Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Christine Cé
Thanks to everyone who responded.

I still have the problem though... :-(

I hope someone can help! :-)

To remind you: on this page:
http://tinyurl.com/9me7n*
http://www.eastlondonprintmakers.co.uk/beta/artists.htm
the left border of the content div is broken in IE, and when scrolling up
and down, further bits of the border disappear.

I have a similar border on this page:
http://tinyurl.com/cxr4x
http://www.eastlondonprintmakers.co.uk/beta/alcock/1.htm
but there is no problem with this border in IE.

I have checked paddings and margins on the thumbnail divs and it seems fine,
no overlapping.

It's really puzzling me, I have been on it for days now with no progress.
Is it something to do with IE, and therefore, something I can't do anything
about, or something to do with my code and I'm not seeing?

Thank you all in advance.

Christine
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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Ovenden
Just (re)joined the group, so apologies if this has been said before,
but it looks to me like a manifestation of the peekaboo bug. The
broken-upness changes as you scroll... However, I just tried it in IE7
b2 and the same thing is happening - and that bug is meant to have
been fixed.

Chris

On 1/24/06, Christine Cé [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to everyone who responded.

 I still have the problem though... :-(

 I hope someone can help! :-)

 To remind you: on this page:
 http://tinyurl.com/9me7n*
 http://www.eastlondonprintmakers.co.uk/beta/artists.htm
 the left border of the content div is broken in IE, and when scrolling up
 and down, further bits of the border disappear.

 I have a similar border on this page:
 http://tinyurl.com/cxr4x
 http://www.eastlondonprintmakers.co.uk/beta/alcock/1.htm
 but there is no problem with this border in IE.

 I have checked paddings and margins on the thumbnail divs and it seems fine,
 no overlapping.

 It's really puzzling me, I have been on it for days now with no progress.
 Is it something to do with IE, and therefore, something I can't do anything
 about, or something to do with my code and I'm not seeing?

 Thank you all in advance.

 Christine
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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Bruno Fassino
Christine Cé wrote:

 To remind you: on this page:
 http://tinyurl.com/9me7n*
 http://www.eastlondonprintmakers.co.uk/beta/artists.htm
 the left border of the content div is broken in IE, and when scrolling up
 and down, further bits of the border disappear.

Such instabilities in IE can frequently be cured giving hasLayout to some
containers [1].
In your case I would give it to your #content div, via something like:
* html #content { height: 0 }
or better via conditional comments (once you have determined if this is the
cause of your problem, then you may choose your preferred method to give
layout.)

hth,
Bruno

[1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html

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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Christine Cé
Thanks Chris.  Not much I can do about it then if it's an IE bug!  But then
what I don't understand is why it happens on some pages but not others???

Christine

On 1/24/06, Chris Ovenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just (re)joined the group, so apologies if this has been said before,
 but it looks to me like a manifestation of the peekaboo bug. The
 broken-upness changes as you scroll... However, I just tried it in IE7
 b2 and the same thing is happening - and that bug is meant to have
 been fixed.


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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Holly Bergevin

From: Christine Cé [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://tinyurl.com/9me7n*
http://www.eastlondonprintmakers.co.uk/beta/artists.htm
the left border of the content div is broken in IE, and when scrolling up
and down, further bits of the border disappear.

adding {position: relative;} to div#content will likely kill it.

~holly 
 
   

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Re: [css-d] Is there a good Safari emulator for WinXP?

2006-01-24 Thread James Rankin
Hi there Tony,

 There's actually a Safari browser test page over at
SafariTest:

 http://snugtech.com/en/safaritest

 I've sometimes used this meself even though I'm a mac
user and
only have access to Mac OS 9x type of browsers.


James Rankin
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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Christine Cé
On 1/24/06, Holly Bergevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 adding {position: relative;} to div#content will likely kill it.

 ~holly



Yesss! you were right it has!  Thank you thank you thank you :-)

Thanks also to everyone who tried to help.

Christine
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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Christine Cé
Thanks Bruno, I will investigate.

