[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[t...@c4workspace]

Sorry, getting to this late. Catching up.

The Wrath of Khoworking.

I'm done. Carry on.

Todd
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[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Ryan Price]

Is it wrong to create *an* entity, not *the* entity, that can take
some action? Many open source projects have similar support to help
them pay for web servers and the like. I'm sure this idea has even
been mentioned earlier in the week. I guess that some people might see
the new thing as the lightning rod - which could be good or bad.

Then, once there are some processes (e.g. how do I get a password)
they can be documented and things can be very distributed and self-
starting, except for those few times when we need to renew a domain
name or whatever. For a year or two, maybe we just ask someone to take
point (Alex is that person today), but make sure that a few people are
able to pull the trigger. If there are gatekeepers, they should be
able to anoint other gatekeepers.

We were borrowing a domain name from someone locally (for a user
group) here and he let it lapse, so for a week we were trying to call
that guy and begging him to renew. I'd hate to see that happen on a
global level.

Peace,
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On Feb 19, 11:32 am, Alex Hillman 
wrote:
> I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle:
>
> *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund
> without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is
> spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more
> equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS  wrote:
> > yes - all done!  What's next on coworking.com?
>
> > On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:
>
> > Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good
> > start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.
>
> > Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs
> > Zombo.com off-list, yes?
>
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS  wrote:
>
> >> Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and
> >> try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're 
> >> about
> >> 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.  
> >> http://www.symfony-project.org/looksgood too.
> >> peace,
> >> Chad
>
> >> On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
> >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
>
> >> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather
> >> considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website
> >> tool.  It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it
> >> is robust!  Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and
> >> build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!
>
> >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
>
> >> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
> >> CMS ;)
>
> >> Just teasing.
>
> >> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as
> >> such. :)
>
> >> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people
> >> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress
> >> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another
> >> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to
> >> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum
> >> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional
> >> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is
> >> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes
> >> the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time
> >> consuming/expensive.)
>
> >> FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in
> >> core+plugins but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a
> >> conference in Atlanta called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how 
> >> to
> >> use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how 
> >> effective
> >> it is now.
>
> >> -Mike Schinkel
> >> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Alex Hillman]

Devin,

This is very, very cool. We've been looking for something like this
regionally for event fundraising.

I'll be in touch off-list.

-Alex

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Devin  wrote:

> Alex: my company beex.org is a challenge and project-based fundraising
> platform.  People use it to say what they'll do if a certain amount of
> money if raised for the nonprofit of their choice.  For example, you
> could use it to say something like 'We will purchase coworking.com if
> $6000 is raised for (nonprofit org)."  The system allows anyone with a
> paypal address to receive funds but so far we've only let nonprofits
> register.
>
> I LOVE coworking and am starting a cafe/coworking space with some
> friends in Brooklyn this spring so we'd be honored if our tools could
> power this community's fundraising efforts.  Everything is free: no
> startup charges, no transaction fees.  We're getting sponsors to pay
> for everything.  :)
>
> We have two options to adapt BEEx to the needs of this community:
> 1.  We can get a nonprofit to fiscally sponsor our projects.  This
> would make all donations to these projects tax-deductible because the
> money would flow through a nonprofit whose mission is aligned with the
> coworking movement.  I know a number of organizations who would be
> interested in fiscally sponsoring these projects.  With just a little
> coordination we could be collecting tax-deductible donations by the
> end of the week.
> 2.  We could also create a custom solution for coworking that alerts
> users that their donations aren't tax deductible but I'd much prefer
> to do option 1.
>
> Let's discuss more off list.
>
> Folks: If you guys have favorite nonprofits please email me their
> names and my genuinely charming partner will reach out to them after
> our next site update (javascript registration and improved
> formatting!) this week.
>
> Exciting stuff.
>
>
> On Feb 19, 11:32 am, Alex Hillman 
> wrote:
> > I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle:
> >
> > *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> > sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website
> fund
> > without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise
> is
> > spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> > this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> > spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> > individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone
> more
> > equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
> >
> > /ah
> > indyhall.org
> > coworking in philadelphia
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS  wrote:
> > > yes - all done!  What's next on coworking.com?
> >
> > > On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:
> >
> > > Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a
> good
> > > start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.
> >
> > > Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs
> > > Zombo.com off-list, yes?
> >
> > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS 
> wrote:
> >
> > >> Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each
> and
> > >> try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're
> about
> > >> 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.
> http://www.symfony-project.org/looksgood too.
> > >> peace,
> > >> Chad
> >
> > >> On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> >
> > >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
> >
> > >> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather
> > >> considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a
> website
> > >> tool.  It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get
> it, it
> > >> is robust!  Just thinking if you want to create a community
> environment and
> > >> build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!
> >
> > >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
> >
> > >> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
> > >> CMS ;)
> >
> > >> Just teasing.
> >
> > >> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it
> as as
> > >> such. :)
> >
> > >> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen
> people
> > >> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs.
> WordPress
> > >> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another
> > >> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As
> way to
> > >> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum
> > >> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a
> professional
> > >> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or
> jQuery is
> > >> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically
> makes
> > >> the first 85% easy but the last 

