Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 KMail-ab acts wierd [addendum]
Op Saturday 05 October 2002 14:12, schreef Tim Stoop: cut For info: It's about an upgraded system, from ml8.2 to ml9.0. -- Regards, Tim Stoop PGP public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Random quote/fortune: The life which is unexamined is not worth living. -- Plato
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 KMail-ab acts wierd
Lørdag den 5. oktober 2002 14:12 skrev Tim Stoop: Hi people, 9.0 is great, but it has some glitches that aren't really comfortable. I hope we can fix those. KMail Addressbook is acting wierd. For starters, after the update, instead of the field Full name, Email-address and Telephone, it uses the fields Save as, Email-address, Telephone. This looks really wierd, but is easily fixed by the user by selecting the correct fields to be displayed. But the next is a bit more daunting. All the visible fields are minimised in their length. They only show a few charcters each. Except for the last, which is streched for miles (it seems). Rearranging doesn't work, yes, you can change their size and location, but the positions aren't saved. Also, when you move the last colom to the front, all other coloms are strechted as long as the last colom was! You can correct it, but at next start-up, it's all back to default. Is this an error in kab, or did something go wrong while packaging it? If you need any more info, just ask, I'm very willing to help. I have the same problems. And i cannot add e-mailaddresses to the Addressbook nothing happens when I choose Add to Addressbook Bjørn Fahnøe
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 = NV/X troubles!
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tom Brinkman uttered these words of wisdom: I've got the same hardware as the original poster. 1.4 Tbird (oc'd to 1.55), 512MB RAM, NVidia GeForce2 DDR. Never had a problem as was described, I normally don't use the closed source nvidia crap. Tho I have tested them (3123) as recently as a few days ago. Even compiled a 'sacrifice' kernel so that my regular one (2.4.19-16k7, LM 9.0) couldn't be tainted. The only problem I did have was gettin nvidia's B$ uninstalled (drivers were compiled from their src.rpms). The XFree 'nv' driver does support 3d accel as of XF 4.2.1. It appears this is due to some help from VA Linux and SGI. Back to the untainted kernel and the 'nv' driver, Why all the bad words about nvidia? I'm using their drivers for my GeForce3 card and it works great - no problem at all setting it up or using it. I love my q3a and rtcw (3d games) - which both work without a hitch. Is there something better out there? Let me know, eh? Mike -- Michael Holt Banning, CA(o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com
RE: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 = NV/X troubles!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Holt Why all the bad words about nvidia? I'm using their drivers for my GeForce3 card and it works great - no problem at all setting it up or using it. I love my q3a and rtcw (3d games) - which both work without a hitch. Is there something better out there? Let me know, eh? To be fair, nvidia's drivers work fine for me also.. I've got some kind of geforce mx400. I needed Nvidia's drivers since I couldn't figure out how to get the card to properly use the dvi port with the stock open source drivers. I'm guessing that the main contempt against nvidia's drivers is they are not open source, and if you have a problem with them your more or less stuck until they release a new version that, hopefully, fixes the problem. I'm also guessing that the reason they are not open source is to try to keep various design methodologies secret from competition who might use that information to improve their own products and cost Nvidia money.. I plan on building a simple linux machine around an nforce motherboard soon. We shall see how that batch of drivers works as well I guess. -Robert
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 = NV/X troubles!
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Michael Holt wrote: On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tom Brinkman uttered these words of wisdom: Why all the bad words about nvidia? Probably because some of us who run cooker on NVidia boxen who need working OpenGL are tired of recompiling kernel modules every time we upgrade our kernel. And it's not just NVidia, it's also now Ati, and also the winmodem drivers. I'm using their drivers for my GeForce3 card and it works great - no problem at all setting it up or using it. I love my q3a and rtcw (3d games) - which both work without a hitch. Is there something better out there? Let me know, eh? Agreed, but see how fun it is to keep up with the cooker kernel for 6 months and let me know ... I still need to get ariound to writing a script I can run from cron for rebuilding all the kernel modules I need (NVidia, Lucent Winmodem) every time kernel-source has been updated ... Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 = NV/X troubles!
Op Saturday 05 October 2002 22:09, schreef Michael Holt: Why all the bad words about nvidia? I'm using their drivers for my GeForce3 card and it works great - no problem at all setting it up or using it. I love my q3a and rtcw (3d games) - which both work without a hitch. Is there something better out there? Let me know, eh? Hm, I never said anything bad about their drivers (I'm the OP), I just noted that an update from 8.2 with those drivers to 9.0 without those drivers (download-edition) failed because of them. After installing the nvidia-drivers, all went well. But I know how to install them. Most desktop-people who just want a working system, even after an upgrade, don't know... -- Regards, Tim Stoop PGP public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Random quote/fortune: [A computer is] like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy. -- Joseph Campbell
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 = NV/X troubles!
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tim Stoop wrote: Hi people, I upgraded my own desktop, a Athlon 1.4GHz, 512MB RAM, NVidia GeForce2 DDR. In 8.2, I had the NVidia GLX-package and NVidia kernel installed. After upgrade, I had a hell of a time getting it all to work. Since the nvidia-driver for X isn't shipped with Mandrake, it thought it would use the nv-driver. It didn't. But when I changed XFConfig-4 to use the nv driver, X just exited with a signal 11. Pretty confusing. So, after a little playing around, I decided to reboot into that other OS and download the NVIDIA-GLX en NVIDIA-kernel packages from MandrakeClub (never been happier about being a member!) and after install and changing some of the values I changed to get it to work and running XFdrake, it finally worked again. A few things that possibly can clarify the issue a) The NVidia drivers are proprietary and as such can't be shipped with Mandrake (at least with the download edition) b) the official nv driver at present does not work with the Geforce2Go c) there is a vesion of the nv driver in the Xfree86 CVS that works with your card, but I think without 3D acceleration (for more information, consult the archive of the linux-dell-laptop mailing list on Yahoo groups) d) At the time of rc3 I've made some NVidia rpm's (trivially rebuilds of the sources on that system) that TeXstar has uploaded on his site; in a while the NVidia official packages for 9.0 should be available from their website, but if needed I or someone else could make available their packages e) possibly we need to setup a contrib site for newbies: as soon as Mandrake ships with a new release, non-free drivers with detailed instruction on how to use them (for instance with nvidia you have to choose runlevel 3 etc.) must appear there. Biagio
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 = NV/X troubles!
On Fri Oct 04 22:27 +0100, Biagio Lucini wrote: b) the official nv driver at present does not work with the Geforce2Go c) there is a vesion of the nv driver in the Xfree86 CVS that works with your card, but I think without 3D acceleration (for more information, consult the archive of the linux-dell-laptop mailing list on Yahoo groups) AFAIK, the nv driver doesn't support 3D on any card. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. GPG Key Fingerprint: 354C 7A02 77C5 9EE7 8538 4E8D DCD9 B4B0 DC35 67CD Currently playing: Stone Temple Pilots - Long Way Home Linux 2.4.19-16mdk 5:40pm up 1 day, 16:04, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.13
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - 9.0 = NV/X troubles!
On Fri Oct 04 22:27 +0100, Biagio Lucini wrote: b) the official nv driver at present does not work with the Geforce2Go c) Orignal post didn't report a Geforce2Go... there is a vesion of the nv driver in the Xfree86 CVS that works with your card, but I think without 3D acceleration (for more information, consult the archive of the linux-dell-laptop mailing list on Yahoo groups) ... but did report a desktop NVidia GeForce2 DDR On Friday October 4 2002 04:42 pm, Levi Ramsey wrote: AFAIK, the nv driver doesn't support 3D on any card. I've got the same hardware as the original poster. 1.4 Tbird (oc'd to 1.55), 512MB RAM, NVidia GeForce2 DDR. Never had a problem as was described, I normally don't use the closed source nvidia crap. Tho I have tested them (3123) as recently as a few days ago. Even compiled a 'sacrifice' kernel so that my regular one (2.4.19-16k7, LM 9.0) couldn't be tainted. The only problem I did have was gettin nvidia's B$ uninstalled (drivers were compiled from their src.rpms). The XFree 'nv' driver does support 3d accel as of XF 4.2.1. It appears this is due to some help from VA Linux and SGI. Back to the untainted kernel and the 'nv' driver, tom$ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.2 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat -- 0x23 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None 0x25 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x26 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 kernel-sources kernel cannot read multisessionCD's?
Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is curious; I had to recompile the 8.2 linux-2.4.18-6mdk kernel to install the linux-wlan pcmcia kit and I must have neglected to include something because I can no longer read only some parts of CDs -- I've never seen anything like this before: I can read all of the directories on the Mandrake distribution CDs _except_ the /Mandrake directories; on all three disks, this only gives the error ls: /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake: Invalid argument but I can read all other directories! Is this a multisession thing? The default config for the kernel sets iso9660 as included in the kernel (instead of as a module like the distro binary kernel) -- the only other status message is the line ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A repeated several times in the syslog. What could I be missing? The CDs were fine using the binary kernel. There is no multisession on Mandrake disk. The problem may be the options used to mount the disc. What does isoinfo -i /dev/cdrom -l -R gives ? -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 kernel-sources kernel cannot read multisession CD's?
