ' -s procmail -d recipient  recipientsmboxfile

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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-02-02 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Ben Reser wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:44:56AM -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
  On Mon Jan 27, 2003 at 12:57:09PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
 
  [...]
   The big issue is migrating mail which is in mbox files. That's why my
   first prodcution mail server *still* runs UW. And unfortunately that
   affects all current Maildir server. Would be nice if there were a
   mbox2maildir migration IMAP server ;-).
 
  IIRC, such a tool comes with qmail.  You can probably download my qmail
  rpms and extract that one file and use it to do your conversions.

 No need to.  Just use formail and procmail.  First take and reconfigure
 procmail to deliver to the maildirs.  Then simply take and do this:

 formail -I'From ' -s procmail -d recipient  recipientsmboxfile


And this is going to retain:
1)Read/answered flags
2)imap folders
?

To be feasible, I need the users not to notice anything has changed (which
is how our fileserver migration went, and why it was successful).

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-02-02 Thread Ben Reser
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 11:18:19PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
 And this is going to retain:
 1)Read/answered flags

If they're stored in the message headers, absolutely.  

 2)imap folders
 ?

Humm this really depends upon the specific setup.  But it would be
possible to preserve this.  But if they have folders it would take some
extra work.

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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-01-27 Thread Buchan Milne
Oden Eriksson wrote:
 Hi list.
 
 I've used courier-imap since 0.20 or something but since I found this new(?) 
 imap server a while back it got me curious. Now. I'm a contributer and 
 packager for Mandrake Linux, and I know for a fact we are looking for a 
 uw-imap drop-in replacement. courier-imap has been in contribs for a while 
 now but haven't made it into the maintree, I guess because it's so strange...
 

What's strange about courier? I have one production server running UW,
which convinced me never to use it in production again, so my other
servers run courier.

The big issue is migrating mail which is in mbox files. That's why my
first prodcution mail server *still* runs UW. And unfortunately that
affects all current Maildir server. Would be nice if there were a
mbox2maildir migration IMAP server ;-).

Also, the KDE kolab project uses cyrus ... so do we want 4 IMAP servers
in the distro?

 I have made Mandrake packages out of bincimap and checkpassword-pam that I 
 just was about to insert into the contribs, but then it strucked me..., I 
 forgot all about the SSL part... How does this work? It's not documented as 
 far as I could see. Until I have sorted this out the packages live here: 
 http://d-srv.com/Cooker/
 

What is the license of checkpassword (being a DJB-soft, is it under a
DJB-ware license)?

Buchan


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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-01-27 Thread David Walser
--- Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oden Eriksson wrote:
  Hi list.
  
  I've used courier-imap since 0.20 or something but
 since I found this new(?) 
  imap server a while back it got me curious. Now.
 I'm a contributer and 
  packager for Mandrake Linux, and I know for a fact
 we are looking for a 
  uw-imap drop-in replacement. courier-imap has been
 in contribs for a while 
  now but haven't made it into the maintree, I guess
 because it's so strange...
  
 
 What's strange about courier? I have one production
 server running UW,
 which convinced me never to use it in production
 again, so my other
 servers run courier.

I tried courier-imap and it was flaky, went back to
UW.  Not fancy, but easy to set up, supports SSL, and
just works.

 The big issue is migrating mail which is in mbox
 files. That's why my
 first prodcution mail server *still* runs UW. And
 unfortunately that
 affects all current Maildir server. Would be nice if
 there were a
 mbox2maildir migration IMAP server ;-).

I'm not in love with Maildir anyway.

 Also, the KDE kolab project uses cyrus ... so do we
 want 4 IMAP servers
 in the distro?

No, but certainly having cyrus would be nice.  I've
been waiting (why so long?) for them to add SSL
support, once that's done I'm hoping it'll become the
default IMAP server.

It's got that wonderful SIEVE (server-side filtering)
stuff, and look...people on the MandrakeClub are
clamoring for it.

I'm tired of hearing it won't make it in because of
the license, I think someone has something against it.
 I hope someone comes up with a clear explanation of
what the deal on that is.

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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-01-27 Thread Buchan Milne
David Walser wrote:

 
 I tried courier-imap and it was flaky, went back to
 UW.  Not fancy, but easy to set up, supports SSL, and
 just works.

The only thing you need to do to make courier-imap work for everyone is:

# maildirmake /etc/skel/Maildir

(and of course for other users).

I wonder then why I have to kick our uw-imap server here every 2-3 days
when it stops responding (I have to restart xinetd because imapd or
imapsd keeps crashing).

My courier sites I haven't been to in months, and it just keeps working.

 I'm not in love with Maildir anyway.

You would be if you had users with big mail folders ...

The courier site had some interesting stats on performance of uw vs
courier. It was single-user, and just scaling mentally showed the
problems uw will have on a multi-user site ...

 I'm tired of hearing it won't make it in because of
 the license, I think someone has something against it.
  I hope someone comes up with a clear explanation of
 what the deal on that is.

Can someone answer authoratively on why cyrus keeps being ignored?

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-01-27 Thread Luca Olivetti
David Walser wrote:


No, but certainly having cyrus would be nice.  I've
been waiting (why so long?) for them to add SSL
support, once that's done I'm hoping it'll become the
default IMAP server.


I think it's been more than a year that cyrus imapd has had ssl+tls support.
Let's me check the changelog...they say they added starttls after 1.6.19.
Looking at their ftp, 1.6.20 is dated 08/12/99, so it's been a while...

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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-01-27 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Jan 27, 2003 at 12:57:09PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

[...]
 The big issue is migrating mail which is in mbox files. That's why my
 first prodcution mail server *still* runs UW. And unfortunately that
 affects all current Maildir server. Would be nice if there were a
 mbox2maildir migration IMAP server ;-).

IIRC, such a tool comes with qmail.  You can probably download my qmail
rpms and extract that one file and use it to do your conversions.

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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-01-27 Thread David Walser
--- Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Walser wrote:
 
  No, but certainly having cyrus would be nice. 
 I've
  been waiting (why so long?) for them to add SSL
  support, once that's done I'm hoping it'll become
 the
  default IMAP server.
 
 I think it's been more than a year that cyrus imapd
 has had ssl+tls support.
 Let's me check the changelog...they say they added
 starttls after 1.6.19.
 Looking at their ftp, 1.6.20 is dated 08/12/99, so
 it's been a while...

Thanks Luca!  I'll have to look again.  I know it
hasn't been that long since I looked, chances are they
still need to update their friggin' website.  Suppose
I should have tracked down the ChangeLog.

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Re: [Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-01-27 Thread Luca Olivetti
David Walser wrote:


Thanks Luca!  I'll have to look again.  I know it
hasn't been that long since I looked, chances are they
still need to update their friggin' website.  Suppose
I should have tracked down the ChangeLog.


BTW, if you want rpms
http://perso.wanadoo.es/olivetti/cyrus/

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[Cooker] latest bincimap

2003-01-26 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi list.

I've used courier-imap since 0.20 or something but since I found this new(?) 
imap server a while back it got me curious. Now. I'm a contributer and 
packager for Mandrake Linux, and I know for a fact we are looking for a 
uw-imap drop-in replacement. courier-imap has been in contribs for a while 
now but haven't made it into the maintree, I guess because it's so strange...

I have made Mandrake packages out of bincimap and checkpassword-pam that I 
just was about to insert into the contribs, but then it strucked me..., I 
forgot all about the SSL part... How does this work? It's not documented as 
far as I could see. Until I have sorted this out the packages live here: 
http://d-srv.com/Cooker/

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