Christine

On 1/24/06, Bruno Fassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Such instabilities in IE can frequently be cured giving hasLayout to
 some
 containers [1].
 In your case I would give it to your #content div, via something like:
 * html #content { height: 0 }
 or better via conditional comments (once you have determined if this is
 the
 cause of your problem, then you may choose your preferred method to give
 layout.)

 hth,
 Bruno

 [1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html


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Re: [css-d] Organizing CSS

2006-01-24 Thread jesse
Of course there's no one-right-way to do this, but here's what I would
 suggest. Have one master CSS file, say style.css, that every page
 references. Inside the style.css, put everything that is common across
 all brandings. You may even want to put the default branding in this
 file. Then, at the end of the file, put:

@include green.css;

 You have just violated the CSS Specification, and compliant browsers
 are therefore free to ignore green.css. [1]  Included CSS files must
 come at the beginning of a stylesheet, before any property/value
 declarations, not at the end.  If you import *all* of your styles, as
 someone else suggested, then this method could work.  However, if you
 have any direct declarations in the stylesheet, the import statement
 must precede them.

 1. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#at-rules

Oops, thanks for the correction. In that case, Bill will definitely want
to put just imports in style.css, so that the branding style sheet is able
to override the default styles.

Either that, or struggle to ensure the specificity of rules in the
branding style sheet is stronger. I'd definitely prefer the
multiple-imports method, though.

Jesse


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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Martin Heiden
Chris,

on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 at 15:13 Chris Ovenden wrote:

 However, I just tried it in IE7 b2 and the same thing is happening -
 and that bug is meant to have been fixed.

How could you do this? AFAIK IE7b2 isn't out yet, just beta1 and AFAIR
in b1 the peek-a-boo bug is still alive...

regards

  Martin

 



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Re: [css-d] Having a width and min-width in IE

2006-01-24 Thread cj
On 1/18/06, Jonathan Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've seen people use the IE min-width hack, but I'm wondering if it's
 possible to have a percentage width, and a static min-width:

 #Container
 {
 width: 70%;
 min-width: 600px;
 }

 That way when the user's browser grows the container will grow, but when
 the browser shortens, the container will never get any smaller than 600px.

 This obviously works in FF, but I'm not sure if that's possible to do in
 IE. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

have you tried the expression ie property-thing?  lol.  i don't
even know what to really call it.  these two links will give you a
better idea:

http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/44263

http://www.svendtofte.com/code/max_width_in_ie/


basically what it does it tells ie to use some javascript inside your
css file.  it's not a clean solution, but it works great for me, at
least.  i've found i can't get *too* picky when getting ie to behave.
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[css-d] RH column drops down in IE6/Win

2006-01-24 Thread 2geedesign
Hi

Website link is http://www.debbiejoynes.co.uk/about.html
CSS link is http://www.debbiejoynes.co.uk/stylesheets/main-style.css

This layout is a 2 column liquid layout using percentage widths (taken from Dan 
Cederholm's book Bulletproof Web Design)
A strange thing is happening on two of my colleagues computers when they open 
up this page with the browser window in the restore down position. The RH 
navigation column has dropped down and starts after the main content text 
finishes. If you then click on the maximise button the navigation column 
jumps back up into the correct position. If you then press the restore down 
button the layout remains intact. They are running IE6/Win (V6.0.2900.2180). I 
can't reproduce this problem on my computer (I'm running IE6/Win - 
ver6.0.2800.1106).
Any reasons as to why this is happening and how to fix it would be much 
appreciated.

Thanks
Ian
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Re: [css-d] Horizontally scrolling pane pain

2006-01-24 Thread cj
 If you look at the accompanying css file (test.css) you will see
 that I've got it working by adding:
 width: 2000px ;
 to the #picturecontainer div. Clearly as more (or less) pictures are
 in the pane the width will change, and the width of the
 picturecontainer div should adjust automatically so that the
 scrollbar underneath also adjusts itself too.

have you found a solution for this by chance?  it looked like a really
cool idea and i was looking forward to seeing a working example.
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[css-d] Float breaking on page

2006-01-24 Thread Michelle W
Hello,

I could use some perspective.

I have the same 3 column pages for my site, but on the top12 page the div
id=rightcolumn with the book link breaks to the bottom middle of the
page.
http://www.thetravelingmarathoner.com/test/top121.html

The other pages with the same css work ok.?
http://www.thetravelingmarathoner.com/test/index.html

Also
I can't figure out to get rid of the extra space to the right of the list
items in the bottom top 12 links list in the ul id=tablist.