Thanks for helping out on this --- it's a really mysterious bug; it has to be something to do with the kernel sources config, but I can't find any smoking gun. w == warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: w There is no multisession on Mandrake disk. It was just a guess based on a posting Google found related to these same messages (actually related to _writing_ multisession) w The problem may be the options used to mount the disc. /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount \ dev=/dev/hdc,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 these are the very same options used to mount the disk using the binary kernel, and the kernel-2.4.18-6mdk binary kernel reads the CD with no problems at all. It is most curious that on _all_ three CDs it will read all other files and directories _except_ /Mandrake and its descendants. w What does isoinfo -i /dev/cdrom -l -R gives ? /dev/cdrom was not created by the install running isoinfo on /dev/hdc gives the correct -lR display of all the files. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Innovations Through Open Source Systems: http://www.teledyn.com Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install bugs (text mode)
p == pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: had to use the shell to fdisk and repartion, then reboot and use existing partitions to fix it. p you got p 100 swap 490 / 410 /home p what exactly would you do? if the size leaves less than 600Mb, I scrap the idea of splitting the / and /home -- in the long run, it's far more trouble than it's worth. For one thing, you end up having to move /tmp and /var into /home so email, CUPS and other processing do not explode the volatile directories. Pretty soon, the drive is a jungle of symlinks moving growing things out of / and into /home -- Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Innovations Through Open Source Systems: http://www.teledyn.com Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install bugs (text mode)
Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) partition of a small (1G) disk is into 3 parts by default, which leaves a system partition that is dangerously small. I had to use the shell to fdisk and repartion, then reboot and use existing partitions to fix it. you got 100 swap 490 / 410 /home what exactly would you do? 2) After deselecting packages I get the dialog asking me to select bare minimum, with the third option saying no urpmi ... if you _don't_ take that third option (I took no options at all) the install fails; packages are attempting to open some sort of RPM database that doesn't exist, and the error causes the installer to segfault aborting the package. the installation asks if it's ok to skip it, but it doesn't matter which answer you give, it continues, aborting all subsequent installs. can't reproduce
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 installer hangs on USB2 PCI card
Jan Matis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an MB with kt133 chipset and duron 650 when I have inside PCI USB2 card with NEC (D72010AGM 0216KP060 - that's written on it) chip. Card is named 0220025372 PCI-USBNEC-1 When I try ro tun installation of mdk 8.2 (I have download edition and also Power pac) it shows graphics screen and on first step (language choosing) it hands - Mouse cursor and keyboard doesn't respond. (keyboard and mouse are ps/2) And the same is on text install. I'm pretty sure it is because of this usb card (I've removed it and now it works). can you put it back after install, boot the installed system, and send the output of lspcidrake?
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 installer hangs on USB2 PCI card
On 23 Jun 2002, Pixel wrote: Jan Matis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an MB with kt133 chipset and duron 650 when I have inside PCI USB2 card with NEC (D72010AGM 0216KP060 - that's written on it) chip. Card is named 0220025372 PCI-USBNEC-1 When I try ro tun installation of mdk 8.2 (I have download edition and also Power pac) it shows graphics screen and on first step (language choosing) it hands - Mouse cursor and keyboard doesn't respond. (keyboard and mouse are ps/2) And the same is on text install. I'm pretty sure it is because of this usb card (I've removed it and now it works). can you put it back after install, boot the installed system, and send the output of lspcidrake? [root@damned root]# lspcidrake unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] es1371 : Ensoniq|CT5880 usb-ohci: NEC|USB usb-ohci: NEC|USB ehci-hcd: NEC Corporation|PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 bttv: Brooktree Corporation|Bt878 btaudio : Brooktree Corporation|Bt878 Card:ATI Rage 128: ATI|Rage 128 GL AGP 1x/2x unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Hewlett-Packard|LaserJet 1200 [Printer|Printer|IEEE 1284.4 compatible bidirectional] unknown : Hewlett-Packard| [] [root@damned root]# hope it should help Jan -- I would usually like to think I'm not completely stupid. (c) Mandrake cooker mailing list
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 installer hangs on USB2 PCI card
Jan Matis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I'm pretty sure it is because of this usb card (I've removed it and now it works). [...] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB [...] usb-ohci: NEC|USB usb-ohci: NEC|USB i don't exactly remember why this is happening, but this is quite wrong. Next time, can you try installing with linux noauto (with USB plugged of course) ehci-hcd: NEC Corporation|PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 installer hangs on USB2 PCI card
On 23 Jun 2002, Pixel wrote: Jan Matis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I'm pretty sure it is because of this usb card (I've removed it and now it works). [...] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB [...] usb-ohci: NEC|USB usb-ohci: NEC|USB i don't exactly remember why this is happening, but this is quite wrong. Next time, can you try installing with linux noauto (with USB plugged of course) well this helped ... is it written somewhere? (because if it is then i'm so stupid ... ) maybe there could be on first display some url with hints like this one Jan Matis ehci-hcd: NEC Corporation|PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller -- I would usually like to think I'm not completely stupid. (c) Mandrake cooker mailing list
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 installer hangs on USB2 PCI card
Jan Matis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Next time, can you try installing with linux noauto (with USB plugged of course) well this helped ... is it written somewhere? (because if it is then i'm so stupid ... ) maybe there could be on first display some url with hints like this one it must be displayed when pressing F1 (or F2 ?) at install boot
Re: [Cooker] (8.2) OpenOffice.org crash with new presentation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2)Crash when starting a new presentation (An unrecovereable error has occured ...). Opening exising presentations works fine. Not here, I think you have to delete your .openoffice dir. Danny - -- You're very sure of your facts, he said at last, I couldn't trust the thinking of a man who takes the Universe - - if there is one - for granted. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE85r+1aeiN+EU2vEIRAtefAJ4xFZeOaNn4HwLKQ44609mSOpIrSQCcC2oD r2S6el+MeNetucCTdymwiP4= =m3Dp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 2418-6: rhconfig.h bug with mdksecure (errata/update needed)
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 11:45:38AM +0400, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: Warly, sorry to Cc to you but I do not know who is responsible for errata. vdanen is. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 comments/problems
Le Mercredi 24 Avril 2002 11:56, vous avez écrit : I'm pretty happy with 8.2 on my dell inspiron 8000, but every other machine I've tried has problems. We were planning on installing Mandrake 8.2 on some gateway AMD machines, but the one machine I've tried randomly crashes every 20-30minutes (or total video failure, no sync to the monitor). Do you have a nvidia card ? Try the Option NvAGP 0 in the Xfree configuration file. It is maybe nvidia related problem. Check with your motherboard model and nvidia known's incompatibilities. Installed on many computers/configurations, and even an acer laptop, everything went fine. On a dell 5000 it doesn't recognize the xircom network card. My Xircom was recognized by hardrake, did you launched it ? Stef Both of these machines run 8.1 no problem. On a dell inspiron 8100, it didn't recognize the video card, but if you manually installed drivers from Nvidia, then everything was okay. It doesn't seem quite ready for the masses yet. When I get some time, I'll find out what video card the Gateway machine uses, and exact details of the xircom network card. __ Only a few days left to file! http://taxes.yahoo.ca
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 and serverworks problem..
Hello: i m glad that i got ur reply :) let me describe my problem and testing procedure in details...i think the problem is causing by kernel, since redhat 7.2 is fine... and i run memtest86 to test memories, which are fine.. 1.) OSB4 DMA bug. it will cause system hang if u leave the ide dma enabled, and u try to read a scratched cd which the cdrom can not read well. redhat 7.2 is fine with dma enabled. 2.) xwindow say mtrr can not use and leave messages below in the syslog: mtrr: Serverworks LE detected. Write-combining disabled. redhat 7.2 is fine. 3.) irq conflict in the linux boot message. at bios boot screen i saw vga using irq 10, lan using irq 9. and cat /proc/pci give me the same result. but boot message say device 00:04:00(lan) want irq 10, which already has irq 9. so i try to lock lan to irq 10 at bios. bios boot screen is fine, vga using irq9, lan using irq 10, cat /proc/pci give me the same. but boot message now tell me device 00:04:00 want irq 9, which already has irq 10... :( 4.) unstable with kernel-enterprise. i test my system with ctcs that comes with mandrake 8.2. and using ctcs default, so it will run kernel making,memory testing (with memtest86),and disk testing (with badblocks) simultaneously. the system will freeze about 4 hours. the system didn't hang, just freeze, so no more new process. i can switch virtual consoles. i login 3 virtual consoles before testing, one run ctcs,one run top, and one stay at shell prompt. and when freezing: the ctcs clock is still ticking at console 1. the top process is hang at console 2. looking at time at up-left corner, i can know when the system froze. i can type command at console 3, the shell prompt, but it will hang after i hit enter if need a new process. there is a clue but i don't understand. during testing of ctcs, sometimes there is error below in the syslog: kernel: Warning: dev (04:01) tty-count(5) != #fd'(4) in tty-open the message appear about every 20-30 minutes. and after about 10 messages, the system froze. redhat 7.2 with ctcs comes with MDK 8.2 pass the testing for 12 hours... Regards, tbsky Hello: i install mandrake 8.2 on a HP lc2000 u3 srever with 1GB ram and 2 cpu, it is unstable with enterprise kernel. i found a link which is the same as my problem: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=101770689615279w=2 i also try the kernel in cooker but the same. and when i start X under 8.2, i have no experience with serverworks chipset before. does serverworks support linux? should i prevent it in the future? Yes. ServerWorks chipsets are supported. I have about 20 Dell PE 2xx0 (ServerWorks chipset based) servers, two cpus, mostly 1G RAM. All working fine, distrib kernel from mdk 8.1 and/or from mdk 8.2. One diffence: i use kernel-secure (it's based on kernel-enterprise). IMHO problem is motherboard/memmory not in chipset. All (two) my HP server are shit hardware, mandrake have healthy problems on it. Zdenek Mazanec
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 and serverworks problem..
