Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
Hi David, >On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 06:09:57PM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: >> David, >> >> >I would be more interested in kspread reports actually ;-) >> > >> Installed KOffice here too. Applications start, but they all crash (not only >kspread, but since you asked for it:) when I try to open an existing document or save >a new one. >> >> Error message: >> kurl (kdecore): Error in parsing "Root Directory: /" >> /usr/bin/kspread.sh: line 3: 2753 Segmentation fault kspread > >Got a similar report. :( >Try adding a line with "kbuildsycoca" after "kdeinit +kded" in >/opt/kde2/bin/kde2 and starting the app again from the K menu. > >Looks like I'll have to fix that. > That'll keep you busy ;-) Adding this line didn't work for me. Same error message. >> It looks real nice otherwise. I like the inclusion of the extra kcalc. >> >> Just noticing that the buttons of the three left columns don't display the text >entirely. The bottom is cut which makes them hard to read. > >In kspread ? Which columns ? A, B, C ? ;-) > Nope, The first three columns of the calculator ;-) later, =-= kk1 (Following lines are not from me). -- Do you do Linux? :) Get your FREE @linuxstart.com email address at: http://www.linuxstart.com
RE: RE: [Cooker] KOffice packages
Yo! > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 02:25:03PM +0800, geoffrey lee wrote: > > Yo! > > > > > you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure > > > could tell us more precisely ;) > > > > > > > Gael, i think kde support is only the header files and static > libraries...so > > i don't think you need htat to run kde stuff. > > No, he's right, some parts of KDE require kdesupport, depending > on the libs shipped with the distro (kdesupport is only 3rd party libs). > Especially kdenetwork needs it, etc. > But not koffice, that's why there is no kdesupport2 in cooker ;-) i see. thanks for clearing that up. i just learned something new today. :-) i got fooled by all the static libraries and the header files in kdesupport ... Geoff. > > -- > David FAURE > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.clara.net/faure/ > KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today >
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:06:33PM +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote: > Gael Duval wrote: > > Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread > > table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs > > to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed > > up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. > > OK, here a kspread-bug: > > Sorry it is not 100% reproducable, but in 1 of 3 times: > * Try to open a ".xls" file with kspread. > * work a little bit with the spredasheet > * Try to open a ".ksp" file > => Error Requester "Could not import file of type application/x-kspread" And it works if opening that ksp file directly ? If you try after running kspread.sh from a terminal, is there anything interesting in the output ? > How could kpresenter be unable to open its own files ??? It's called kspread, not kpresenter ;-) I doubt I'll be able to reproduce that. Perhaps you could send me the files that do this ? -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
Gael Duval wrote: > Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread > table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs > to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed > up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. OK, here a kspread-bug: Sorry it is not 100% reproducable, but in 1 of 3 times: * Try to open a ".xls" file with kspread. * work a little bit with the spredasheet * Try to open a ".ksp" file => Error Requester "Could not import file of type application/x-kspread" How could kpresenter be unable to open its own files ??? -- Tschüss und bis demnächst, Stefan +-+ | Stefan Siegel | | Kurt-Schumacher-Str. 34 / App. 144 | | D-67663 Kaiserslautern | | Tel.: +49-631-18269 | |-| | http://www.student.uni-kl.de/~siegel/ | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | PGP Public Key: | | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 06:09:57PM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: > David, > > >I would be more interested in kspread reports actually ;-) > > > Installed KOffice here too. Applications start, but they all crash (not only >kspread, but since you asked for it:) when I try to open an existing document or save >a new one. > > Error message: > kurl (kdecore): Error in parsing "Root Directory: /" > /usr/bin/kspread.sh: line 3: 2753 Segmentation fault kspread Got a similar report. :( Try adding a line with "kbuildsycoca" after "kdeinit +kded" in /opt/kde2/bin/kde2 and starting the app again from the K menu. Looks like I'll have to fix that. > It looks real nice otherwise. I like the inclusion of the extra kcalc. > > Just noticing that the buttons of the three left columns don't display the text >entirely. The bottom is cut which makes them hard to read. In kspread ? Which columns ? A, B, C ? ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: RE: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 02:25:03PM +0800, geoffrey lee wrote: > Yo! > > > you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure > > could tell us more precisely ;) > > > > Gael, i think kde support is only the header files and static libraries...so > i don't think you need htat to run kde stuff. No, he's right, some parts of KDE require kdesupport, depending on the libs shipped with the distro (kdesupport is only 3rd party libs). Especially kdenetwork needs it, etc. But not koffice, that's why there is no kdesupport2 in cooker ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
RE: [Cooker] KOffice packages
Yo! > -Original Message- > From: David Faure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 6:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages > > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 06:09:46PM -0500, David Walluck wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, David Faure wrote: > > > > > Note that all KDE-2 packages (mine and nebsllc's) use /opt/kde2, so > > > using both KDEs is no problem. See > http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html > > > for how to set up KDE 1 > and KDE 2 for the same user (you can run apps > > > of one from the other, and you can even select in i _still_ prefer /usr/kde2!! maybe that could be a suggestion for the kde2 release rpm. what i'm suggesting, is that since kde is so big, we could have a "root" for kde stuff. i.e. /usr/kde2/bin for binaries, /usr/kde2/sbin, /usr/kde2/share, /usr/kde2/lib etc. kdm which one to use > > > at login time). > > > > Why are the cooker one's different... > I told you, because they only include koffice, not kde 2. > > > seeing how you are working for > > Mandrake, and yours are "better", why not distribute yours in Mandrake > > instead? > They're not "better", they're different in that they don't > provide a desktop > but an office suite, possibly for inclusion in 7.1. > KDE-2 is not ready to be used by "the masses", which is why it's not part > of it. > And I also like the fact that it finally proves that KOffice does > NOT require > kde 2 (nor even kde 1). It's a complete office suite that can be run > under any window manager / desktop. > maybe i'll download koffice during the weekend and see what it's like. the screenshots look very good btw. > > Also, if /opt is relocatable to /usr then that would work, or I > could even > > do rpm --badrelocate /opt=/usr *.rpm. > I wouldn't do that ;-) > I'm afraid /opt/kde2 is hardcoded in the wrapper scripts used by my > koffice packages ... :-} > > But you can grab the sources and compile them using the prefix > you want ;-) > hmm...i might think about compiling in --prefix=/usr/kde2 as an experiment and see hwo things go. :-) :-) Geoff. > -- > David FAURE > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.clara.net/faure/ > KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today >
RE: [Cooker] KOffice packages
Yo! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gael Duval > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 6:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: David Faure > Subject: Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages > > > David Walluck a écrit : > > > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > > > > > I don't see what would prevent you to test/install the above koffice > > > packages if you don't install KDE1! > > > > > > > > If I misunderstood please _either_: > > > > > > - bash on me > > > - re-explain differently > > > > It was my fault for not explaining clearly. I meant that is does require > > kdelibs 2 and qt 2.1 (beta). I know that you do not need kdebase to use > > it, but I figure if I am going to have to download kdelibs and > qt (pretty > > big for me), that I would download kdebse2, but only if I could > use it in > > place of KDE 1, and that's what I wanted to know. > > you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure > could tell us more precisely ;) > Gael, i think kde support is only the header files and static libraries...so i don't think you need htat to run kde stuff. > I've tested the whole new KDE2 recently and it's usable. Not 100% > stable, usable. > > Greets, > > Gael. > > -- > < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > < http://www.mandrake.com > > Geoff.
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, David Faure wrote: > And I also like the fact that it finally proves that KOffice does NOT require > kde 2 (nor even kde 1). It's a complete office suite that can be run > under any window manager / desktop. Sorry again! I was somehow confused that KOffice neeed KDE2, even though as you said, you stated multiple times it did not, but again, I think we were talking about kdelibs2, and not the entire K Destop Evnvironment v2.