Any suggestions or bugs I haven't noticed, very appreciated.
--
Thank you,

Michelle
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[css-d] Float issue with Firefox and IE

2006-01-24 Thread Erik Domingo
Hi all,

I'm in need of some help. At
http://postureworks.bluelangroup.net/Customers_CaseStudies2.php, you can see
I've used a table in the top part of the center column to display content.
This table (contained with the #main element) is floated right. The problem
is that Firefox displays the table to the right of the #submenu div (also
floated in the #main container), while IE displays it below #submenu (which
is what I want).

When I use the clear: property on #submenu, both browsers clear not only the
submenu div, but also the navbar element on the left of the page. Visually,
this means the table in the center column starts vertically below the nav
bar (not so good). I know this is correct per the CSS2 specs, but it won't
work :(

I realize I made a mistake designing for IE, then trying to make it work for
FF (always go standards-compliant first!). However, at this point I just
want to get the page working properly in both browsers so I can publish the
site. Any suggestions for (relatively-quick) fixes?

Thanks in advance :-)
Erik

PS The CSS is at http://postureworks.bluelangroup.net/PWStyle_v3.css
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Re: [css-d] Float breaking on page

2006-01-24 Thread cj
 I could use some perspective.

 I have the same 3 column pages for my site, but on the top12 page the div
 id=rightcolumn with the book link breaks to the bottom middle of the
 page.
 http://www.thetravelingmarathoner.com/test/top121.html

 The other pages with the same css work ok.?
 http://www.thetravelingmarathoner.com/test/index.html

 Also
 I can't figure out to get rid of the extra space to the right of the list
 items in the bottom top 12 links list in the ul id=tablist.

 Any suggestions or bugs I haven't noticed, very appreciated.

i might be completely reading this page wrong, but it doesn't look to
me like your right hand column is inside your column wrapper.
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[css-d] Frames CSS layout

2006-01-24 Thread Richard Brown
Hi Guys

I have been trying to use a frames technique on this site and I cannot 
get it working!

The url is http://www.uzellacourtantiques.co.uk/aaa/ with css embeded.

How do I get the content text to scroll please?

Many thanks.
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Re: [css-d] div align=center

2006-01-24 Thread Paul Kahl
Also how do I align content center with div tags. I am trying not to 
use any tables. All I want is my navBar to align center on the page.
It doesn't work with text-align or 
margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto; or align=center in the div 
tag. I can center using a table but I don't wnat to use any tables.

There's also (in addition to the many fine examples already cited) a nifty
way to do this with percentages that amazingly, I haven't seen in any
response thus far:

div.parent {width: 100%; text-align: center;}
div.child {width: 80%;}

div class=parent
div class=child
content
/div
/div

This will set the initial div at full window width, and the child will be
centered and take up 80% of the page. Or even a pixel/em dimmension instead
of the 80%. It's a bit of a hack, but works beautifully.

Paul Kahl
Web Developer 
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[css-d] IE font size problems

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew

Hi,

I'm getting reports that some installations of IE are rendering the font 
size in the title of this site, much, much larger than it is supposed to 
(pushing itself down over the menu). Yet all my testing, including 
browsercam, show me no problem.

The site is at: http://205.150.110.77

I'm sizing via em, and setting body size to 100% (html  body 16px for 
gecko).

Can anyone replicate this issue - and are there any obvious candidate 
explanations?

Thanks!
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Re: [css-d] IE font size problems

2006-01-24 Thread Emma Sax
Andrew wrote:

I'm getting reports that some installations of IE are rendering the font 
size in the title of this site, much, much larger than it is supposed to 
(pushing itself down over the menu). Yet all my testing, including 
browsercam, show me no problem.

The site is at: http://205.150.110.77

Can anyone replicate this issue - and are there any obvious candidate 
explanations?
  

I had problems when resizing the font *smaller* therefore decreasing the 
height of the title band.  The logo appears to have a fixed height and 
so creeps over the band as it doesn't shrink along with the rest of the 
text.

Emma
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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Daniel C. Jallits
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Re: [css-d] Frames CSS layout

2006-01-24 Thread bill
Hi Rich,

If you give your #content a height: foo, that should do it. You'll have to
play with the actual height to get the effect you want. For instance, in FF
on my xp2 I declared a height of 325px and it filled the space you allotted,
but this will vary wildly.

HTH,
Bill

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:44 AM
To: CSS List
Subject: [css-d] Frames CSS layout

Hi Guys

I have been trying to use a frames technique on this site and I cannot 
get it working!

The url is http://www.uzellacourtantiques.co.uk/aaa/ with css embeded.

How do I get the content text to scroll please?