[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Devin]

Alex: my company beex.org is a challenge and project-based fundraising
platform.  People use it to say what they'll do if a certain amount of
money if raised for the nonprofit of their choice.  For example, you
could use it to say something like 'We will purchase coworking.com if
$6000 is raised for (nonprofit org)."  The system allows anyone with a
paypal address to receive funds but so far we've only let nonprofits
register.

I LOVE coworking and am starting a cafe/coworking space with some
friends in Brooklyn this spring so we'd be honored if our tools could
power this community's fundraising efforts.  Everything is free: no
startup charges, no transaction fees.  We're getting sponsors to pay
for everything.  :)

We have two options to adapt BEEx to the needs of this community:
1.  We can get a nonprofit to fiscally sponsor our projects.  This
would make all donations to these projects tax-deductible because the
money would flow through a nonprofit whose mission is aligned with the
coworking movement.  I know a number of organizations who would be
interested in fiscally sponsoring these projects.  With just a little
coordination we could be collecting tax-deductible donations by the
end of the week.
2.  We could also create a custom solution for coworking that alerts
users that their donations aren't tax deductible but I'd much prefer
to do option 1.

Let's discuss more off list.

Folks: If you guys have favorite nonprofits please email me their
names and my genuinely charming partner will reach out to them after
our next site update (javascript registration and improved
formatting!) this week.

Exciting stuff.


On Feb 19, 11:32 am, Alex Hillman 
wrote:
> I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle:
>
> *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund
> without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is
> spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more
> equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS  wrote:
> > yes - all done!  What's next on coworking.com?
>
> > On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:
>
> > Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good
> > start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.
>
> > Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs
> > Zombo.com off-list, yes?
>
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS  wrote:
>
> >> Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and
> >> try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're 
> >> about
> >> 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.  
> >> http://www.symfony-project.org/looksgood too.
> >> peace,
> >> Chad
>
> >> On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
> >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
>
> >> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather
> >> considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website
> >> tool.  It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it
> >> is robust!  Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and
> >> build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!
>
> >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
>
> >> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
> >> CMS ;)
>
> >> Just teasing.
>
> >> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as
> >> such. :)
>
> >> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people
> >> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress
> >> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another
> >> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to
> >> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum
> >> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional
> >> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is
> >> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes
> >> the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time
> >> consuming/expensive.)
>
> >> FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in
> >> core+plugins but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a
> >> conference in Atlanta called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how 
> >> to
> >> use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how 
> >> effective
> >> it is now.
>
> >> -Mike Schinkel
> >> Ignition Alley Atlanta C

[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[dr.ron]

Who is interested in copartying and connecting it with coworking?

I am a member of New Work City (in NYC) and spent many years in Ann
Arbor, so I am friends with the co-workers at workantileexchange.com.
Back in the 1980's I was also part of "small systems group" an early
coworking experiment that emerged from the local MacTechnics users
group.

After I recently provided DJ/VJ services for a KeenKong launch party
at New Work City, I decided to register copartying.com. I'd like to
see it end up containing information about cooperating to be "really"
social (i.e. in person, not just virtually social).

>From 2002 to 2005, I ran a monthly networking party in Ann Arbor
called "Network Downtown," usually in the offices of some tech start-
up. I was the web master, host, head chef, bartender and DJ/VJ. People
really took the the work spaces and galleries, that we used for our
parties, as an alternative to the bar scene. And it what continues to
be a down economy, many of us in start-up companies do not have a lot
of money to spend in bars and restaurants for our social events.

>From the cost effective use of making a space multi-purpose to the
notion of taking control of our social space the way coworking is
taking control of our work space, I'm interested in what others think
about this.

- dr.ron

On Feb 20, 2:55 pm, WHERE MMM  wrote:
> nice idea... they are looking at various forms of media outreach... we are
> the NEW generation.
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Steven Heath  wrote:
> > On 21 February 2010 07:18, resourcesuites 
> > wrote:
> > > i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
> > > over the bar, not compete to raise it.
>
> > Bring on Pepsi as sponsor?
>
> > --
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> > Director, Foxbane Consulting
> > Founder, AltSpace
> > Cell: +64 21 706-067
> >www.foxbane.co.nz
> > Level 22
> > Plimmer Towers
> > 2 Gilmer Terrace
> > Wellington
>
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> > Wellington for home based
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[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[resourcesuites]

it also refers to the users of our spaces, and the are the new
generation of entrepreneurs.  They span from millenials to baby
boomers who are entering entrepreneurship.