Hello:
i install 8.1 at hp lc2000 yesterday. and i found that hp lc2000
is mandrake 8.1 certified hardware. there are less than 30 servers
that are certified hardware. so i think it should work well with MDK.
but the OSB4 DMA bug is there,too. when read a scrateched cd, message
below appear endless:
hda: irq timeout: status = 0xd0 {Busy}
hda: ATAPI reset complete
i can not kill the process which access the cd, can not eject the cd,
the only way to get my cdrom back is reboot.
and when start X 4.1.0, syslog tell me your processor didn't support
mtrr write-combining. like the 8.2 behavior.
and with mandrake 8.1 i don't see any irq conflict, the system
seems stable. i run ctcs for 18 hours, and no error message.
Regards,
tbsky
1.) OSB4 DMA bug. it will cause system hang if u leave the ide dma
enabled,
and u try to read a scratched cd which the cdrom can not read well.
redhat 7.2 is fine with dma enabled.
2.) xwindow say mtrr can not use and leave messages below in the syslog:
mtrr: Serverworks LE detected. Write-combining disabled.
redhat 7.2 is fine.
vga using irq 10, lan using irq 9. and cat /proc/pci give me the same
result. but boot message say device 00:04:00(lan) want irq 10, which
already has irq 9.
so i try to lock lan to irq 10 at bios. bios boot screen is fine, vga
using irq9, lan using irq 10, cat /proc/pci give me the same. but
boot message now tell me device 00:04:00 want irq 9, which already
has irq 10... :(
comes with mandrake 8.2. and using ctcs default, so it will run
kernel making,memory testing (with memtest86),and disk testing
(with badblocks) simultaneously. the system will freeze about 4
hours. the system didn't hang, just freeze, so no more new process. i
can switch virtual consoles. i login 3 virtual consoles before
testing, one run ctcs,one run top, and one stay at shell prompt.
and when freezing:
the ctcs clock is still ticking at console 1.
the top process is hang at console 2. looking at time at up-left
corner, i can know when the system froze.
i can type command at console 3, the shell prompt, but it will hang
after i hit enter if need a new process.
there is a clue but i don't understand. during testing of ctcs,
sometimes there is error below in the syslog:
kernel: Warning: dev (04:01) tty-count(5) != #fd'(4) in tty-open
the message appear about every 20-30 minutes. and after about 10
messages, the system froze.
redhat 7.2 with ctcs comes with MDK 8.2 pass the testing for 12
hours...
Regards,
tbsky
Hello:
i install mandrake 8.2 on a HP lc2000 u3 srever with 1GB ram and 2
cpu,
it is unstable with enterprise kernel. i found a link which is
the same as my problem:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=101770689615279w=2
i also try the kernel in cooker but the same.
and when i start X under 8.2,
i have no experience with serverworks chipset before.
does serverworks support linux? should i prevent it in the future?
Yes. ServerWorks chipsets are supported. I have about 20 Dell PE 2xx0
(ServerWorks chipset based) servers, two cpus, mostly 1G RAM. All
working fine, distrib kernel from mdk 8.1 and/or from mdk 8.2.
One diffence: i use kernel-secure (it's based on kernel-enterprise).
IMHO problem is motherboard/memmory not in chipset. All (two) my HP
server are shit hardware, mandrake have healthy problems on it.
Zdenek Mazanec
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
[snip: previous messages that became a total mess, and things that were even more pointless to leave inside] Not every one DOS user remember about 60 DOS comand line commands, so how many Linux/Unix users remember about 600 Linux/Unix command line commands? :) By using them daily. Anyway if there weren't people that used them you couldn't use linux at all. Nobody remembers them all. I have to look up things in manpages every day. But the power of the shell is unmatched. You can do and see things much faster than with any point and click interface if you take the time to learn them. But I don't expect anybody to learn the shell. I respect that people have other hobies. But please respect the shell for what it is to advanced users. Groetjes, Han. -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
Han wrote: [snip: previous messages that became a total mess, and things that were even more pointless to leave inside] Not every one DOS user remember about 60 DOS comand line commands, so how many Linux/Unix users remember about 600 Linux/Unix command line commands? :) By using them daily. Anyway if there weren't people that used them you couldn't use linux at all. Nobody remembers them all. I have to look up things in manpages every day. But the power of the shell is unmatched. You can do and see things much faster than with any point and click interface if you take the time to learn them. But I don't expect anybody to learn the shell. I respect that people have other hobies. But please respect the shell for what it is to advanced users. Groetjes, Han. -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software Thanks Han, I use Mandrake for about 5-6 months evry day, for everything what I used to do in the past in Windows. Mandrake is a nice distro no questions abiut that, but it need some polishing yet. I use it on stand alone home computer, so I do miss a few firewalls with GUI that Windows has a quiet few. The Linux shell power is nat questionable, but average user (included me) would like to point and click than be a typist. As I do remember, few yers ago, a user was able to do voice commands on Mac systems, on some applications. If we can, we should go forward, not stay in place. Irek
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
Hoyt wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2002 02:54 pm, you wrote: Where is the option to do a minimal install? I thought I read that 8.2 would give you the option to do a minimal install. It's not that obvious. When you are at the screen where you do package selection, just unselect everything. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com What is usenet? Proof that people are much easier to take with their clothes on and their mouths shut. Well, how typical newbee can know that? If you can reed on Mandrake web page about minimal installation (65 MB), it clearly, supposed to be an option on the installation screen. Irek Stroinski
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 12:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not that obvious. When you are at the screen where you do package selection, just unselect everything. -- Hoyt Well, how typical newbee can know that? If you can reed on Mandrake web page about minimal installation (65 MB), it clearly, supposed to be an option on the installation screen. Irek Stroinski I disagree. What's a newbie going to do with a minimal install I don't know any newbie's who are fluent with a command line and, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what you get. -- /curtis 'Email': ...Made dangerous through the use of Microsoft products. Mandrake Linux 8.3 (cooker) Kernel Version 2.4.18-6mdk Uptime 5 days 17 hours 31 minutes
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
Curtis H wrote: On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 12:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not that obvious. When you are at the screen where you do package selection, just unselect everything. -- Hoyt Well, how typical newbee can know that? If you can reed on Mandrake web page about minimal installation (65 MB), it clearly, supposed to be an option on the installation screen. Irek Stroinski I disagree. What's a newbie going to do with a minimal install I don't know any newbie's who are fluent with a command line and, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what you get. -- /curtis 'Email': ...Made dangerous through the use of Microsoft products. Mandrake Linux 8.3 (cooker) Kernel Version 2.4.18-6mdk Uptime 5 days 17 hours 31 minutes As an example: just to check up if the hardware is working under Linux. Irek
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 04:05 pm, you wrote: Well, how typical newbee can know that? If you can reed on Mandrake web page about minimal installation (65 MB), it clearly, supposed to be an option on the installation screen. I disagree. What's a newbie going to do with a minimal install I don't know any newbie's who are fluent with a command line and, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what you get. That's not the point. Obscure features are no feature at all. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com What is usenet? Proof that people are much easier to take with their clothes on and their mouths shut.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 22:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an example: just to check up if the hardware is working under Linux. Irek That is without X so most hardware is not even adressed
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 13:35, Hoyt wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2002 04:05 pm, you wrote: Well, how typical newbee can know that? If you can reed on Mandrake web page about minimal installation (65 MB), it clearly, supposed to be an option on the installation screen. I disagree. What's a newbie going to do with a minimal install I don't know any newbie's who are fluent with a command line and, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what you get. That's not the point. Obscure features are no feature at all. -- Hoyt -- /curtis def. 'Email': ...Made dangerous through the use of Microsoft products. Mandrake Linux 8.3 (cooker) Kernel Version 2.4.18-6mdk Uptime 5 days 21 hours 31 minutes 1 new to Mandrake - and not being able to find features 2 a linux newbie who only knows point and click and thinks that linux is equal to DOS when they see a black screen with a prompt. I was assuming #2 :) -- /curtis 'Email': ...Made dangerous through the use of Microsoft products. Mandrake Linux 8.3 (cooker) Kernel Version 2.4.18-6mdk Uptime 5 days 21 hours 31 minutes
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
That's not the point. Obscure features are no feature at all. -- Hoyt snipping the quirkiness of evolution and fixing what I wanted to post.. Well I suppose that differentiates between: 1 new to Mandrake - and not being able to find features 2 a linux newbie who only knows point and click and thinks that linux is equal to DOS when they see a black screen with a prompt. I was assuming #2 :) -- /curtis
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 minimal install
Curtis H wrote: On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 13:35, Hoyt wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2002 04:05 pm, you wrote: Well, how typical newbee can know that? If you can reed on Mandrake web page about minimal installation (65 MB), it clearly, supposed to be an option on the installation screen. I disagree. What's a newbie going to do with a minimal install I don't know any newbie's who are fluent with a command line and, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what you get. That's not the point. Obscure features are no feature at all. -- Hoyt -- /curtis def. 'Email': ...Made dangerous through the use of Microsoft products. Mandrake Linux 8.3 (cooker) Kernel Version 2.4.18-6mdk Uptime 5 days 21 hours 31 minutes 1 new to Mandrake - and not being able to find features 2 a linux newbie who only knows point and click and thinks that linux is equal to DOS when they see a black screen with a prompt. I was assuming #2 :) -- /curtis 'Email': ...Made dangerous through the use of Microsoft products. Mandrake Linux 8.3 (cooker) Kernel Version 2.4.18-6mdk Uptime 5 days 21 hours 31 minutes Not every one DOS user remember about 60 DOS comand line commands, so how many Linux/Unix users remember about 600 Linux/Unix command line commands? :) Irek
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 problems...
