Re: [css-d] Cross-browser problems with submit button/graphic

2011-06-16 Thread RePost

Philippe and Gail, thanks for your helpful suggestions.

Philippe's src="blank.gif" (using a blank image) worked for me. Solved 
the problems in both Safari and IE.


Gail, for some reason, the browser ignores any background-position 
instructions I use in the stylesheet. Further, Firebug shows a 
background position of "0 0" when I try to position a background image 
through the stylesheet. I have no idea why this occurs.


I resorted to positioning the image with style settings in the html. 
Since it works, I'll have to stick with it.


Thanks again.


On 6/16/11 7:32 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:

On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:27 AM, RePost wrote:


I'm using a css sprite image for the submit button in two forms on this site. 
It displays fine in Firefox, but not so well in Safari and IE.

Safari is displaying the text "Submit" in the area designated for the submit 
images. IE is just displaying the image oddly.

I've removed the "title" and "alt" portions of the submit button form text, so 
they look something like this:



Here's the site. Forms are at upper right: http://bit.ly/eYGXbo

Anything I can do to correct the problem?

Dunno about IE (haven't checked…). Safari is trying to be user friendly.
You don't have a 'src=""' for the image and the (required) alt attribute is missing; 
Safari then adds an alt attr. on its own (similarly as what it does when a input 
type="submit" is missing a value).

Either use a  or if you must use an  and have that 
:hover/:active dance, give it a 'src' to a blank, transparent image.
Anyway, not really a CSS issue.

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Re: [css-d] Dead zone beneath linked images

2011-04-21 Thread RePost
Actually, Philippe, it wasn't the horrid Facebook Like button/box at the 
top of the sidebar that was the culprit, but the horrid recurring 
Facebook Like/Recommend button in the metadata area beneath the headline 
of each entry in the content div.


This was a tough and exasperating bit of business. Thanks to all for 
your help -- Chetan, Claude, David, Philippe, et al!



On 4/21/11 2:57 AM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:

On Apr 21, 2011, at 3:56 PM, RePost wrote:


Not a div of devil-spawned images, but the Facebook Like Button From Hell. Firebug showed 
me code for the Like button was far exceeding its boundaries, extending deep into the 
sidebar. I added "overflow:auto" to my content div to contain the Like button.

Oh, I see now... (well not really, I block everything Facebook in my /etc/hosts file 
...). That FB button is in a  that specifies a width of 450px and 
covers the side bar (can't click through) - it never aligned with you images on my 
side anyway (minimum font-size in my browsers). No idea if you can change the width 
of that iframe or if is script generated.

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Re: [css-d] Dead zone beneath linked images

2011-04-20 Thread RePost

And the verdict is:

Not a div of devil-spawned images, but the Facebook Like Button From 
Hell. Firebug showed me code for the Like button was far exceeding its 
boundaries, extending deep into the sidebar. I added "overflow:auto" to 
my content div to contain the Like button.


Thanks for the assistance!


On 4/21/11 12:56 AM, RePost wrote:
Tried both Claude and Chetan's suggestions with no effect. There's 
something about those devil-spawned images that causes a dead zone 
beneath them.


I've moved them now above an identical div with identically placed 
images. They're still causing a dead zone into the top of the lower 
div. The lower div, meanwhile, creates no such effect.


I just don't get it.

http://bit.ly/eYGXbo


On 4/20/11 11:52 PM, Claude Needham wrote:

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:00 PM, RePost  wrote:
I have two floated, linked images in the sidebar, loaded in a div 
with the
class "execphpwidget." (See the two tan images, labeled "About" and 
"Meet"

in  sidebar at right, directly above the tabbed menu).

There's a dead zone beneath the images. I can add space above or 
below the
images in question, and no dead zone. Set a height for the div or 
clear the

div, and I still have a dead zone. (Try to select Tweets or Tags in the
tabbed menu below and you'll see).

I found the "dead zone" in firefox 4.0
My first guess to fix the issue you are seeing is to try Chetan's
suggestion of using overflow: hidden.

