Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
Jean-Michel Dault a écrit : > Yes, you are right... By the way, which JRE/JDK will we ship with the 7.2? > Still Sun, or IBM? BlackDown has also released its jdk1.3 RC1, that doesn't suffer from Sun's major non-US keyboard problem. -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In the next release, I will put Buildrequires: jdk, but Requires: jre. I > > will ask Maurizio to add Provides: jre in kaffe > > I don't know, i am a little bit perplex, for two reasons: > > 1- kaffe is not 1.1 compliant; it is really buggy, and every use of kaffe >instead of the Sun jre should be tested explicitly; i don't want to >suggest that kaffe is really a substitute for the Sun jre because it is not >(yet) ... > > 2- the jre/jdk tags should be better structured; they should at least include >the Java version (1.1., 1.2, 1.3) ... I agree. Pls do not assume Kaffe works... The only Sun Compliant JDKs are from IBM, Blackdown and.. Sun which unfortunately are not Open Source. Fred -- Frederic Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sonera SmartTrust Ltd mob: +44 (0)789 990 5604 8 the Square / Stockley Park tel: +44 (0)208 606 6136 Uxbridge, UB11 1FW (UK) fax: +44 (0)208 606 6130
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
> Also sprach Stefan van der Eijk : > > My next question is: Should ApacheJserv be in cooker if it's dependant > > on a package that's not in cooker (for a reason --> licensing)? Why not > > distribute ApacheJserv on the 2nd Application CD? Or are there other > > JVM's available which can be put on the cooker CD (licencing). Can't > > this be done with kaffe or jikes? I'm not into all this java stuff, just > > wondering... > I didn't tried kaffee, but it should work with JServ, as it is a > Java1-compliant jvm. Jikes is just a java compiler, and is not > sufficient. I just tried launching ApacheJServ with Kaffe, and it works. However I wasn't able to *compile* it with kaffe, and the only compatible jdk we provide is the jdk-sun, in the 2nd App CD. > If fact, JServ should not requires a jdk (java development kit), but a > jre (java runtime environnement). So the requirement tag for it should > be changed, and kaffe should provides this. In the next release, I will put Buildrequires: jdk, but Requires: jre. I will ask Maurizio to add Provides: jre in kaffe In the meantime, a real java hacker will surely know the --nodeps option in rpm ;-) > > -- > Guillaume Rousse > > Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. > O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist. > Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MandrakeSoft inc, Montreal (Canada) HTCPCP/1.0 Developper (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt)
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 05:39:54PM +0400, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ rpm -qp --provides > /mnt/cdrom/Sun-JDK/RPMS/jdk-sun-1.2.2-2mdk.i586.rpm | grep jdk So ApacheJServ should either be put on the same CD, or, which I'd prefer more, should be moved to Contrib. Packages that are not installable with freely available packages do not belong to the main distribution IMHO. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
> I didn't tried kaffee, but it should work with JServ, as it is a > Java1-compliant jvm. Jikes is just a java compiler, and is not > sufficient. Clear. > If fact, JServ should not requires a jdk (java development kit), but a > jre (java runtime environnement). So the requirement tag for it should > be changed, and kaffe should provides this. We'll also need to change kaffe, as it currently doesn't provide that tag: [stefan@stefan tmp]$ rpm -qa | grep kaf kaffe-1.0.6-2mdk [stefan@stefan tmp]$ rpm -q kaffe --provides libawt-1.0.6.so libio-1.0.6.so libkaffevm-1.0.6.so libkaffexprof-1.0.6.so libmanagement-1.0.6.so libmath-1.0.6.so libmicrosoft-1.0.6.so libnative-1.0.6.so libnet-1.0.6.so libsecurity-1.0.6.so libzip-1.0.6.so Stefan PS: Now only if I could get kaffe to compile on my alpha... hmmm http://d10179.dtk.chello.nl/build/cooker/alpha/problem/kaffe-1.0.6-2mdk.src.rpm.txt (if you haven't got spare time on your hands, don't even look at it ;-) ).
