Problems installing ppc 8.0
Alright i'm on a g4/733. I erased the drive and made two partitionstwo problems...i've got the geforce2mx and I cann't run any of the graphical installs without garbage being sent to the screen...is there a problem there or is there an option I'm not trying...secondlyafter I run the text based installer...i cannot get yaboot to load...I've messed with open firmware and typed in exactly what the installer said to and it still won't workcan anyone help me...i've been working on this for awhile nowthanks... -- Eric Wickstrom
Re: install beta1-iso report
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > There is a last test that I need to do, I remember in the 8.0, when we create > the partitions, diskdrak allow to create the / partition before the > bootstrap, but yaboot need the bootstrap is before on the disk. This is a > problem for newbie because all the install seem correct but there are no > warning and after the install you can't boot linux. > I will test this tomorrow because it is later and this need I crash my linux > partition, but think about that. > the installer should be creating the bootstrap before you ever see the partitions in diskdrake, on a NewWorld machine, if there isn't one already. I don't believe yaboot cares where the bootstrap is, I put it first as a matter of convenience, to make sure it gets created. The only limitation I know is on some early iMacs, the kernel, and most likely the bootstrap, need to be under the 6GB limit. On my revB, I use a shared /boot for several installs to get around this problem. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Beta1 report
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > Stew, I think we have a lot of works to best config for all machintosh, when > the first new titanium appear at my works and I see the 8.0 doesn't works, I > launched MacOs on mine and the new, I saw on mine ATY-rev3 and on the second > ATY-rev6, this two card are very different, one Mach64 against a Radeon, it > is not the same processor, not only a new revision. > Yep, the Apple's are definitely a moving target. I guess I'll never get bored ;^) We do have support for both video adapters in the latest kernels/XFree. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Beta1 report
Hi Stew, > > When it was time to Configure X, I chose XFree4. The installer didn't > > ask to test the configuration setting, so I answered "No" to the question > > about automatically starting X. > > I intentionally suppressed the test, as I found on some machines it never > comes back from the test, leaving you stuck in the installer. Someone > else mentioned the lack of it too. Do you think I should turn it back on? I guess I was mostly reacting to the step being missing, since I'm so used to seeing it in the PC version. Will the same people who get stuck in the installer get stuck in runlevel 5? > > The fonts on the KDE desktop look a bit distorted. It appears that the > > video (1024) is being scaled to fit this machine's wide screen (1152). > > But maybe the installer had a 1152x768 setting that I didn't notice > > because of the garbled display. > > Yes, there should have been an offering like this: > > Apple; TiPowerBook 1152x768; 0; 30.0-100.0; 50.0-160.0 > > You might get X working correctly from xfdrak of manually using those > settings in XFConfig-4, > > If you still have the shift, you can play with "fbset -left some_number" Thanks, it's now fixed by editing the text file. > Phil, I'd be curious of a couple of things: > > I've seen conflicting information as to whether the option is > > video=radeon or video=radeonfb > also it may need to be appended with a mode seeting, ie: > 1152x768-60, or whatever > > Then I may need to do something to convince Xpmac to run in that mode, if > it can. > > Also I'd be curious if the installed kernel, which seems to work, would > fare any better substituted for the install kernel. You could test this > by making a yaboot entry, similar to the ones on the CD, on your hard > drive, and using your live kernel instead of the one on the CD. It would > be sweet if we could get graphical install running properly on the TiBook. I'll make some time tonight to try your suggestions. Thank you for the help. Bye, Phil
Re: 8.2 beta (who's the KDE activist around here?)
