Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-21 Thread Chris Marshall

David,

Thanks for the clarification.  Since I there is no
longer the direct mirror of cpan-testers responses,
I think wait and see is the best I can do for
diagnostics.

One other question: if a module lists a developers
release of another module as a requirement,
will CPAN or CPANPLUS try to build the module (even
though it is not a stable release, or will some sort
of error (or worse, no information at all...)

Cheers,
Chris

David Cantrell wrote:

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 08:14:50AM -0400, Chris Marshall wrote:


Two modules I have been working with recently, PDL and
OpenGL, seem to have very few testing hits since the end
of August except for the ones generated by our own
developers and testers.


OpenGL relies on libraries that probably won't be installed on dedicated
testing machines.

And then the latest dev release of PDL says ...

  Automated testing environment: enabling WITH_BADVAL, BADVAL_PER_PDL, and
USE_POGL config options
  DEPENDENCY ERROR: USE_POGL requires at least use OpenGL-0.58_007! at
Makefile.PL line 398.


* How can I determine the testers events for a given module?


If you wait a few days, tests should appear at cpantesters.org.


  * By tester ID (Some of the old stand-bys for testing PDL
and OpenGL, no longer show.  Are PDL and OpenGL out of the
rotation or is there something broken somewhere?)


There's no official rotation - individual testers test whatever they
want to test.  The most prolific ones test *everything* that gets
uploaded to the CPAN, in something approximating the order they're
uploaded and in something approximating real time.


* Is there any way too access any regularly updated feed of
  tester results?


There's the NNTP archive.  Not sure if you can actually speak NNTP to it
and get a feed per se.


* Does it matter whether a module is released by the Owner
  or a Co-maintainer for CPAN Tester to work?


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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-21 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Chris Marshall c...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
 One other question: if a module lists a developers
 release of another module as a requirement,
 will CPAN or CPANPLUS try to build the module (even
 though it is not a stable release, or will some sort
 of error (or worse, no information at all...)

CPAN/CPANPLUS can't install development versions because they aren't
indexed.  I *think* they will install the latest stable, then complain
that the prerequisite couldn't be satisfied.

Because the prerequisite could not be satisfied, no CPAN Testers
report will be sent on failure.  (PASS reports would be sent, though.)

If the dependency bumps to a stable release higher than the
development version you've listed, then everything works as normal
again.

Specifying a development release as a prerequisite is a sort of
halfway measure to indicate that whatever is stable on CPAN is not
enough, but in a way that will work fine once the development version
becomes the new stable.

Unless the toolchain is updated to allow *distributions* and not
*modules* to be listed as prerequisites, this is pretty much the best
that can be done.  (Barring a development packages index, which
would probably be an optional thing for users to enable.)

-- David


Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-21 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
 On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:28:03 -0400, David Golden xda...@gmail.com said:

   Unless the toolchain is updated to allow *distributions* and not
   *modules* to be listed as prerequisites, this is pretty much the best
   that can be done.  (Barring a development packages index, which
   would probably be an optional thing for users to enable.)

Bundles come to mind. Distro Foo can depend on Bundle::Bar and
Bundle::Bar can directly demand AUTHOR/Devel-Oper-3.14_159.tar.gz

I think nobody has ever tested if it works as expected but I'd expect it
to work.

-- 
andreas


Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-16 Thread O. STeffen BEYer
Just an intermediate update:

Some of the test reports I sent yesterday night are already visible, others
not (why?).

In particular, I sent:

# Generated by CPAN::Reporter 1.1708
test PASS Carp-Clan-6.00 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Bit-Vector-7.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Data-Locations-5.5 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Math-MatrixBool-5.8 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Set-IntRange-5.2 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1

Of these, the following are visible:

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5607338.html(Date::Calc
6.0) - also in
[ Perl/Platform Version
Matrixhttp://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Date-Calc+6.0 ]

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5607375.html(Date::Calc
6.1)

Note that these are THE ONLY ONES AT ALL I could find. The ones from more
than a week ago have never appeared!