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
Also sprach Stefan van der Eijk : > My next question is: Should ApacheJserv be in cooker if it's dependant > on a package that's not in cooker (for a reason --> licensing)? Why not > distribute ApacheJserv on the 2nd Application CD? Or are there other > JVM's available which can be put on the cooker CD (licencing). Can't > this be done with kaffe or jikes? I'm not into all this java stuff, just > wondering... I didn't tried kaffee, but it should work with JServ, as it is a Java1-compliant jvm. Jikes is just a java compiler, and is not sufficient. If fact, JServ should not requires a jdk (java development kit), but a jre (java runtime environnement). So the requirement tag for it should be changed, and kaffe should provides this. -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: -- Daouda LO MandrakeSoft SA
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
> > > > > > You can download the RPM from either site. The last time I looked it was 1.3 > > > at IBM and 1.22 at Sun. > > > > Note the other post which shows which package 'jdk' is in. > > > > Regarding the IBM package: I have IBMJava2-SDK-1.3-1.1.i386.rpm installed. > > There is no such file in it... > Stefan's question was about which Mandrake package was providing the > virtual 'jdk' package, so as to solve the dependency of ApacheJServ, not > about how to get the jdk himself. Exactly. > It is normal that other distribution > rpm (such as redhat packages distributed by Sun or IBM) doesn't provide > it, as they don't follow the same guidelines. And tarball, by > definition, doesn't provides anything. Yes. > Still on the subject, blackdown isn't the official jdk provider for > Linux, just the group that provided the first Linux port. Actually, Sun, > Ibm and Blackdwon all provides official jdk, as Sun licensing is > mandatory (java isn't really open source). And Sun's jdk is reference > jdk. My next question is: Should ApacheJserv be in cooker if it's dependant on a package that's not in cooker (for a reason --> licensing)? Why not distribute ApacheJserv on the 2nd Application CD? Or are there other JVM's available which can be put on the cooker CD (licencing). Can't this be done with kaffe or jikes? I'm not into all this java stuff, just wondering... Stefan
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
Also sprach Antony Suter : > > Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Khawar Zia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > hey, > > > I think u need to download jdk separately. > > > U can try www.sun.com or www.ibm.com > > > later > > > --Khawar Zia > > > > > > You can download the RPM from either site. The last time I looked it was 1.3 > > at IBM and 1.22 at Sun. > > Note the other post which shows which package 'jdk' is in. > > Regarding the IBM package: I have IBMJava2-SDK-1.3-1.1.i386.rpm installed. > There is no such file in it... Stefan's question was about which Mandrake package was providing the virtual 'jdk' package, so as to solve the dependency of ApacheJServ, not about how to get the jdk himself. It is normal that other distribution rpm (such as redhat packages distributed by Sun or IBM) doesn't provide it, as they don't follow the same guidelines. And tarball, by definition, doesn't provides anything. Still on the subject, blackdown isn't the official jdk provider for Linux, just the group that provided the first Linux port. Actually, Sun, Ibm and Blackdwon all provides official jdk, as Sun licensing is mandatory (java isn't really open source). And Sun's jdk is reference jdk. -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
Charles A Edwards wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Khawar Zia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > hey, > > I think u need to download jdk separately. > > U can try www.sun.com or www.ibm.com > > later > > --Khawar Zia > > > You can download the RPM from either site. The last time I looked it was 1.3 > at IBM and 1.22 at Sun. Note the other post which shows which package 'jdk' is in. Regarding the IBM package: I have IBMJava2-SDK-1.3-1.1.i386.rpm installed. There is no such file in it... [antony@gamut ibm]$ rpm -qi IBMJava2-SDK Name: IBMJava2-SDK Relocations: /opt Version : 1.3 Vendor: International Business Machines Release : 1.1 Build Date: Tue 15 Aug 2000 20:02:23 ESTInstall date: Mon 02 Oct 2000 01:50:25 EST Build Host: sovbld12e.hursley.ibm.com Group : Development/Languages Source RPM: IBMJava2-SDK-1.3-1.1.src.rpmSize: 58406979 License: Commercial Packager: International Business Machines URL : http://www.software.ibm.com Summary : IBMJava2-1.3 SDK Description : IBM Java Developer Kit for Linux, Java2(TM) Technology Edition v1.3 -- - Antony Suter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Examiner" openpgp:71ADFC87 - "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
The home of the official Linux JDK is www.blackdown.org --- Khawar Zia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey, > I think u need to download jdk separately. > U can try www.sun.com or www.ibm.com > later > > --Khawar Zia > - Original Message - > From: "Stefan van der Eijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Cooker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:28 AM > Subject: [Cooker] which package provides jdk? > > > > Hi, > > > > While trying to rebuild ApacheJServ I got the > following output: > > > > error: failed build dependencies: > > jdk is needed by ApacheJServ-1.1.2-5mdk > > Installing > /mirrors/SRPMS/ApacheJServ-1.1.2-5mdk.src.rpm > > > > Which package provides "jdk"? None of the cooker > packages, the packages > > on the 7.1 x86 application CD or the contrib > packages do. > > > > Stefan > > > > > = Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE Linux Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
Also sprach Stefan van der Eijk : > > Hi, > > While trying to rebuild ApacheJServ I got the following output: > > error: failed build dependencies: > jdk is needed by ApacheJServ-1.1.2-5mdk > Installing /mirrors/SRPMS/ApacheJServ-1.1.2-5mdk.src.rpm > > Which package provides "jdk"? None of the cooker packages, the packages > on the 7.1 x86 application CD or the contrib packages do. [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ rpm -qp --provides /mnt/cdrom/Sun-JDK/RPMS/jdk-sun-1.2.2-2mdk.i586.rpm | grep jdk jdk = 1.2.2 This package is on the 2nd Application CD -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
- Original Message - From: "Khawar Zia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk? > hey, > I think u need to download jdk separately. > U can try www.sun.com or www.ibm.com > later > --Khawar Zia You can download the RPM from either site. The last time I looked it was 1.3 at IBM and 1.22 at Sun. Charles > - Original Message - > From: "Stefan van der Eijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Cooker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:28 AM > Subject: [Cooker] which package provides jdk? > > > > Hi, > > > > While trying to rebuild ApacheJServ I got the following output: > > > > error: failed build dependencies: > > jdk is needed by ApacheJServ-1.1.2-5mdk > > Installing /mirrors/SRPMS/ApacheJServ-1.1.2-5mdk.src.rpm > > > > Which package provides "jdk"? None of the cooker packages, the packages > > on the 7.1 x86 application CD or the contrib packages do. > > > > Stefan > > > > > >
Re: [Cooker] which package provides jdk?
hey, I think u need to download jdk separately. U can try www.sun.com or www.ibm.com later --Khawar Zia - Original Message - From: "Stefan van der Eijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cooker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:28 AM Subject: [Cooker] which package provides jdk? > Hi, > > While trying to rebuild ApacheJServ I got the following output: > > error: failed build dependencies: > jdk is needed by ApacheJServ-1.1.2-5mdk > Installing /mirrors/SRPMS/ApacheJServ-1.1.2-5mdk.src.rpm > > Which package provides "jdk"? None of the cooker packages, the packages > on the 7.1 x86 application CD or the contrib packages do. > > Stefan > >