Many thanks.
-- 
Rich
http://www.cregy.co.uk
Embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can do for him. 
Romans 12 v 1

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Re: [css-d] Float issue with Firefox and IE

2006-01-24 Thread Bryce Fields
On 1/24/06, Erik Domingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm in need of some help. At
 http://postureworks.bluelangroup.net/Customers_CaseStudies2.php, you can see
 I've used a table in the top part of the center column to display content.
 This table (contained with the #main element) is floated right. The problem
 is that Firefox displays the table to the right of the #submenu div (also
 floated in the #main container), while IE displays it below #submenu (which
 is what I want).

 When I use the clear: property on #submenu, both browsers clear not only the
 submenu div, but also the navbar element on the left of the page. Visually,
 this means the table in the center column starts vertically below the nav
 bar (not so good). I know this is correct per the CSS2 specs, but it won't
 work :(

Erik,

When I edit the CSS via the web developer extension for Firefox and
add clear:left; to  #submenu, I'm not seeing the left nav clear as
you describe.


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Re: [css-d] Float issue with Firefox and IE

2006-01-24 Thread Erik Domingo
My apologies  - I had left the CSS changed from one of my earlier attempts
to fix this. I've changed it back so that there is a reference to #main
table element. When that element is cleared:left, you can see the left nav
cleared in FF.

On 1/24/06, Bryce Fields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/24/06, Erik Domingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I'm in need of some help. At
  http://postureworks.bluelangroup.net/Customers_CaseStudies2.php, you can
 see
  I've used a table in the top part of the center column to display
 content.
  This table (contained with the #main element) is floated right. The
 problem
  is that Firefox displays the table to the right of the #submenu div
 (also
  floated in the #main container), while IE displays it below #submenu
 (which
  is what I want).
 
  When I use the clear: property on #submenu, both browsers clear not only
 the
  submenu div, but also the navbar element on the left of the page.
 Visually,
  this means the table in the center column starts vertically below the
 nav
  bar (not so good). I know this is correct per the CSS2 specs, but it
 won't
  work :(

 Erik,

 When I edit the CSS via the web developer extension for Firefox and
 add clear:left; to  #submenu, I'm not seeing the left nav clear as
 you describe.


 --
 Bryce Fields
 www.royalrodent.com

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Re: [css-d] Broken border in IE and Mac browser check

2006-01-24 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
 Regarding the following:
 How could you do this? AFAIK IE7b2 isn't out yet...

 I beg to differ
 http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/01/23/67996-windows-ie7-beta-leaked-14-new-screenshots

Forwarding a link to an invitation-only site isn't actually that
helpful... unless you were inviting us all? ;-)

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Re: [css-d] IE font size problems

2006-01-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andrew wrote:
 I'm getting reports that some installations of IE are rendering the 
 font size in the title of this site, much, much larger than it is 
 supposed to (pushing itself down over the menu). Yet all my testing,
  including browsercam, show me no problem.
 
 http://205.150.110.77

Try the accessibility option in IE/win - 'ignore font-sizes' - as
described here:
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_02.html#item3
...which will give you the over sized h1 which is overlapping the menu
- as reported.

All IE/win versions/installations have that option.

regards
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[css-d] float problem in IE v. FF

2006-01-24 Thread Marty Martin
As usual, my code works perfectly in FF but breaks in IE.  I know
that's a shocker to you-all.  Can someone point out what I need to do
to fix this?

I have the following code---

div id=header
div style=float: left;
img src=images/headers/winter_header.gif width=560 
height=150
alt=Roanoke Virginia Real Estate Listings //div
div style=background-color: #009ACF; height: 101px; width: 
100%;/div
/div

In FF the second div is moving up beside the first div as it should. 
In IE it isn't.

See here-- http://www.roanokehousehunter.com/

Help!!

marty
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Re: [css-d] How to hold a vertical browser space ?

2006-01-24 Thread cj
On 1/20/06, Reynier Perez Mira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi list:
 In a web page I'm programming I have a table and I need that this table hold 
 the vertical space in a browser. This is my CSS:

[long code cut out]

the code works just fine for me in both ff1.5 and ie6, though i didn't
experiment with doctypes, which could be your problem.  perhaps i'm
not understanding your problem?  the table fills the entire vertical
space of both browsers, even when i resize and maximize them.

if you're still having problems, a live site showing a page with the
problem you're describing helps immensely.
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[css-d] how to vertically align text?