Something is eating our data!

Certainly, if the software was able to extract the Perl version from the two
reports above, then it should have been able to do so also on the others -
presuming that the other reports would not be any different in that respect,
coming from exactly the same Perl, the same CPAN::Reporter, and the very
same CPAN.pm session!

Regards  have a nice weekend!
Steffen


2009/10/16 Slaven Rezic sla...@rezic.de

 Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk writes:

  On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:32:57PM -0400, M W487 wrote:
  Basically at random, I decided to track some reports I have sent and
  see how they turn up.  Most look good.  Here is a possible problem:
 
 
 http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5477314.html
 
  tested a cygwin platform for perl 5.8.8 on Oct 3 which does not show
  in the cygwin column of the chart at
 
  http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=DBIx-Class+0.08112
 
  Note that the matrix and the main reports site are two different
  systems. Although Slaven uses the feeds from the reports site. However,
  the report you mention is on the reports site and is in the DB. The only
  oddity, which might cause it to not appear in the matrix listing, is
  that it has a perl version of 0.

 Yes, this is very probably the case. I filter out every record with a
 zero perl version or os name.

  This is due to the automated process
  not being able to extract the perl version from the report itself.

 Regards,
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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-16 Thread Barbie
Hi Steffen,

 Just an intermediate update:
 
 Some of the test reports I sent yesterday night are already visible, others
 not (why?).
 
 In particular, I sent:
 
 # Generated by CPAN::Reporter 1.1708
 test PASS Carp-Clan-6.00 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
 test PASS Bit-Vector-7.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
 test PASS Date-Calc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
 test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
 test PASS Data-Locations-5.5 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
 test PASS Math-MatrixBool-5.8 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
 test PASS Set-IntRange-5.2 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
 test PASS Date-Calc-6.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
 test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1

All these are in the system. However, as mentioned previously, it can
take several days for some pages to be updated.

 Certainly, if the software was able to extract the Perl version from
 the two reports above, then it should have been able to do so also on
 the others - presuming that the other reports would not be any
 different in that respect, coming from exactly the same Perl, the
 same CPAN::Reporter, and the very same CPAN.pm session!

Not necessarily. If the report exceeds the byte limit it gets truncated.
All the perl -V data is at the end, which is the primary source of
discovery for the perl version. Note this is a limit of the NNTP mail
server, and one reason why we want to move to a HTTP submission based
system.

When I get free time, I go through the oddities and try and improve the
regex or hand edit the version if I can. But it's time consuming :)

Cheers,
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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-16 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk wrote:
 Not necessarily. If the report exceeds the byte limit it gets truncated.
 All the perl -V data is at the end, which is the primary source of
 discovery for the perl version. Note this is a limit of the NNTP mail
 server, and one reason why we want to move to a HTTP submission based
 system.

That shouldn't be an issue with CPAN::Reporter based submissions, as
long as it and Test::Reporter are up to date.  CPAN::Reporter
truncates test output (*not* Perl -V) to fit within the perl.org size
cutoff and it now properly encodes/wraps long lines to avoid exceeding
SMTP line length limits that were causing truncations and other
problems.

Do you have any recent examples?

-- David


Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-16 Thread Barbie
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48:49AM -0400, David Golden wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk wrote:
  Not necessarily. If the report exceeds the byte limit it gets truncated.
  All the perl -V data is at the end, which is the primary source of
  discovery for the perl version. Note this is a limit of the NNTP mail
  server, and one reason why we want to move to a HTTP submission based
  system.
 
 That shouldn't be an issue with CPAN::Reporter based submissions, as
 long as it and Test::Reporter are up to date.  CPAN::Reporter
 truncates test output (*not* Perl -V) to fit within the perl.org size
 cutoff and it now properly encodes/wraps long lines to avoid exceeding
 SMTP line length limits that were causing truncations and other
 problems.
 
 Do you have any recent examples?