On Wed Feb 20, 2002 at 05:26:50PM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote: > > So this beta is based on beta2/x86 then? Because gnome works just > > peachy in beta1... although I think beta2 had a lot more issues than > > beta1. > > Roughly - I started putting together the beta about the time beta2 came > out, and stopped updating package briefly until I got a functioning beta > in place. (at least in respect to booting the system and bringing up KDE, > I didn;t test everything). Ahhh... I see. Well, Stew, I'm gonna tell you... if you haven't tested GNOME first, don't bother... KDE ain't *that* important... /me runs and ducks [...] > > Installing oaf from cooker fixes this... now when I login again, > > Nautilus is drawing my desktop, but the icons don't show up, they just > > look like sheets of paper (every one of them). > > > > That's it for now... =) > > OK - thanks for the research. Looks like I need to make room for more > packages, as the 2 disks are about full now, and I didn't include > kernel22. Hmmm... how much spaces does KDE take? I'm sure you can fit GNOME and kernel22 in there after you remove the bloat... =) (I don't really hate KDE... I just like to pick on it occassionally) -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk uptime: 28 days 21 hours 50 minutes. msg01715/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trying to use a 8500
Le 2002.02.20 18:30, Miguel Beccari a écrit : > I see I have scsi module for OldWorld machines but if I select it insmod > fails (should I write some particular option ???). I don't know if it is the same on the 8500 but on the 4400, the internal scsi bus is mesh and I've read somewhere (in the kernel's doc ?) that the external bus is mac53c94. Mesh works out of the box for me, with the Mdk8.0 2.4.4-6 kernel Bertrand Dekoninck
Re: Beta1 report
> video=radeon or video=radeonfb > also it may need to be appended with a mode seeting, ie: > 1152x768-60, or whatever > > Then I may need to do something to convince Xpmac to run in that mode, if > it can. > > Also I'd be curious if the installed kernel, which seems to work, would > fare any better substituted for the install kernel. You could test this > by making a yaboot entry, similar to the ones on the CD, on your hard > drive, and using your live kernel instead of the one on the CD. It would > be sweet if we could get graphical install running properly on the TiBook. > > Thanks > Stew Benedict Stew, I think we have a lot of works to best config for all machintosh, when the first new titanium appear at my works and I see the 8.0 doesn't works, I launched MacOs on mine and the new, I saw on mine ATY-rev3 and on the second ATY-rev6, this two card are very different, one Mach64 against a Radeon, it is not the same processor, not only a new revision. -- Olivier Thauvin-CNRS Service Aeronomie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Téléphone: 01 64 47 43 60 à Verrières (lundi,mercredi et vendredi) 01 44 27 47 59 à Jussieu (Mardi et Jeudi) Service d'Aéronomie Réduit de Verrieres - BP 3 Route des Gatines 91371 Verrieres le Buisson Cedex France Fax:33 (0)1 69 20 29 99
Re: install beta1-iso report
Le Jeudi 21 Février 2002 01:29, Stew Benedict a écrit : > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > > I have do this install on a G4 powerbook with 256 Mo RAM with only the > > 1st CDrom, the 2nd not already mirror but in way. > > > > 1) During install I choose to install samba in Network server, It want to > > install it it ask me to install xinetd. Are you sure samba need xinetd ? > > But Proftpd does not need xinetd, I checked it before. > > Not sure, I suppose it does if the requires are calling for it. That > isn't really a PPC specific issue, but package related. Perhaps, I haven't see this problem on x86 install. > > > 2) Keyboard always in english during the install > > You have to do an expert install to get to keyboard selection, I believe. I have do an expert install, but I have not looking for an another keyboard in the listbox. I will retest tomorrow. > > > 3) I have use only the first Cd, when I want setup a printer in the box > > name "Résumé", it cannot install the foomatic package: error is "not > > found" > > My error - foomatic was not on the ISO's. I'm having a hard time picking > what programs to be left out, as there are easily 3CDs worth. I've added > foomatic to the list to be included. > > > 4) During the yaboot setup, why is it imossible to choose another label > > as darwin, macos or macosx ? > > You should be able to edit any label, no? Those are are just base > selections/recommendations. I have think it was a recommendation, but I want edit, I can't delete the word with , same thing, I will retest tomorow. > > > 5) Xfree setup, I have select Tipoxerbook as screen but there the > > 1152x768 resolution, this is the normal resolution for this machine. We > > can only select colors in 16 bits, is it normal ? > > Sounds like the VideoRam is not being detected to allow