Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread Stew Benedict

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Robert Shade wrote:

  I am having trouble making the pppoe connection at install time. it
  goes into hard lock as soon as i press ok... i have tried with both
  ethernet and adsl enabled as well as just adsl.
 
 Yeah I had this happen with my PowerBook. (Stew:  Could this possibly turn out 
 to be a laptop specific problem?   All: Anyone else using a pppoe connection 
 with a laptop?)  What I did is just skipped it and set it up when I booted.
 

I suspect it's an issue with the usb probing.  Hopefully RC1 will behave
better, if you were able to do it in the running system.


Stew Benedict

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Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread entropy
Thanks for the reply...

I have another problem... the bootloader, won't load. i put setenv 
boot-device hd:11,\\:tbxi into the openfirmware. on reboot, it shows a 
question mark while looking for a bootdrive then loads os x... the 
bootstrap partition is there.

thanks for the help.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 12:02 PM, Robert Shade wrote:

I am having trouble making the pppoe connection at install time. it
goes into hard lock as soon as i press ok... i have tried with both
ethernet and adsl enabled as well as just adsl.
Yeah I had this happen with my PowerBook. (Stew:  Could this possibly 
turn out
to be a laptop specific problem?   All: Anyone else using a pppoe 
connection
with a laptop?)  What I did is just skipped it and set it up when I 
booted.

i am also unsure which usb driver to choose. i am on a ibook 2001
Quoting Stew from an earlier email:

Shouldn't need to select anything - usb is built in.
If the installer forces you to, pick keybdev
rob






Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread entropy
answering my own question... i think the problem was i had 8MB of free 
space between the bootstrap and root mount loaded and it works 
but, the adsl is not

my modem connects through the ethernet port of the ibook via PPPoE.

going through drakconnect, i use the wizard, and select only adsl (is 
this right?) and put in my details... the same one's that work fine in 
OS X. it tries to connect, after 15seconds or so fails. it sends some 
data upstream and i can see it on the net monitor as well as the data 
led on the modem. (which had remained silent until then)

any idea's? what should i be checking? and what about the question 
does the network need to be restarted? can this make a difference?

thanks for your patience, not exactly a guru here.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:19 PM, entropy wrote:

Thanks for the reply...

I have another problem... the bootloader, won't load. i put setenv 
boot-device hd:11,\\:tbxi into the openfirmware. on reboot, it shows a 
question mark while looking for a bootdrive then loads os x... the 
bootstrap partition is there.

thanks for the help.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 12:02 PM, Robert Shade wrote:

I am having trouble making the pppoe connection at install time. it
goes into hard lock as soon as i press ok... i have tried with both
ethernet and adsl enabled as well as just adsl.
Yeah I had this happen with my PowerBook. (Stew:  Could this possibly 
turn out
to be a laptop specific problem?   All: Anyone else using a pppoe 
connection
with a laptop?)  What I did is just skipped it and set it up when I 
booted.

i am also unsure which usb driver to choose. i am on a ibook 2001
Quoting Stew from an earlier email:

Shouldn't need to select anything - usb is built in.
If the installer forces you to, pick keybdev
rob








Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread Robert Shade
 going through drakconnect, i use the wizard, and select only adsl (is
 this right?) and put in my details... the same one's that work fine in
 OS X. it tries to connect, after 15seconds or so fails. it sends some
 data upstream and i can see it on the net monitor as well as the data
 led on the modem. (which had remained silent until then)

 any idea's? what should i be checking? and what about the question
 does the network need to be restarted? can this make a difference?

Sorry, forgot one problem I had when I set it up the first time.   The PPPD 
value in /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf was set to NOTFOUND.  Edit that file as root and 
change it to /usr/sbin/pppd.  

The problem is that rpppoe is dialing your connection (thus the lights), but 
the thing that actually makes it a network interface (pppd) is not starting.

rob



Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread Robert Shade
 does the network need to be restarted? can this make a difference?