On Wednesday 27 March 2002 05:15 pm, Malcolm-Rannirl wrote: KDE is pretty much unusable for me. Within about five minutes, kmail will crash either killing any ability to create a network connection (no ioslaves work) or taking X down entirely. Clicking on a link within an email seems guarenteed to do this instantly, but it seems to happen at other times (possibly on checking mail). I haven't been able to find any reason behind this. Well I've narrowed this down somewhat. Extensive disk access seems to be part of the cause (I've been doing development work that involved copying large amounts of data around my drive), and it's not all kioslaves that die, as outgoing smtp seems to stay up even when http, pop, etc have died. They don't die when running gnome rather than the kde desktop though. It's very reproduceable, but as this is my work box, I haven't had time to isolate it very far. X (4.2.0) also shows a significant number of visual artifacts. (I believe this is due to the drivers for the i810 chipset, as I've had this before and it was only solved by manually upgrading the drivers using a hand built X and kernel). Not managed to fix that one though. :( -- Understanding is a three-edged sword. - Kosh to Talia Winters in Babylon 5:Deathwalker -- This email is monitored by the US government under the auspice of the USA act. For private communication, ask me for my PGP key
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 problems...
Malcolm-Rannirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday 27 March 2002 08:33 pm, Kevin J. Maciunas wrote: I tried to use ext3 as my root partition (diskdrake is quite happy to let you set this up). However the system was unusable on booting as it appears to be unable to mount the root partition (it will load the initrd and get part way into the boot sequence, but if I try booting without the initrd it kernal panics). I have ext3 root fs without any problems at all... I have a manually partitioned drive. I was actually upgrading and just wiped the previous reiserfs root partition to try ext3, the other partitions are still reiserfs. As far as I can tell it kept trying to mount root as if it were a reiserfs partition (changing fstab didn't affect it). I could find nothing in the setup that affected it. the initrd is the thing that decides the filesystem to use. Maybe you're using an older initrd? The decision of which filesystem to use for the root filesystem is decided in mkinitrd.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Install CD wont boot
Mario A Yepes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings I am using an 1.3 Ghz Athlon in an Pcchips M810LR main Board (http://www.pcchips.com.tw/M810LMR.html) with 128M in Ram, I also have a 40GBytes Samsung hardrive and a generic CDROM. The boot fails at firs stage when its detecting the hardware. What problem? What error msg? Please add a max of details. I have trayed to pass a couple of kernel parameters a boot time (ide=nodma, mem=128...) with no luck for the record. mandrake 8.1 Install CD booted just fine. You may also try the second disc which is also bootable but with a different boot method. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://www.frozen-bubble.org/
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Install CD wont boot
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 08:45 am, you wrote: Greetings I am using an 1.3 Ghz Athlon in an Pcchips M810LR main Board (http://www.pcchips.com.tw/M810LMR.html) with 128M in Ram, I also have a 40GBytes Samsung hardrive and a generic CDROM. The boot fails at firs stage when its detecting the hardware. I have trayed to pass a couple of kernel parameters a boot time (ide=nodma, mem=128...) with no luck for the record. mandrake 8.1 Install CD booted just fine. Is there a way I can overcome (and debug) this? Thanks In Advance Please run md5 sum on the CD and see if you got a bad burn. ALWAYS check to make sure the md5 sum of the burned CD matches the one listed on the ftp you got it from. ;) -Tim
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 won't install on a Promise 20268
Nick Murtagh wrote: Hi I tried installing 8.2 on my shiny new Promise Ultra100 TX2 card, which uses the PDC20268 chip. It hangs at the detecting partitions stage. I think this may have been fixed in the -ac series, with patches from Promise themselves. Yep, Promise fixed its own bug. So my question is, how do I go about installing 8.2 on my machine? Should I try making a boot CD with a newer kernel? Presumably I'd have to make a new El Torito image. What are the proper steps for this? Why not use an old install image by booting from CD2? Or is there a way to make a boot floppy with the kernel of my choice and then continue the install from the CDROM? If the worst comes to the worst, I can try upgrading my 8.1 installation, getting the card working there, and then copying stuff to the new disks, but I'd rather make a clean break from what is, at this stage, a well customized installation :) Nick Civileme
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 upgrade: swapping CDs
civileme wrote: Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote: Perhaps I did something wrong, but I was unble to install packages from 3rd CD during upgrade to 8.2. I was asked to insert CD3 again and again until I skipped it. Anybody else experiencing this? Yep, I have an 8x CD on an IBM that does this every time, and sometimes rejects CD2. It is the CD drive and swapping it did the trick. Alternatively it is the burner but I don't have money to buy a new one. I did some swapping but it didnt help. The cd was readable as I added it successfuly using rpmdrake before upgrade. I decided to do a full upgrade because I didnt want to resolve all the gnome upgrade conflicts by hand. After upgrade urpmi rejects cd3 and my old rh5 cd as inconsisent sources. These both have rpms in more than one directory and vere added before upgrade.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 upgrade: swapping CDs
Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote: Perhaps I did something wrong, but I was unble to install packages from 3rd CD during upgrade to 8.2. I was asked to insert CD3 again and again until I skipped it. Anybody else experiencing this? Yep, I have an 8x CD on an IBM that does this every time, and sometimes rejects CD2. It is the CD drive and swapping it did the trick. Alternatively it is the burner but I don't have money to buy a new one. Civileme
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 upgrade: swapping CDs
* Stardate: 2002-03-28 09:26 * Incoming subspace signal from Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Perhaps I did something wrong, but I was unble to install packages from 3rd CD during upgrade to 8.2. I was asked to insert CD3 again and again until I skipped it. Anybody else experiencing this? Yes, I have this problem using urpmi on 8.2. I rejects all CD's. -- Best regards, M@X. * Climate Control Psychedelic Soundscapes - http://go.to/cchq/ * Linux Shell Scripts RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/ 11:05am up 7 min, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 0.91, 0.44
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 upgrade: swapping CDs
M@X == Meneer Stok, de Androïde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps I did something wrong, but I was unble to install packages from 3rd CD during upgrade to 8.2. I was asked to insert CD3 again and again until I skipped it. Anybody else experiencing this? M@X Yes, I have this problem using urpmi on 8.2. I rejects all CD's. I had it with both cd's 2 and 3 in the install, but urpmi seems to be able to read them, now that I've added them by hand. Incidentally, I removed all the original sources, because the upgrade left the old ones (from 8.1, or maybe the beta 8.2) with the same names. I think it would be better design if Mandrake used the version number as part of the source name. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install freeze during disk formatting.
On Tuesday 26 March 2002 10:47, Bernard Varaine wrote: The subject say it all.. on a P2 233 with 64mb ram. disk detected OK, partition disk and write partition table OK. format the swap partition and then freeze when formatting the 3gb / reseir FS any idea.? I installed 8.2 on a dell 2 days ago withou any problem but on this old n brand PC got stuck regards Bernard Check if the diskpartiton is not fucked up.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - cannot change Sawfish appearance
Nobody ever got back to me on this, but incidentally, it was fixed when I installed the libxeno.so (Xenophilia) that was missing from the CDs. I think about that time, Evolution started doing stuff like you see below. If it ain't one thing, it's another. :-) On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 14:05, Kevin Krumwiede wrote: Just installed 8.2, running Gnome with Sawfish theme. I cannot change the appearance to any of the HeliX-Sweetpills. They appear in the list but nothing happens when I select them and click OK. It worked in beta 4. Are these appearances in some RPM that I perhaps didn't install?
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 problems...
