[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
FWIW we just upgraded to a similar Comcast package and it's wicked, wicked fast. Additionally, we spent this past weekend running cat6 through a handful of gigabit switches. Now, our wireless doesnt have as much weight on it and the internet bursts to 22mb down and ~3mb up. And cheap cheap cheap, even for a commercial package. If you're worried about Comcast's notoriously awful customer support, drop a line to twitter.com/comcastcares - his name is Frank - and tell him Alex from IndyHall sent you. He's your b-line to not having to deal with idiot customer support asking you to turn the router off and on again. -Alex On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Just a follow up on the internet access discussion. We went with a > Speakeasy T1 for $360/month and have not been happy. I went with a T1 > because I've been in offices approaching 50 people on a T1 and have > seen them work well. I went with Speakeasy because I've been a loyal > customer for 12 years. Turns out the "T1" Speakeasy sells isn't > actually a T1 but rather a 1.5Mbit frame relay which is a completely > different beast. The primary difference is that a frame relay just > throws away packets when it hits the upper limit. Of course 1.5 Mbits > fills up fast so how it handles congestion is a HUGE factor. I'm > pretty grumpy and am preparing my speech. > > Before I go off on Speakeasy we are researching other options. We > looked into our local cable company, Comcast, and just signed up for a > new offering they have. 16Mbits down and 2 Mbits up for $90/month. > We'll play around with this and see how it does for us and also play > around with the load balancing features of our router to see how that > works for us. I'll keep you posted how this develops. > > Jacob > > > > -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
Hello Everyone, Just a follow up on the internet access discussion. We went with a Speakeasy T1 for $360/month and have not been happy. I went with a T1 because I've been in offices approaching 50 people on a T1 and have seen them work well. I went with Speakeasy because I've been a loyal customer for 12 years. Turns out the "T1" Speakeasy sells isn't actually a T1 but rather a 1.5Mbit frame relay which is a completely different beast. The primary difference is that a frame relay just throws away packets when it hits the upper limit. Of course 1.5 Mbits fills up fast so how it handles congestion is a HUGE factor. I'm pretty grumpy and am preparing my speech. Before I go off on Speakeasy we are researching other options. We looked into our local cable company, Comcast, and just signed up for a new offering they have. 16Mbits down and 2 Mbits up for $90/month. We'll play around with this and see how it does for us and also play around with the load balancing features of our router to see how that works for us. I'll keep you posted how this develops. Jacob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
Hello Everyone, Just a follow up on the internet access discussion. We went with a Speakeasy T1 for $360/month and have not been happy. I went with a T1 because I've been in offices approaching 50 people on a T1 and have seen them work well. I went with Speakeasy because I've been a loyal customer for 12 years. Turns out the "T1" Speakeasy sells isn't actually a T1 but rather a 1.5Mbit frame relay which is a completely different beast. The primary difference is that a frame relay just throws away packets when it hits the upper limit. Of course 1.5 Mbits fills up fast so how it handles congestion is a HUGE factor. I'm pretty grumpy and am preparing my speech. Before I go off on Speakeasy we are researching other options. We looked into our local cable company, Comcast, and just signed up for a new offering they have. 16Mbits down and 2 Mbits up for $90/month. We'll play around with this and see how it does for us and also play around with the load balancing features of our router to see how that works for us. I'll keep you posted how this develops. Jacob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
Because of the market I am in, and after some competitive analysis, I determined that I need to strike some basic similarity with the regular corporate office space providers. That in my book includes a phone system and only the fulltimers get it so they can model their purchased space after their own business. That's my thinking. On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Susan Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ditto for us at the start of Office Nomads. There was no reason to > put in a phone system if no one was planning to use it. > > Recently we've gotten more and more requests for potential phone use, > and are researching options on how to make it cheap and easy. And > we're all realizing it would be great to have a couple of conference > room phones to offer up that possibility as well. Any recommendations > for how to get phone systems in that are $25/less per user would be > great! > > S > > On Mar 27, 11:53 am, Gmail User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, at CS, we, too found out that indies use their cell phones...and > > for those 2 people who wanted a dedicated line, Speakeasy provides > > static IPs to run a VOIP phone. Super simple and really cheap! > > > > T > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:46 AM, "Alex Hillman" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > wrote: > > > When it comes to systems like these...my advice is to not overplan > > > without talking to potential users. Why spend money on a system to > > > find out that your business clients prefer using their own cell > > > phones instead? We found that out as we were getting potential > > > members together and as such, we did not spend any money on phone > > > systems (with the exception of a couple of user-provided VOIP boxes). > > > > > Bottom line, research so you know what your options are, but I > > > wouldn't drop coin on it until you are confident you need it! > > > > > 2c > > > > > Alex Hillman, IndyHall > > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Lisa Thompson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > Very good points, Alex.. adding this to my list of questions for > > > vendors! > > > > > I should probably start a new thread, but I am playing around with > > > multiple ideas for phone systems. I want to offer phone service and > > > vm that is easily set up on the fly like Cisco Call Manager and > > > Unity - only because i expect more business clients that will need > > > it (and plus it is something I already know how to maintain lol). > > > The Media market is like that. It's a pretty large expense > > > initially, but I am thinking that it will save me money in the long > > > run. > > > > > Who is doing what with their phone systems? > > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alex Hillman < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: > > > 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an > > > issue, it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make > > > sure you're not web-serving over fios. But "reselling bandwidth", > > > which to some degree you are doing, MAY be against TOS. > > > > > 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously > > > jealous of