Yes it does.  If it ever asks you to do this (unless you actually have a good 
connection and are downloading something) do it.  There are some network 
configuration changes that can only be applied by restarting the network.

rob



Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread Stew Benedict

On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, entropy wrote:

 answering my own question... i think the problem was i had 8MB of free 
 space between the bootstrap and root mount loaded and it works 
 but, the adsl is not
 

Shouldn't have mattered as long as all the partition numbers were
referenced correctly.  Glad you got it going though.

 my modem connects through the ethernet port of the ibook via PPPoE.
 
 going through drakconnect, i use the wizard, and select only adsl (is 
 this right?) and put in my details... the same one's that work fine in 

Depends on your provider.  Mine is ADSL, but I use a router to the modem,
not direct via USB (don't even think there's a USB port on my new one)

 OS X. it tries to connect, after 15seconds or so fails. it sends some 
 data upstream and i can see it on the net monitor as well as the data 
 led on the modem. (which had remained silent until then)
 
 any idea's? what should i be checking? and what about the question 
 does the network need to be restarted? can this make a difference?
 
 thanks for your patience, not exactly a guru here.
 

Any ideas anyone?  I'm not setup to be able to try and duplicate this.

Stew Benedict

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Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread vgeloven
Citeren entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thanks for the reply...
 
 I have another problem... the bootloader, won't load. i put 
setenv 
 boot-device hd:11,\\:tbxi into the openfirmware. on reboot, it 
shows a 
 question mark while looking for a bootdrive then loads os x... 
the 
 bootstrap partition is there.
 
 thanks for the help.

Same problem for me. In the bootloader dialog in the installer I 
selected 'Done' and the dialog went away, should I have 
selected 'OK' instead?

I also tried
  setenv boot-devive /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10,\\:txbi
which resulted in the same.

Did you try
  boot hd:11,\\:txbi
in open firmware? When I did it it said
  can't OPEN hd:11,\\:txbi

So is this the result of selecting 'Done' in stead of 'OK'?

Thanks,

Sander
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Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread Robert Shade
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:21 am, entropy wrote:
 i'm not sure i have the line you're talking about in my conf file i
 defintetly don't have anything that says NOTFOUND

 there are a couple of lines near the end that are for pppd extra
 arguments and pppoe extra arguments, but i don't think that was what
 you were referring to.

 should i add it myself? is it something like pppd=/usr/sbin/pppd  ?

Hmm.. looking at my config it's not there anymore either.  I switch network 
configurations alot, so it must have been taken out by the config tools (and 
not really needed).

Try this as root:

adsl-stop
adsl-connect

Post the output of adsl-connect.  It shows a fairly verbose log of what it is 
trying to do.  It might not release the terminal when it's done (I know it 
doesn't when it actually connects) so you might have to do a ctl-c to get out 
of it.

rob



Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread entropy
i didn't even get to see that menu when installing (the install that 
worked, that is) though stew just said it shouldn't matter, i'll pass 
along, what i changed, and what worked.

i had a space of about 8mb between the bootstrap and my root. removing 
that space, so it was sequential made everything automatic, and 
flawless.

it probably doesn't make a difference, but worth a shot, i guess

entropy

On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 12:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Citeren entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thanks for the reply...

I have another problem... the bootloader, won't load. i put
setenv
boot-device hd:11,\\:tbxi into the openfirmware. on reboot, it
shows a
question mark while looking for a bootdrive then loads os x...
the
bootstrap partition is there.

thanks for the help.
Same problem for me. In the bootloader dialog in the installer I
selected 'Done' and the dialog went away, should I have
selected 'OK' instead?
I also tried
  setenv boot-devive /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10,\\:txbi
which resulted in the same.
Did you try
  boot hd:11,\\:txbi
in open firmware? When I did it it said
  can't OPEN hd:11,\\:txbi
So is this the result of selecting 'Done' in stead of 'OK'?

Thanks,

Sander
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Voor maar 34 euro per maand. Bestel nu op www.zonnet.nl/breedband
Tijdelijk gratis modem en geen aansluitkosten!





Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread entropy
i get a repeating
execvp: no such file or directory
tried to find out more, but the log only seemed to say the adsl 
connection timed out... so much for being verbose.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 11:33 PM, Robert Shade wrote:

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:21 am, entropy wrote:
i'm not sure i have the line you're talking about in my conf file 
i
defintetly don't have anything that says NOTFOUND

there are a couple of lines near the end that are for pppd extra
arguments and pppoe extra arguments, but i don't think that was what
you were referring to.
should i add it myself? is it something like pppd=/usr/sbin/pppd  
?
Hmm.. looking at my config it's not there anymore either.  I switch 
network
configurations alot, so it must have been taken out by the config 
tools (and
not really needed).

Try this as root:

adsl-stop
adsl-connect
Post the output of adsl-connect.  It shows a fairly verbose log of 
what it is
trying to do.  It might not release the terminal when it's done (I 
know it
doesn't when it actually connects) so you might have to do a ctl-c to 
get out
of it.

rob






Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread Robert Shade
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:58 am, entropy wrote:
 i get a repeating
 execvp: no such file or directory

Yeah that's what I got when the PPPD entry was wrong.  Are you sure that there 
is no PPPD= line in /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf?

If there isn't then you could try putting one in there, or wait for RC1.  I 
had a lot of problems with the drak* tools that came with beta 2.

rob



Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread entropy
i just dumred pppd=/usr/sbin/pppd into the pppoe.conf  and everything 
is sweet!

i was wondering, should i be doing to the kernal? i want hfsplus 
support, and i'm a little confused about what exactly is going on 
there. all the references i checked in google are really old. the 
binary of hfs+ util is 9 months old. is the cvs reasonably stable?
the real question
how do other people deal with hfs-plus?

oh, and which kernal do you reconmend?

On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 12:09 AM, Robert Shade wrote:

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:58 am, entropy wrote:
i get a repeating
execvp: no such file or directory
Yeah that's what I got when the PPPD entry was wrong.  Are you sure 
that there
is no PPPD= line in /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf?

If there isn't then you could try putting one in there, or wait for 
RC1.  I
had a lot of problems with the drak* tools that came with beta 2.

rob






Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-05 Thread Robert Shade
i just dumred pppd=/usr/sbin/pppd into the pppoe.conf  and everything 
is sweet!
Great!

i was wondering, should i be doing to the kernal? i want hfsplus 
support, and i'm a little confused about what exactly is going on there. 
all the references i checked in google are really old. the binary of 
hfs+ util is 9 months old. is the cvs reasonably stable?
the real question
how do other people deal with hfs-plus?
HFS+ support is still in the early stages.  The hfsplusutils package will give 
you basic read-only access to copy files from HFS+ to a mounted filesystem.  The 
downside to them is you can't actually mount the HFS+ partition.  You have to 
deal with some strage command line utilities.

The only way I know of actually mounting a HFS+ partition is a project on 
sourceforge (i forget the link).  It's an actual kernel module that allows you 
to mount HFS+ partitions read only.  Coincidentally, last night I made a build 
(rpm) of the benh kernel with the patch (they don't have binaries) from the 
project.  I was using it briefly this morning and it seemed to work ok, except 
for a few problems playing mp3s.

oh, and which kernal do you reconmend?
I personally use the benh because I have hardware that is only supported with 
that kernel.

rob




Re: pppoe on mandrake 9.1b2

2003-03-04 Thread Robert Shade
 I am having trouble making the pppoe connection at install time. it
 goes into hard lock as soon as i press ok... i have tried with both
 ethernet and adsl enabled as well as just adsl.

Yeah I had this happen with my PowerBook. (Stew:  Could this possibly turn out 
to be a laptop specific problem?   All: Anyone else using a pppoe connection 
with a laptop?)  What I did is just skipped it and set it up when I booted.

 i am also unsure which usb driver to choose. i am on a ibook 2001

Quoting Stew from an earlier email:

Shouldn't need to select anything - usb is built in.
If the installer forces you to, pick keybdev

rob