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco
I have a UL defined like so:

ul.feeds {
  list-style-image:
url(../Images/NewBlack01/feed-icon-16x16.jpg);
  list-style-position: outside;
}

ul.feeds li {
  margin: 0 0 10px 25px;
}

The text inside the LI appears lower slightly lower
(almost subscripted) to the custom image.  We usd to
fix such things with vertical-align: middle; before
CSS.  How is this corrected now?

Francesco
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Re: [css-d] Floats Not Behaving in IE

2006-01-24 Thread cj
 Page:  
 http://www.springfieldmogov.org/egov/planning_development/planTest2.html
 CSS with the float rules in question:
 http://www.springfieldmogov.org/css/plan.css
 Additional CSS Page:  http://www.springfieldmogov.org/css/pw_oper.css

 Problem:  Three floated divs at page bottom should be side by side,
 which they are in Firefox on Mac and Safari on Mac.  But IE on PC puts
 the 3rd one onto a second line.

i'm looking at ie6 and i see all 3 columns behaving nicely from
resolutions 800x600 to 1600x1200.  did you get this problem fixed?

note that on both ff and ie at 800x600 i had horizontal scrolling due
to the header, menu, and footer line i think.  at least those parts
were the ones sticking out when i scrolled.  i didn't investigate
because i don't know if the page is still under development or just
branched off for float drop problem.
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[css-d] bugs on foxymcloud.com in firefox

2006-01-24 Thread Christian Montoya
The following site: http://www.foxymcloud.com is buggy in Firefox
1.07. I don't see these problems in Firefox 1.5.

The first problem is on initial page load the page is extremely
long... lots of empty space after the footer. Fixes itself on window
resize.

The second problem is the corners in the footer don't show up. I think
this also happens in IE but I'm not sure.

Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.

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Re: [css-d] Float breaking on page

2006-01-24 Thread Michelle W
On 1/24/06, cj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I could use some perspective.
 
  I have the same 3 column pages for my site, but on the top12 page the
 div
  id=rightcolumn with the book link breaks to the bottom middle of the
  page.
  http://www.thetravelingmarathoner.com/test/top121.html
 
  The other pages with the same css work ok.?
  http://www.thetravelingmarathoner.com/test/index.html
 
  Also
  I can't figure out to get rid of the extra space to the right of the
 list
  items in the bottom top 12 links list in the ul id=tablist.
 
  Any suggestions or bugs I haven't noticed, very appreciated.

 i might be completely reading this page wrong, but it doesn't look to
 me like your right hand column is inside your column wrapper.


That doesn't seem to be the issue.  i think it has something to do with the
ul id=tablist links, it work without them, but i can;t figure out why it
breaks the layout?!

thanks Michelle
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Re: [css-d] how to vertically align text?

2006-01-24 Thread Matthew Levine
On Jan 24, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Francesco wrote:

 The text inside the LI appears lower slightly lower
 (almost subscripted) to the custom image.  We usd to
 fix such things with vertical-align: middle; before
 CSS.  How is this corrected now?

Francesco,

This is often a headache for me, too. I'd play around with the  
padding, height, line-height, and vertical-align of the list items.   
However, I usually resort to adding a few rows of transparent pixels  
to the top of my bullet images.

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[css-d] Is redefining a property within CSS appropriate?

2006-01-24 Thread Peach Lynda L CTR USAF 96 CG/SCTA
The CSS Validator had this to say about the following bit of CSS:

  Property redefined. The shorthand property 'border' already defines
'border-top.'

CSS involved:

#sidebar{ 
  font: 80% Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
  float:right;
  width: 20%;
  border: 1px solid #036;
  border-top: none;
  padding-right: 10px;
}

But the above is exactly what I intended. Rather than put 
border-right: 1px solid #036; 
border-bottom: 1px solid #036;
border-left: 1px solid #036;

I thought it would make more sense to define all the borders then set
the border-top to none. 

Now it works -- but my question are -- Is redefining as I have done
above valid CSS? And is it -appropriate- CSS? 

I want this CSS to be clean as it can get.

My Thanks in advance.
Lynda Peach
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Re: [css-d] Is redefining a property within CSS appropriate?

2006-01-24 Thread Matthew Levine
On Jan 24, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Peach Lynda L CTR USAF 96 CG/SCTA wrote:

 I thought it would make more sense to define all the borders then set
 the border-top to none.