you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia > > > yet. Bugger. > > > > > Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle > > > a pile of people hammering on it pretty hard. > > > > > -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia > > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a > > > month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up > > > quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > > > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's > > > stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) > > > it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin > > > 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had > > > generally fickle responses from both. > > > > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. > > > And for $130/month you can't touch it. > > > > > -Alex > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > > > unicorn videos > > > > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. > > > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > > > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are > > > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > > > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > > > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
Ditto for us at the start of Office Nomads. There was no reason to put in a phone system if no one was planning to use it. Recently we've gotten more and more requests for potential phone use, and are researching options on how to make it cheap and easy. And we're all realizing it would be great to have a couple of conference room phones to offer up that possibility as well. Any recommendations for how to get phone systems in that are $25/less per user would be great! S On Mar 27, 11:53 am, Gmail User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, at CS, we, too found out that indies use their cell phones...and > for those 2 people who wanted a dedicated line, Speakeasy provides > static IPs to run a VOIP phone. Super simple and really cheap! > > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:46 AM, "Alex Hillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > When it comes to systems like these...my advice is to not overplan > > without talking to potential users. Why spend money on a system to > > find out that your business clients prefer using their own cell > > phones instead? We found that out as we were getting potential > > members together and as such, we did not spend any money on phone > > systems (with the exception of a couple of user-provided VOIP boxes). > > > Bottom line, research so you know what your options are, but I > > wouldn't drop coin on it until you are confident you need it! > > > 2c > > > Alex Hillman, IndyHall > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Lisa Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > Very good points, Alex.. adding this to my list of questions for > > vendors! > > > I should probably start a new thread, but I am playing around with > > multiple ideas for phone systems. I want to offer phone service and > > vm that is easily set up on the fly like Cisco Call Manager and > > Unity - only because i expect more business clients that will need > > it (and plus it is something I already know how to maintain lol). > > The Media market is like that. It's a pretty large expense > > initially, but I am thinking that it will save me money in the long > > run. > > > Who is doing what with their phone systems? > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alex Hillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: > > 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an > > issue, it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make > > sure you're not web-serving over fios. But "reselling bandwidth", > > which to some degree you are doing, MAY be against TOS. > > > 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously > > jealous of you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia > > yet. Bugger. > > > Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle > > a pile of people hammering on it pretty hard. > > > -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a > > month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up > > quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's > > stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) > > it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin > > 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had > > generally fickle responses from both. > > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. > > And for $130/month you can't touch it. > > > -Alex > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > > unicorn videos > > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. > > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are > > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything > > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We > > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs > > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > > Jacob Sayles > > Co-founder & Janitor > >http://officenomads.com > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't > > have a > > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ > > geeks are > > > gathered. > > > > Tara > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergree
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
Yeah, at CS, we, too found out that indies use their cell phones...and for those 2 people who wanted a dedicated line, Speakeasy provides static IPs to run a VOIP phone. Super simple and really cheap! T Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:46 AM, "Alex Hillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > When it comes to systems like these...my advice is to not overplan > without talking to potential users. Why spend money on a system to > find out that your business clients prefer using their own cell > phones instead? We found that out as we were getting potential > members together and as such, we did not spend any money on phone > systems (with the exception of a couple of user-provided VOIP boxes). > > Bottom line, research so you know what your options are, but I > wouldn't drop coin on it until you are confident you need it! > > 2c > > Alex Hillman, IndyHall > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Lisa Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > Very good points, Alex.. adding this to my list of questions for > vendors! > > I should probably start a new thread, but I am playing around with > multiple ideas for phone systems. I want to offer phone service and > vm that is easily set up on the fly like Cisco Call Manager and > Unity - only because i expect more business clients that will need > it (and plus it is something I already know how to maintain lol). > The Media market is like that. It's a pretty large expense > initially, but I am thinking that it will save me money in the long > run. > > Who is doing what with their phone systems? > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alex Hillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: > 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an > issue, it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make > sure you're not web-serving over fios. But "reselling bandwidth", > which to some degree you are doing, MAY