On Feb 20, 9:12 am, Alex Hillman  wrote:
> That's the 3rd Star Trek reference in just this thread.
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphiaOn Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM, TCS 
>  wrote:
> > Coworking:Deep Space Nine
>
> > On 2010-02-20, at 2:03 PM, Tara Hunt wrote:
>
> > How about Coworking: the same generation, but better! ;P
>
> > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, WHERE MMM  wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM  wrote:
>
> >>> good comment.!
>
> >>> Danielle Nicoli
> >>> WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles
>
> >>>   On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites <
> >>> dan...@resourcesuites.com> wrote:
>
>  i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
>  over the bar, not compete to raise it.
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[WHERE MMM]

nice idea... they are looking at various forms of media outreach... we are
the NEW generation.




On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Steven Heath  wrote:

> On 21 February 2010 07:18, resourcesuites 
> wrote:
> > i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
> > over the bar, not compete to raise it.
> >
>
> Bring on Pepsi as sponsor?
>
>
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> Cell: +64 21 706-067
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> Wellington
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Steven Heath]

On 21 February 2010 07:18, resourcesuites  wrote:
> i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
> over the bar, not compete to raise it.
>

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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Alex Hillman]

That's the 3rd Star Trek reference in just this thread.

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM, TCS  wrote:

> Coworking:Deep Space Nine
>
> On 2010-02-20, at 2:03 PM, Tara Hunt wrote:
>
> How about Coworking: the same generation, but better! ;P
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, WHERE MMM  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM  wrote:
>>
>>> good comment.!
>>>
>>> Danielle Nicoli
>>> WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles
>>>
>>>   On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites <
>>> dan...@resourcesuites.com> wrote:
>>>
 i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
 over the bar, not compete to raise it.



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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[TCS]

Coworking:Deep Space Nine

On 2010-02-20, at 2:03 PM, Tara Hunt wrote:

> How about Coworking: the same generation, but better! ;P
> 
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, WHERE MMM  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM  wrote:
> good comment.!
>  
> Danielle Nicoli
> WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles
> 
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites  
> wrote:
> i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
> over the bar, not compete to raise it.
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Tara Hunt]

How about Coworking: the same generation, but better! ;P

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, WHERE MMM  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM  wrote:
>
>> good comment.!
>>
>> Danielle Nicoli
>> WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles
>>
>>   On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites <
>> dan...@resourcesuites.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
>>> over the bar, not compete to raise it.
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM  wrote:

> good comment.!
>
> Danielle Nicoli
> WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles
>
>   On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites <
> dan...@resourcesuites.com> wrote:
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>> i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
>> over the bar, not compete to raise it.
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[WHERE MMM]

good comment.!

Danielle Nicoli
WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites
wrote:

> i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
> over the bar, not compete to raise it.
>
> On Feb 18, 2:29 pm, Alex Hillman  wrote:
> > Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie
> and
> > Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple
> > static homepage to display the community core values and point them to
> the
> > three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal
> > sent out earlier this week.
> >
> > The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the
> blog. It
> > defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those
> places
> > to get involved.
> >
> > http://coworking.com
> >
> > It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined
> on
> > the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial
> or
> > even organizational intent. It just says "we're here, and we're not going
> > anywhere". I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative
> and
> > lets us go ANY direction we want.
> >
> > The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to
> > copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something
> else
> > came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept
> stays
> > clear.
> >
> > I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't
> hurt
> > my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :)
> >
> > There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up
> > since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt
> with
> > one at a time.
> >
> > I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list,
> to
> > discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds.
> >
> > *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> > sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website
> fund
> > without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise
> is
> > spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> > this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> > spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> > individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone
> more
> > equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
> >
> > Let's brainstorm!
> >
> > I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome
> during
> > the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted
> last
> > night on the last 10 years with the domain.
> http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > /ah
> > indyhall.org
> > coworking in philadelphia
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Alex Hillman]

Somebody just as picky as I am about words. I can respect that :)

-Alex

/ah
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM, resourcesuites
wrote:

> i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
> over the bar, not compete to raise it.
>
> On Feb 18, 2:29 pm, Alex Hillman  wrote:
> > Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie
> and
> > Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple
> > static homepage to display the community core values and point them to
> the
> > three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal
> > sent out earlier this week.
> >
> > The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the
> blog. It
> > defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those
> places
> > to get involved.
> >
> > http://coworking.com
> >
> > It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined
> on
> > the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial
> or
> > even organizational intent. It just says "we're here, and we're not going
> > anywhere". I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative
> and
> > lets us go ANY direction we want.
> >
> > The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to
> > copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something
> else
> > came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept
> stays
> > clear.
> >
> > I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't
> hurt
> > my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :)
> >
> > There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up
> > since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt
> with
> > one at a time.
> >
> > I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list,
> to
> > discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds.
> >
> > *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> > sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website
> fund
> > without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise
> is
> > spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> > this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> > spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> > individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone
> more
> > equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
> >
> > Let's brainstorm!
> >
> > I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome
> during
> > the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted
> last
> > night on the last 10 years with the domain.
> http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > /ah
> > indyhall.org
> > coworking in philadelphia
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[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[resourcesuites]

i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation.  let's cross
over the bar, not compete to raise it.

On Feb 18, 2:29 pm, Alex Hillman  wrote:
> Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie and
> Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple
> static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the
> three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal
> sent out earlier this week.
>
> The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog. It
> defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those places
> to get involved.
>
> http://coworking.com
>
> It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on
> the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or
> even organizational intent. It just says "we're here, and we're not going
> anywhere". I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and
> lets us go ANY direction we want.
>
> The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to
> copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else
> came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays
> clear.
>
> I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't hurt
> my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :)
>
> There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up
> since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with
> one at a time.
>
> I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to
> discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds.
>
> *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund
> without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is
> spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more
> equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
>
> Let's brainstorm!
>
> I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome during
> the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted last
> night on the last 10 years with the 
> domain.http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/
>
> -Alex
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia

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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Alex Hillman]

I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle:

*I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund
without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is
spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more
equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.

/ah
indyhall.org
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS  wrote:

> yes - all done!  What's next on coworking.com?
>
> On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:
>
> Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good
> start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.
>
> Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs
> Zombo.com off-list, yes?
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS  wrote:
>
>> Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and
>> try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're about
>> 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.  http://www.symfony-project.org/looks 
>> good too.
>> peace,
>> Chad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
>>
>> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather
>> considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website
>> tool.  It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it
>> is robust!  Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and
>> build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!
>>
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
>> CMS ;)
>>
>> Just teasing.
>>
>>
>> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as
>> such. :)
>>
>>
>> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people
>> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress
>> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another
>> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to
>> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum
>> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional
>> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is
>> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes
>> the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time
>> consuming/expensive.)
>>
>>
>> FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in
>> core+plugins but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a
>> conference in Atlanta called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how to
>> use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective
>> it is now.
>>
>>
>> -Mike Schinkel
>> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
>> http://ignitionalley.com
>>
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[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Tim Dorr]

On Feb 19, 12:48 am, Mike Schinkel 
wrote:
> p.s. OTOH, my partner in Ignition Alley is a Drupal guy so there you go!

Said Drupal-loving partner here :)

I'm the guy that too www.ignitionalley.com from PSD to HTML to Drupal
to custom-built members area with Freshbooks and PayPal integration. I
know Wordpress pretty well too and am really platform-agnostic. I'm
glad to lend my talents wherever needed.

I'm actually in the process of selling one of my companies (final
paperwork went out today!), so I'll have a glut of free time to be
able to help in the coming weeks :) I also have a design company that
I'll be focusing on, so I have a whole group of guys to fall back on
as needed.

Let's build something awesome!

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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[TCS]

yes - all done!  What's next on coworking.com?

On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:

> Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good 
> start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.
> 
> Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs 
> Zombo.com off-list, yes? 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS  wrote:
> Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and 
> try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're about 
> 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.  http://www.symfony-project.org/ looks 
> good too.
> peace,
> Chad
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
>> 
>>> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering 
>>> the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool.  It's 
>>> not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust!  
>>> Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a 
>>> more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!  
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
>>> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
>>> CMS ;)
>>> 
>>> Just teasing.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as 
>> such. :)
>> 
>> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people 
>> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress 
>> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another 
>> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to 
>> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum 
>> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional 
>> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is 
>> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes 
>> the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time 
>> consuming/expensive.)
>> 
>> FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins 
>> but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a conference in 
>> Atlanta called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how to use it for 
>> local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now.
>> 
>> -Mike Schinkel
>> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
>> http://ignitionalley.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Alex Hillman]

HAHA you said Zombo.