 Now it works -- but my question are -- Is redefining as I have done
 above valid CSS? And is it -appropriate- CSS?

Lynda,

I agree -- I think it does make more sense to define it your way.

What you've done is certainly *valid*. The validator just issues a  
*warning* to let you know that you might have unintentionally  
overridden a property.  No worries though: I think it's completely  
appropriate.

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Re: [css-d] Is redefining a property within CSS appropriate?

2006-01-24 Thread Jan Brasna
 Is redefining as I have done above valid CSS?

Yes.

 And is it -appropriate- CSS? 

Yes.

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[css-d] weird rendering problem in IE 6

2006-01-24 Thread Will Wyatt
Hi all. I'm trying to create the layout for a new site. I'm using the
wonderful Ruthsarian layouts (http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/).
So far, I'm only really trying to change one thing. I'm trying to add a
separate background color in the center column on my test layout site which
can be seen at http://willwyatt.com/test/index.html

I've added a div id=will.../div around the first 'post' on this page,
the one that says 'Minty Fresh Flavor!'. In the stylesheet I've added

#will {
 background-color: #333;c
}

For some reason, in IE 6 (and possibly other versions of IE, but 6 is the
only version I have to test) the background color only shows up when you
trigger one of the hovers on the page. LIke one of the links on the side or
one of the links in center column. The page works fine in FF. I'm obviously
stumped and appreciate any insights anyone else has. Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] weird rendering problem in IE 6

2006-01-24 Thread cj
i don't know a fix, but i can add more details from when i looked at
the page (ie6, winxp).

after a first page view of this page, a hover from me over any part of
the #will div brought the bg color up.  after a refresh, i had to
hover over a *link* to get any bg to show up, and then it only showed
up on that one line that the link was on.
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Re: [css-d] Frames CSS layout

2006-01-24 Thread Roger Roelofs
Richard,

On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Richard Brown wrote:

 I have been trying to use a frames technique on this site and I cannot
 get it working!

 The url is http://www.uzellacourtantiques.co.uk/aaa/ with css 
 embeded.

I'm not sure ie/win is up to this, but with a good browser you can do 
something like this.

#content {
position: absolute;
left: 26%;
right: 0;
top: 9.65em;
bottom: 6.2em;
overflow: auto;
}

Hope that gets the creative juices flowing...
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Re: [css-d] weird rendering problem in IE 6

2006-01-24 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Will Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://willwyatt.com/test/index.html

#will {
 background-color: #333;c
}

For some reason, in IE 6 the background color only shows up when you
trigger one of the hovers on the page. 

Add the following to your HTML page just before the close of the head element. 

!--[if IE]
style type=text/css
.inside {height: 1%;}
/style
![endif]--

IE needs layout [1] on .inside to prevent the problem.

~holly

[1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
 
 
   
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[css-d] Default font size frustration in IE 6

2006-01-24 Thread Bruce MacKay
Hi folks,

I've been teaching myself CSS - most recently via Dan Cederholm's 
book Bulletproof Web Design - and I'm having a strange problem with 
font sizing in IE6.

My test page (http://temporarius.massey.ac.nz/test6.asp) looks fine 
when I view it through FF, NS, Opera and IE6 on my development 
machine (XP, IIS 5.1) - the font size at the default settings for all 
the browsers is, for me, correct (how do I explain what correct looks like?!!)

However, when I shifted the test page onto my server, the fonts look 
one size too big in IE6 at its default text size of medium, while 
they continue to look correct in FF, NN, Opera and IE6.

I've even resorted to downloading Cederholm's CSS from his own site 
(www.simplebits.com) which looks fine in my IE6 browser at the 
default (medium) font size view, but when I load those CSS files onto 
my server, the font size looks one size too big again (and FF, NS, 
and Opera continue to show the right size). (And when I download 
the files onto my development machine, IE6 displays the font size correctly.

What am I missing here - what basic mistake am I making?

Thanks,

Bruce


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Re: [css-d] how to vertically align text?

2006-01-24 Thread Michael Hulse

On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Matthew Levine wrote:

 On Jan 24, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Francesco wrote:

 The text inside the LI appears lower slightly lower
 (almost subscripted) to the custom image.  We usd to
 fix such things with vertical-align: middle; before
 CSS.  How is this corrected now?

 Francesco,

 This is often a headache for me, too. I'd play around with the
 padding, height, line-height, and vertical-align of the list items.
 However, I usually resort to adding a few rows of transparent pixels
 to the top of my bullet images.