full depth. > There is a way to get to the other resolutions, at least in expert > install, but I don't remember the steps now off the top of my head. I will search. > > > All after is after the reboot > > > > 6) Some kernel module has unresolv symbols > > Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in > > /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/fdomain.o.gz > > Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in > > /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/pcmcia/fd > > omain_cs.o.gz > > Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in > > /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/video/tridentf > > b.o.gz > > Known - bad modules. Shouldn't harm anything unless you own that > hardware, and should only be seen at first boot. > > > 7) smb startup failed > > Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smbd: smbd: error while loading shared libraries: > > libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No > > such file or directory > > Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smb: smbd startup failed > > Feb 21 00:46:33 orion nmbd: nmbd: error while loading shared libraries: > > libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No > > such file or directory > > Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smb: nmbd startup failed > > > > 7) amd startup failed > > Feb 21 00:46:27 orion amd: /usr/sbin/amd: error while loading shared > > libraries: libamu.so.2: cannot open shared object > > file: No such file or directory > > Feb 21 00:46:27 orion amd: amd startup failed > > Looks like some more missing libs on the CD's. > > [stew@powerbook-cooker bin]$ rpm -qf /lib/libacl.so.1 > libacl1-1.1.3-1mdk > > [stew@powerbook-cooker bin]$ urpmf libamu.so.2 > libamu2:/usr/lib/libamu.so.2 > > Added to the list, as well as foomatic. > > > 8) I have some problem with the keyboard, I have choose the default > > (french) and the keymap load is fr-latin1. This keymaps is not good for a > > mac. > > See Sylvain's document on keymapping I posted yesterday. It is possible to > switch back to Mac keymaps, which correspond more closely to the printed > keys on a French keyboard. > > > That's all for this evening ! > > Thanks for the feedback. > > Stew Benedict There is a last test that I need to do, I remember in the 8.0, when we create the partitions, diskdrak allow to create the / partition before the bootstrap, but yaboot need the bootstrap is before on the disk. This is a problem for newbie because all the install seem correct but there are no warning and after the install you can't boot linux. I will test this tomorrow because it is later and this need I crash my linux partition, but think about that. Thank's. -- Olivier Thauvin-CNRS Service Aeronomie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Téléphone: 01 64 47 43 60 à Verrières (lundi,mercredi et vendredi) 01 44 27 47 59 à Jussieu (Mardi et Jeudi) Service d'Aéronomie Réduit de Verrieres - BP 3 Route des Gatines 91371 Verrieres le Buisson Cedex France Fax:33 (0)1 69 20 29 99
Re: 8.2 beta (who's the KDE activist around here?)
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Vincent Danen wrote: > > Ahhh... I see. Well, Stew, I'm gonna tell you... if you haven't > tested GNOME first, don't bother... KDE ain't *that* important... > > /me runs and ducks > :^) > Hmmm... how much spaces does KDE take? I'm sure you can fit GNOME > and kernel22 in there after you remove the bloat... =) > > (I don't really hate KDE... I just like to pick on it occassionally) > hehe - I think I'd be strung up if I did that ;^) Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: install beta1-iso report
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > I have do this install on a G4 powerbook with 256 Mo RAM with only the 1st > CDrom, the 2nd not already mirror but in way. > > 1) During install I choose to install samba in Network server, It want to > install it it ask me to install xinetd. Are you sure samba need xinetd ? > But Proftpd does not need xinetd, I checked it before. > Not sure, I suppose it does if the requires are calling for it. That isn't really a PPC specific issue, but package related. > 2) Keyboard always in english during the install > You have to do an expert install to get to keyboard selection, I believe. > 3) I have use only the first Cd, when I want setup a printer in the box name > "Résumé", it cannot install the foomatic package: error is "not found" > My error - foomatic was not on the ISO's. I'm having a hard time picking what programs to be left out, as there are easily 3CDs worth. I've added foomatic to the list to be included. > 4) During the yaboot setup, why is it imossible to choose another label as > darwin, macos or macosx ? > You should be able to edit any label, no? Those are are just base selections/recommendations. > 5) Xfree setup, I have select Tipoxerbook as screen but there the 1152x768 > resolution, this is the normal resolution for this machine. We can only > select colors in 16 bits, is it normal ? > Sounds like the VideoRam is not being detected to allow full depth. There is a way to get to the other resolutions, at least in expert install, but I don't remember the steps now off the top of my head. > All after is after the reboot > > 6) Some kernel module has unresolv symbols > Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in > /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/fdomain.o.gz > Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in > /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/pcmcia/fd > omain_cs.o.gz > Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in > /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/video/tridentf > b.o.gz > Known - bad modules. Shouldn't harm anything unless you own that hardware, and should only be seen at first boot. > 7) smb startup failed > Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smbd: smbd: error while loading shared libraries: > libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No > such file or directory > Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smb: smbd startup failed > Feb 21 00:46:33 orion nmbd: nmbd: error while loading shared libraries: > libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No > such file or directory > Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smb: nmbd startup failed > > 7) amd startup failed > Feb 21 00:46:27 orion amd: /usr/sbin/amd: error while loading shared > libraries: libamu.so.2: cannot open shared object > file: No such file or directory > Feb 21 00:46:27 orion amd: amd startup failed > Looks like some more missing libs on the CD's. [stew@powerbook-cooker bin]$ rpm -qf /lib/libacl.so.1 libacl1-1.1.3-1mdk [stew@powerbook-cooker bin]$ urpmf libamu.so.2 libamu2:/usr/lib/libamu.so.2 Added to the list, as well as foomatic. > 8) I have some problem with the keyboard, I have choose the default (french) > and the keymap load is fr-latin1. This keymaps is not good for a mac. > > See Sylvain's document on keymapping I posted yesterday. It is possible to switch back to Mac keymaps, which correspond more closely to the printed keys on a French keyboard. > That's all for this evening ! > Thanks for the feedback. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Beta1 report
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Phil Lavigna wrote: > > Hi, > > Just completed an Expert installation with Beta1 CD1 on a PowerBook G4 > 550MHz (Radeon); here's my report: > > After booting from the Installation CD, I tried various boot options > (radeon, riva, tdfx, aty), but DrakX was always split in half wrapped around > the monitor in a weird gold color. I didn't want to use the text-based > install, but was able to complete a graphical installation even with the > funky display. > Hey I tried ;^) > When it was time to Configure X, I chose XFree4. The installer didn't ask > to test the configuration setting, so I answered "No" to the question about > automatically starting X. > I intentionally suppressed the test, as I found on some machines it never comes back from the test, leaving you stuck in the installer. Someone else mentioned the lack of it too. Do you think I should turn it back on? > The installation then completed normally, and Linux booted up without any > problems or errors. I was happily surprised that after typing "startx", KDE > started up nicely : ) > WooHoo! that's good news. > The display of the desktop hangs about 1" off the right side of the > monitor. The left side of the screen has approx. 1" of black space running > down the depth of the display, and the right side of the desktop is missing > approx. 1" that is being cut off of the right edge. > > The fonts on the KDE desktop look a bit distorted. It appears that the > video (1024) is being scaled to fit this machine's wide screen (1152). But > maybe the installer had a 1152x768 setting that I didn't notice because of > the garbled display. > Yes, there should have been an offering like this: Apple; TiPowerBook 1152x768; 0; 30.0-100.0; 50.0-160.0 You might get X working correctly from xfdrak of manually using those settings in XFConfig-4, If you still have the shift, you can play with "fbset -left some_number" > Other than the video problems, the beta looks quite nice so far. KDE's > startup sound was nice and clear while entering the desktop (even though a > message was displayed that says "Error while initializing the sound driver: > device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device or resource busy) > The sound server will continue, using the null output device)." > Yep - x86 has been fighting the same prob - seems to be something to do with the new menu, which seems to be fixed now on x86, so hopefully that will trickle over to PPC too. > Please let me know if you need any more info. > Phil, I'd be curious of a couple of things: I've seen conflicting information as to whether the option is video=radeon or video=radeonfb also it may need to be appended with a mode seeting, ie: 1152x768-60, or whatever Then I may need to do something to convince Xpmac to run in that mode, if it can. Also I'd be curious if the installed kernel, which seems to work, would fare any better substituted for the install kernel. You could test this by making a yaboot entry, similar to the ones on the CD, on your hard drive, and using your live kernel instead of the one on the CD. It would be sweet if we could get graphical install running properly on the TiBook. Thanks Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Trying to use a 8500