/ah
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo
wrote:

> Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good
> start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.
>
> Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs
> Zombo.com off-list, yes?
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS  wrote:
>
>> Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and
>> try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're about
>> 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.  http://www.symfony-project.org/looks 
>> good too.
>> peace,
>> Chad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
>>
>> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather
>> considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website
>> tool.  It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it
>> is robust!  Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and
>> build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!
>>
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
>> CMS ;)
>>
>> Just teasing.
>>
>>
>> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as
>> such. :)
>>
>>
>> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people
>> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress
>> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another
>> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to
>> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum
>> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional
>> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is
>> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes
>> the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time
>> consuming/expensive.)
>>
>>
>> FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in
>> core+plugins but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a
>> conference in Atlanta called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how to
>> use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective
>> it is now.
>>
>>
>> -Mike Schinkel
>> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
>> http://ignitionalley.com
>>
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Tony Bacigalupo]

Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good
start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.

Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs
Zombo.com off-list, yes?


On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS  wrote:

> Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and
> try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're about
> 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.  http://www.symfony-project.org/looks 
> good too.
> peace,
> Chad
>
>
>
>
> On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
>
> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering
> the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool.  It's
> not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust!
>  Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a
> more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
>
> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
> CMS ;)
>
> Just teasing.
>
>
> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as
> such. :)
>
>
> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people
> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress
> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another
> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to
> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum
> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional
> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is
> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes
> the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time
> consuming/expensive.)
>
>
> FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in
> core+plugins but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a
> conference in Atlanta called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how to
> use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective
> it is now.
>
>
> -Mike Schinkel
> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
> http://ignitionalley.com
>
>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[TCS]

Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and try 
to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're about 80/20 
between Drupal instals and WP.  http://www.symfony-project.org/ looks good too.
peace,
Chad




On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:

> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
> 
>> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering 
>> the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool.  It's 
>> not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust!  
>> Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a 
>> more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!  
> 
> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
>> CMS ;)
>> 
>> Just teasing.
> 
> 
> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as 
> such. :)
> 
> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people 
> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress 
> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another 
> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to 
> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum 
> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional 
> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is 
> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes 
> the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time 
> consuming/expensive.)
> 
> FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins 
> but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a conference in Atlanta 
> called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how to use it for local 
> businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now.
> 
> -Mike Schinkel
> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
> http://ignitionalley.com
> 
> 
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[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Jacob Patton]

This is all massively -- dare I say, "dangerously" -- awesome.  Rock
on, Alex, for wrangling the domain purchase.

I long, long time ago, I had a minor hand in the Coworkination code,
and I still have it kicking around here somewhere.  If I may provide
dev help in resurrecting a Rails-based community component of the
site, I'd love to do it.

well done, all.

-Jacob

On Feb 19, 9:33 am, Alex Hillman  wrote:
> I wanted to snapshot my memories of this last week as I remembered it, and
> share it.
>
> I wrote this last night. As I said on Twitter, I'm sure I left out something
> Juicy, but:
>
> http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/2010/02/18/coworking-com-the-next-g...
>
> 
> -Alex
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:25 AM, TCS  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering
> > the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool.  It's
> > not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust!
> >  Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a
> > more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!  Either way, we'll
> > help.
>
> > Chad
>
> > On 2010-02-19, at 12:48 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
> > We're a Drupal studio.  If planned well the site can be both aesthetically
> > pleasing and self sustained.  (Drupal is the # 1 opensourse CMS)
>
> > Sorry to hijack the thread *but only for a bit;* I just can't let that
> > assertion stand unchallenged! :-) Drupal is not the #1 opensource CMS,
> > WordPress is! It's got far more users than Drupal!  ;-)
>
> > Anyway, I'm a former Drupal guy who after 2 years finally realized how much
> > pain Drupal was causing me and switched to WordPress, never been happier!
> > :)
>
> >  -Mike Schinkel
> > Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
> >http://ignitionalley.com
>
> > p.s. OTOH, my partner in Ignition Alley is a Drupal guy so there you go!
>
> > On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:55 PM, TCS wrote:
>
> > We're a Drupal studio.  If planned well the site can be both aesthetically
> > pleasing and self sustained.  (Drupal is the # 1 opensourse CMS)  We're
> > willing to help develop the site if y'all wanna do the leg work on
> > Information Architecture, finalize a content outline and navigation
> > schematic, name the taxonomy terms and design.  ;o)  We can do design as
> > well, but thought that could be another studio if they want to help. Don't
> > know if there's funds available to offer to help build, but we're willing to
> > do whatever for the cause of coworking!
>
> > Chad
>
> > The Creative Space - Canada
> >www.thecreativespace.ca
> > 705-252-2423
>
> > On 2010-02-18, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> > Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie
> > and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple
> > static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the
> > three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal
> > sent out earlier this week.
>
> > The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog.
> > It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those
> > places to get involved.
>
> >http://coworking.com
>
> > It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on
> > the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or
> > even organizational intent. It just says "we're here, and we're not going
> > anywhere". I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and
> > lets us go ANY direction we want.
>
> > The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to
> > copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else
> > came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays
> > clear.
>
> > I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't
> > hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :)
>
> > There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up
> > since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with
> > one at a time.
>
> > I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to
> > discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds.
>
> > *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> > sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund
> > without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is
> > spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> > this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> > spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> > individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more
> > equal access to th

Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Mike Schinkel]

On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:

> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering 
> the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool.  It's 
> not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust!  
> Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a 
> more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!  

On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
> CMS ;)
> 
> Just teasing.


Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as 
such. :)

Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people have 
a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress projects 
and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another complication where 
it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to explain and a rule of 
thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum WordPress project cost they'd 
pay a local consultant for a professional design and a bit of custom 
functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is about $2500 vs. the minimum 
Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes the first 85% easy but the last 
15% can be very difficult (and hence time consuming/expensive.)

FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins 
but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a conference in Atlanta 
called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how to use it for local 
businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now.

-Mike Schinkel
Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
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[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Patrick]

> Anyway, I'm a former Drupal guy who after 2 years finally realized how much 
> pain Drupal was causing me and switched to WordPress

Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
CMS ;)

Just teasing.

Thanks Alex for stepping up and putting all that time in, teh awesome
once again.


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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Alex Hillman]

That was awesome.

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:48 PM, j. p. sweeney <
james.swee...@workantileexchange.com> wrote:

> Alex-
>
> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.
>
> J.P.
>
>
> On 18 Feb 2010, at 21:46, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> One more fun, kinda geeky idea I had:
>
> http://github.com/alexknowshtml/Coworking.com
>
> I've now posted the very
> first iteration of the website to github for anybody to fork and contribute
> back to. Bug fixes, UI ideas, copywriting...whatever you like. You can
> submit a pull request to me and we can use true open source to evolve the
> website.
>
> For those who don't now what Git or Github is, I apologize for the last 4
> sentences of what must have appeared to be Klingon to you.
>
> -Alex
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Avesta <2bave...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You did an awesome job handling all of this Alex, and the page looks
>> great!
>>
>> Avesta and Cameron
>> Founders
>> CoLoft
>> Coloft.com
>>
>> On Feb 18, 5:17 pm, Tara Hunt  wrote:
>> > I'm sure it did! I can't find it. I'm sure Messina has a few kicking
>> around.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Alex Hillman
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > You have any screencaps of the early flock pages? I swear this just
>> came
>> > > out of my head! :)
>> >
>> > > /ah
>> > > indyhall.org
>> > > coworking in philadelphia
>> >
>> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Tara Hunt 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> I think it's great for now (reminds me of an early FLOCK page,
>> h?)!
>> > >> And THANK YOU Alex for doing this! You rawk!
>> >
>> > >> p.s. I hope we can revisit Coworkination mockups in the future
>> (please
>> > >> please please?):
>> > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/missrogue/sets/72157600017335084/
>> >
>> > >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman <
>> > >> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with
>> Bernie
>> > >>> and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a
>> simple
>> > >>> static homepage to display the community core values and point them
>> to the
>> > >>> three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the
>> proposal
>> > >>> sent out earlier this week.
>> >
>> > >>> The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the
>> > >>> blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each
>> of
>> > >>> those places to get involved.
>> >
>> > >>>http://coworking.com
>> >
>> > >>> It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already
>> defined
>> > >>> on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any
>> commercial
>> > >>> or even organizational intent. It just says "we're here, and we're
>> not going
>> > >>> anywhere". I think this stake in the ground is extremely
>> representative and
>> > >>> lets us go ANY direction we want.
>> >
>> > >>> The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to
>> > >>> copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if
>> something else
>> > >>> came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general
>> concept stays
>> > >>> clear.
>> >
>> > >>> I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You
>> can't
>> > >>> hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :)
>> >
>> > >>> There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come
>> up
>> > >>> since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be
>> dealt with
>> > >>> one at a time.
>> >
>> > >>> I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the
>> list,
>> > >>> to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds.
>> >
>> > >>> *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a
>> more
>> > >>> sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the
>> website fund
>> > >>> without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund
>> raise is
>> > >>> spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and
>> let
>> > >>> this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should
>> be to
>> > >>> spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
>> > >>> individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving
>> everyone more
>> > >>> equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
>> >
>> > >>> Let's brainstorm!
>> >
>> > >>> I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome
>> > >>> during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective
>> they
>> > >>> posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain.
>> > >>>http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/
>> >
>> > >>> -Alex
>> >
>> > >>> /ah
>> > >>> indyhall.org
>> > >>> coworking in philadelphia
>> >
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Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[j. p. sweeney]

Alex-

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

J.P.