On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 08:45, Malcolm-Rannirl wrote: I haven't noticed anyone mention these so far... I tried to use ext3 as my root partition (diskdrake is quite happy to let you set this up). However the system was unusable on booting as it appears to be unable to mount the root partition (it will load the initrd and get part way into the boot sequence, but if I try booting without the initrd it kernal panics). I have ext3 root fs without any problems at all... All set up by the install. So it works, which points to a problem with your particular setup. Apropos KDE, sorry, I plead GNOME :-) KDE bits and pieces work just fine for me under 8.2 however.. /Kevin -- Kevin J. Maciunas Net: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept. of Computer Science Ph : +61 8 8303 5845 University of Adelaide Fax: +61 8 8303 4366 Adelaide 5005 SOUTH AUSTRALIA Web: http://www.cs.adelaide.edu.au/~kevin Fingerprint = 7E5A A0C2 22BC 5993 17F2 93CE B1FD DEC6 D0C0 50CD
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 problems...
On Wednesday 27 March 2002 08:33 pm, Kevin J. Maciunas wrote: I tried to use ext3 as my root partition (diskdrake is quite happy to let you set this up). However the system was unusable on booting as it appears to be unable to mount the root partition (it will load the initrd and get part way into the boot sequence, but if I try booting without the initrd it kernal panics). I have ext3 root fs without any problems at all... I have a manually partitioned drive. I was actually upgrading and just wiped the previous reiserfs root partition to try ext3, the other partitions are still reiserfs. As far as I can tell it kept trying to mount root as if it were a reiserfs partition (changing fstab didn't affect it). I could find nothing in the setup that affected it. I ended up wiping the partition again and formating it as a reiserfs partition again and it worked. All set up by the install. So it works, which points to a problem with your particular setup. I have no idea what was different about mine. Apropos KDE, sorry, I plead GNOME :-) KDE bits and pieces work just fine for me under 8.2 however.. Bits and pieces work under a gnome desktop fine. It's just using full KDE that's the kiss of death for it. -- Understanding is a three-edged sword. - Kosh to Talia Winters in Babylon 5:Deathwalker -- This email is monitored by the US government under the auspice of the USA act. For private communication, ask me for my PGP key
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - msec question
At 06:40 PM 3/25/02, you wrote: David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings, I have msec set to level 2 and it runs at 1 minute past each hour. Each time it runs, /var/log/messages gets another line, i.e.: Mar 23 15:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Mar 23 16:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Mar 23 17:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Mar 23 18:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Mar 23 19:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and SystemMenu=true is added to /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, which currently has 71 copies of the line. What do I need to add to my system so that msec is happy and doesn't feel a need to generate this stuff? Which version of msec is installed ? Could you send me your /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf ? Fred, You can forget about this one. It was an XFree96 update issue. I investigated and found that my gdm.conf was old (from XFree86-4.1, or some such). When I replaced gdm.conf with the gdm.conf.rpmnew that I found, the problem weent away. David
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - cannot change Sawfish appearance
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:05:10 +0100, Kevin Krumwiede wrote: Just installed 8.2, running Gnome with Sawfish theme. I cannot change the appearance to any of the HeliX-Sweetpills. They appear in the list but nothing happens when I select them and click OK. It worked in beta 4. Are these appearances in some RPM that I perhaps didn't install? Remove your ~/.sawfish directory.. And 8.2 support is not done on cooker mailing list.. Use either confirm mailing list or mandrakeexpert.com -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Bug : Program Manager adding CD source
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ÷ ÷ÔÒ, 19.03.2002, × 23:00, Luc Roseberry ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: Fresh install of 8.2 Error adding new local CD source (Please don't tell me I am behind a firewall. It should not matter for a local cd drive). What do you expect to do after this report? What do you expect me to do after such a report ? I have three possibilities ? remove the features, keep it without change, improve it. Improving will be difficult I think, It is necessary (with current hdlist) to extract all headers of rpm and compress them in hdlist, then extract synthesis of this hdlist, we can extract directly synthesis of rpm without creating hdlist maybe ? If you have any other idea ? Francois, adding local CD-ROM source without hdlist is painfully slow. I waited for 20 minutes and had to kill urpmi.addmedia after that, and /var/cache/urpmi/headers was still somewhere inside of lib* . Adding with hdlist works as expected. Check with dmesg to see if there is any problem with kernel messages on the cdrom ? Have you tried with or without supermount ? Sorry for late response, I was absent for 5 days, François.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Bug : Program Manager adding CD source
Currently supermount and the popup error message is An error happenned while adding this source (the actual french version is Une erreur est survenue lors de l'ajout de cette source).There is only 1 second between clicking the OK button to add the new source and the poping of the error message. The CD I am trying to add is my purchased 8.0 Commercial Applications CD1 from the PowerPack 8.0. It seems to me that at one point in my tests the cd-drive was not supermount. Thanks, Luc Le lun 25/03/2002 à 04:59, François Pons a écrit : Francois, adding local CD-ROM source without hdlist is painfully slow. I waited for 20 minutes and had to kill urpmi.addmedia after that, and /var/cache/urpmi/headers was still somewhere inside of lib* . Adding with hdlist works as expected. Check with dmesg to see if there is any problem with kernel messages on the cdrom ? Have you tried with or without supermount ? Sorry for late response, I was absent for 5 days, François. -- Luc Roseberry Consultant Tivoli certifié / Certified Tivoli Consultant Facilité Informatique Canada
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - msec question
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings, I have msec set to level 2 and it runs at 1 minute past each hour. Each time it runs, /var/log/messages gets another line, i.e.: Mar 23 15:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Mar 23 16:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Mar 23 17:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Mar 23 18:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Mar 23 19:01:01 osage msec: set variable SystemMenu to true in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and SystemMenu=true is added to /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, which currently has 71 copies of the line. What do I need to add to my system so that msec is happy and doesn't feel a need to generate this stuff? Which version of msec is installed ? Could you send me your /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf ? -- Fred - May the source be with you
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 upgrade problem
It means X is trying to start (for KDM) and failing. You need to get X working again. Upgrading from 6.x to 8.2 isn't really supported, and more than likely things aren't perfect. I upgraded my parents from 6.1 to 8.1 by getting a new hard drive and doing a fresh install. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi cookers, I am upgrading a friends PC from Madrake 6.x to 8.2. Once the upgrade had completed and I tried to boot, I got an error. Init: Id x respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. After the five minutes it tries to complete the boot sequence but gets the same error. Any idea why this happens or of a workaround? I'd prefer to avoid a full reinstall if possible. Also, it seems to be a problem only with x as you can manually go into a terminal window despite the error. Any help is appreciated. Regards, Jason __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 MakeCD Segmentation fault
On Friday 22 Mar 2002 08:30, Warly wrote: Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [19:24 peter@penguin:/mnt/downloads/mandrake/8.2/tree/i586/misc]$ ./MakeCD Segmentation fault if you install mkcd package from main and use it instead of MakeCD, does it works? Thanks Warly, I just installed that and did: mkcd -a /mnt/downloads/mandrake/8.2/tree/i586/ It made 4 isos: 1-Cooker.iso647.9 MB 2-Cooker.iso648.8 MB 3-Cooker.iso634.2 MB 4-Cooker.iso 69.6 MB Does that look about right for 8.2? -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 5 hours 31 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have done an hd.img install of 8.2 which lacked the symbolic link from the RPMS directory to the contrib directory, the link being called RPMS2. The install proceeded well, except at the end libmetakit, gnome-guile, flightgear, kwintv, openuniverse, sylpheed, etc were reported as An error occurred These are all located in the contrib directory. So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing update packages only. Reread slowly this last sentence _None_ of the aforementioned packages were installed!!! What did I do wrong? How does one get the missing packages installed? -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 major problem: kde-i18n-da missing
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got 8.2 installed now! I noticed that my kde menus were not in danish, and I looked at the cds and kde-i18n-da is not there! Major problem in Denmark. Yes unfortunately I did not notice that and the danish as well as the slovenian are not on the CDs (but they are on the mirrors) I also noticed that when I chose the Danish keyboard kde-i18n-de was chosen. Uh! German and Danish are different languages! German is de, Danish is da Yes if the good one is not found, the installation just take one randomly. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 major problem: kde-i18n-da missing
On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 10:57:45AM +0100, Warly wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got 8.2 installed now! I noticed that my kde menus were not in danish, and I looked at the cds and kde-i18n-da is not there! Major problem in Denmark. Yes unfortunately I did not notice that and the danish as well as the slovenian are not on the CDs (but they are on the mirrors) They are not in the iso images on the mirrors. I think they should be in the errata areas for update. But they are not there either. Normal people do no consult cooker. I also noticed that when I chose the Danish keyboard kde-i18n-de was chosen. Uh! German and Danish are different languages! German is de, Danish is da Yes if the good one is not found, the installation just take one randomly. Where can this then be found (the danish aspell package?) Should be in errata also Keld
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 MakeCD Segmentation fault
Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 22 Mar 2002 08:30, Warly wrote: Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [19:24 peter@penguin:/mnt/downloads/mandrake/8.2/tree/i586/misc]$ ./MakeCD Segmentation fault if you install mkcd package from main and use it instead of MakeCD, does it works? Thanks Warly, I just installed that and did: mkcd -a /mnt/downloads/mandrake/8.2/tree/i586/ It made 4 isos: 1-Cooker.iso647.9 MB 2-Cooker.iso648.8 MB 3-Cooker.iso634.2 MB 4-Cooker.iso 69.6 MB Yes, that must be fine. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
On Saturday 23 Mar 2002 09:37, Warly wrote: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have done an hd.img install of 8.2 which lacked the symbolic link from the RPMS directory to the contrib directory, the link being called RPMS2. The install proceeded well, except at the end libmetakit, gnome-guile, flightgear, kwintv, openuniverse, sylpheed, etc were reported as An error occurred These are all located in the contrib directory. Me too, so I stopped the install in the middle of package installation by clicking on the bottom button and created the link to contrib like Ron did. So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing update packages only. Reread slowly this last sentence I then reran the install choosing expert upgrade and was given no opportunity to enter root password nor add any users - if I cliked on those buttons DrakX always looped straight to Summary. I just did a clean expert install then - which went OK. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 18 hours 6 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 major problem: kde-i18n-da missing