If this fails to fix the problem I would poke it with a stick. In this
case replace the  with a div that has zero margin
but a height of 1.45em.

There is something about that hr that makes me wonder if it might not
be causing some problems.

Regards,
Claude Needham
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Re: [css-d] Dead zone beneath linked images

2011-04-20 Thread RePost
Tried both Claude and Chetan's suggestions with no effect. There's 
something about those devil-spawned images that causes a dead zone 
beneath them.


I've moved them now above an identical div with identically placed 
images. They're still causing a dead zone into the top of the lower div. 
The lower div, meanwhile, creates no such effect.


I just don't get it.

http://bit.ly/eYGXbo


On 4/20/11 11:52 PM, Claude Needham wrote:

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:00 PM, RePost  wrote:

I have two floated, linked images in the sidebar, loaded in a div with the
class "execphpwidget." (See the two tan images, labeled "About" and "Meet"
in  sidebar at right, directly above the tabbed menu).

There's a dead zone beneath the images. I can add space above or below the
images in question, and no dead zone. Set a height for the div or clear the
div, and I still have a dead zone. (Try to select Tweets or Tags in the
tabbed menu below and you'll see).

I found the "dead zone" in firefox 4.0
My first guess to fix the issue you are seeing is to try Chetan's
suggestion of using overflow: hidden.

If this fails to fix the problem I would poke it with a stick. In this
case replace the  with a div that has zero margin
but a height of 1.45em.

There is something about that hr that makes me wonder if it might not
be causing some problems.

Regards,
Claude Needham
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[css-d] Dead zone beneath linked images

2011-04-20 Thread RePost
I have two floated, linked images in the sidebar, loaded in a div with 
the class "execphpwidget." (See the two tan images, labeled "About" and 
"Meet" in  sidebar at right, directly above the tabbed menu).


There's a dead zone beneath the images. I can add space above or below 
the images in question, and no dead zone. Set a height for the div or 
clear the div, and I still have a dead zone. (Try to select Tweets or 
Tags in the tabbed menu below and you'll see).


As always, I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks.

http://bit.ly/eYGXbo
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Re: [css-d] Stacking divs

2011-04-14 Thread RePost

Updating the thread:

I abandoned the "stacking divs" effort in favor of absolute/relative 
positioning. Worked best for what I needed. Thanks for the responses here.



On 4/10/11 8:39 AM, Chetan Crasta wrote:

Try

#header_topmenu class { position:relative; z-index: 100; }

Regards,
Chetan Crasta

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:52 AM, RePost  wrote:

I'm attempting to stack two divs in a wrapper at the right side of my
header.

There's another div to the left, and the header is wrapped in a container
div.

My problem is, I can't get the stacked divs to behave. The content doesn't
stay in them and they don't conform to a height setting.

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks!

http://bit.ly/hLlMwb
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[css-d] Fwd: Re: Padded image picks up a:hover background color

2011-04-14 Thread RePost

Another personal response intended for the list. Forwarding.


 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [css-d] Padded image picks up a:hover background color
Date:   Sat, 09 Apr 2011 08:38:12 -0500
From:   RePost 
To: "G.Sørtun" 



Thanks, Georg!

I finally had to go with this:

#socialbar a {
background: transparent!important;
}

#socialbar img {
margin: 10px 0 0 30px;
}

Otherwise, images insisted on bunching up.



On 4/9/11 2:27 AM, "G.Sørtun" wrote:

 On 09.04.2011 06:51, RePost wrote:


 I thought I could override the default a:hover background color, but
 it's not happening. Test site is here: http://bit.ly/hLlMwb


 The simple solution...

 #socialbar a {background: transparent!important;}

 ..but while you're at it you may as well put the margin on the link
 instead of on the image...

 #socialbar a {background: transparent!important; float: left; margin:
 10px 0 0 30px;}
 #socialbar a img {margin: 0;}

 ..thus limit the :hover area to the image itself.

 regards

 Georg



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[css-d] Fwd: Re: List items displaying inline; refusing to behave

2011-04-14 Thread RePost
Accidentally responded personally to Philippe instead of the list. 
Forwarding here.