be against TOS. > > 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously > jealous of you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia > yet. Bugger. > > Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle > a pile of people hammering on it pretty hard. > > -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a > month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up > quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's > stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) > it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin > 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had > generally fickle responses from both. > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. > And for $130/month you can't touch it. > > -Alex > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > unicorn videos > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > Jacob Sayles > Co-founder & Janitor > http://officenomads.com > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't > have a > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ > geeks are > > gathered. > > > > Tara > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for > internet > > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone > gotten > > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > > > thanks > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > > coFounder > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > > blog: www.horsepigcow.com > > phone: 415-694-1951 > > fax: 415-727-5335 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > round(3)media new! ask me about
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
When it comes to systems like these...my advice is to not overplan without talking to potential users. Why spend money on a system to find out that your business clients prefer using their own cell phones instead? We found that out as we were getting potential members together and as such, we did not spend any money on phone systems (with the exception of a couple of user-provided VOIP boxes). Bottom line, research so you know what your options are, but I wouldn't drop coin on it until you are confident you need it! 2c Alex Hillman, IndyHall On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Lisa Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very good points, Alex.. adding this to my list of questions for vendors! > > I should probably start a new thread, but I am playing around with > multiple ideas for phone systems. I want to offer phone service and vm that > is easily set up on the fly like Cisco Call Manager and Unity - only because > i expect more business clients that will need it (and plus it is something I > already know how to maintain lol). The Media market is like that. It's a > pretty large expense initially, but I am thinking that it will save me money > in the long run. > > Who is doing what with their phone systems? > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alex Hillman < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: > > 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an issue, > > it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make sure you're > > not web-serving over fios. But "reselling bandwidth", which to some degree > > you are doing, MAY be against TOS. > > > > 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously jealous > > of you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia yet. Bugger. > > > > Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle a > > pile of people hammering on it pretty hard. > > > > -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a > > > month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up > > > > quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > > > > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's > > > > stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's > > > > been > > > > good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have > > > > tried a > > > > DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from > > > > both. > > > > > > > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. > > > > And for $130/month you can't touch it. > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > > > > > unicorn videos > > > > > > > > > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about > > > > > $350. > > > > > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > > > > > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We > > > > > are > > > > > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > > > > > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > > > > > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't > > > > > everything > > > > > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. > > > > > We > > > > > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and > > > > > runs > > > > > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > > > > > > > > > Jacob Sayles > > > > > Co-founder & Janitor > > > > > http://officenomads.com > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't > > > > > have a > > > > > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when > > > > > 35+ geeks are > > > > > > gathered. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for > > > > > internet > > > > > > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone > > > > > gotten > > > > > > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > tara 'miss rogue
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
Very good points, Alex.. adding this to my list of questions for vendors! I should probably start a new thread, but I am playing around with multiple ideas for phone systems. I want to offer phone service and vm that is easily set up on the fly like Cisco Call Manager and Unity - only because i expect more business clients that will need it (and plus it is something I already know how to maintain lol). The Media market is like that. It's a pretty large expense initially, but I am thinking that it will save me money in the long run. Who is doing what with their phone systems? On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Alex Hillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: > 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an issue, > it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make sure you're > not web-serving over fios. But "reselling bandwidth", which to some degree > you are doing, MAY be against TOS. > > 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously jealous of > you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia yet. Bugger. > > Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle a pile > of people hammering on it pretty hard. > > -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a > > month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite > > > nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > > > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's > > > stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's > > > been > > > good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have > > > tried a > > > DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from > > > both. > > > > > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. > > > And for $130/month you can't touch it. > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > > > > unicorn videos > > > > > > > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about > > > > $350. > > > > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > > > > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We > > > > are > > > > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > > > > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > > > > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't > > > > everything > > > > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. > > > > We > > > > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and > > > > runs > > > > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > > > > > > > Jacob Sayles > > > > Co-founder & Janitor > > > > http://officenomads.com > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't > > > > have a > > > > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ > > > > geeks are > > > > > gathered. > > > > > > > > > > Tara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for > > > > internet > > > > > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > > > > > > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone > > > > gotten > > > > > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > > > > > coFounder > > > > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > > > > > blog: www.horsepigcow.com > > > > > phone: 415-694-1951 > > > > > fax: 415-727-5335 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > - > > > -- > > > - > > > Alex Hillman > > > round(3)media new! ask me about it > > > digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com > > > local: www.indyhall.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > round(3)media new! ask me about it > digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local: www.indyhall.org > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cowo
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
FIOS is AMAZING, there's only two potential issues: 1) make sure that the license allows commercial use. It may be an issue, it may not. I do know that they usually block port 80 to make sure you're not web-serving over fios. But "reselling bandwidth", which to some degree you are doing, MAY be against TOS. 2) if it's not available. If it is available, I'm ridiculously jealous of you because we can't get it in center city philadelphia yet. Bugger. Other than those issues, FIOS is excruciatingly fast and can handle a pile of people hammering on it pretty hard. -Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Lisa Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a > month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite > > nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable > > and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good > > this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a > > DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from > > both. > > > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And > > for $130/month you can't touch it. > > > > -Alex > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > > > unicorn videos > > > > > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. > > > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > > > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are > > > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > > > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > > > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything > > > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We > > > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs > > > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > > > > > Jacob Sayles > > > Co-founder & Janitor > > > http://officenomads.com > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have > > > a > > > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ > > > geeks are > > > > gathered. > > > > > > > > Tara > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for > > > internet > > > > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > > > > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone > > > gotten > > > > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > > > > coFounder > > > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > > > > blog: www.horsepigcow.com > > > > phone: 415-694-1951 > > > > fax: 415-727-5335 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > - > > -- > > - > > Alex Hillman > > round(3)media new! ask me about it > > digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com > > local: www.indyhall.org > > > > > > > > > > -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
This is a huge help. Looks like Speakeasy is the way to go and luckily they service Houston (or at least our part of Houston). Looking forward to testing out all the the router/repeater solutions out there. Thanks Tara, Jacob and Alex On Mar 26, 2:46 pm, "Alex Hillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite > nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and > can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this > month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in > the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for > $130/month you can't touch it. > > -Alex > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > > unicorn videos > > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. > > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are > > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything > > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We > > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs > > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > > Jacob Sayles > > Co-founder & Janitor > >http://officenomads.com > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a > > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks > > are > > > gathered. > > > > Tara > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet > > > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten > > > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > > thanks > > > > Matthew > > > > -- > > > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > > > coFounder > > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > > > blog:www.horsepigcow.com > > > phone: 415-694-1951 > > > fax: 415-727-5335 > > -- > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > round(3)media new! ask me about it > digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > visual:www.round3media.com|www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local:www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