On Saturday 23 Mar 2002 10:46, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 10:57:45AM +0100, Warly wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] not there either. Normal people do no consult cooker. I second this - we're all crazy. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 18 hours 16 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Warly wrote: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing update packages only. Reread slowly this last sentence _None_ of the aforementioned packages were installed!!! What did I do wrong? How does one get the missing packages installed? Huh? Obscurity is unhelpful. The line before contains two simple questions which I am sure have simple answers. Update packages only surely means to add those which should be present. I have since done a full update install, to the same effect: _None_ of the aforementioned packages from 8.2 contrib were installed!!! What did I do wrong? How does one get the missing packages installed? Thankyou in anticipation. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
On Saturday 23 March 2002 07:29 am, you wrote: Warly wrote: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing update packages only. Reread slowly this last sentence What Warly left obscure is the fact you used the word UPGRADE ;) If the packages aren't on the system, they're not going to be upgraded. The only way I'd call that a bug is if you specifically checked them in the package list during this upgrade. I believe that if you check an unchecked/uninstalled package it should install it. In my case I forgot to make the sym link so I just installed the ones from the command prompt. Try going through the install again but choosing Install rather than upgrade. -Tim
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Tim McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday 23 March 2002 07:29 am, you wrote: Warly wrote: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing update packages only. Reread slowly this last sentence What Warly left obscure is the fact you used the word UPGRADE ;) If the packages aren't on the system, they're not going to be upgraded. The only way I'd call that a bug is if you specifically checked them in the package list during this upgrade. I believe that if you check an unchecked/uninstalled package it should install it. In my case I forgot to make the sym link so I just installed the ones from the command prompt. Try going through the install again but choosing Install rather than upgrade. yes -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 major problem: kde-i18n-da missing
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 10:57:45AM +0100, Warly wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got 8.2 installed now! I noticed that my kde menus were not in danish, and I looked at the cds and kde-i18n-da is not there! Major problem in Denmark. Yes unfortunately I did not notice that and the danish as well as the slovenian are not on the CDs (but they are on the mirrors) They are not in the iso images on the mirrors. I think they should be in the errata areas for update. But they are not there either. Normal people do no consult cooker. We should come up next week with an errata page where people could download the missing packages. The pacakges are in the 8.2 tree on the mirrors, that what I wanted to say. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Tim McKenzie wrote: What Warly left obscure is the fact you used the word UPGRADE ;) If the packages aren't on the system, they're not going to be upgraded. Of course they are on the syatem - in 9.2 contrib. How could it be otherwise? The only way I'd call that a bug is if you specifically checked them in the package list during this upgrade. I believe that if you check an unchecked/uninstalled package it should install it. As I explained upthread these are expert upgrade/packages only installs. For these cases, the selection panel is displayed with nothing checked - it should not be displayed). I always uncheck the individual package selection checkbox. So the problem remains. In my case I forgot to make the sym link so I just installed the ones from the command prompt. Try going through the install again but choosing Install rather than upgrade. I cannot do a fresh install because of the immense amount of work one must do to get from where the Mandrake installer leaves off to reach a useable system: arrange automount of the home partition on /home, from another linux remove all the contents of /home, replace fstab, replace lilo.conf, get rid of the /mnt directory in favour of a /local directory, set up many more mount points, set up the same set of mount points for each machine on the network under /machine name, replace /etc/resolv.conf, replace /etc/hosts, replace rc.local, replace wine.conf, install the iptables RPM (should have been installed by Mandrake), set up iptables scripts (I use MonMotha's), install the nfs-clients RPM, replace /etc/exports, run exportfs -r add a script for setting the clock (ntp-set) with panel invocation, set it executable by root, run kdf and worldwatch all the time, log on as root to set special schema for all root operations (These appear when su to root - this is a bad omission by Mandrake). etc. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Peter T. Breuer wrote: How can you say that? Your understanding of english is backwards! It means to update the packages you have, not to add new ones! Update is a verb that means to take something that you HAVE and make it new. It does not mean to give you anything you did not have before! Nope. To update means to bring your system into line with the vendor's present offerings for your application set. Example: Have a look at the Mandrake update utility on your desktop to see what update means. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:26:22 +1100 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer wrote: How can you say that? Your understanding of english is backwards! It means to update the packages you have, not to add new ones! Update is a verb that means to take something that you HAVE and make it new. It does not mean to give you anything you did not have before! Nope. To update means to bring your system into line with the vendor's present offerings for your application set. Example: Have a look at the Mandrake update utility on your desktop to see what update means. Ron Sounds like when the update errored on the Contrib pkgs that those pkgs were removed from your db. Try rpm -rebuilddb and see if that solves things. Charles
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Ron Stodden wrote: I cannot do a fresh install because of the immense amount of work one must do to get from where the Mandrake installer leaves off to reach a useable system: List amended: arrange automount of the home partition on /home, from another linux remove all the contents of /home, replace fstab, replace lilo.conf, run lilo, get rid of the /mnt directory in favour of a /local directory, set up many more mount points, set up the same set of mount points for each machine on the network under /machine name, replace /etc/resolv.conf, replace /etc/hosts, change end of rc.local, replace wine.conf, set default rouite of all non-gateway machines to the gateway (eth0), install the iptables RPM (should have been installed by Mandrake), set up iptables scripts (I use MonMotha's), install the nfs-clients RPM, replace /etc/exports, run exportfs -r add a script for setting the clock (ntp-set) with panel invocation, set it executable by root, run kdf and worldwatch all the time, log on as root to set special schema for all root operations (These appear when su to root - this is a bad omission by Mandrake). etc. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Charles A Edwards wrote: Sounds like when the update errored on the Contrib pkgs that those pkgs were removed from your db. Try rpm -rebuilddb and see if that solves things. I did - no change. RPMs from RPMS2 (contrib) not installed. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Todd Lyons wrote: No, it does three things: 1) Any rpm that exists on your system that is not on the new install CDs will be left alone. 2) Any rpm that exists on your system that is on the new install CDs will be rpm -U'd. 3) Any rpm required by those installed by step 2 will be installed. Case in point: Initial install without the RPMS2 link produced an error message for all the RPMs from contrib. Upgrade install, either form of upgrade, with the RPMS2 link in place and package selection unchanged (a blank form) should now attempt to install the RPMs it could not on the initial install. Surely? -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Upgrade Problem - ADSL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I tried to upgrade my LM8.1 to 8.2 (using the upgrade option). My PC is behind a firewall which is connected to the net via ADSL. To get 8.1 to connect to the net I had to set MTU on eth0 to 1492. That worked OK, but during the upgrade 8.2 goes to the net for the latest fixes. In my case the upgrade just hangs because eth0's MTU is reset to 1500 during the upgrade. All I can do is power down and try to recover. Any suggestions? Dallas PC is IBM PC300PL - PII 300Mhz, 128Mb RAM, eepro ethernet. Download the software and use a hard disk install or burn CDs. Network installs will be hanging anyway for a long time because mirrors are so busy. There is no way to override the MTU for the network install from the install side. This is the first time we have encountered a firewall like that, but great thanks for the analysis. Good Job! Civileme
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 MakeCD Segmentation fault
Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [19:24 peter@penguin:/mnt/downloads/mandrake/8.2/tree/i586/misc]$ ./MakeCD Segmentation fault if you install mkcd package from main and use it instead of MakeCD, does it works? -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - gnome-print-0.35-2mdk is missing a file
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:25:32 +0100, David Relson wrote: Greetings, Having just upgraded from 8.1 to 8.2 I ran rpm --verify to validate my update and noticed a file is reported missing - even after a fresh install of its rpm, i.e. gnome-print-0.35-2mdk.i586.rpm Here's the output from rpm installation and verification: [root@walnut installed]# rpm -iv libgnomeprint15* gnome-print* Preparing packages for installation... libgnomeprint15-0.35-2mdk gnome-print-0.35-2mdk [root@walnut installed]# rpm --verify gnome-print missing /etc/gnome/fonts/gnome-print-ghostscript.fontmap It is a ghost file.. it can be missing without any problem.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - gnome-print-0.35-2mdk is missing a file
At 11:53 AM 3/22/02, you wrote: [root@walnut installed]# rpm --verify gnome-print missing /etc/gnome/fonts/gnome-print-ghostscript.fontmap It is a ghost file.. it can be missing without any problem.. Frédéric, If it's not included and it's not needed, why is it checked for during the verification? David
Re: [Cooker] 8.2: gnome-core --- failed dependency
At 09:20 PM 3/22/02, you wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, David Relson wrote: With the new Mandrake 8.2, gnome-core-1.4.0.6-12mdk.i586.rpm has a dependency on gnome-desktop - which doesn't exist. Here's the failed dependencies message: [root@walnut installed]# rpm -iv gnome-core-1.4.0.6-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gnome-desktop is needed by gnome-core-1.4.0.6-12mdk gnome-desktop is provided by either nautilus or gmc. It appears to be nautilus, not gmc, that provides gnome-desktop. I seem to remember that there exists a tool to determine which package provides a needed component, but I've forgotten what it is. Do you know? Thanks.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2: gnome-core --- failed dependency
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 19:21, David Relson wrote: At 09:20 PM 3/22/02, you wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, David Relson wrote: With the new Mandrake 8.2, gnome-core-1.4.0.6-12mdk.i586.rpm has a dependency on gnome-desktop - which doesn't exist. Here's the failed dependencies message: [root@walnut installed]# rpm -iv gnome-core-1.4.0.6-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gnome-desktop is needed by gnome-core-1.4.0.6-12mdk gnome-desktop is provided by either nautilus or gmc. It appears to be nautilus, not gmc, that provides gnome-desktop. I seem to remember that there exists a tool to determine which package provides a needed component, but I've forgotten what it is. Do you know? Thanks. gmc also provides gnome-desktop. $ urpmf --provides gnome-desktop nautilus:provides:gnome-desktop gmc:provides:gnome-desktop Cheers, =--= kk1
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 bug MandrakeUpdate