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Miguel Beccari wrote: > > > > > Not booting from the CD is normal on OldWorld - that's why BootX is > > provided. I don't have access to any 8500's but I can tell you what > > modules are used on the 7600: > > > > I am old with linux but on x86 only (lilo, grub, award bios etc), so > I have to understand some things... > > for example: should I leave a Mac (with the MacOS) partition to have BottX > working ? > Yes, to use BootX, you'll need a minimal MacOS install. There are other ways of booting, (quik for one), but I haven't explored them. > > SCSI: mesh > > Ethernet: mace > > > > mac53c94 is also used for SCSI on some older machines. I doubt the > > integrated NIC is 3com, but I suppose anything is possible. > > > > Theese are useful informations. > > The last question is: if I put the hybrid burned ppc-8.2 cdrom on my linux > box (x86) i can mount and read with no problems all; but if I put the cdrom > in the old sony (on the Mac) the system say the cd have to be formatted. > I don't know. I can read it on my machines in MacOS. As you said, it's a hybrid iso9660/hfs disc, so it should be readable in MacOS. How did you get the BootX stuff off of it? Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Beta ISO's
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 05:02:36PM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote: > I'll try - the names DID agree when I put them up there. Seems they got > changed somewhere along the line. I thought that might be the case after I sent the email. Well thanks for getting the ISO's up anyway. I'm heading the the olympics tomorrow so I'll try them when I get back on Monday. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
install beta1-iso report
I have do this install on a G4 powerbook with 256 Mo RAM with only the 1st CDrom, the 2nd not already mirror but in way. 1) During install I choose to install samba in Network server, It want to install it it ask me to install xinetd. Are you sure samba need xinetd ? But Proftpd does not need xinetd, I checked it before. 2) Keyboard always in english during the install 3) I have use only the first Cd, when I want setup a printer in the box name "Résumé", it cannot install the foomatic package: error is "not found" 4) During the yaboot setup, why is it imossible to choose another label as darwin, macos or macosx ? 5) Xfree setup, I have select Tipoxerbook as screen but there the 1152x768 resolution, this is the normal resolution for this machine. We can only select colors in 16 bits, is it normal ? All after is after the reboot 6) Some kernel module has unresolv symbols Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/fdomain.o.gz Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/pcmcia/fd omain_cs.o.gz Feb 21 00:45:57 orion depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.17-17mdk/kernel/drivers/video/tridentf b.o.gz 7) smb startup failed Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smbd: smbd: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smb: smbd startup failed Feb 21 00:46:33 orion nmbd: nmbd: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Feb 21 00:46:33 orion smb: nmbd startup failed 7) amd startup failed Feb 21 00:46:27 orion amd: /usr/sbin/amd: error while loading shared libraries: libamu.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Feb 21 00:46:27 orion amd: amd startup failed 8) I have some problem with the keyboard, I have choose the default (french) and the keymap load is fr-latin1. This keymaps is not good for a mac. That's all for this evening ! -- Olivier Thauvin-CNRS Service Aeronomie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Téléphone: 01 64 47 43 60 à Verrières (lundi,mercredi et vendredi) 01 44 27 47 59 à Jussieu (Mardi et Jeudi) Service d'Aéronomie Réduit de Verrieres - BP 3 Route des Gatines 91371 Verrieres le Buisson Cedex France Fax:33 (0)1 69 20 29 99
Beta1 report