Or, you could play around with background positioning.

Example code:

/* For list items: */
ul.giveBull {
font: normal 1em Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
list-style: none;
}
ul.giveBull li {
padding: 0 0 5px 10px;
background: url(bullet.gif) no-repeat 0 .5em; /* Try 
percentages or 
pixels or whatever you want. Just make sure units are the same. */
}
/* End list item definitions */

Hth,
Micky

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[css-d] Page layout in a container

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Tuller
I am trying to design a page that has a set container that adjusts when
you change the size of the page. I am using float, and I am having a
problem where the background does not show up when you use a table.  
In my
case, for a form. Can someone explai to me why the background is not  
white
as I have set in the container? Why is it that if I change float to
relative for the form does the background then work? Below is the  
code. I
have replaced where I have images with colors so that you can see the
layout.


Thanks,

Mike


!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;

head
 title/title
 style type=text/css


 body
 {
 font-family: Lucida Grande, Tahoma,  
Verdana, Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;
 color: #555753;
 background: #505050;
 margin-top: 0px;
 }



 #container
 {
 width: 800px;
 background: white;
 margin: 0 auto;
 text-align: left;
 }

 #topbar
 {
 width: 800px;
 height: 90px;
 float: left;
 background: blue;
 }

 #menu_blank
 {
 width: 100px;
 height: 25px;
 float: left;
 background: orange;
 }

 #home_menu
 {
 width: 100px;
 height: 25px;
 float: left;
 background: yellow;
 }


 #mystory_menu
 {
 width: 100px;
 height: 25px;
 float: left;
 background: red;
 }

 #photoalbum_menu
 {
 width: 100px;
 height: 25px;
 float: left;
 background: green;

 }

 #journal_menu
 {
 width: 100px;
 height: 25px;
 float: left;
 background: cyan;
 }

 #table_placement
 {
 float: left;
 }

 .input-box
 {
 background: #F1F1F1;
 border: black solid 1px
 }

 /style
/head

body

div id=container

 div id=topbar
 /div

 div id=home_menu
 /div

 div id=mystory_menu
 /div

 div id=photoalbum_menu
 /div

 div id=journal_menu
 /div

 div id=menu_blank
 /div

 div id=menu_blank
 /div

 div id=menu_blank
 /div

 div id=menu_blank
 /div

 div id=table_placement

 table
 form id=journalEntry action=journalentry.php  
method=post
name=journalEntry
 tr
 td
 table
 tr
 tdh2Enter  
Journal Information/h2/td
 /tr
 /table
 table
 tr
 td  
valign=toplabel for=titleTitle:/label
 tdinput  
type=text name=title size=80 class=input-box //td
 /tr
 tr
 td  
valign=toplabel for=entryEntry:/label/td
 tdtextarea  
name=entry rows=20
cols=80class=input-box/textarea/td
 /tr
 tr
 td/td
 td align=rightinput  
type=submit name=submit value=Submit
Entry //td
 /tr
 /table
 /td
 /tr
 /form
 /table
 /div
/div
/body
/html
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Re: [css-d] Page layout in a container

2006-01-24 Thread Roger Roelofs
Mike,

On Jan 24, 2006, at 8:41 PM, Mike Tuller wrote:

 I am trying to design a page that has a set container that adjusts when
 you change the size of the page. I am using float, and I am having a
 problem where the background does not show up when you use a table.
 In my
 case, for a form. Can someone explai to me why the background is not
 white
 as I have set in the container? Why is it that if I change float to
 relative for the form does the background then work?

A url is much better than pasted in code.  In your case, I'm betting 
that everything in #container is floated.  When this is the case, 
#container no longer has any content, so it collapses to a hieght of 0, 
ergo, no background-color.  Either float the container or unfloat some 
of the contents.

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Re: [css-d] Default font size frustration in IE 6

2006-01-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Bruce MacKay wrote:
 http://temporarius.massey.ac.nz/test6.asp

 However, when I shifted the test page onto my server, the fonts look
  one size too big in IE6 at its default text size of medium, while
  they continue to look correct in FF, NN, Opera and IE6.

 What am I missing here - what basic mistake am I making?

This:

!--include file=myPWS.inc--

...on top in your source code makes IE6 go into quirks mode (as IE5).