Luc Roseberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nice try but it does not work. Still asking to change the CD to disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (cdrom3) which is already in the cd drive. Am I the only one testing with Mandrake Update and urpmi with package on CD3 of 8.3 or am I the only one with that bug in the final distribution? Could you give me the md5sum of your CD ? -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:26:04AM +0100, Pixel wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 8.2 gold wish: when selecting in drakx which GUI to use (kde/gnome etc) and whether to log in automatically the question on whether to autologin comes before the box to cose the GUI. I suggest to exchange these two items so that it is clearer what you are answering. I have mistakenly said yes here because I thought I chose kde, while I was in reality doing autologin, which is a security risk. oh come on, do you have a password in your bios lilo ? unless you have this, autologin is not a much bigger security risk. Anyway, I kind of agree with the idea. But I don't think the pb is big enough to bother changing this. I agree that is is a very minor problem (if not a wish). It could just had saved myself from some thinking time and posting a bogus error and some worries, and it could possibly also save some newbies from some confusion. After all, it is probably only a simple move of some lines in the code, and that could be done faster than the combined time we have spent on the question here. Kind regards keld
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
--- Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you have a password in your bios lilo ? unless you have this, autologin is not a much bigger security risk. It is when you want to lock your screen (screensaver + password) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
--- Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I kind of agree with the idea. But I don't think the pb is big enough to bother changing this. Considering the overzealous extreme paranoia that's caused you all to disable Indexes in Apache by default, and disable Xdmcp in KDM by default, I find this surprising. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
On Thursday 21 March 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 ISO's and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit sluggish at times but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to resell it as soon as its avilable in boxed format. The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system that has onboard Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B) (Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind of static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so often. I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten better with the newer kernel. Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next to the AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. All in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. /MattB -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
On Thursday 21 March 2002 08:13, you wrote: On Thursday 21 March 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 ISO's and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit sluggish at times but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to resell it as soon as its avilable in boxed format. The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system that has onboard Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B) (Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind of static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so often. I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten better with the newer kernel. Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next to the AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. All in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. /MattB I actually get the impression that windows will install on systems with hardware problems, where Linux will hard lock during the install process. I've seen at least 2 systems where Linux won't install, like it's probing hardware and finds a problem, but windows installs just fine. So far, this is just a theory, but I know windows can do strange things as far as recognizing hardware, and then when it misidentifies it, it uses it as something else.
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
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Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
Tech At Mathco Dot Com wrote: I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 ISO's and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit sluggish at times but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to resell it as soon as its avilable in boxed format. The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system that has onboard Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B) (Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind of static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so often. I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten better with the newer kernel. Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next to the AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). /MattB I got the same (probably - had clicks in sound, lot of them) way back in MDK 8.1 with this VIA KT133A Southbridge AC97 sound. It worked for me to manually switch to Alsa driver (by editing modules.conf, I think) - much better sound, no clicks anymore. I am not sure about MDK 8.2 (I upgraded and it stayed in Alsa), but in any case, check what driver you use. Michal
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Bug : Program Manager adding CD source
÷ ÷ÔÒ, 19.03.2002, × 23:00, Luc Roseberry ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: Fresh install of 8.2 Error adding new local CD source (Please don't tell me I am behind a firewall. It should not matter for a local cd drive). What do you expect to do after this report? Francois, adding local CD-ROM source without hdlist is painfully slow. I waited for 20 minutes and had to kill urpmi.addmedia after that, and /var/cache/urpmi/headers was still somewhere inside of lib* . Adding with hdlist works as expected. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
On Thursday 21 March 2002 06:29 am, you wrote: AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. All in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. /MattB I actually get the impression that windows will install on systems with hardware problems, where Linux will hard lock during the install process. I've seen at least 2 systems where Linux won't install, like it's probing hardware and finds a problem, but windows installs just fine. So far, this is just a theory, but I know windows can do strange things as far as recognizing hardware, and then when it misidentifies it, it uses it as something else. Yes this is true but just because it installs doesn't mean everything is ok. I own a small computer store and It's kind of funny; the public looks at it kind of like a toaster if they turn it on and it runs thats all they care about. It doesn't matter if everything is running with shunted drivers that are good enough to just barely make it run as long as it runs. You may not notice a slow down in windows but that doesn't mean the subsystems aren't running slower than they could. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
- Original Message - From: wyrmzr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments On Thursday 21 March 2002 08:13, you wrote: On Thursday 21 March 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 ISO's and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit sluggish at times but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to resell it as soon as its avilable in boxed format. The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system that has onboard Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B) (Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind of static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so often. I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten better with the newer kernel. Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next to the AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. All in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. /MattB I actually get the impression that windows will install on systems with hardware problems, where Linux will hard lock during the install process. I've seen at least 2 systems where Linux won't install, like it's probing hardware and finds a problem, but windows installs just fine. So far, this is just a theory, but I know windows can do strange things as far as recognizing hardware, and then when it misidentifies it, it uses it as something else. Yes thats true, Windows can do alot of strange things. /MattB
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. All in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. I'm seeing it a bit different in case there are no hardware troubles, and mistakes, IRQ sharing is good for linux but not for windo$e some time ago i had two free PCI slots and i bought a TV card, every try to install the drivers for win9x causes total freze there was no way to install winNT or 2k with the card pluged, but after instaling the ?OS? no troubles instaling the card but with linux not a little trouble and now i use all the PCI slots regarding the fact that one shares IRQ with the AGP bus, one with the on board HPT366 controler, and one with the USB it would be a wonder , if possible to install winxx on such a PC and linux works wonderfully [root@svetljo java]# cat /proc/pci PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 3). Master Capable. Latency=32. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd000 [0xd7ff]. Bus 0, device 1, function 0: PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 3). Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=128. Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 2). Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xf000 [0xf00f]. Bus 0, device 7, function 2: USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 1). IRQ 19. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xc000 [0xc01f]. Bus 0, device 7, function 3: Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 2). IRQ 9. Bus 0, device 9, function 0: VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 86C326 (rev 11). Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=2. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf00 [0xdf7f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf80 [0xdf80]. I/O at 0xc400 [0xc47f]. Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 17). IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=16.Max Lat=40. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf81b000 [0xdf81bfff]. Bus 0, device 11, function 1: Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 17). IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=255. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf818000 [0xdf818fff]. Bus 0, device 13, function 0: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 16). IRQ 17. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64. I/O at 0xc800 [0xc8ff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf819000 [0xdf8190ff]. Bus 0, device 15, function 0: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (#2) (rev 16). IRQ 16. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64. I/O at 0xcc00 [0xccff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf81a000 [0xdf81a0ff]. Bus 0, device 17, function 0: Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-744B [DS-1S Audio Controller] (rev 2). IRQ 19. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=25. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf81 [0xdf817fff]. I/O at 0xd000 [0xd03f]. I/O at 0xd400 [0xd403]. Bus 0, device 19, function 0: Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 (rev 1). IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8. I/O at 0xd800 [0xd807]. I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdc03]. I/O at 0xe000 [0xe0ff]. Bus 0, device 19, function 1: Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 (#2) (rev 1). IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8. I/O at 0xe400 [0xe407]. I/O at 0xe800 [0xe803]. I/O at 0xec00 [0xecff]. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP (rev 1). IRQ 16. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=16.Max Lat=32. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdc00 [0xddff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd800 [0xd8003fff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd900 [0xd97f]. /MattB I actually get the impression that windows will install on systems with hardware problems, where Linux will hard lock during the install process. I've seen at least 2 systems where Linux won't install, like it's probing hardware and finds a problem, but windows installs just fine. So far, this is just a theory, but I know
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 04:49:50PM +0100, Pixel wrote:
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
8.2 gold wish: when selecting in drakx which GUI to use
(kde/gnome etc) and whether to log in automatically
the question on whether to autologin comes before the
box to cose the GUI. I suggest to exchange these two
items so that it is clearer what you are answering.