Yes, but I didn't want to name names, hence my other post :)

However, I also note that I don't have the latest version of
CPAN-Testers-Common-Article on the server, github or CPAN :( I shall fix
that over the weekend, as that does do some additional detection work if
perl -V isn't found.

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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-16 Thread O. STeffen BEYer
So this means that truncation cannot explain why almost all of my test
reports from last week disappeared:
I installed Test::Reporter and CPAN::Reporter only days before sending, so
they should be up to date.
But maybe perl.org's blackhole really was the cause.

 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk wrote:
   Not necessarily. If the report exceeds the byte limit it gets
 truncated.
   All the perl -V data is at the end, which is the primary source of
   discovery for the perl version. Note this is a limit of the NNTP mail
   server, and one reason why we want to move to a HTTP submission based
   system.



 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48:49AM -0400, David Golden wrote:
  That shouldn't be an issue with CPAN::Reporter based submissions, as
  long as it and Test::Reporter are up to date.  CPAN::Reporter
  truncates test output (*not* Perl -V) to fit within the perl.org size
  cutoff and it now properly encodes/wraps long lines to avoid exceeding
  SMTP line length limits that were causing truncations and other
  problems.
  Do you have any recent examples?


2009/10/16 Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk

 Yes, but I didn't want to name names, hence my other post :)
 However, I also note that I don't have the latest version of
 CPAN-Testers-Common-Article on the server, github or CPAN :( I shall fix
 that over the weekend, as that does do some additional detection work if
 perl -V isn't found.
 Cheers,
 Barbie.



Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM, O. STeffen BEYer ost...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 I have recently installed CPAN::Reporter - after some difficulties, because
 of wrong file permissions in this distribution, but that's a different story
 (I already informed David Golden about it).

See my other response.  :-)

 I am currently installing lots of modules under Perl 5.10.1 (native build
 for Windows XP with MS VC++ 6.0), mostly through installing Bundles.

 How come that the test reports sent by CPAN.pm from my machine never show up
 in the Perl/Platform Version Matrix of the corresponding modules?


 From 9 reports sent according to reports-sent.db in a test run, only two
 showed up on the server, namely for Inline-0.45 and YAML-Syck-1.07.

Can you send the report ID's for those 2 reports so we can see your
configuration?  And what are some modules have you tested?  (Be aware
there can be a multi-day delay before reports appear on the website.)

 When I subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list, I didn't get any
 welcome email back after I sent the confirmation email.

 Is that normal, or could that be the problem?

 If so, why was my confirmation email disregarded? (Never got any error
 message email either)

It's possibly your emails are or were being flagged as spam for some
reason.  There was a recent hiccup at the Perl NOC that flagged lots
of things as spam unintentionally:
http://log.perl.org/2009/10/blackholes.html

That could be related.

-- David


Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread Chris Marshall

Hi-this may be a related issue.

Two modules I have been working with recently, PDL and
OpenGL, seem to have very few testing hits since the end
of August except for the ones generated by our own
developers and testers.

This has been particularly frustrating as we get down to
the finish for a new PDL release (and accompanying OpenGL)
since the test reports for multiple OSes which used to
come in seem to have vanished.  Bugs from the previous
tester results have been addressed but without those
platform tests, we have no way to know if that has fixed
things.

* How can I determine the testers events for a given module?

  * By date (Is the rate of testing consistent over time?)

  * By tester ID (Some of the old stand-bys for testing PDL
and OpenGL, no longer show.  Are PDL and OpenGL out of the
rotation or is there something broken somewhere?)

* Is there any way too access any regularly updated feed of
  tester results?

  * When the cpan-testers list had email to authors, it was
easy to track anomalies since a systematic problem would
change the character and pace of tester reports received

  * I guess I could try setting up a mysql server and try
downloading the entire database but that seems like a
sort of nuclear option.

* Does it matter whether a module is released by the Owner
  or a Co-maintainer for CPAN Tester to work?