Hi, Just completed an Expert installation with Beta1 CD1 on a PowerBook G4 550MHz (Radeon); here's my report: After booting from the Installation CD, I tried various boot options (radeon, riva, tdfx, aty), but DrakX was always split in half wrapped around the monitor in a weird gold color. I didn't want to use the text-based install, but was able to complete a graphical installation even with the funky display. When it was time to Configure X, I chose XFree4. The installer didn't ask to test the configuration setting, so I answered "No" to the question about automatically starting X. The installation then completed normally, and Linux booted up without any problems or errors. I was happily surprised that after typing "startx", KDE started up nicely : ) The display of the desktop hangs about 1" off the right side of the monitor. The left side of the screen has approx. 1" of black space running down the depth of the display, and the right side of the desktop is missing approx. 1" that is being cut off of the right edge. The fonts on the KDE desktop look a bit distorted. It appears that the video (1024) is being scaled to fit this machine's wide screen (1152). But maybe the installer had a 1152x768 setting that I didn't notice because of the garbled display. Other than the video problems, the beta looks quite nice so far. KDE's startup sound was nice and clear while entering the desktop (even though a message was displayed that says "Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device or resource busy) The sound server will continue, using the null output device)." Please let me know if you need any more info. Bye, Phil
Re: Trying to use a 8500
> > Not booting from the CD is normal on OldWorld - that's why BootX is > provided. I don't have access to any 8500's but I can tell you what > modules are used on the 7600: > I am old with linux but on x86 only (lilo, grub, award bios etc), so I have to understand some things... for example: should I leave a Mac (with the MacOS) partition to have BottX working ? > SCSI: mesh > Ethernet: mace > > mac53c94 is also used for SCSI on some older machines. I doubt the > integrated NIC is 3com, but I suppose anything is possible. > Theese are useful informations. The last question is: if I put the hybrid burned ppc-8.2 cdrom on my linux box (x86) i can mount and read with no problems all; but if I put the cdrom in the old sony (on the Mac) the system say the cd have to be formatted. Why ? Miguel Beccari
Re: XFree86-4.2.0-6mdk on Mach64
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, cjw wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This version of the XFree86 package contains the gatos ati.2 drivers, but
> since my patch for PowerMacs was apparently never applied to the GATOS
> source, this X server crashes because it can't find a BIOS. Below a patch
> for this problem.
>
>
> Christiaan
>
>
> --- XFree86-4.2.0/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/atixv.c.bak Wed
>Feb 6 06:15:36 2002
> +++ XFree86-4.2.0/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/atixv.c Wed Feb 20
>14:45:34 2002
> @@ -1073,6 +1073,8 @@
>
> if(pATI->VBIOS==NULL){
> xf86DrvMsg(pScrn->scrnIndex, X_INFO, "Cannot access BIOS:
>info->VBIOS==NULL.\n");
> +pPriv->MM_TABLE_valid = FALSE;
> +return;
> }
>
> xf86DrvMsg(pScrn->scrnIndex, X_INFO, "0x%02x 0x%02x\n", pATI->VBIOS[0],
>
>
Thanks much! I'll see if we can get it added in. (I've got 2 Mach64's
here).
Stew Benedict
--
MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Beta ISO's
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Ben Reser wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 07:34:59PM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote: > > > > I don't know if they've hit the mirrors yet, but beta ISO's of 8.2-PPC > > should be out there soon. Feedback is welcome. > > Pretty pretty please in the future when you include md5sums please have > the filenames match the iso names so that md5sums -c works. > > [root@stream ppc]# cat md5sums.8.2.ppc > 8caf1bb13a3f21b8db72ef1b57f1a032 1-8.2Beta1-PPC.iso > 98c0685eaefa7d0277aa96020cee0e24 2-8.2Beta1-PPC.iso > > [root@stream ppc]# ls -l *beta1* > -rw-r--r--1 rsyncrsync681007104 Feb 19 16:12 > MandrakeLinux-8.2beta1-CD1.ppc.iso > -rw-r--r--1 rsyncrsync677281792 Feb 19 16:14 > MandrakeLinux-8.2beta1-CD2.ppc.iso > I'll try - the names DID agree when I put them up there. Seems they got changed somewhere along the line. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Trying to use a 8500
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Miguel Beccari wrote: > I have a 250Mhz 8500 series powerPC. > It as got very old 2x cdrom (with caddy) > It has got no floppy. > It has got a build in ehternet, and a 3com (I think). > > I am unable to boot from cdrom. > No way, no way, no way to boot :( > > So I copied the BootX on the desktop and launched the BootX app. > > The installer begins and I have to select from a cdrom installation or a > ftp, hard disk etc etc. > > no modules are right for my old cdrom, my built in ethernet and so on... > Not booting from the CD is normal on OldWorld - that's why BootX is provided. I don't have access to any 8500's but I can tell you what modules are used on the 7600: SCSI: mesh Ethernet: mace mac53c94 is also used for SCSI on some older machines. I doubt the integrated NIC is 3com, but I suppose anything is possible. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta (who's the KDE activist around here?)