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
David, >I would be more interested in kspread reports actually ;-) > Installed KOffice here too. Applications start, but they all crash (not only kspread, but since you asked for it:) when I try to open an existing document or save a new one. Error message: kurl (kdecore): Error in parsing "Root Directory: /" /usr/bin/kspread.sh: line 3: 2753 Segmentation fault kspread Tell me if you need more info. It looks real nice otherwise. I like the inclusion of the extra kcalc. Just noticing that the buttons of the three left columns don't display the text entirely. The bottom is cut which makes them hard to read. cu, =-= kk1 =-= kk1 (Following lines are not from me). -- Do you do Linux? :) Get your FREE @linuxstart.com email address at: http://www.linuxstart.com
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:59:32AM +0200, David Odin (aka DindinX) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 11:22:29PM +0200, Gael Duval wrote: > > Hello, > > > > by the way, did some of you install the new Koffice packages just made > > by David Faure? > > > > Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread > > table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs > > to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed > > up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. > > > > Ok. I've just downloaded and install it. > > Here's my first impressions: > > - It really looks like a complete suite, good, > - Good overall works, :) > - I don't like the widget set, but everybody knows that :) > (I guess it is themable, isn't it? so this isn't a big deal...) Yes, it is themed. But without kdebase2, you have no GUI for choosing the theme ;-) You can still try from the command line though. source /opt/kde2/bin/kde2 cd /opt/kde2/share/apps/kstyle/themes list the files in that directory, pick your theme, and then settheme $PWD/themename.rc Hmm, seems you need to log off and back in, though. (Which is not necessary when using the control center) > - In KWord: > - If you're on the last Tab of a line and you press the 'Tab' key, > the cursor is moved on the first Tab of the next line when I > expected it to go to the beginning of the next line. > - The use of Tab with Enumerated list make Kword segfault. > I know, it is not something we're supposed to use every day but it > shouldn't SegFault. Forwarded to the KWord author. > I've not gone any further for now. I would be more interested in kspread reports actually ;-) Also, have a look at kpresenter if you have 5 minutes - this one is really good, I've been using it for 10 months now. > David Faure, please don't take these as criticisms but merely as bug > reports. Sure, no problem at all ;-) They are bug reports ;-) > Koffice looks great and is a great project, even if I'm a GTK-geek :) I know ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 11:22:29PM +0200, Gael Duval wrote: > Hello, > > by the way, did some of you install the new Koffice packages just made > by David Faure? > > Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread > table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs > to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed > up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. > Ok. I've just downloaded and install it. Here's my first impressions: - It really looks like a complete suite, good, - Good overall works, - I don't like the widget set, but everybody knows that :) (I guess it is themable, isn't it? so this isn't a big deal...) - In KWord: - If you're on the last Tab of a line and you press the 'Tab' key, the cursor is moved on the first Tab of the next line when I expected it to go to the beginning of the next line. - The use of Tab with Enumerated list make Kword segfault. I know, it is not something we're supposed to use every day but it shouldn't SegFault. I've not gone any further for now. David Faure, please don't take these as criticisms but merely as bug reports. Koffice looks great and is a great project, even if I'm a GTK-geek :) Regards, DindinX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] HF Team
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 06:09:46PM -0500, David Walluck wrote: > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, David Faure wrote: > > > Note that all KDE-2 packages (mine and nebsllc's) use /opt/kde2, so > > using both KDEs is no problem. See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html > > for how to set up KDE 1 and KDE 2 for the same user (you can run apps > > of one from the other, and you can even select in kdm which one to use > > at login time). > > Why are the cooker one's different... I told you, because they only include koffice, not kde 2. > seeing how you are working for > Mandrake, and yours are "better", why not distribute yours in Mandrake > instead? They're not "better", they're different in that they don't provide a desktop but an office suite, possibly for inclusion in 7.1. KDE-2 is not ready to be used by "the masses", which is why it's not part of it. And I also like the fact that it finally proves that KOffice does NOT require kde 2 (nor even kde 1). It's a complete office suite that can be run under any window manager / desktop. > Also, if /opt is relocatable to /usr then that would work, or I could even > do rpm --badrelocate /opt=/usr *.rpm. I wouldn't do that ;-) I'm afraid /opt/kde2 is hardcoded in the wrapper scripts used by my koffice packages ... :-} But you can grab the sources and compile them using the prefix you want ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, David Walluck wrote: > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, David Faure wrote: > > Why are the cooker one's different... seeing how you are working for > Mandrake, and yours are "better", why not distribute yours in Mandrake > instead? > > Also, if /opt is relocatable to /usr then that would work, or I could even > do rpm --badrelocate /opt=/usr *.rpm. > Ugh, sorry to bug you, but I'm leaving in a bit so be happy, but while I have you, whatever happened to the high color icons in KDE 1.1 and above... did Mandraker remove these? They really gave KDE a much nicer look. And the netslc site appears to not have RPMS at this time, but I was checking out some KDE 2 screenshots and saw the great high-color icons, and that question sprung to mind.