However, IE6 isn't tricked by this:
body {
font-size: x-small; /* IE5 Win */
voice-family: \}\;
voice-family: inherit;
font-size: small;
}
...so IE6 will see 'small' and render it one size larger just like IE5
would - if it could see it.

That's a complicated way to say that...
1: you should clean up your source code and decide whether or not you
want to run IE6 in quirks mode, as anything above the DTD will make IE6
forget all about standard mode.

2: the 'voice-family' and the 'be nice to Opera' hacks should be
avoided, and a more bulletproof solution that doesn't use keywords
should be used instead. Percentages are better for font-size on body,
and even IE6 understands them.

regards
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[css-d] Tabs, Border and IE Windows

2006-01-24 Thread Yazmin Media
I'm trying to setup a horizontal tabbed layout that marks the tab that
corresponds to the currently displayed page. The tabs look as they should in
FF (win/mac) and Safari, but IE isn't recognizing that I am telling it to
make the bottom border on the active tab white. I can see that the problem
has to do with IE not lining up the bottom border the same the other
browsers, but I don't know how to solve this.

This is the page with the CSS included in it:

http://yazminmedia.com/playground/tabs.htm

Any suggestions?

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[css-d] float problem in FF

2006-01-24 Thread Theoracle9
hi,
I am a newbie. My css works in IE, but not FF. I tried using floats. Please help
thanks
http://www.badcreditdeleter.com

I validated the XHTML and CSS and it still does not work in Mozilla
thanks again

www.sharpindividuals.net
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[css-d] transparent background issue with IE

2006-01-24 Thread Stan Winchester
Using FF 1.5  NS 8 the div tag id outer I've set the background-color to
transparent it renders as I wanted, but in IE 6 shows the background black
(look under the FAQ button - My client insist on using the graphic button
menu). It seemed the black is coming from the color selector in the body
tag; if I change the body color to red it shows red, but if I change it to
transparent it shows black. I'm not sure what to do.

 

Here is html:

http://www.aftershockweb.net/bd/asian-herbs/test/ 

 

Here is the style sheet:

http://www.aftershockweb.net/bd/asian-herbs/test/assets/styles.css

 

Thank you,

Aftershock Web Design, Inc.

by: Stan Winchester

President/Developer

http://www.aftershockweb.com/   

 

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[css-d] alignment problem - Opera and Safari

2006-01-24 Thread Don Hinshaw
Hello all,
I am having problems with one element that I can't get to left align in 
Opera 8.5 (Win2K) and Safari 1.2+
The page is here: http://66.117.159.181/products_portfolios.php
The CSS is here: http://66.117.159.181/pkp_styles.css

The element in question is the title graphic (Portfolios of Notes) which 
should be left aligned with the list of products below (as it is in FF 
(Win and Mac) and IE).

I have text-align: center on the body to get IE to center the page, but 
text-align: left on the #wrap div to get IE to left-justify the contents.

I'd sure appreciate some help with this. I'm stumped!

Thanks!

Don Hinshaw
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[css-d] alignment problem - follow-up comment

2006-01-24 Thread Don Hinshaw
Hi list,
Regarding my previous post: I just found that if I floated the title 
image to the left #main img { float: left} and followed it with a 
clearing div the problem resolves itself.
However, (a) it seems like a rather inelegant solution, and (b) I don't 
exactly understand why it works...or rather why it wasn't working w/o 
that fix in Opera and Safari.

Thanks again,
Don Hinshaw
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[css-d] Liquid Box

2006-01-24 Thread Brian Ogden
I am trying to make a liquid box with four image corners and repeating images 
for the four sides. FF is being more cooperative then IE of course but both are 
confusing me.
If possible could I have a explanation along with the fix. 
I have added a border to the parent div tag for the floating
box for clarity. My style sheet is an available link on the page.

http://www.fistsagainsthunger.com/ExpoFAH06.aspx


Thanks in advance!

Quetion 1)
FF won't center even though my top div tag id=backGrnd contains a propert 
text-align:center but that does center it in IE. How do I center without using 
tables or should I just use a table. Is one so bad?

Question 2)
FF is putting an xtra side image after my right corner.

Question 3)
Why do I have to add four extta pixels to my middle-top
div tag class specifically for IE to bring my top side in line with the corners?

Question 4)
Why is my left corner image in the position that it is in IE?
I have to add like a -240px margin to get it to move right.

Question 5)
Why is my right corner in the position that it is in IE?

Thanks Again
Brian

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