On Wed Feb 20, 2002 at 07:47:56AM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote:
> > When using gdm (haven't tested with others), and you select Gnome for
> > your session, it loads KDE. This happens under both ppc (beta1) and
> > x86 (beta2).
>
> Denis just told me about gnome not functioning on x86. I guess we inherit
> that too.
So this beta is based on beta2/x86 then? Because gnome works just
peachy in beta1... although I think beta2 had a lot more issues than
beta1.
> > Hmmm... after testing on 8.2/ppc, I can select windowmaker and
> > blackbox and they load fine. Looking at my .xsession-errors file I
> > see this:
> >
> > /usr/bin/gnome-session: error while loading shared libraries:
> > libgnomecanvaspixbuf.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such
> > file or directory.
> >
> > Doing urpmf on the file on my 8.1 box shows it belongs to
> > gdk-pixbuf-gnomecanvas (urpmf on the 8.2/ppc box resulted in
> > nothing)... checking the CDs, this file doesn't exist.
> >
> > Checking on the 8.2/x86 beta2 install, it's called
> > libgdk-pixbuf-gnomecanvas1 now (this file doesn't exist on the PPC CDs
> > either).
>
> OK, I'll make sure to add this to CD1 list. If you add it from the cooker
> tree does it fix the problem?
Yup. GNOME is loading right now. =)
Hmmm... sawfish sure took a while to start. I spoke too soon. GNOME
starts, but does nothing. More required packages:
From .xsession-errors:
SESSION_MANAGER=local/imac.mandrakesoft.com:/tmp/.ICE-unix/2414
Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
sawfish: error while loading shared libraries: librep.so.9: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory
Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
xscreensaver-demo: error while loading shared libraries: libcapplet.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
panel: error while loading shared libraries: libpanel_applet.so.0: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: libnautilus.so.0: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Nautilus has not been activated to display icons and gmc is not
installed. There will be no icons in GNOME desktop !!!
Ok... now I installed from cooker:
fam
libfam0
libcapplet1
libnautilus0
libpanel_applet0
librep9
libeel0
krb5-libs
eel
libsrvg1
After all of this, GNOME starts but sawfish doesn't...
.xsession-errors shows nothing, but trying to start sawfish on the
commandline shows:
error--> (file-error "No such file or directory" "rep/data/tables")
Hmmm... ok, after more digging, librep isn't being built properly
under PPC. It installs table.{so,la} into:
/usr/lib/rep/0.15.2/powerpc-mandrake-linux-gnu/rep/data
if I rename powerpc-mandrake-linux-gnu to ppc-mandrake-linux-gnu
sawfish starts.
Now if I logout then back in again, everything seems to be working.
Ack... again I spoke too soon... =) Nautilus doesn't start "due to
an unexpected error from OAF when attempting to register the file
manager view server."
Installing oaf from cooker fixes this... now when I login again,
Nautilus is drawing my desktop, but the icons don't show up, they just
look like sheets of paper (every one of them).
That's it for now... =)
In other words... there are a *lot* of dependency issues... I haven't
checked to see if these packages are on either CD...
--
MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/
"lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import"
1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD
Current Linux kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk uptime: 28 days 16 hours 5 minutes.
msg01700/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature
XFree86-4.2.0-6mdk on Mach64
Hi,
This version of the XFree86 package contains the gatos ati.2 drivers, but
since my patch for PowerMacs was apparently never applied to the GATOS
source, this X server crashes because it can't find a BIOS. Below a patch
for this problem.