 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [css-d] List items displaying inline; refusing to behave
Date:   Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:39:55 -0500
From:   RePost 
To: Philippe Wittenbergh 



Philippe:

Thank you!



On 4/11/11 8:11 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:

 On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:03 AM, RePost wrote:


 My sidebar includes a tabbed menu. First tab is Popular Posts. You'll see the 
list items appear to be running together in an inline fashion.

 I'm throwing "display:block" everywhere, but I can't get the list to behave.

 I would appreciate any suggestions!

 http://bit.ly/eYGXbo

 well, they are not 'inline' but floated left.

 this in your layout.css causes this:
 .usual li {
float:left;
list-style:none outside none;
 }

 you could add to
 #tabs1 li {
display:block;
 float: none /*<-- add his */
 }

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[css-d] List items displaying inline; refusing to behave

2011-04-11 Thread RePost

Here we go again.

My sidebar includes a tabbed menu. First tab is Popular Posts. You'll 
see the list items appear to be running together in an inline fashion.


I'm throwing "display:block" everywhere, but I can't get the list to behave.

I would appreciate any suggestions!

http://bit.ly/eYGXbo
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[css-d] Stacking divs

2011-04-09 Thread RePost
I'm attempting to stack two divs in a wrapper at the right side of my 
header.


There's another div to the left, and the header is wrapped in a 
container div.


My problem is, I can't get the stacked divs to behave. The content 
doesn't stay in them and they don't conform to a height setting.


I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks!

http://bit.ly/hLlMwb
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[css-d] Padded image picks up a:hover background color

2011-04-08 Thread RePost
No matter what I try, I'm unable to get rid of the background color on 
hover from a linked image. See the blue Twitter image in the social bar 
at right in the sidebar. Whether I space the social images with padding 
or margin, the background color is still filling in the background.


I thought I could override the default a:hover background color, but 
it's not happening. Test site is here: http://bit.ly/hLlMwb


I'd appreciate any suggestions!

Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] Tabbed Nav Issues

2009-02-17 Thread RePost
Felix Miata wrote:
> To amplify David's original implication and subsequent response, use of px
> for sizing text is an affirmative design choice that whatever text sizes are
> acceptable to or preferred by the design's visitors are utterly irrelevant.
> Whatever size in px seems most appropriate to you in your own environment
> bears little useful relationship what may be appropriate in the environments
> of the visitors.
>
> A corollary is px for setting line height.
> http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/line-height-inherit.html demonstrates how it can be
> a problem.
>   
Felix, I don't quite get this "Use only  for line-height" 
business proposed at the link you provided.

If your "number" is neither percentage nor em nor pixel, what does it 
represent?
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Re: [css-d] Wrapper div will not center in IE

2008-11-25 Thread RePost
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
> RePost wrote:
>   
>> Only in IE, my maincontainer (wrapper) div appears to be shifting and
>>  ignoring the tried-and-true "margin: 0 auto;" style.
>> 
> IE/win - all versions from IE6 up - will revert to quirks mode when
> there's an HTML comment above the doctype declaration. When in that mode
> IE ignore margin-auto centering and all CSS that's unsupported by
> versions higher than IE5.5.
>
> Get rid of that comment.
>   
Georg, that was way too easy for you.

This comes about due to my misunderstanding of the WordPress template 
system. An index page pulls together several other templates, and I'd 
placed the comment in the index page, above the include  for the header 
template.

But enough about that.

Thanks for your help!

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[css-d] Wrapper div will not center in IE

2008-11-24 Thread RePost
Only in IE, my maincontainer (wrapper) div appears to be shifting and 
ignoring the tried-and-true "margin: 0 auto;" style.

The only clue I can offer is that I don't have this problem with my blog 
in its current format. Although the styles haven't changed appreciably, 
the problem only occurs in my WordPress test blog.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.