On 18 Feb 2010, at 21:46, Alex Hillman wrote:

> One more fun, kinda geeky idea I had:
> 
> http://github.com/alexknowshtml/Coworking.com
> 
> I've now posted the very first iteration of the website to github for anybody 
> to fork and contribute back to. Bug fixes, UI ideas, copywriting...whatever 
> you like. You can submit a pull request to me and we can use true open source 
> to evolve the website.
> 
> For those who don't now what Git or Github is, I apologize for the last 4 
> sentences of what must have appeared to be Klingon to you.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Avesta <2bave...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You did an awesome job handling all of this Alex, and the page looks
> great!
> 
> Avesta and Cameron
> Founders
> CoLoft
> Coloft.com
> 
> On Feb 18, 5:17 pm, Tara Hunt  wrote:
> > I'm sure it did! I can't find it. I'm sure Messina has a few kicking around.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Alex Hillman
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > You have any screencaps of the early flock pages? I swear this just came
> > > out of my head! :)
> >
> > > /ah
> > > indyhall.org
> > > coworking in philadelphia
> >
> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Tara Hunt  wrote:
> >
> > >> I think it's great for now (reminds me of an early FLOCK page, h?)!
> > >> And THANK YOU Alex for doing this! You rawk!
> >
> > >> p.s. I hope we can revisit Coworkination mockups in the future (please
> > >> please please?):
> > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/missrogue/sets/72157600017335084/
> >
> > >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman <
> > >> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie
> > >>> and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a 
> > >>> simple
> > >>> static homepage to display the community core values and point them to 
> > >>> the
> > >>> three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the 
> > >>> proposal
> > >>> sent out earlier this week.
> >
> > >>> The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the
> > >>> blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of
> > >>> those places to get involved.
> >
> > >>>http://coworking.com
> >
> > >>> It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined
> > >>> on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any 
> > >>> commercial
> > >>> or even organizational intent. It just says "we're here, and we're not 
> > >>> going
> > >>> anywhere". I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative 
> > >>> and
> > >>> lets us go ANY direction we want.
> >
> > >>> The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to
> > >>> copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something 
> > >>> else
> > >>> came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept 
> > >>> stays
> > >>> clear.
> >
> > >>> I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't
> > >>> hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :)
> >
> > >>> There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up
> > >>> since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt 
> > >>> with
> > >>> one at a time.
> >
> > >>> I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list,
> > >>> to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds.
> >
> > >>> *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> > >>> sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website 
> > >>> fund
> > >>> without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund 
> > >>> raise is
> > >>> spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> > >>> this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be 
> > >>> to
> > >>> spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> > >>> individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone 
> > >>> more
> > >>> equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
> >
> > >>> Let's brainstorm!
> >
> > >>> I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome
> > >>> during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they
> > >>> posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain.
> > >>>http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/
> >
> > >>> -Alex
> >
> > >>> /ah
> > >>> indyhall.org
> > >>> coworking in philadelphia
> >
> > >>> --
> > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
> > >>> Groups
> > >>> "Coworking" group.
> > >>> To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com.
> > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> > >>> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> > >>> .
> > >>> For more options, visit this group at
> > >>>h

Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Alex Hillman]

One more fun, kinda geeky idea I had:

http://github.com/alexknowshtml/Coworking.com

I've now posted the very
first iteration of the website to github for anybody to fork and contribute
back to. Bug fixes, UI ideas, copywriting...whatever you like. You can
submit a pull request to me and we can use true open source to evolve the
website.

For those who don't now what Git or Github is, I apologize for the last 4
sentences of what must have appeared to be Klingon to you.