* One other thing I am trying to work through is some sort
  of quick set up info for CPAN::Reporter or Test::Reporter
  so that it works.  My own experience is that the perl of
  both modules works well, the sticking point for me is how
  to set up the mail feed---especially since most ISP and
  mail providers have moved to TLS type security which is
  tricky to configure.  (e.g. I have a gmail account and
  have yet to succeed in sending a test report through
  that channel)

Thoughts appreciated!
Chris Marshall
(PDL and OpenGL developer)





O. STeffen BEYer wrote:

Dear All,

I have recently installed CPAN::Reporter - after some difficulties, 
because of wrong file permissions in this distribution, but that's a 
different story (I already informed David Golden about it).


I am currently installing lots of modules under Perl 5.10.1 (native 
build for Windows XP with MS VC++ 6.0), mostly through installing Bundles.


How come that the test reports sent by CPAN.pm from my machine never 
show up in the Perl/Platform Version Matrix of the corresponding modules?


 From 9 reports sent according to reports-sent.db in a test run, only 
two showed up on the server, namely for Inline-0.45 and YAML-Syck-1.07.


Or is it because test reports from module authors for their own modules 
are filtered out? (Not according to my preferences, at least!)


Neither do I see any of these test reports on two separate email 
accounts which I both subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list.


Is that normally the case?

When I subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list, I didn't get any 
welcome email back after I sent the confirmation email.


Is that normal, or could that be the problem?

If so, why was my confirmation email disregarded? (Never got any error 
message email either)


I am attaching the relevant config files from CPAN and CPAN::Reporter 
(as well as my perl -V output).


Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Best regards,
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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread O. STeffen BEYer
Hello David,

thank you very much for your immediate reply!

Ralf Engelschall (of mod_rewrite fame, among other famous projects) uses a
very strict spamfilter on his machine (on which I get my emails to
s...@engelschall.com),
in which even Google mail is blacklisted as a spammer (can you imagine)!
That's probably why your email was rejected.
For the same reason I have already changed the email address in all of my
modules and on CPAN from s...@engelschall.com to st...@cpan.org.
The latter forwards all emails to s...@engelschall.com, but this works because
cpan.org is not blacklisted as a spammer (yet?!).
And anyhow, in this way I can easily change the email address
st...@cpan.orgis forwarding to, in case of need, without the users
even needing to know.

The two reports from me which actually show on the server are the following:

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5520288.html
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5525770.html

My configuration (perl -V) was also in the attachment CPAN-Testers.tar.gz
in my previous email.
As is a list of test reports (reports-sent.db from CPAN::Reporter) which
were definitely sent.

BTW, I am aware of the time lag between sending a report and the moment it
is reflected on the server.
But my reports are now over a week old, and still nothing (I checked again
today)!

Interestingly, I found my name among the statistics on the server:

http://stats.cpantesters.org/mtesters.html (search for kabelfoon in the
table and you'll find me)

So it seems that the server does indeed know me (and the email address 
sbe...@kabelfoon.nl I am sending my test reports from, which is from my
provider, which provides me with the SMTP-server necessary to send the
reports).

This apparent contradiction mystifies me!

But yes, maybe the black hole on www.perl.org caused my reports to be
dropped.
That would explain it.

Since this black hole is now supposedly fixed, I will try to re-run some
builds tonight, and we'll see what happens!

In any case, thanks a lot for your support!

Best regards,
Steffen


2009/10/15 David Golden xda...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM, O. STeffen BEYer ost...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dear All,
 
  I have recently installed CPAN::Reporter - after some difficulties,
 because
  of wrong file permissions in this distribution, but that's a different
 story
  (I already informed David Golden about it).

 See my other response.  :-)

  I am currently installing lots of modules under Perl 5.10.1 (native build
  for Windows XP with MS VC++ 6.0), mostly through installing Bundles.
 
  How come that the test reports sent by CPAN.pm from my machine never show
 up
  in the Perl/Platform Version Matrix of the corresponding modules?
 