Test site:
http://dwarfurl.com/9a685

Style sheet:
http://dwarfurl.com/37a99

Here's some of the relevant style:

body {
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif;
font-size:62.5%;
min-width:926px; /* Prevent background from shifting */
background-color:#CCD2F1; /* matches edge color of background image */
background-image:url(../../../images/bodywrapper-gray-shift.gif);
background-position:center;
background-repeat:repeat-y;
}

#maincontainer{
width: 926px; /*Width of main container*/
margin: 0 auto; /*Center container on page*/
background-image:url(../../../images/wrapper-gray.gif); /*Fixes 
background on page resize*/
background-position:center;
background-repeat:repeat-y;
}

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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-26 Thread RePost
David Hucklesby wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:30:59 -0500, RePost wrote:
>   
>> David Hucklesby wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes. You can pre-load background images by including them in the
>>> markup at the top of the page BODY. Apply a width=1, height=0 so
>>> they don't take up space, and enclose them in a DIV that's positioned 
>>> "off-left"
>>> using your favorite method for doing it.
>>>   
You know what? The simplest solution was to edit 1px of gray into the 
left edge of the white section (the part that frames my blog's content 
column) of my body background image.

The image still shifts, naturally (Thanks, Firefox 3.01!), but the extra 
px of gray on the inside left border isn't noticeable.

I appreciate the assistance provided by all in this forum.
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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-25 Thread RePost
David Hucklesby wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:30:57 -0500, RePost wrote:
>   
>> 1. Is there any way I can get the outer wrapper background to load before 
>> the content?
>> The background image in the outer wrapper does not multiply vertically 
>> (repeat-y) until
>> all the content has loaded. This happens in Firefox and not IE.
>>
>> 
>
> Yes. You can pre-load background images by including them in the
> markup at the top of the page BODY. Apply a width=1, height=0 so
> they don't take up space, and enclose them in a DIV that's positioned
> "off-left" using your favorite method for doing it.
>
> Because in-line images generally load before those declared in CSS,
> this method is pretty effective cross-browser. Just be sure to give
> them a dimension so they are in fact downloaded. I find that the
> 1-pixel width I used above works pretty well. (Hat-tip to Thierry
> for this, from his "TIP" image placement.[1])
>
> [1] <http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip_5.asp>
>
>   
I have to admit defeat here, David, as this routine appears to be way 
over my head.

I have a 20x2000px background image that I want to repeat horizontally. 
I'm really not getting how the TIP method will work with this.

Also, what do you mean by "off-left"? Float:left?

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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-23 Thread RePost
Correction:

That would be multiply horizontally, not vertically.

> 1. Is there any way I can get the outer wrapper background to load 
> before the content? The background image in the outer wrapper does not 
> multiply vertically (repeat-y) until all the content has loaded. This 
> happens in Firefox and not IE.
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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-23 Thread RePost
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
> You missed a part of my original answer, I guess…
> set the width of the outer wrapper to something that fit your image,  
> and set the margins to '0 auto'.
>
> I suggested
> div {
>   width 980px /* eyeballing, the width of your image -- adjust to taste
> but keep it an even number */
>   margin: 0 auto;
>   background: url(path/to/image.png) 50% 50% repeat-y;
> }
>
> The 980px width is what is needed to show those 'drop-shadow' things.
>
> Philippe

Now I get it! I misunderstood the 980px number as an attempt to estimate 
the width of my maincontainer (which is 926px; don't ask me why).

OK, a couple of issues now:

1. Is there any way I can get the outer wrapper background to load 
before the content? The background image in the outer wrapper does not 
multiply vertically (repeat-y) until all the content has loaded. This 
happens in Firefox and not IE.

2. In IE, the layout now pokes through the footer div. I recall 
encountering this problem at some point in the design process but don't 
remember how I solved it at the time.

Thanks.