Christiaan
--- XFree86-4.2.0/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/atixv.c.bakWed
Feb 6 06:15:36 2002
+++ XFree86-4.2.0/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/atixv.cWed Feb 20
+14:45:34 2002
@@ -1073,6 +1073,8 @@
if(pATI->VBIOS==NULL){
xf86DrvMsg(pScrn->scrnIndex, X_INFO, "Cannot access BIOS:
info->VBIOS==NULL.\n");
+pPriv->MM_TABLE_valid = FALSE;
+return;
}
xf86DrvMsg(pScrn->scrnIndex, X_INFO, "0x%02x 0x%02x\n", pATI->VBIOS[0],
Re: Beta ISO's
On Wed Feb 20, 2002 at 07:24:37AM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote: > > Well, I'm doing it now but I had to use the text installer... =( > > using install-aty128fb, which is what I used with 8.0, results in a > > grey screen with huge text and it kinda vibrates... not much fun. > > There have been problems with R128, even on x86 lately. I'd be curious if > "no-video" or the 2.2 kernel version works. I found "novideo" comes up OK > on my iMac, although only 8bpp, it was usable. install-novideo brings up a blue screen, I see the X cursor, but cannot move it, nor does anything further happen (waiting a few minutes still showed no installer... just a blue screen). > > That's the first observation... DrakX's text mode is kinda annoying > > when it comes to selecting mountpoints and such... should be more > > intuitive like DiskDruid or something. I couldn't figure out how to > > change the partition type (it picked Linux native, and that's how it > > stayed although I would have liked to see if any of the journaling > > f/s's are in there). > > Yes, the text mode is less than ideal, but Pixel is really the guru there, > I just try to make it all work on PPC. I believe you need to switch to > expert/advanced mode in diskdrake to see the journalled filesystems. > (trying to remember if this is even an option in text mode). Did you > notice the odd text messages floating around the screen anymore like in > 8.0? I always install with expert... the problem is I don't know how to pull up a pulldown menu of the available selections (same problem when trying to get the ntp servers)... I'm sure there is a way to do it, but it's not written on the screen nor is there any indication of what it might be... tried TAB, SPACE, a few others... nothing. It might be as simple as having something on the menu indicate what keys are required to scroll through the list. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk uptime: 28 days 15 hours 46 minutes. msg01698/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trying to use a 8500
Miguel Beccari wrote: > > no modules are right for my old cdrom, my built in ethernet and so on... > I see I have scsi module for OldWorld machines but if I select it insmod fails (should I write some particular option ???). The same about ethernet Miguel Beccari
Trying to use a 8500
I have a 250Mhz 8500 series powerPC. It as got very old 2x cdrom (with caddy) It has got no floppy. It has got a build in ehternet, and a 3com (I think). I am unable to boot from cdrom. No way, no way, no way to boot :( So I copied the BootX on the desktop and launched the BootX app. The installer begins and I have to select from a cdrom installation or a ftp, hard disk etc etc. no modules are right for my old cdrom, my built in ethernet and so on... How can I procede ? Miguel Beccari
Re: Beta ISO's
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 07:34:59PM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote: > > I don't know if they've hit the mirrors yet, but beta ISO's of 8.2-PPC > should be out there soon. Feedback is welcome. Pretty pretty please in the future when you include md5sums please have the filenames match the iso names so that md5sums -c works. [root@stream ppc]# cat md5sums.8.2.ppc 8caf1bb13a3f21b8db72ef1b57f1a032 1-8.2Beta1-PPC.iso 98c0685eaefa7d0277aa96020cee0e24 2-8.2Beta1-PPC.iso [root@stream ppc]# ls -l *beta1* -rw-r--r--1 rsyncrsync681007104 Feb 19 16:12 MandrakeLinux-8.2beta1-CD1.ppc.iso -rw-r--r--1 rsyncrsync677281792 Feb 19 16:14 MandrakeLinux-8.2beta1-CD2.ppc.iso -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: Beta ISO's
Le Mercredi 20 Février 2002 01:34, vous avez écrit : > I don't know if they've hit the mirrors yet, but beta ISO's of 8.2-PPC > should be out there soon. Feedback is welcome. > > Stew Benedict I have doing a network install by create a cd from cooker without the RPMS directories, I will test the CD beta. But I have already a lot of bug to report. I will test to see if there are some correction this evening. Thanks. -- Olivier Thauvin-CNRS Service Aeronomie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Téléphone: 01 64 47 43 60 à Verrières (lundi,mercredi et vendredi) 01 44 27 47 59 à Jussieu (Mardi et Jeudi) Service d'Aéronomie Réduit de Verrieres - BP 3 Route des Gatines 91371 Verrieres le Buisson Cedex France Fax:33 (0)1 69 20 29 99