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, David Faure wrote: > Note that all KDE-2 packages (mine and nebsllc's) use /opt/kde2, so > using both KDEs is no problem. See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html > for how to set up KDE 1 and KDE 2 for the same user (you can run apps > of one from the other, and you can even select in kdm which one to use > at login time). Why are the cooker one's different... seeing how you are working for Mandrake, and yours are "better", why not distribute yours in Mandrake instead? Also, if /opt is relocatable to /usr then that would work, or I could even do rpm --badrelocate /opt=/usr *.rpm.
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 05:41:37PM -0500, David Walluck wrote: > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > > > > > > > It was my fault for not explaining clearly. I meant that is does require > > > kdelibs 2 and qt 2.1 (beta). I know that you do not need kdebase to use > > > it, but I figure if I am going to have to download kdelibs and qt (pretty > > > big for me), that I would download kdebse2, but only if I could use it in > > > place of KDE 1, and that's what I wanted to know. > > > > you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure > > could tell us more precisely ;) > > > > I've tested the whole new KDE2 recently and it's usable. Not 100% > > stable, usable. > > > Yes, but the question remains. Can I replace (e.g. uninstall) KDE 1 and > install just KDE 2 in Cooker at this point and have things be happy? They > may require locating to add more standard location of /usr or maybe some > symlinks for compatibility, I don't know. As you said, David probably > knows best :) Here I am ;-) No, I wouldn't recommend to get rid of KDE 1 if you use cooker's rpms (of any KDE-1 application that is not part of the standard packages). But if you download the whole lot of KDE-2 packages from www.nebsllc.com, you can use it as your every day desktop (like I do). Note that all KDE-2 packages (mine and nebsllc's) use /opt/kde2, so using both KDEs is no problem. See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 1 and KDE 2 for the same user (you can run apps of one from the other, and you can even select in kdm which one to use at login time). -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 12:24:38AM +0200, Gael Duval wrote: > David Walluck a écrit : > > > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > > > > > I don't see what would prevent you to test/install the above koffice > > > packages if you don't install KDE1! > > > > > > > > If I misunderstood please _either_: > > > > > > - bash on me > > > - re-explain differently > > > > It was my fault for not explaining clearly. I meant that is does require > > kdelibs 2 and qt 2.1 (beta). I know that you do not need kdebase to use > > it, but I figure if I am going to have to download kdelibs and qt (pretty > > big for me), that I would download kdebse2, but only if I could use it in > > place of KDE 1, and that's what I wanted to know. > > you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure > could tell us more precisely ;) Well, those packages are meant to run on KDE-1, so they don't include kdebase2, kdenetwork2, etc. If you want to test KDE-2.x, instead of using those packages, I would recommend using those available on http://www.nebsllc.com instead. Don't mix them - this stuff evolves quickly, so the dates of all packages have to match exactly. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > > > > It was my fault for not explaining clearly. I meant that is does require > > kdelibs 2 and qt 2.1 (beta). I know that you do not need kdebase to use > > it, but I figure if I am going to have to download kdelibs and qt (pretty > > big for me), that I would download kdebse2, but only if I could use it in > > place of KDE 1, and that's what I wanted to know. > > you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure > could tell us more precisely ;) > > I've tested the whole new KDE2 recently and it's usable. Not 100% > stable, usable. Yes, but the question remains. Can I replace (e.g. uninstall) KDE 1 and install just KDE 2 in Cooker at this point and have things be happy? They may require locating to add more standard location of /usr or maybe some symlinks for compatibility, I don't know. As you said, David probably knows best :)
RE: [Cooker] KOffice packages