-Alex

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Avesta <2bave...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You did an awesome job handling all of this Alex, and the page looks
> great!
>
> Avesta and Cameron
> Founders
> CoLoft
> Coloft.com
>
> On Feb 18, 5:17 pm, Tara Hunt  wrote:
> > I'm sure it did! I can't find it. I'm sure Messina has a few kicking
> around.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Alex Hillman
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > You have any screencaps of the early flock pages? I swear this just
> came
> > > out of my head! :)
> >
> > > /ah
> > > indyhall.org
> > > coworking in philadelphia
> >
> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Tara Hunt 
> wrote:
> >
> > >> I think it's great for now (reminds me of an early FLOCK page,
> h?)!
> > >> And THANK YOU Alex for doing this! You rawk!
> >
> > >> p.s. I hope we can revisit Coworkination mockups in the future (please
> > >> please please?):
> > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/missrogue/sets/72157600017335084/
> >
> > >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman <
> > >> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with
> Bernie
> > >>> and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a
> simple
> > >>> static homepage to display the community core values and point them
> to the
> > >>> three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the
> proposal
> > >>> sent out earlier this week.
> >
> > >>> The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the
> > >>> blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each
> of
> > >>> those places to get involved.
> >
> > >>>http://coworking.com
> >
> > >>> It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already
> defined
> > >>> on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any
> commercial
> > >>> or even organizational intent. It just says "we're here, and we're
> not going
> > >>> anywhere". I think this stake in the ground is extremely
> representative and
> > >>> lets us go ANY direction we want.
> >
> > >>> The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to
> > >>> copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if
> something else
> > >>> came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general
> concept stays
> > >>> clear.
> >
> > >>> I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You
> can't
> > >>> hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :)
> >
> > >>> There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come
> up
> > >>> since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be
> dealt with
> > >>> one at a time.
> >
> > >>> I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the
> list,
> > >>> to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds.
> >
> > >>> *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a
> more
> > >>> sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the
> website fund
> > >>> without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund
> raise is
> > >>> spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and
> let
> > >>> this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should
> be to
> > >>> spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> > >>> individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone
> more
> > >>> equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
> >
> > >>> Let's brainstorm!
> >
> > >>> I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome
> > >>> during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective
> they
> > >>> posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain.
> > >>>http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/
> >
> > >>> -Alex
> >
> > >>> /ah
> > >>> indyhall.org
> > >>> coworking in philadelphia
> >
> > >>> --
> > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups
> > >>> "Coworking" group.
> > >>> To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com.
> > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> > >>> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> 
> >
> > >>> .
> > >>> For more options, visit this group at
> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
> >
> > >> --
> > >> tara 'missrogue' hunt
> >
> > >> Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor

[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation

[Avesta]

You did an awesome job handling all of this Alex, and the page looks
great!

Avesta and Cameron
Founders
CoLoft
Coloft.com

On Feb 18, 5:17 pm, Tara Hunt  wrote:
> I'm sure it did! I can't find it. I'm sure Messina has a few kicking around.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Alex Hillman
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You have any screencaps of the early flock pages? I swear this just came
> > out of my head! :)
>
> > /ah
> > indyhall.org
> > coworking in philadelphia
>
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Tara Hunt  wrote:
>
> >> I think it's great for now (reminds me of an early FLOCK page, h?)!
> >> And THANK YOU Alex for doing this! You rawk!
>
> >> p.s. I hope we can revisit Coworkination mockups in the future (please
> >> please please?):
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/missrogue/sets/72157600017335084/
>
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman <
> >> dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie
> >>> and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a 
> >>> simple
> >>> static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the
> >>> three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal
> >>> sent out earlier this week.
>
> >>> The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the
> >>> blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of
> >>> those places to get involved.
>
> >>>http://coworking.com
>
> >>> It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined
> >>> on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any 
> >>> commercial
> >>> or even organizational intent. It just says "we're here, and we're not 
> >>> going
> >>> anywhere". I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative 
> >>> and
> >>> lets us go ANY direction we want.
>
> >>> The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to
> >>> copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something 
> >>> else
> >>> came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept 
> >>> stays
> >>> clear.
>
> >>> I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't
> >>> hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :)
>
> >>> There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up
> >>> since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt 
> >>> with
> >>> one at a time.
>
> >>> I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list,
> >>> to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds.
>
> >>> *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> >>> sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website 
> >>> fund
> >>> without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise 
> >>> is
> >>> spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> >>> this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> >>> spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> >>> individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more
> >>> equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
>
> >>> Let's brainstorm!
>
> >>> I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome
> >>> during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they
> >>> posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain.
> >>>http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/
>
> >>> -Alex
>
> >>> /ah
> >>> indyhall.org
> >>> coworking in philadelphia
>
> >>> --
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> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
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> >>> .
> >>> For more options, visit this group at
> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
>
> >> --
> >> tara 'missrogue' hunt
>
> >> Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com)
> >> Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com)
> >> Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue
> >> phone: 514-679-2951
>
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