I have mistakenly said yes here because I thought I chose
kde, while I was in reality doing autologin, which
is a security risk.
[...]
After all, it is probably only a simple move of some lines in the code,
and that could be done faster than the combined time we have spent
on the question here.
it's not that way (otherwise it would already be done, you're the second one
to ask this). the code is:
$in-ask_from_(
{ title = _(Autologin),
messages = _(I can set up your computer to automatically
log on one user.
Do you want to use this feature?),
ok = _(Yes),
cancel = _(No) },
[ { label = _(Choose the default user:), val =
\$o-{autologin}, list = \@users },
{ label = _(Choose the window manager to run:), val =
\$o-{desktop}, list = \@wm } ]
)
I don't want to add the ability to have the Yes/No before the entries. At
least not if it's not *really* needed (= more than one dialog box)
I dont know your ask_from_ API (or maybe struct?) how flexible it is,
but if this is the general API used everywhere for user input in drakx
there should be some control in what order labels and questions
be presented. I would move the last line up front, something like:
$in-ask_from_(
{ title = _(Autologin),
{ label = _(Choose the window manager to run:), val =
\$o-{desktop}, list = \@wm },
messages = _(I can set up your computer to automatically log on one
user.
Do you want to use this feature?),
ok = _(Yes),
cancel = _(No) },
{ label = _(Choose the default user:), val = \$o-{autologin},
list = \@users }
)
Kind regards
keld
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 and Segmentation fault registering java plug-in
On Thursday 21 March 2002 10:57 am, you wrote:
Hi
just installed 8.2 and downloaded the j2re-1_4_0_linux-i386.bin from
java.sun.com
After installing the j2re I followed the instruction to register the
plug-in
with mozilla:
If you use a Netscape 6.0x browser:
regxpcom ${JRE}/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
So I looked for regxpcom and found it in /usr/lib/mozilla
But when I ran it I got the following:
[root@mypc mozilla]# ./regxpcom
/usr/local/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Serge
I've been having a similar problem with mozilla and j2sdk-1.4 from sun. Mine
crashes and exits with this error:
Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x4019B724
Function=(null)+0x4019B724
Library=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
This happens with rc1 8.2 final (but all was good with betas).
-s
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 and Segmentation fault registering java plug-in
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 10:57, Serge Pluess wrote:
just installed 8.2 and downloaded the j2re-1_4_0_linux-i386.bin from
java.sun.com
After installing the j2re I followed the instruction to register the plug-in
with mozilla:
If you use a Netscape 6.0x browser:
regxpcom ${JRE}/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
So I looked for regxpcom and found it in /usr/lib/mozilla
But when I ran it I got the following:
[root@mypc mozilla]# ./regxpcom
/usr/local/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Hmmm, I simply made a symlink from the 1.4.0 plugins to the plugin
directories of the respective browsers. Galeon uses Moz' plugins, and
Konq grabs the Netscape ones, so all my browsers are happy. I just
restarted the browsers and they worked from the get-go.
And they finally (FINALLY!) pull applets through the Squid proxy here at
work successfully.
--
Brad Felmey
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
--- Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand why? If you have physical access, you can boot with init=/bin/bash and ... Not if the BIOS is passworded like you said before. Autologin does let you get to their stuff when you wouldn't have otherwise been able to. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 and Segmentation fault registering java plug-in
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:27:57 +0100, s wrote:
On Thursday 21 March 2002 10:57 am, you wrote:
Hi
just installed 8.2 and downloaded the j2re-1_4_0_linux-i386.bin from
java.sun.com
After installing the j2re I followed the instruction to register the
plug-in
with mozilla:
If you use a Netscape 6.0x browser:
regxpcom ${JRE}/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
So I looked for regxpcom and found it in /usr/lib/mozilla
But when I ran it I got the following:
[root@mypc mozilla]# ./regxpcom
/usr/local/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Serge
I've been having a similar problem with mozilla and j2sdk-1.4 from sun.
Mine crashes and exits with this error:
Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x4019B724
Function=(null)+0x4019B724
Library=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
This happens with rc1 8.2 final (but all was good with betas). -s
No problem here.. Please remove registration using regxpcom..
--
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 and Segmentation fault registering java plug-in
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 17:57:37 +0100, Serge Pluess wrote:
Hi
just installed 8.2 and downloaded the j2re-1_4_0_linux-i386.bin from
java.sun.com
After installing the j2re I followed the instruction to register the
plug-in with mozilla:
If you use a Netscape 6.0x browser:
regxpcom ${JRE}/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
You should not !!
There is a bug in JRE 1.4 with latest mozilla which causes this
segfault..
Mandrake RPM for mozilla autodetects jre rpm installation and configures
mozilla accordingly..
--
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you have a password in your bios lilo ? unless you have this, autologin is not a much bigger security risk. It is when you want to lock your screen (screensaver + password) I don't understand why? If you have physical access, you can boot with init=/bin/bash and ...
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
8.2 gold wish: when selecting in drakx which GUI to use
(kde/gnome etc) and whether to log in automatically
the question on whether to autologin comes before the
box to cose the GUI. I suggest to exchange these two
items so that it is clearer what you are answering.
I have mistakenly said yes here because I thought I chose
kde, while I was in reality doing autologin, which
is a security risk.
[...]
After all, it is probably only a simple move of some lines in the code,
and that could be done faster than the combined time we have spent
on the question here.
it's not that way (otherwise it would already be done, you're the second one
to ask this). the code is:
$in-ask_from_(
{ title = _(Autologin),
messages = _(I can set up your computer to automatically
log on one user.
Do you want to use this feature?),
ok = _(Yes),
cancel = _(No) },
[ { label = _(Choose the default user:), val =
\$o-{autologin}, list = \@users },
{ label = _(Choose the window manager to run:), val =
\$o-{desktop}, list = \@wm } ]
)
I don't want to add the ability to have the Yes/No before the entries. At
least not if it's not *really* needed (= more than one dialog box)
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I kind of agree with the idea. But I don't think the pb is big enough to bother changing this. Considering the overzealous extreme paranoia that's caused you all to disable Indexes in Apache by default, and disable Xdmcp in KDM by default, I find this surprising. As for me, I'm *not* paranoiac. My box has weak + empty passwords, xhost +, rsh ... since people having access to my box can have physical access. I'm all for please behave yourself than you won't heart me! For the default settings, I am against the typical (eg: redhat (*)) security which implies you really know how things work to enable a server: - services disabled by default on redhat - a firewall blocking everything As long as nobody have strong arguments, I'll try to maintain a default setting where it's easy to have server running and useful. Disabling xdmcp is good IMO because: - it is seldom used whereas kdm/xdm are installed on every box. It would be nice to have a separate package that would enable kdm/xdm when installed. - it allows to connect to the box when not many people know the existence of xdmcp I don't know for apache indexes. (*) redhat also disallows sys-reqs and ctr-alt-suppr which is only meaningful if the guy can access the keyboard but not the computer (it exists, but is seldom)
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 wish: exchange GUI choice and text in drakx
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 8.2 gold wish: when selecting in drakx which GUI to use (kde/gnome etc) and whether to log in automatically the question on whether to autologin comes before the box to cose the GUI. I suggest to exchange these two items so that it is clearer what you are answering. I have mistakenly said yes here because I thought I chose kde, while I was in reality doing autologin, which is a security risk. oh come on, do you have a password in your bios lilo ? unless you have this, autologin is not a much bigger security risk. Anyway, I kind of agree with the idea. But I don't think the pb is big enough to bother changing this.
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well when you said you published the code I've went to see it on your website. Yet since rpmmon does a few other things that giving the maintainer, and speed is not a problem on this side, I'm not going to change the architecture of the program. Thanks for your time! gc, as you just said to someone else one an internal ml, please read: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mail/edit.html -- Still untested beyond 'it compiles' (davej)
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Upgrade Problem - ADSL
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 07:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case the upgrade just hangs because eth0's MTU is reset to 1500 during the upgrade. All I can do is power down and try to recover. Any suggestions? Maybe switch to the virtual console with the shell prompt, and use ifconfig? Liam
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 - small (?) problem with OpenOffice?
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 05:43:18PM +1030, Kevin Maciunas wrote: file just fine, BUT - If I click on **any** of the menus, they pull down fine and promptly disappear before you can click on any entry! I had this with the Sawfish Window Manager. Try some different mouse focus settings. I got rid of it. Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW von Frauen für Frauen, Hamburghttp://www.w4w.net/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Helsinki http://www.sappho.net/ IM-NETZ Neue Medien, Berlin http://www.im-netz.de/