Just got these running nicely on my Mandrake 7.0-2 box. Awesome! Real simple, just like you said. Don Head Linux Mentor Wave Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935] [IRC - EFnet, #WaveTech, Don-Wave] -Original Message- From: Gael Duval [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] KOffice packages Hello, by the way, did some of you install the new Koffice packages just made by David Faure? You just have to download: kdelibs2-1.89.2324-1mdk.i586.rpm koffice-1.89.2324-1mdk.i586.rpm qt21-2.1.0-0.3.1mdk.i586.rpm from cooker-contrib (for example from: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS/) Install them (it won't break your current KDE install) and run: kword.sh kspread.sh kpresenter.sh killustrator.sh Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. Greets, Gael. -- < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > < http://www.mandrake.com >
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
David Walluck a écrit : > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > > > I don't see what would prevent you to test/install the above koffice > > packages if you don't install KDE1! > > > > > If I misunderstood please _either_: > > > > - bash on me > > - re-explain differently > > It was my fault for not explaining clearly. I meant that is does require > kdelibs 2 and qt 2.1 (beta). I know that you do not need kdebase to use > it, but I figure if I am going to have to download kdelibs and qt (pretty > big for me), that I would download kdebse2, but only if I could use it in > place of KDE 1, and that's what I wanted to know. you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure could tell us more precisely ;) I've tested the whole new KDE2 recently and it's usable. Not 100% stable, usable. Greets, Gael. -- < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > < http://www.mandrake.com >
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > I don't see what would prevent you to test/install the above koffice > packages if you don't install KDE1! > > If I misunderstood please _either_: > > - bash on me > - re-explain differently It was my fault for not explaining clearly. I meant that is does require kdelibs 2 and qt 2.1 (beta). I know that you do not need kdebase to use it, but I figure if I am going to have to download kdelibs and qt (pretty big for me), that I would download kdebse2, but only if I could use it in place of KDE 1, and that's what I wanted to know.
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
David Walluck a écrit : > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > > > Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread > > table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs > > to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed > > up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. > > Actually, that's my problem. I know they are not of good quality yet so > that they can be used as the man window manager (KDE 2) I mean, but I > would like to know if I have the option of NOT installing KDE 1, and just > installing KDE 2, as I don't have the diskspace for both. I have a feeling > that not installing KDE 1 is going to break the dependency for any KDE app > in Cooker at this point though :( I don't see what would prevent you to test/install the above koffice packages if you don't install KDE1! You have: KOffice ^ | Kdelibs2.0 ^ | Qt2.1 (graphical toolkit) ^ | X11 AFAIK you can even test them just by running X without any window-manager! (I wouldn't do it ;)) If I misunderstood please _either_: - bash on me - re-explain differently Greets, G. -- < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > < http://www.mandrake.com >
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: > Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread > table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs > to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed > up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. Actually, that's my problem. I know they are not of good quality yet so that they can be used as the man window manager (KDE 2) I mean, but I would like to know if I have the option of NOT installing KDE 1, and just installing KDE 2, as I don't have the diskspace for both. I have a feeling that not installing KDE 1 is going to break the dependency for any KDE app in Cooker at this point though :( > > Greets, > > Gael. > > -- > < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > < http://www.mandrake.com > >