 
  From 9 reports sent according to reports-sent.db in a test run, only
 two
  showed up on the server, namely for Inline-0.45 and YAML-Syck-1.07.

 Can you send the report ID's for those 2 reports so we can see your
 configuration?  And what are some modules have you tested?  (Be aware
 there can be a multi-day delay before reports appear on the website.)

  When I subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list, I didn't get any
  welcome email back after I sent the confirmation email.
 
  Is that normal, or could that be the problem?
 
  If so, why was my confirmation email disregarded? (Never got any error
  message email either)

 It's possibly your emails are or were being flagged as spam for some
 reason.  There was a recent hiccup at the Perl NOC that flagged lots
 of things as spam unintentionally:
 http://log.perl.org/2009/10/blackholes.html

 That could be related.

 -- David



Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread O. STeffen BEYer
Hi Barbie,

with [1], did you mean this table?

StatusMANAGEABLE Time of oldest page request2009-10-10 14:11:09 Total page
requests33597 Total unique page requests11513
If so, then it is absolutely not self-evident from the name Time of oldest
page request that this is the NEWEST test report reflected in the tables on
the server, meaning that all test reports younger than that date are not
shown yet (if I understood it right that this is what you meant).

Concerning the 5 day delay; if I am not horribly mistaken, my test reports
are over a week old (from 7th October 2009)!

# Generated by CPAN::Reporter 1.1708
test PASS Inline-0.45 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS YAML-Syck-1.07 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Carp-Clan-6.00 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Bit-Vector-7.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Data-Locations-5.5 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Math-MatrixBool-5.8 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Set-IntRange-5.2 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1

Thank you very much for your help!

Best regards,
Steffen


2009/10/15 Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk

 Hi,

  How come that the test reports sent by CPAN.pm from my machine never
  show up in the Perl/Platform Version Matrix of the corresponding
  modules?

 When did you submit the reports? If you look at the status grid on the
 home page of the CPAN Testers Reports website [1], it has a date which
 is the oldest request in the system that hasn't been processed.

 As the site can take over 5 days to do a complete rebuild, it isn't
 unusual for some pages to not appear for several days, particularly if
 it is for a distribution that is not as popular as others.

 If after 5 days you still haven't seen the reports listed, send me an
 email with the IDs and I'll investigate.

 [1] http://www.cpantesters.org

  Or is it because test reports from module authors for their own
  modules are filtered out?

 No module author has the ability to filter any reports from the system.

  Neither do I see any of these test reports on two separate email
  accounts which I both subscribed to the cpan-testers mailing list.

 The cpan-testers mailing is unattended, and you no longer need to
 subscribe to the list as everyone can post to the list. As such if you
 do not receive an error message, then you have been subscribe
 successfully. The mailing list is now just a post only interface to the
 NNTP list.

 Hope that helps.

 Cheers,
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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread Barbie
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 02:50:02PM +0200, O. STeffen BEYer wrote:
 Hi Barbie,
 
 with [1], did you mean this table?
 
 StatusMANAGEABLE Time of oldest page request2009-10-10 14:11:09 Total page
 requests33597 Total unique page requests11513
 If so, then it is absolutely not self-evident from the name Time of oldest
 page request that this is the NEWEST test report reflected in the tables on
 the server, meaning that all test reports younger than that date are not
 shown yet (if I understood it right that this is what you meant).

That is not what it means.

The date refers to the oldest unprocessed request to update a page
(AUTHOR or DISTRO) on the reports website. There could be high profile
pages or pages with lots of reports submitted that get rebuilt
frequently, thus meaning some reports can hit the server and appear on a
page within the hour. Others may take several days to get updated.

 Concerning the 5 day delay; if I am not horribly mistaken, my test reports
 are over a week old (from 7th October 2009)!

In that case they may not have got into the system for some reason. I
shall investigate further later this evening.

Cheers,
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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 08:14:50AM -0400, Chris Marshall wrote:

 Two modules I have been working with recently, PDL and
 OpenGL, seem to have very few testing hits since the end
 of August except for the ones generated by our own
 developers and testers.