I was planning on using Verizon's FIOS. Has the speed and it's 40 a month. Anyone think thats a bad idea? On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alex Hillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite > nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable > and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good > this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a > DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from > both. > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And > for $130/month you can't touch it. > > -Alex > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > > unicorn videos > > > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. > > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are > > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything > > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We > > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs > > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > > > Jacob Sayles > > Co-founder & Janitor > > http://officenomads.com > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a > > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ > > geeks are > > > gathered. > > > > > > Tara > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet > > > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone > > gotten > > > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > > > coFounder > > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > > > blog: www.horsepigcow.com > > > phone: 415-694-1951 > > > fax: 415-727-5335 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > round(3)media new! ask me about it > digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local: www.indyhall.org > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
I'm lucky, next door is a major ISP in Rochester, "Netsville" - so I have a 100Mb drop for pennies. Router wise I'm using an Airport Extreme but think I need something a bit better at segregating / managing traffic - we still haven't setup VoIP phones yet and I want to make sure they're not going to slog the whole network etc (but I'm also not "IT guy" enough to know how)... hopefully a fellow coworker here can assist me :) -dm On Mar 26, 3:46 pm, "Alex Hillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite > nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. > Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and > can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this > month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in > the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. > > Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for > $130/month you can't touch it. > > -Alex > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > > unicorn videos > > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. > > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are > > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything > > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We > > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs > > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > > Jacob Sayles > > Co-founder & Janitor > >http://officenomads.com > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a > > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks > > are > > > gathered. > > > > Tara > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet > > > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten > > > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > > thanks > > > > Matthew > > > > -- > > > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > > > coFounder > > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > > > blog:www.horsepigcow.com > > > phone: 415-694-1951 > > > fax: 415-727-5335 > > -- > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > round(3)media new! ask me about it > digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > visual:www.round3media.com|www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local:www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
We also have a speakeasy commercial line as well that's stood up quite nicely even at 5pm on a friday when everyone's watching hulu. Our router situation is still in flux as we find something that's stable and can handle the load better wirelessly. (knock on wood) it's been good this month. We're currently running on the Belkin 54g, but have tried a DD-WRT in the past as well and have had generally fickle responses from both. Hard-wired to the DSL, though...even when we're packed it's snappy. And for $130/month you can't touch it. -Alex On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jacob Sayles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those > unicorn videos > > At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. > It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. > When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are > looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a > direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and > maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything > and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We > use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs > PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. > > Jacob Sayles > Co-founder & Janitor > http://officenomads.com > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a > > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks > are > > gathered. > > > > Tara > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet > > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten > > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > > > thanks > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > > coFounder > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > > blog: www.horsepigcow.com > > phone: 415-694-1951 > > fax: 415-727-5335 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- -- - -- - Alex Hillman round(3)media new! ask me about it digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visual: www.round3media.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
I'm sure you'll need maximum bandwidth for downloading all those unicorn videos At Office Nomads we have a T1 with speakeasy that goes for about $350. It's 1.5Mbits up and down and is guaranteed and solid as a rock. When you go to officenomads.com you are going over this pipe. We are looking to expand for heavy traffic days by load balancing over a direct wifi link to our friend's server rack downtown (3Mbit) and maybe even a fat DSL or cable line (6-10Mbit). Speed isn't everything and your router/firewall has a lot to do with quality of service. We use a fun little box that has no moving parts, 6 interfaces, and runs PFSense. It was about $400 and it makes me smile. Jacob Sayles Co-founder & Janitor http://officenomads.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a > dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks are > gathered. > > Tara > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hiya, > > > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet > > access for coworking spaces. > > > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten > > ISPs to sponsor? > > > > thanks > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > -- > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > coFounder > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > blog: www.horsepigcow.com > phone: 415-694-1951 > fax: 415-727-5335 > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Internet Access for Coworking Spaces
We use Speakeasy in SF. I don't know where they cover. We don't have a dedicated line, but it's pretty reliable and quick, even when 35+ geeks are gathered. Tara On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Wettergreen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hiya, > > I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the best options for internet > access for coworking spaces. > > What type of plan does everyone have? Speed? Price? Has anyone gotten > ISPs to sponsor? > > thanks > Matthew > > > > -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