Test page with outerwrap div: http://tinyurl.com/5nfdg2

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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-23 Thread RePost
Christopher wrote:
> That link don't work, I wanted to check it out.
>   

The link should be working, Christopher. Please try it once again.
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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-23 Thread RePost
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2008, at 2:25 AM, RePost wrote:
>
>   
>> David Hucklesby wrote:
>> 
>>> I think Philippe is suggesting yet another DIV. Although it sounds
>>> like a case of "divitis," I often find a need to add an extra 100%
>>> wide DIV around the entire content for IE7's sake. When IE7 is
>>> "zoomed" the background-image on BODY does not resize. Putting
>>> the background-image on this extra DIV takes care of that bug, too.
>>>   

I missed a key part of David's recommendation -- setting 100 percent 
width for the background image in the wrapper div.

Disappointingly, though, the background image still shifts when used in 
the wrapper div, just as it shifts when used in the body. Any idea why 
this might occur?

Here's a test page with the outerwrap div, if anyone's interested:
http://tinyurl.com/5nfdg2

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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-23 Thread RePost
David Hucklesby wrote:
> I think Philippe is suggesting yet another DIV. Although it sounds
> like a case of "divitis," I often find a need to add an extra 100%
> wide DIV around the entire content for IE7's sake. When IE7 is
> "zoomed" the background-image on BODY does not resize. Putting
> the background-image on this extra DIV takes care of that bug, too.
>   
I'm not sure I follow, David.

My maincontainer div already wraps around everything. That div has its 
own background image, which repeats the inner portion of my body 
background image.

When I did apply my body background image to the maincontainer div, the 
browser displayed only the part that would normally appear inside the 
layout, and not the border portion.

As the body tag exists before any html in the document, I don't see how 
div formatting would affect anything in relation to the body.

What I'm trying to say is, if I want my background image to display its 
borders beyond the layout, don't I have to apply it to the body instead 
of a div?

Site: http://tinyurl.com/5au66p
Style sheet: http://tinyurl.com/6xwzbf
Body bg image: http://tinyurl.com/56fcnl
Bg image for maincontainer div: http://tinyurl.com/5qwpvj



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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-23 Thread RePost
> Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>>
>> A quick fix that works with some test pages here:
>> wrap all of your contents in a  and attach the background-image 
>> to that div.  

The problem with that is, I designed the body background image to 
display the shadow border that extends to the right and left sides of my 
layout. I can solve the shifting problem by removing the body bg image 
-- but then, no more nice border.

In fact, I do have a background image attached to my maincontainer div. 
That div (which has not shifted), repeats the inner portion of my body 
background image. I found that this prevents an alignment problem with 
the body background image that occurred when a visitor would resize the 
page.
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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-22 Thread RePost
> Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>>
>> A quick fix that works with some test pages here:
>> wrap all of your contents in a  and attach the background-image 
>> to that div.  
The problem with that is, I designed the body background image to 
display the shadow border that extends to the right and left sides of my 
layout. I can solve the shifting problem by removing the body bg image 
-- but then, no more nice border.

In fact, I do have a background image attached to my maincontainer div. 
That div (which has not shifted), repeats the inner portion of my body 
background image. I found that this prevents an alignment problem with 
the body background image that occurred when a visitor would resize the 
page.

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Re: [css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-22 Thread RePost
Thanks so much, Philippe.

The follow-up, naturally, is, anybody got a hack or workaround?


Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
> Known Bug.
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446284
>
> (it is actually a very old isue that has become more visible due to a  
> checkin between Fx3.0 and Fx 3.01. In some circumstances it is also  
> visible in WebKit)
>   

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[css-d] Body background image shifting in Firefox 3.01

2008-07-22 Thread RePost
I've noticed that my body background image is shifting about 1px to the 
left in Firefox 3.01 only, causing some white space to show on the left 
border.

Has anyone else experienced a similar problem? This did not occur in 
previous versions of FF, or in any other browser.

Site: http://tinyurl.com/5au66p
Style sheet: http://tinyurl.com/6xwzbf
Body bg image: http://tinyurl.com/56fcnl

Relevant portion of CSS:

body {
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif;
font-size:62.5%;
min-width:926px; /* Prevent background from shifting */
background-color:#CCD2F1; /* matches edge color of background image */
background-image:url(../images/bodywrapper-gray.gif);
background-position:center;
background-repeat:repeat-y;
}

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