OpenGL relies on libraries that probably won't be installed on dedicated
testing machines.

And then the latest dev release of PDL says ...

  Automated testing environment: enabling WITH_BADVAL, BADVAL_PER_PDL, and
USE_POGL config options
  DEPENDENCY ERROR: USE_POGL requires at least use OpenGL-0.58_007! at
Makefile.PL line 398.

 * How can I determine the testers events for a given module?

If you wait a few days, tests should appear at cpantesters.org.

   * By tester ID (Some of the old stand-bys for testing PDL
 and OpenGL, no longer show.  Are PDL and OpenGL out of the
 rotation or is there something broken somewhere?)

There's no official rotation - individual testers test whatever they
want to test.  The most prolific ones test *everything* that gets
uploaded to the CPAN, in something approximating the order they're
uploaded and in something approximating real time.

 * Is there any way too access any regularly updated feed of
   tester results?

There's the NNTP archive.  Not sure if you can actually speak NNTP to it
and get a feed per se.

 * Does it matter whether a module is released by the Owner
   or a Co-maintainer for CPAN Tester to work?

No.

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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:49 AM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote:
 * Is there any way too access any regularly updated feed of
   tester results?

 There's the NNTP archive.  Not sure if you can actually speak NNTP to it
 and get a feed per se.

See http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?cpantest-remailer

It's a program that will monitor the NNTP group and email reports to
you.  Or you can adapt the guts to notify you in other ways.

David


Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread Chris 'BinGOs' Williams
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:56:20AM -0400, David Golden wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:49 AM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk 
 wrote:
  * Is there any way too access any regularly updated feed of
  ?? tester results?
 
  There's the NNTP archive. ??Not sure if you can actually speak NNTP to it
  and get a feed per se.
 
 See http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?cpantest-remailer
 
 It's a program that will monitor the NNTP group and email reports to
 you.  Or you can adapt the guts to notify you in other ways.
 

Or if one is on irc.perl.org IRC network join #cpantesters channel
where one of the GumbyNET bots is streaming realtime updates from
the NNTP group.

Cheers.

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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread Barbie
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:32:57PM -0400, M W487 wrote:
 Basically at random, I decided to track some reports I have sent and
 see how they turn up.  Most look good.  Here is a possible problem:
 
 http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5477314.html
 
 tested a cygwin platform for perl 5.8.8 on Oct 3 which does not show
 in the cygwin column of the chart at
 
 http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=DBIx-Class+0.08112

Note that the matrix and the main reports site are two different
systems. Although Slaven uses the feeds from the reports site. However,
the report you mention is on the reports site and is in the DB. The only
oddity, which might cause it to not appear in the matrix listing, is
that it has a perl version of 0. This is due to the automated process
not being able to extract the perl version from the report itself.

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Re: I see only two CPAN-Testers reports on the server from the many I have sent - what is wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread O. STeffen BEYer
2009/10/16 Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk

 Hi Steffen,

  http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5520288.html
  http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/10/msg5525770.html

 The two above are the only ones in the system you've submit for the
 MSWin32 platform, but there are 157 others that are for FreeBSD. Would
 that be correct?

 If the others you've highlighted are also for MSWin32, they don't appear
 to have been listed within the NNTP listings. I guess the mails must
 have got blocked.

 The ones I've highlighted were indeed from the MSWin32 platform.

As an aside, it is true that I have also sent loads of reports from FreeBSD.

I have resent those from the MSWin32 platform yesterday evening:

# Generated by CPAN::Reporter 1.1708
test PASS Carp-Clan-6.00 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Bit-Vector-7.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Pcalc-6.0 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Data-Locations-5.5 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Math-MatrixBool-5.8 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Set-IntRange-5.2 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1
test PASS Date-Calc-6.1 (perl-5.10.1) MSWin32-x86-multi-thread 5.1

Let's see what happens with them now.

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